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Mk7 Golf gets OSRAM Dynamic Mirror Indicators (+ MORE!)
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In this unsponsored video I make my Mk7.5 (Mk7 facelift in other markets) Golf GTI TCR look even better by swapping out the cheap looking matt black mirror casing for a carbon set. While I am at it I also swap out the normal mirror indicators for a dynamic set from OSRAM.
These indicators may appear to be a gimmick but they are proven to be more easily noticed by other motorists hence contribute to road safety. VW would fit them as standard but they would cost more and to comply with the prevailing road safety regulations, they do not need to so don't.
I show you how do this work yourself on your own car in great detail.
You can buy the OSRAM DMIs from here (other suppliers are probably available):
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7:38 to prevent the lip breaking and to make it easier to fit the replacements , there are 2 further torx screws on the lower face (behind where the mirror glass would be fitted) that loosen the lower half of the mirror casing. Makes fitting just that wee bit easier
Yess. And that way you don’t break anything
My dynamic indicators were £18. They work perfectly and are very bright. I was staggered when you said yours were £180 !! Mine look identical to yours.
Are they approved for use in the EU?
I don't think that's all that likely considering how much manufacturing there is in China. The big issue is the test and certification process, without that I'm afraid any lighting product is not legal for use in the EU.
I shelled out $1100 for the Osram headlights because they are amazing and nothing comes close BUT $250 for mirror indicators is a bit much, so I went with a $20 from China. We'll see if it lasts a few years.
I also found myself replacing the indicator after an argument with a garage door frame. Unfortunately the lower piece that the indicator screws into has been damaged. Although I can get a cheap part I've got no idea how to fit it. As mentioned this is the lower section where the puddle light fits in to (Golf 7)
They look just like they were WRAPPED if the were Carbon Fibre surely the weave should show up on the inside of the mirror casing
I could not get my T10 in that tiny spot. Some screws are easily accessible mine is like yours and my bit was too large. I also thought my screw was too long however I am going to try again. Ty for this sir.
Got it. Needle nose and some light force.
I like Osram, the LEDriving SL retrofit bulbs are excellent. You’d have to be nuts to pay so much for a set of these though, you could buy 5-6 sets of Chinese dynamic indicators from the usual online sellers for the same price, fit and finish. And, as much as I like a quality product from an established brand, the Chinese set I currently have fitted work perfectly and in this case it’s hard for Osram to justify their pricing *for a pair of indicators* - £150+ vs £30.
I have the Chinese on my TCR there are great.
For me it's a case of do it the proper way or not at all. By proper I mean a product that's guaranteed for use in the EU with all the correct paperwork. Automotive lighting is highly regulated and the certification process is bound to be expensive but without it could your insurer reject a claim? Not really worth the risk for me anyway. Likewise with warranty, my cars got nearly 2 years left so I wouldn't want to jeopardise that. Plus I wouldn't want to have do the job more than once. Not sure the mirror clips are happy going on and off a number of times and if you need to replace the mirror caps because without good clips they are useless the Chinese ones won't seem cheap any longer. You pays your money and takes your choice but I couldn't make a video endorsing the installation of items that are not approved for use in Europe.
@@volkswizard I largely agree with the sentiment and I’ll buy genuine VW parts in preference to cheap (and demonstrably inferior) alternatives, but I don’t see an issue with what is essentially a cosmetic component that is physically and functionally identical in a non-critical application - and given mine are e-marked the only factor left to consider is price. If buying expensive cosmetic parts gives people the warm fuzzies then good for them, but “doing a proper job” doesn’t necessarily mean buying a premium item where a cheaper - and to all intents identical - alternative would offer the same utility with no detriment to performance, durability or safety.
Do the puddle lights still work at night? I bought ebay ones and puddle lights don’t work at night
Pro-tip. You can magnetize your torx wrench to keep the screws from falling. I worked on helicopters for a few years and did this to all my tools. Lots of books and crannies where screws can fall into.
Thanks Kim!
I was going to say the same but can't take someone else's glory. Just keep the magnet on the metal screw/bolt removal tool and the screw/bolt should stay attached. Helps on re-assembly as well.
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The indicators are a desirable mod but I find it hard to justify the cost of something I don't really get to enjoy. I'd love to see a report that tested if dynamic indicators offer any visibility benefits.
I think the safety thing is a fact, look at the footage of the originals and the DMIs? The originals are so dull it's unbelievable. Also when you unlock you can see them work with the rears (on 7.5) so that's cool
You can get them much cheaper on Ali Express and they look exactly the same as the Osram ones.
@@DAZZER435 I don’t think cost is his main concern, it’s the legality of use in EU. Yes we can all get cheaper products and I believe someone of his knowledge will know that but the thought of OEM (or better), legal and quality parts outweighs the thought of cheap materials
Thanks still weary of clicking the heated mirror glass out any tips on a household thing I can use safely
Doing mine on my golf r today cheers mate 👌👍
Ebay sweep indicators are £30, and while I've no doubt that the Osrams are better I'm not sure they can justify 6x the cost.
Are they legal for EU use though? Getting things approved costs a lot of money and I very much doubt a £30 set will have had this done whatever the seller says. Without approval you run the risk of having your insurance invalidated in the event of an accident and in some countries your car confiscated. Automotive lighting is a very heavily regulated area and not something I'd personally want to take chances with.
@@volkswizard Unlike headlights I don't think there's much regulations for indicators other than position, frequency and colour, and I don't think insurance could deny a payout unless you failed to declare the mod or they were the actual cause of an accident which is very unlikely. The Osrams do look good though and seem to sweep more smoothly than cheaper ones. I still think it's just a question of whether the extra quality is worth so much more money.
@@volkswizard Surely the front & back indicators matter the MOST
The Chinese one's the E mark so they are legal in the eu. They also work great on my TCR
Second hand car = blame the previous owner for the mod and claim to know nothing. MOT man isn't allowed to take stuff apart, and my ebay LED W5W sidelights (10 for £2 from China) have passed twice. Much brighter than glowing filaments but not antisocial like DRLs.
Nice mod, done the same to my S3. Sleeker look.
Think I'll skip this mod for something I'll never see and for fear it will end up driving me nuts trying to fit them, fair play all the same
Honestly it's not that bad but don't do anything you aren't sure about as not worth the hassle.
Just finished fitting the Osram DMI's to my TCR today. Expensive, but as you say, safety critical, so preferred to buy these plus the 5 year warranty. Easy to fit. Also replaced mirror caps with carbon fibre ones from Diversion stores. £96, but looks like good quality CB, but the return angle on one cap more than OEM, so fiddly to fit. Patience required.Thanks for the video on this. Keep up the good work.
Good video 👍🏻 any idea what the really high pitched squeel is on the majority of the video. Hurts my ears 😂
Are you using headphones? Radio mics pick up interference which is impossible for me to hear when doing the job even if I listen back to footage. I get one or 2 comments per vid so it can't be an issue for a lot of people but I still want to work it out. Problem is you switch channel on mic and a different location may have interference again. Will keep trying.
@@volkswizard Strange one then. No, I was watching on my phone so just it's external speaker(Huawei P30).
I've never noticed it on your video's before. Hope you can figure it out if it's reoccurring 👍🏻
@@volkswizard I have the same problem on my phone aswell
I did those two mods a year ago on my TCR
The dark indicators you fitted are way too expensive.
Mine were dark also but just cost €60 on eBay
Looks good 👍
Thanks Francis. As I said there are cheaper ones but I don't swap out stuff on £35k cars unless the quality is OEM or better especially as it's a safety component. 5 year warranty offers peace of mind as does definite approval for use in EU.
Thanks for the tutorial. Fitted to my car today!
You’re a brave man Andrew and good on you for not editing the tricky bits out too much. It’s better to know that it’s not straightforward as some people might have made out. It definitely looks the part and much classier than the standard, cheaper looking mirrors. Great video.
Thanks George! Mirrors have always freaked me out as levering the lense out doesn't feel right but there is no choice. The only real risk is not getting the clips lined up when refitting the mirror casings, particularly the inner clip as this will easily damage it and they are quite crucial.
I quite fancy a pair for my gti performance (indium grey) now I’ve seen yours!
Looks great! I got some Chinese versions on eBay for a reasonable price. Yours look a little cleaner where the carbon meets the plastic lip though. Mine look great though for around $80 dollars I think it was.
Did you replace the indicator lights in the headlights, too? I always find it quite odd if the side indicators swipe and the headlight ones dont, so that’s what’s holding me back to do it, too. ( btw: it’s debatable if these things are legal everywhere in Europe, sadly)
I didn't replace the headlight indicator lights - I get your point but I'm just happy the mirrors are dynamic :)
Is it just me or does your indicator flash like a green colour when you first done it after fitting,then after that it was the usual orange colour 🤷♂️
Nice! I definitely need to do this on my R now. Same black osram ones to match the gloss black mirror casings.
Thanks DM, reckon that would be a nice combo 👌
I bought a set for £50 for my seat Ibiza fr same fitment for more than half the price!
Are the approved for use in the EU and therefore legal? Car lighting is very heavily regulated and you can't just fit anything.
Looks nice, golf gti tcr looks way better than a golf r in my opinion
I replaced the caps and indicators on my Mk6 R and you made it look a lot easier than the trouble I had putting them on! Looks awesome on the TCR!
Thanks Michael. I've not done a 6 but I've lots of bad memories of much harder times doing this job on other cars!
Smoked wrap on the light strip, and carbon wrap on the wing mirror casing.
£20.
Cheers for the video.
I’ll be looking to fit the dynamic indicators to my TCR after watching this video. Great video!
Best of luck stevesje71, just make sure whichever you go for they are approved for use in Europe.
@@volkswizard I’ll be going for the OSRAM manufacture, as I’ve had several products from this company before. All OE quality. I see some comments on here with people saying buy the eBay £30 ones, these are very poor quality with less LEDs so the indication isn’t as smooth and it just looks retro fitted and not OE from the factory. .
Great job 👍
Nice mod, mirrors and indicators look really good.
Glad you like them Nick, thanks!
Great video. Really tempted to fit Mk7.5 rear light and these side indicators to my tornado red CSS but feel it may spoil the originality. Your TCR looks just fantastic. Fancy doing a big brake upgrade? Would love to see a video using Audi OEM parts.
Thanks OC! I wouldn't mess with your CSS too much, the mirror indicators are OK but the rear lights would look wrong even when they aren't operating. I did think about brake upgrade but having driven the car on track and not wrecked the brakes I think they are pretty good as they are and a lot cheaper to replace than Audi RS ones.
@@volkswizard really appreciate you getting back to me. If you want to see what detailing I have done to my car log onto detailing world and my car is under projects. St33ly is my user name. I’ll delete this one you reply back. Only if it is of interest to you. Cheers
The nice thing about the OSRAM ones is that OSRAM makes the OEM lights for VW so the "sweep" of the mirror turn signals exactly matches the timing of the rear and front (if equipped) dynamic turn signals.
Also, a tip: if you touch the magnet to the shaft of the torx driver, it will magnetize it so the screw will stick to it.
Hello, another great video. It’s good to show peeps that anyone can tackle this kinda upgrade or if they had to change the repeater lens like I had to on my TTS. 😎👌🏻 oh get some plastic trim lever tools. Cheap and way better than a wedge.lol. 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻
I’ve got carbonfiber sheets
It’s not easy to work with .
But would be worth trying to cover round
a small part like a mirror..
Making a mold is very hard don’t bother trying
@volkswizard Any idea if the MK8 uses the same mirrors/signals? Would love to get the OSRAM indicators for the MK8 Golf R.
Looks good 👍🏻 I’d imagine I’d break it and do a lot of swearing
Aliexpress 20€ with E8 approval
On the warranty comment - New Volkswagen’s in Australia have a 5 year warranty.
I bet that's in response to Far Eastern competition
I bet that's in response to Far Eastern competition
I really liked the video, thank you Andrew. You put the black (gangsta) on your TCR. Did you put the white dynamic Osrams on the Golf R? Be interesting to see them working side by side if you ever get a chance. All the best.
Hi Andrew, I didn't fit the white ones (well actually I fitted a white one in error to my car while filmingh and I am sure the footage of me realising that is not fit for public consumption). If I do fit them the white ones I'll post on instagram so keep a look out. Thanks, Andrew
@@volkswizard Thank you & all the best.
Looks fantastic, so much so in fact, I ordered all the bits after watching the video! I've always thought the carbon fibre mirror caps look good, so makes total sense to fit dynamic indicators at the same time. Great vid once again
Thanks Alex! Did you find some mirror caps easily enough?
@@volkswizard managed to source some on eBay from a highly rated company who use OEM VW mirror caps then overlay them with carbon fibre. Great feedback and reviews so thought I'd go with those
Are they worth it ?
They are nice addition to the tcr
Thanks Daniel!
For 30€ I have Dynamic mirrors for my focus 3 😆
Very smart
Thanks Simon!
Does this work on a normal mk 7.5 golf?
Sure does!
Got ripped off for the price of them blinkers
Added those to my Golf R, later swapped them to the wife’s Golf SE - such a nice little upgrade.
Dynamic indicators.....as you are sat behind the steering wheel, you cannot see them. And surely you are of an age where you don't care what others think??
They have proven gains in visibility over the OEM ones and therefore safety. I'm at an age where that does matters. I'm sure VW would fit them if they didn't cost more and legislation doesn't make them a requirement. Look how dull the OEM flash is in the intro piece.
@@volkswizard I find some are so small esp with DRLs at the front, that they are really hard to see dynamic or otherwise.
I love the indicator 🥰 I wonder if you can get them for my yeti ?
I looked Peter and sadly doesn't look like it. Do they maybe use mirrors off another Skoda or maybe the indicator bits such as Octavia?
@@volkswizard thank for looking ,the mirrors look very similar to the golf ! I seem to have a problem with a glow plug on number 4 cylinder ? Is it best to change 1 or all four in your experience !
Peter
@@peterurquhart7191 change the faulty one
Pity a cant put a video on, ive just installed the osram led on my mk7 gtd 😀 👍got em off amazon £144 black friday deal well happy 😊
I’ll buy the old caps off you if you’re selling them😈👍🏼
Afraid not Rob, not yet anyway. I like do to do mods but keep the old bits. It's annoying when people sell you a modded car but have flogged off or binned all the old bits!
Ah well worth a try.. beautiful car by the way I always wanted that color but had to settle for a Oryx White Mother-of-Pearl
Do they have the indicators for the Arteon?
They do 👍
@@volkswizard Do you know where I can buy it? I didn't see it on the website in the Description
Done this to mine and I feel it’s a good improvement
They look good Andrew, I must admit they look like they wont fit, just be brave and they will snap on, and like yours look really nice
Thanks Alistair! Do they look familiar?
@@volkswizard :-)
Well done - looks so good with the new mirror covers and makes TCR look that little bit more Hugo Boss :)
Thanks Malcolm! The effect of those covers is remarkable. Might wash car now, 3 wash since June!
Easy to steal, that's the trouble.
its all crap nothing wrong with the cheaper wonz for 29 quid its all about profit
What wheels do you run Sir?
OZ Omnias 8x18 in matte black with 235 40 18 Goodyear F1. All you need is an 8" wheel but VW find it hard to sell that as an option so sell you 19s and a rough ride to get an 8" wheel. Also they are around £200 per wheel so cheap to replace, unlike Pretorias which are around £1000 and prone to buckling.
@@volkswizard exactly what my opinion is!!! thanks a lot for the extensive answer, my search has been ended here for alloy candidates :)
I forgot to say a very nice modification for anyone that hasn’t done them yet.
Have you any more tasteful mods for the TCR coming in the future 👍
Good question. Stainless steel replacement for the plastic dead pedal which we get on RHD cars. Maybe wheels & exhaust next year. Also want to deal with the understeer on track with more camber up front. In the longer term I'd like a Racing Line intake. Looks wise it's pretty much perfect now. 👍
Was looking around for the plastic pedal replacement but did not find any on line I was sure would fit.
I’ll wait and see what you find 👍😁
Great mod, I would prefer to go Osram too for the OEM quality and legality
Thanks, glad you appreciate that as a lot of people don't
Would have liked to see a 60 minute special on these showing both sides with the clear and dark options.
The average view time of a video is 5 mins so even 15 mins is largely not watched.
Andrew is gangster, I knew it.
Looks good. I bet the air was blue trying to clip on the outer case! 🤪
Yes it was! The trick is to line up inner edge and push mirror out then forwards. If you don't do this the inner clip won't align and will deform when pushed forwards.
Picking up my Golf R Estate on Thursday. This could be my first modification.
Nice Mike, enjoy!
Thanks for this video it's great, just purchased some off Amazon for £144 👌🏼
Great video. Looks like an easy mod to put on my list. 👍🏻
Thanks Andy, small but rewarding
I absolutely love golfs cant wait for my next one
Lovely Jubbly.
Good job 👍
Thank you Michael! Cheers!
Sweepy
They are Ja son!
The mirror design is bad, especially when it folds up it make the car look horriable,the bmw mirrors when they fold up it looks nice.