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- Опубликовано: 3 июл 2024
- Asmongold Clips / Asmongold Reacts To: Final Fantasy 14 new expansion Dawntrail received mixed reviews on Steam with players mainly criticizing the sluggishness of the story
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The problem was the story in the general, not the character only.
Also gameplay. Why,just God WHY did they continue to double down on casualizing classes after shadowbringers?
The story is so fucking bad. I had to start skipping some cutescenes to just stay sane.
@@aldetauri7831 skipping life to enjoy the life
@@ChimpanzeeUltraim not even kidding when I tell you all you have to do is read the first few pieces of dialog to know what is going to happen. They repeat the point over and over.
No it's not, the problem was the pacing in the start and some narrative structure, like wuk lamat beign the protagonist almost every time that she appears, besides that, dialogues, new characters and the expansion of the lore was really good
Other country's VAs: Professional head shot and appearance.
American VA: Selfie on the front lawn in a hoodie.
Why would he bother making it professional? Any ctiticism of anything he does is just transphobia
@@DittaDemon tbh his voice acting is shit and thats not transphobia or any bs u call it
The problem is the writing and pacing are terrible compared to previous expansions. It's basically this: receive quest from Wuk Lamat, dialogue dump, go do quest, return to Wuk Lamat, another dialogue dump, do next quest, return to Wuk Lamat, dialogue dump...it's absolute misery. I realize Natsuko Ishikawa has stepped into a director role instead of writing but they desperately need her to write the next expansion because clearly she's the only talented writer working at Square Enix currently.
The writting and the pacing is not bad, you would know this having you play, itstead your troll copy pasting what others say
@@fredy2041 Realize that you are in the minority of people who think it's good lol
@@fredy2041just admit you have bad taste. No one is agreeing with your bad takes, no matter how many comments you beg and plead in.
@@fredy2041 Stop defending bad writing. Stormblood and ARR in terms of writing and VA were bad....we're getting a repeat when these lessons should have been learned 8 years ago.
@@fredy2041 I made it to about level 97/98 and just stopped caring. Ive never skipped MSQ cutscenes at any point until now. I was genuinely having to force myself through this expansion and i started it off really excited for it. If the games post patches are just as bad i just can't see myself enjoying this game anymore if the story and world falls apart due to horrible writing and character assassinations.
The problem is that the first half of the story quest is basically the ARR Titan build up quests but waaaAAAaay longer.
No it isn't. It is a journey to learn of the myriad of cultures that live on Tural. Add to that that it is Wuk Lamat's journey for growing up. From becoming the self-conscious, childish idiot to actually becoming a good leader.
I get how people may be upset how we aren't the main character anymore. But they need to realize that this rite of succession isn't a threat to us. Wuk Lamat could have literally used us as a attack dog to immediately win any competition. But it was HER job to overcome it.
@@imaran1303It is ARR and Stormblood, but better. It is a story about growing up and filling a big shoe for Wuk Lamat. To us, its a vacation.
I go into the expansion with that mindset, and it is pretty great.
@@MenrvaS Exactly.
@@imaran1303 And the the ARR Titan build up quests were you going to earn the trust of the scattered remaining member of the company of heroes and earn their trust to understand the sacrifice required in culling the unending primal threat for ephemeral peace.
The point is, in a game that is basically a visual novel going from point A to B and talking to npc's, doing these quests are tedious and not fun and the trope of overcoming evil using the power of friendship in a plot is just poor unengaging plot-writing. To make the visual novel aspect work the plot has to be good to mask the fact that the gameplay is just talking to npcs and fetching crap. All other expansions have done a good jobs of this, Dawntrail fails miserably at this until you get to X'ak Tural/Catboy Texas.
@@wessel4111 You realize that this 'Power of friendship' thing has been a thing since Heavensward right? Heck! The reason we won against Meteion is because of the power of friendship when our friends pray for our success and our safe return. It has been a part of FF14 forever, and you complaining about it NOW of all times sounds disingenous.
FF14 was never really about fighting mobs in our MSQ outside of dungeons and trials and solo instances. And we are the person who traveled to the edge of the universe and beat the manifestation of depression in the universe... it would have felt more jarring if they had us go beat up boars to collect 5 boar asses, us sitting back and babysitting a noob who was still growing to be a good leader was the best way they could have done it.
he can't play FFXIV next week because he's gonna finish Cyberpunk 2077 next week! /copium
at least he finished Monster hunter, well, the story anyway.
TBH CP77 is like million times better than FFXIV.
That’s the same day that he plays Genshin
@@Navhkrin the games are very different genres, they can't really be compared tbh
@@Navhkrin pfffft
I watch these videos for the editors. They do not disappoint
I read these comments for your comments. They do not disappoint.
Only his streams dissapoint:
*watches 20 min vid* says very agreeable things & ends reaction with a segue onto another video only for him to endlessly watch videos and not play games. (And if he does - he constantly complains and quits playing - only to go back & react instead)
I don't think the problem is with Ishikawa being absent for DT's story writing. It's just that, after finishing the Zodiark/Hydaelyn arc in such a spectacular fashion, there was an organic need for the stakes to be smaller this time, otherwise constantly battling a universe-scale threat would get stale, and we'd get another WoW situation, with retcons upon retcons to keep the next threat greater than the previous one, but nobody really gives a damn anymore because nothing is believable. Even a writer of Ishikawa's skill couldn't salvage that situation.
exactly!
people upset by the fact that the game was exactly this failed to understand that this was the point from the start
and tbh, it annoys me that this failure is doing so much damage to the game
no it went woke woth gulool jaja wuk jamat something being the villain and some ff9 copycat garnet being like im the final.boss and becomes some mechon
Finally a sane take.
People don't like DTs MSQ because it's boring. Small stakes is not an excuse for hours and hours of talking to wuk lamat, generic fetch quests, talk to 3 NPCs for information. It's like beast tribe quality of writing for an entire msq.
It sucks too because it seems like of newer or maybe younger gamers just don’t give a damn about story anymore either. Which explains why so much gets retconned and it’s only us older gamers who grew up with some of these games are annoyed with it haha.
I played through the entirety of dawntrail, watched every cutscene. Honestly, I think people are overfixating on Wuk Lamat and completely overlooking the real biggest flaw in that story: Bakool Ja Ja. Motherf*cker almost ended civilization by releasing an apocalypse-level kaiju, and everyone's fine with that because he has a tragic backstory to excuse his behavior.
There was a point were they're talking about the Mamook issue and you ask Wuk Lamat if Bakool Ja Ja's backstory excuses what he did and she said no, but after that there didn't seem to be any real consequences for him(as of entering the level 96 storyline). "Team Rocket" antics are one thing, releasing a being that has attacks that do massive destruction and endure for decades is another. Even if no one died, the potential was there.
Then again, what would the consequence be? He's not showing his faces because he's tearing himself up inside. Gaius led armies to rain death and destruction in conquest although he was sort of killed and came back to fight against the Ascians. Emet Selch assisted in the destruction of worlds, tried to show us that it was a good thing and we killed him because he was going to see it through. Zenos treated death and killing as a game and we killed him because he was going to continue that path. Meteion's sisters wouldn't listen to her and were singing destruction to the universe and we killed them.
So maybe with Bakool Ja Ja's mental state, the traditional noble sacrifice? Maybe for the giants? Maybe something post-game will pop up since you haven't seen any repercussions for him and I'm only halfway through.
@@TheCuriousPuppyi think they lead him to noble sacrifice. But he became so chilling and cool dude, it will be sad :c
skip the story and you dont have to worry about it being bad or mid
I think this is a recurring problem. There are several parts where issues that should have taken much more time to build up and resolve, are kind of rushed past.
I’m only halfway through, but the biggest problem is that Wuk Lamat just doesn’t grow and is forced on you. Her brother, the tech enthusiast Second promise, goes through a pretty big mental growth phase but just gets pushed aside for the obvious “I love everyone” good guy candidate immediately. She just really isn’t interesting of a character so far, especially compared to people like Emet or even Fourchenault
You can't compare her to emet selch. That's not fair at ALL, there aren't many characters in any ff media that can live up to him
Dude. Are you joking? Have you been paying attencion? She litersly expresses how weak she is at lvl 92. Your a liar.
@@bauloprete3905 But her personality does not change at all and she gets a random power boost out of nowhere...Bakool Ja Ja could block her strongest attack with ease , a few quests later she destroys him with his goons helping. It ist stupid.
@@eternalgamingforum7562she literaly does. Either you have the attencion of a child or seems you hate growth on a fenale character. Go back to collegue kid. Read a book
You can hear that it is a man trying to put on uwu voice. Pretty revolting.
Finished the game. Watched and read every single Cutscene, and dialogue including side characters. I thought the VA was fine, but the character writing and dialogue was atrocious. Wuk has zero character progression, which wouldn't be too bad if she was a good character. But she's basically Narurto "I want to be Hokage!" Tier, and she never changes. The characters that do get some development do so in the worst way possible. Their entire character will do full 180 flips on their beliefs in the space of two dialogue boxes. It gave me whiplash.
We wonder whether they hired a "Consultant" for the writing
I loved the story myself. The voice actress was good and almost all the characters are well written and the story was phenomenal.
edit: It was a solid Final Fantasy story without all Hydaelyn/Zodiark stuff. Plus no Ascians for once since they are mostly in the life stream now save for a couple. Yes there were some clique moments but what final fantasy game does not have that?
Shes Naruto without being all alone and going through tragedy after tragedy making you root for their dreams to finally come true.
I cannot wait to see the team mess up the game as badly as they did ff16. Once 14 falls square Enix rightfully collapses.
That was my experience, too. The story did get better in the last half, for me. I'd overall say it was good, but not as good as the last couple expansions.
People emphasizing what isn't important often times hurts explaining what is. They went full WoW storytelling with this expansion; your character is just there as things happen, and you're a side kick to someone you have no connection with while also not being given proper motivation as to why you're supporting them. Not only that, but the characters you do know don't act like themselves for the sake of not overshadowing the main character (again, not you). It is the Thrall situation all over again with them being over used for several areas and then coming back to take the spotlight again. Little player agency and their new writers not being true to the established characters. Back in Shadowbringers they had new characters with each zone, along with established characters you knew interacting with them equally. Then they showed up again when it made sense in the story and you were either glad to see them or get some closure.
This expansion reminded me of WoW story telling so much that I looked up the date for the pre-patch while playing it.
This is a very interesting perspective thank you
The game reached it's natural endpoint in Endwalker. They're dragging out an already finished title in order to milk the whales. That's why it's so bad. It's the same reason most comic books end up as shit after a while.
Everything stems from that.
Dollar store villains, phoned in characters, and extreme amounts of unnecessary fluff is what decreased the quality of the story by an order of magnitude. It's a significant drop in quality, that's why people are getting frustrated with it. Pointing to the characters and the English VA work of Wut Lamat is just one of many factors that lead to this, but it's also the easiest one to point out.
There's so many areas you can point to that signify weak direction, rushed development, or a lack of concern for the story they were telling. So many scenes where characters talk about how they feel instead of acting. So many scenes where the WoL is just standing near the edge of the frame watching other people do stuff. Hell, they didn't even bother providing alternate cutscene animations for Healers; if somebody is injured or dying, the WoL just stands watching while Alphinaud, Krile, and Alisaie do the generic hand-extended healer animation.
wild they didn't tell one of the villains that Garlemald is gone and everyone wants peace....
@@Chippaization Which villain are you referring to? I'm pretty sure everyone involved knew Garlemald is no longer a threatening force. Zooral Ja's claimed philosophy is to teach the populace to appreciate peace via subjecting them to warfare but that's also just a smokescreen to his own personal issues.
@@Chippaization Okay, all critism aside - one of those villians directly adresses Garlemald being destryoed due to dumb leadership, which he wasn't wrong about. One of their leaders literally thrown their whole culture and nation into civil war. Which he thinks won't be the case with him. You could say it's dumb, but not that it wasn't adressed
@@starbog1dude just said "garlemald wuz dumb lmao" and then proceeded to be a bigger tard than Varis ever was politically and militarily. Guy was EXTREMELY nearsighted in his goals. The Garleans at least had the whole ascian internal subterfuge plot mixed in with the inability to reach peace with eorzea due to wanting to get rid of all the eikons and eikon worship even if those gods were the twelve themselves.
The only problem is Zack has not resumed FF14 yet
all mmo r over rated, with exception to the very first wow. after that all the same shit
problem???
i see no problems here
He can't keep getting away with this
As a regular XIV player, I don't blame him. Dawntrail is an overextended beach episode, nothing to rush back for.
The problem wasn't Wuk Lamat herself so much as ignoring the path that was already travelled in the previous expansion. Either they cut stuff because of limited cutscene time or the writer wasn't entirely versed in Endwalker. The biggest example of this issue occurs In the later half of the game. There is a feat from the previous expansion that carries with it a great deal of emotional weight to various characters. There is a deeply touching, thought provoking moment that was never realized which should have occurred, but did not. To see potential unrealized is bittersweet at its best and vexing at its worst. The community is grappling with how to express it in these reviews. Also, I always have jp voice acting on so this is news to me.
what makes the MSQ worse is that neither the scions or WOL speak up when something is amiss since they have plenty of knowledge in dealing with things...it's like the writers don't know what they have done or achieved plus the hyper shonen "power of friendship fixes all problems" and "loves" all her people....when she never seemed to have left the city once in her life outside of meeting us during the last expansion....hell even all the new skills are lackluster as hell.
Now any criticism is going to be deflected because the VA is trans
Yet your being transphobic
Yet your being that person
@@bauloprete3905 "that person" wdym
@@bauloprete3905 What are you even saying. The guy is saying that any legit criticism is going to be thrown out because the character is trans.
@@bauloprete3905 you prove his point.
The characters va was bad but it’s not the only issue, even Jp people hated the writing
No kid. She was not bad. Stop being duscusting. Seek help
@@bauloprete3905 ??????? LOL
@@JohnHurt-ym5jqwhat a liar. You are. You dont even play ffxiv
@@bauloprete3905 Try again, in english this time.
@@bauloprete3905 Put your phone down and get some fresh air. Your comments are out of control.
Most of the complaints I hear is that the new character is insufferable for a good chunk of the MSQ.
I would say she's insufferable until the credits roll
90% of the lines are this character. You can't escape her.
I'd agree that she's just not a very interesting or compelling character but it has absolutely nothing to do with her having a trans VA for the English version, like Kern is suggesting. This is obvious for everyone with two brain cells to see by the reviews being mixed in every language.The issue is 100% the writing and the lack of quality/interesting elements.
not if you skipped the MSQ lol
They picked bad clips to showcase the VA. Any time an emotion is needed she delivers the most flat, monotone performance imaginable. That voice you heard here is the same one she uses when she's in pitched combat for her life.
Typical these anti-woke narrative. They only pick any clip that suit their agendas. So tired of these woke vs anti woke crap
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@@SWHHReice Doesn't change the fact that the dude misgendered the voice actor which offends me.
@@SWHHReice it is him, not her though
@@SWHHReice I don't care about what he identifies with, I care for reality. Reality says, it's a him.
Calling HIM a women offends me. Stop misgendering people purposely! 😌❄️
That announcement aged well. You must be a level 153738 dark knight by now Zack. Play till Shadowbringers maaaaaan
No one care about this game anymore . Its actually crazy how there is 0 hype for the expansion.
@@lolilol5346 Damn you got ratioed into the shadow realm.
@@lolilol5346dude it’s literally top 3 biggest mmos of all time and have kept that position forever now, right now it’s actually the biggest beating out Wow and runescape in player counts. This game will literally never ever fall off
@@Akantorz ...? he didn't though I don't think it matters because this comment has 214 likes and there are 8 billion people on the planet
@@Grimnoire He replied the same day to the comment and has only 6 likes, that says a LOT. I posted a comment slightly after him and almost have just as much likes.
Comments like his are just dumb anyone, so it was just poking fun at him.
The issue is not that it’s woke. The issue is that Wuk Lamat is in about 98% of MSQ and has insane amount of voiced lines compared to literally anyone else. Compounded with weak story it makes her insufferable to a lot of players. Myself included.
Sounds like your transphobe
Like someone say "If you like DT MSQ depends if you like Wuk Lamat" i mean she has more words spoken then everyone else in the Story and its not even close
It's ridiculous. If they wanted us to like Wuk Lamat then they shouldn't have squeezed her into 6.5 so they could bore us to death for the first 1/2 of the game with weak character writing. Giving her a cuter ENG voice like her JP dub would also have helped.
Honestly, Wuk feels like a 2.0(ARR) Alphinauld. Super annoying, incredibly naive, and doesn't know how to collect excellent firewood. Feels like she needs a solo adventure with Estinien.
@@lumberjackscoot8497 Have mercy on the guy. Estinien deserves better… 😂
Been replaying Baldur's Gate 3, and the writing, voice actors, and character animations make that game. It's just so good with it's story. When I go from playing BG3 to seeing that FF14 clip, it's just so bad.
Powered through endwalker in launch weekend, just got one level so far in dawntrail.
Here's the issue with this expansion's MSQ, it uses the story structure formula of XI that has you be the sidekick of whomever is the main character of the expansion, in Dawntrail that's Wuk Lamat.
So everything relies on Wuk Lamat actually being a good character and if she isn't then everything goes to shit. They had to make sure she was written and voiced competently and they completely blew it.
Unironically she's like Naruto, a shonen protagonist, which isn't everyone's cup of tea, but the larger issue is her english voice acting which is completely flat. This is the most obvious whenever she does speeches in front of a crowd.
It's a bad formula. Players have hundreds of hours invested into their characters by this point in the story and won't react well to being made second-fiddle for some Poochie in a poorly paced and directed narrative. This doesn't mean the players want a power-fantasy that worships the ground they walk on, but just to have a story that respects them and their time (in a game they pay for). Players would have been absolutely thrilled if 30% of DT was just walking around Tural on vacation doing frivolous stuff with their favorite Scions, but instead these characters are barely present in the story, so that the WoL can stand at the edge of the screen while Wuk Lamat talks.
Just call it as it is. Complete garbage. I know you guys are trying to not sound offensive, but the va is really terrible. They could have picked a random woman from the streets, and she would have done a better job, and I'm not exaggerating.
I much prefer 11s formula myself.
As someone who hasn't played FFXI or FFXIV a day in my life and only know it by researching it and listening to friends, your comment is the clearest at explaining the issue to me. It's one of those situations where we don't need to know shit to be able to read your comment and be able to tell you know what you're talking about which then makes us informed.
Just had to say that because I also try to avoid games where the game treats me like a sidekick. It's not an interesting way to make a game in most cases. I think Bioshock 1 is the only time it's been done masterfully, and a handful of other games do it without ruining the game like the Fire Emblem series. But most of the time it just serves to make you feel like the game is mechanics only and like you're pointless and wasting your time.
Anyway, great comment.
Its just a long and drawn out escort quest with a weird overconfident and WEAK character that cause 90% of the trouble in the DLC. At least Naruto is likable and isn't reliant on others while still saying he is hot shit. He is Hot shit because he can back it up.
This is only Compunded further with the ANNOYING FAKE ACCENT. AND The ANNOYING FAKE POUFTER Voice.
Whats allegedly woke/DEI casting is the fact that they hired the VA despite her not being good. The writing and localization isnt the best either but the other language VA's sound good. This one does not.
So its not because she is trans, its because she was hired because she is trans.
Okay transphobe
Its ZOOMER pandering as always
How would you even know that
They are an okay VA, not even amongst the top 10 worst VA's ff14 has, why make such a fuss about them being trans?
Explain to me how your mind works please.
If an okay VA was only hired "because they are trans", then why were the worse VA's hired who were hetero cis people?
@@justsomeguywithoutamustang6436it’s because Americans hate trans people and will find any excuse to hate on them. It’s really dumb here we are.
Y'shtola only got like 10 lines of dialogue in the whole base expansion.
This sounded fine to him????? It took me a few seconds to come to the realization that this is not some YT fan dub but (presumably) the actual ingame audio.
it is the (sadly) ingame audio for the EN...and my god it gets worse from that point on.. (spoilers) literally there is a point where her dad dies and the EN voice is just pretty much that meme audio of the black man crying after his son tells him (dad i still love you).. you know the one...
Also she uses one accent for normal speech, and another accent every time she states the name of a place... like girl, this is supposed to be where you are from....your native accent "is" the accent you should be using to properly pronounce the place name... it would be like if i were talking in a vietnamese accent to an american but made sure any time i said a city name i emphasized to say those names in an west african accent... people gonna be confused!
"Didn't earn it" VA *and* consultant unsurprisingly fumbled.
The consultant is not DEI... She's been on the team for a long time even working side by side with Koji Fox through SHB and was lead for EW. She is an inhouse localization lead literally just like Koji Fox was. She took the spot when Koji Fox went to lead the localization for FF16. I hate 3rd party consultants as much as the next person, but not all "consultants" are the same thing. Again, she's been on the CBU3 team for a long time already. You guys are reaching so hard. You guys are literally the woke equivilent of ( the other side of ) woke people. No nuance or logic in what you guys say at all. She has not shown to be a problem at all. The same issue (outside Lamat's voice) are the same for Japan version as the English version. The change in writer was the issue.
@@F34RDSoldier805 EW seem like the right term, yes
@@F34RDSoldier805 She may not be DEI, but I have had major issues with the FFXIV localization for a LONG time. The vast majority of the translations are not just incorrect, but the tone and intent of the dialogue is often drastically different from the Japanese source. I play the game with Japanese voices and English text, and I'm constantly cringing at how bad the translation is. Most characters are like different people in Japanese than they are portrayed in English. It'd be quite difficult to point to a single line of text that is not largely changed from the source.
@@F34RDSoldier805it is DEI
@@Hirome_Satou That's because they would write a completely original version for the english and Japanese language. They literally wrote them side by side. So the english version isn't a direct translate of the japanese version, but a side by side creation. Koji Fox would explain how he would sit with the lead writer and they would go off one another on how the story is written. It's why it feels more natural in english than other translations of japanese creations, where it would sound "anime" in english dub. This method would remove that. They did the same with FF16. You might take this as a bad thing if you don't like the english version, but it's not. Yoshi-P has also said that he doesn't like it when people say the dialogue of the stories sound too "anime" when in English. He wants it to sound natural in both English and Japanese. If you don't think they achieve that, idk what you want or your just being disingenuous, because they absolutely hit that. FF games made by CBU3 sound by far the most natural in english as compared to literally any other FF game ever for that reason. They put a ton of work into achieving that. I understand people are trying to find reason into convincing themselves and others that this is a bad thing, but it's not, because they aren't localization as much as they are written twice from the ground up for english and Japanese.
If you want to know more, try to find one of the Fanfest dev panels where Koji Fox talks about their writing process. They don't do the traditional "localization" methods of just translating Japanese to english. They do as I explained, which is much more thorough and done on complete collaboration with the JP writers AS they write it. This is likely why the text doesn't directly translate to JP voice audio. Because it wasn't meant to. They are two different versions of the same script created for their respective languages, and since the two languages don't translate directly to one another without sounding unnatural in one language or the other, the result is that you get a sub that isn't directly translating the JP dialogue. It is what it is. If they didn't do this, people would cry about the unnatural english dialogue like they do with anime dubs. This services the vast majority of players better by miles. The only people who will complain about this current method are super weebs that refuse to play the English version even when it's great. That simple.
There is no bigger indictment of a character than "eh he/she's ok"
A bigger indictment would be that "she's bad".
A bigger indictment would be "she's worse than Lyse."
@@DontGiveUp_Skeletonwhat a liar you are
@@godless1014ok tranphobe. Not worse by a mile, get helo
@@godless1014 Except she isn't. You guys really forgot how insuferable Lyse was as a character. Lamat is just obnoxious because of her immaturity and over enthusiasm. Same reason I hate character like Luffy. But it's insane to say she's worse than Lyse in the main SB MSQ. Not even close. You guys really like to reset your brains to make things seem worse than they are.
On average, Wuk Lamat's VA isn't terrible. The issue is, she has a full HALF of the dialogue in the story, and anyone could tell you that gives a VA plenty of opportunities to fudge a line or two, and runs the time available to fine tune direction and vocal deliveries to razor thin margins. It was a recipe for disaster, and disaster did happen a few times, which soured the whole end product.
I’m only on lv 94 story quests, and I think the voice acting is fine. The only issue I have are that we are still getting unvoiced scenes, and when her character is yelling it seems off.
I find Lamat's English speaking voice to be very good, fits her well.
I will spoil you on one thing, though: the yelling gets worse. Way. Worse. I don't understand why they got a VA that can only talk to do a role with a lot of shouting and yelling
Reminds me of that localization "experts"...
Ff14 has been going Woke for a while. You can see tons of characters with dark skin and unmatched hair as if they just got skin-painted last minute.
Well, Enwalker story got butchered and red-conned badly, which indicates wrong hands on it.
Game looks better but certain content gets worse.
@@joshanonline Give a few examples?
asmon didnt say what 21st of what year he would come back to it could be in 21years
THE PART AT THE END WAS JUST OK? I was crying yall
Tbf, when he said the 21st, he didn't say what month or year...
Love you editor for always adding context.
Bring back ishikawa. Yoshi P, so we dont end up like WoW Dragonflights Narrative.
Honestly, we just did. Dragonflights is nothing but power of unity and friendship and forgiveness to solve whatever tf is happening in the Isles. Dawntrail has the exact same concept, except its on the realms of anime.
Maybe Ishikawa doesn't want to involve anymore because she know the story is going to be DEI shit
@@user-ot3qr4pu7v Most probably.
She's a busy lady. Sadly, we can't just expect her to be chained to the FF14 writing desk forever... but it does suggest they need to overhaul how they handle their writing team.
@@arionell isnt that like literally any JRPG? xD
power of friendship and forgivness is the thing since ARR.
The end is so funny I had to watch again 😂😂😂
Some of the main issues is that this time your character is a npc (which has been a mixed reception). When you finally get to shine, Wuk Lamat takes that away from you. Wuk Lamat is very much a love or hate character. on top of that, ALOT of the voiceless cutscenes relayed important information that relates to the story. Which didn't make sense. With the biggest issue I had was the short time you had in Shalloani.
He's going to play it right after finishing cyberpunk
When people use wording such as, "It's not half-bad, it's OK", most of the time what they are doing is just trying to avoid saying that it's bad.
and honeslty i understand the copium too. I don't want my favorite game to suddenly be shit either, but gotta face reality with this one.
@@collenjets123 FFXIV playerbase is insanely high on hopium but it can't last forever.
I know this is crazy, but stories can be just ok and not bad. There isn’t just good and bad
what they are doing is using a concept known as weasel words or euphemisms to try and talk about a topic without giving their full thoughts or touching on the full real topic. Both concepts apply to what you are saying haha and I could not agree more. All the dungeons and trials were awesome the story though sucked butt.
is it just 0 and 10 in your mind? do you need help?
The story is mid, the gameplay/fights are good, how do you rate this?
the voice sounds like a customer service rep at target
I had no issue, with Wuk Lamat. My issue was the abrupt change of pace, in the opening MSQ. It felt a little "rushed" and honestly, the last fight should have been in the next big patch.
If it's the same writer who did Stormblood, then this makes a whole lot of sense...
Stormblood had two writers, one did the Ala Mhigo story, the other did the Doma one. It's why the story only gets good once you get to Doma then drops when you come back to Gyr abinia.
@@lovelygargoyle5248the ala migho was slow.... The 2nd half was good
It's the writers that did the Werlyt story. They were fine with side content but don't have what it takes for the main story and in a game where the story is a central part with two and a half years between expansions, it's a big disappointment.
that explain why wut lamak feels like a mary sue, just like lyse was in stormblood.
Your a complete absolute liar. Nothing to do with stormblood.
For me immersion in story broke very early on when I realized "Yeah, my WoL could have solved this real easy real quick". I'm at lvl 95 story and damn it felt like being cucked every step of the way up to there. We even came to call expansion Cucktrail in shouts because how much ppl were held back from doing shit in story.
I'm not invested in the lore the slightest, from a get-go they want me to read literal "wall of text" as a lore dump - yeah, no buddy - skip. You don't even get to hit anything until lvl 91 or 92 which is insane. You could get away with that in EW because we were invested in story but this is not how you setup new story. My last MSQ(MSQ!!!) quest was picking up bird shit. I just couldn't... I get it we are in full reset but it feels too much like ARR.
Okay transphobe. Same ppl who complain of the wol steeking with the same characters
It is a new story arc... It is literally ARR 2, it is laying ground for the next set of expansions. If you are not a lore person of course it will be slow for you, it is all lore
WoL solving everything would literally go against the point of the story, which is for Lamat to go through the trial and grow. I don't like her very much either, but to say WoL should have just solved everything shows that you weren't paying attention or didn't actually play through it.
@@bauloprete3905 who sent lil bro out in the trenches to fight with the equivalent of sticks and stones 😭 we can see all your comments, ride it raw bud 💀
FFXIV team has proven again and again that they cannot write a proper story prologue and instead resort to dumping Wikipedia information for you to read. Anyone that has read good fantasy books will know this is amateur and shitty way of doing things whereas in professional writers will set up tension, mystery, likeable characters and have player go through minor events as they are being introduced to the new setting.
I think because it's the setup to a new story arc the updates before the new expansion are saving the hype also because they're busy tryna appease all the extra content that people want that give the game replayability besides just the one time main story quest
From what I've been told by others, it's not just Wuk Lamat,, some of the other VA (English and otherwise) also have some wooden or phoned-in performances (specifically among the Scions) because they have so few lines saying not much of anything important that you get the impression a lot of the VAs weren't sure why they were brought in to record anything at all.
Black veil brides. There’s a throw back
The gameplay is super fun. Trials are amazing, dungeons feel fresh beyond just being 'new'. The story just... it drug on. It wasn't a 'slow burn', it was just slow pacing. You didn't really DO a whole lot, like a 3rd-rate visual novel.
That’s ARR for you, we are returning to the roots.
@@liamwilson7549 After 10 years you think they'd have learned how to set up the story
@rajder656 after beating FF16... no, no they have not. Still love that game but man, they really just did what they ere familiar with which is lame
I am pretty fine with how the story went except the ending doesn't sit right with me. Like the ending itself is fine but I am not ok with what happened on a personal level.
I personally found that you were more on the sidelines refreshing. They still acknowledge your strength and presence more than enough times. It doesn't always have to be directly about you.
@@rajder656 the funny thing is, ARR is better than Dawntrail at setting up shit. In Dawntrail the best way to describe your experiences is "and then this happened."
I don't think the issue is the VA's. I think they weren't properly directed. The expression often doesn't match the context. Characters giving speaks to thousands of people just talking casually to the crowd. Very, very bad directing. I wouldn't be surprised if the VAs didn't even watch the scenes during recording.
I need to know what plushie those are in the background
Ok I'll say it. The VA is fucking awful.
Yeah, I had no idea she was trans, cause when a friend showed me a clip it sounded like a woman. So what's my issue? The lack of emotion, that it sounds like AI according to a friend (giving him no context), sounds just plain and the exact same all the time, and worse of all, it makes me feel I'm on a call with customer support in India.
So far I can't say shit about the story since I haven't finished, but the VA was bad enough for me to go JP and god what a difference from the way I see the character.
hahahah
An imitation of a voice versus a voice of sincerity.
>Sounded like a woman
You might need a hearing aid.
The VA can't show emotion without their actual male voice coming through.
It actually makes sense now if its a MTF. They HAVE to tspeak in lowercase at all times because if they actually put emotion into their voice you'll hear the man underneath and it'll break immersion.
I pray for his return but I know it might never come :(
Here is the story:
A Naruto-like protag getting Pokemon Gym leader Badges to become The Hokage & save the region from the typical random Villain
As a Pokemon/Naruto fan I loved the story but I do know 1000% that is not the cup of tea for a lot of people!
Battle content wise its been AMAZING✨ better than Shadowbringers and Endwalker
Halfway through the MSQ it turns into a Disney Princess story gone horribly wrong.
@@CanYouResistClick1ng our 100% an absolute liar. seek help troll
And if you say they're not good, they'll will say it's because of phobia or some shit.
Which makes sense. If you hire for diversity rather than talent you scare the customers into thinking the product will be bad.
well no shit its phobia, character is definition of uncanny valley
we call that the victim card
Have you seen the comments of this place? Its literaly transphobia
@@fredy2041 You mean common sense?
The problem of dawntrail is the pacing. They basically make the story "I want to become Hokage" to a slow crawl with more cutscene which does not even have impact. Which lead to, early burn out.
Literally where I’m at. I haven’t even finished the lv90 quests, and I’m ok with a bit of development at a MODERATE pace to start setting the grounds for the story, and I’m painfully bored. I’m having to force myself through seemingly endless chores; it’s tribal quest MSQ from the feels of it. I get that it’s Wuk Lamats story but they could spice it up just a little to make it more interactive instead of tedious (and they could have made her a bit less of a dope). It’s to the point that I’m about to start skipping cs if they are irrelevant (which has been the majority thus far) and I don’t like that because I don’t want to miss something that could potentially be relevant to the plot. Relevancy shouldn’t be buried in a mound of waste. The story itself has been ok, kinda slow, but enough to keep my attention but let me stab something, or see someone get stabbed or a pie to the face, dammit lol
@@stanktatiousd7732 Yeah I'm not done either, still at the level 98 MSQ, but the first half took waaaaaay too long. The rite of succession should not have been half the expansion, OR they should have made it more interesting for us. That whole arc is us just being Wuk's lackey doing chores for her the entire time while absolutely nothing happens story-wise. It's painful. The second half isn't too bad so far, things start to pay off a bit more, but I haven't finished it yet, so can't say completely how it is. At any rate, it is better than the first half.
@@stanktatiousd7732so it's ARR 2.0? that's a let down
@@kizylle5204lmao that's exactly what I said to my friend when she was telling me about the whole Wuk being the main character thing. I'm like Pog we are a side character again, it's early ARR all over again. Of course I'm being sarcastic and I think it's stupid.
@@kizylle5204 Saying ARR 2.0 is a right because this expan has the best dungeon, trial ex, music in the all expan rightnow and of course graphic update, story is poopy but damn cant wait for the normal raid next week. Look at EW which has highest score but it's content is truly EW
If you think of Dawn Trail as the Naruto: Tiger Mizuki Filler Arc, its not as bad as everyone makes it out to be. The bosses in the dungeons are the real treat this time around.
I haven't started Dawntrail yet, the issue I see being not being talked about that explains some of the wonkyness is that we are starting a new story. It's gonna be bumpy.
That's said, the VA is flat to uneven from what I've seen so we might end up with a situation like the move from ARR to Heavensward where the cast was changed.
The voice actress being trans has nothing to do with the fact she just didnt have the chops for the role. And the writing team dropped the ball on things at several points. There wasnt any woke stuff I really noticed other than peace love and friendship but thats hardly woke.
Actor*
The woke part is pretending trans people are the gender they say they are, period. "Woke" in the sense that the right keeps trying to use it, is in actuality, Gnosticism.
Shes literally voice acting a fucking khajitt you guys horshoe theory so much to the other side you might as well be a tumblr activist.
"she"
you know it's jarring learning English as a second language then I turn to the west and see those who have it as their native tongues meddle with something as basic as males are "he" and females are "she"
Don’t be obtuse. Yes it does. You think they would hire a terrible VA and triple down on it if they didn’t fit a certain demographic profile.
everyone saying it's a fun hehe vacation is coping it's just a chore simulator with a super generic mid story, the writing is pretty bad but we did get really good battle content
Its medicore
Not bad
Not amazing
This. They are the people you know that do everything in a single day whenever new stuff comes out,then AFK in limsa literally forever and claim ff14 is the greatest game ever made.
@@KingOfhearts72 you seem to have strong views on final fantasy fourteen
@@KingOfhearts72 man ur replying to every comment ur worst than ppl afk in limsa get a life
I haven't finished yet but I quite like the story. It's an adventure and seeing someone grow. The warrior of light doesn't have to save the universe again.. a story can be good without huge stakes.
The 21st... Way to go =) The Shadowbringers and Endwalker expansions really are worth it for a gamer to experience... Have fun with the journey!
I have no issue with the VA or the voice of the character. What really makes her insufferable was the fact that the whole expansion was literally baby sitting this stupid cow and it felt as if the person who wrote this expac added their oc into the game and shifted focus from the player being the main character. I didn't feel like the warrior of light or hell not even an adventurer I was a glorified baby sitter at best.
Sittibg a cow? What an absolute liar
You're correct, they're lying. It's more akin to babysitting a mentally deficient toddler. She was endearing in the first half but became overbearing after the Rite was over.
@@bauloprete3905 *Baby sitting, not "Sittibg"
You got me at "cow" 😂😂
It really did feel like an OC insert, but they did it the wrong way. Wuk Lamat would have probably been better handled if she was a character amongst many instead of a character overshadowing many. The Scions feel like cameos at best and even with the non-Wuk Lamat characters that are new, they barely get any screentime or scenes. You know you've messed up when the audience likes Bakool Ja Ja more than the main protagonist of the expansion
The MSQ feels like it has been made by suits from Marvel.
Editor being the GOAT as usual.
I foresaw this happening a long time ago
Here are the criticisms of the character, and all are quite fair.
1) Even though the voices and region are based on South America, and South American women don't really find a lot of roles, they hired a greenhorn from the USA who is MtF to fake the accent. The accent doesn't sound authentic to the region.
2) The VA is doing her best, but she clearly doesn't have the skills to fake the accent and give emotion when not speaking at moderate volume. Any shouting or anger or such emotions come out dull and flat, or lose the accent.
3) More evidence is being shown each day that they altered the story during English localization to fit a more Western agenda. With a lot of the context removed, there are scenarios in the story where people perform actions that make no sense at all, and it comes across as arbitrary deus ex machina as a result.
4) The writing for Wuk Lamat is how Zack's friend described it. It's 'okay'. 'Okay' when compared to all the other characters is painful. It is like a fake, washed-out paste ruby sitting among a collection of carefully-cut and shined ceylon sapphires, tacky and distracting. 'Okay' is garbage.
5) Some of it is just lazy-goofy. Comedy and fun are great, but as an example... repurposing a minion that looks like a Mickey Mouse glove (based on the selection cursor) to point to find something, and playing it off as a serious arcane device? Not even in a playful moment. It's a life-or-death situation.
Seems like you problem. You never pointed it out this with any other character
Looks like your beibg a trans phobe
@@bauloprete3905 Stop crying like a little bitch in response to every single comment critiquing the expansion, it gets sad to see this level of fanboying.
@@ralphbeez1411ok transphobe
@@bauloprete3905 bro you need to get a life and get off the internet. you are in almost every comment defending this shit. it's pathetic and sad.
Honestly playing DT, its on pair with medicore story like ARR, not bad as people think it is. Dungeons are so far fun and the fights have been great.
Its not mediocre at all. Your a liar
@@bauloprete3905 You are correct, calling it mediocre is a long shot, it is hot garbage at best. ChatGPT writes better story if you ask it to.
@@bauloprete3905 *You're, not "Your"
ARR’s story was godawful for like 80% of it, so I suppose that comparison is apt. Fights are good though.
@Navhkrin pretty sure Baulo is chat gpt herself lol
Nice they made a Race for them in game. 😂
"Whats your excuse Baldy??"
"Mom died"
😶
hes winning ever since blizzard conspired to kill his studio and firefall huh
Some of the story issues are really the only problems I’ve had new jobs are great, trials and dungeons are fun I think everything besides is good besides a few gripes here and there.
Honestly, with how everyone is realizing the problems Dawntrail has, I hope the lead writer (Natsuko Ishikawa) comes back for the next expansion or helps with Post Dawntrail Story.
@@TacoLex yeah I do too and I think another thing is everyone coming off of endwalkers story are expecting the same thing. Like it’s a new journey new story let the folks build the thing back up but it would be good with the original writer
@@bossgroudonwow the attencion of a child. You dont get that an atc of 10 years endex, right? Why dont you read a book or go to collegue. Personal tastes are not facts. You did nlt liked it? Too bad. Yet the story is good
@@bauloprete3905 *attention, not "attencion", *college, not "collegue". Also, correct; personal tastes are not facts. That includes YOUR personal tastes.
Tbh the issue wasn't the actress, but the voice direction compared to the rest. She was being directed HORRIBLY.
Also keep in mind, after Endwalker our character's personal growth journey has essentially ended, we became a legend. Through A Realm Reborn, Heavensward, Stormblood, Shadowbringers; we follow other legends or follow their example.
In Dawntrail it is now our turn to be a legend that leads a promising new warrior to greatness.
I'v heard Wuk Lamat been described as 'The Poochie' of FF 14, and yeah its been that so far into the story.
Luckily for us, if even awesome characters as Aymeric technically disappeared after their story arc, we'll get rid of her very soon, let's hope they learn from this and don't screw it up again
I play in Japanese and I found the new protag to be as boring and stupid as Lyse in Stormblood...
Man, I had high hopes for Lyse.
On the bright side, Ayaka Shimoyamada does a great job in making her sound like an adorable idiotic kitten when they swing for comedy.
At least Lyse was stupid and naive and people were treating her as a child and help her grow up which eventually she did and became somewhat competent leader.
Here Wuk Lamat is worthless and sort of self-aware of that but ignoring this fact anyway most of the time. Yet everyone tell her she's special and in the end thanks to 'what do you know she WAS right!' miracles and being carried by WoL and her brothers she is slowly but surely get gaslit into believing that it is true.
>As Lyse
In stormblood Lyse was the tag along on your adventure. Now, you are. Wuk Lamat is 100 times worse.
yeah.. i had to change to JP voices.. and sure Lyse was bad.. but she was pretty much a naive child and she did mature during the story and Lyse was never the main character, you were. but Wuk? she doesn't mature, she isnt naive or cute, she is just a fucking child... a stupid... child... and you have to be with her... almost at every single quest... you are not even the main character, and she comes and steals your kill in the end too! LIKE... WHAT?!
Game is Midtrail.
We were lied, it's not a vacation - it's babysitting.
Fights and gameplay - top notch.
Story is modern "turn your brain off or you will hurt yourself"
Gets """better""" at 96-97.
VA is not as a problem as whole story and english localization. This dogwater somehow loses around 60% of original meaning in every voiced cutscene.
Also you forced to do WoL choices that arr-ew WoL wouldn't do. DEI message kinda trying to squeeze in.
Haven't played Dawntrailer yet, but I do feel like the first story arc of Endwalker was the final moment of FF14.
1:00 not quite, she’s the senior story designer for Dawntrail
I will say, having reached the end of Dawntrail with no spoilers…
First half had me interested at the very start but then I was really bored and looking at my phone most of the time while watching/reading all the MSQ.
Then past the half way point the story started getting interesting and my attention was caught.
While there’s a lot to say that’s good and bad and… oof. I do have to wonder… since the writer for Endwalker/Shadowbringers wasn’t involved then was Yoshi P also not as heavily involved? Could it have been because he was working on 16?
Was for me the same, before the first dungeon the story was so slow that i make to do same DF daylies.. after the first dungeon it was okay and after the 4 Dungeon (when you go to Solution 9 etc) it was good again.. just one moment in the final bossfight was.. oof
Pretty sad that you could skip every cutscene up until lv95+ and you would lose almost nothing from the story aspects, literally felt like realm reborn 2
@@kohlicoide2258
Yeah. It was badass. Using Azem’s stone and the fight was amazing. And then… that moment took it away.
I don’t want to be a Debby downer but if say someone like Emet or Zenos or a Scion showed up then it would have been amazing. But… because it wasn’t any of those characters… oof. I wonder if it’s better in JP dub.
@@XAlpt
I don’t want to be so negative about it. I liked the expansion but… in terms of ranking it’s gotta be on pair with SB or ARR.
It’s not Shadowbringers or Endwalker. That was never going to happen. But… man… I’m more excited with everything after the story. Getting away from Tuliyolal and getting to focus on Solution Nine. Just have the post story be all about that and other stuff. Keep us away from Tuliyolal 😂
Dawntrail had no chance to top Shadowbringers or Endwalker in terms of storytelling to begin with. I mean those two expansions are the climax of everything that came before, the story as we knew it ended on one hell of an epic conclusion. But that doesn't mean Dawntrail had no chance to be good on it's own, just the scale/ magnitude of things had to experience a kind of soft reset.
Did they do a good job? No!
Was it decent given the circumstances? Yeah.
It's not easy to introduce a whole bunch of new story lines, it's even harder when the story before ended on a really high note.
I didn't care much for the story outside of playing cowboy in Shaaloani, which is funny given that the zone was the breather period between the two major plots of the expansion. With minimal spoilers the first half doesn't really set up the characters for actual nation leading and is more of a culture tour. The second half goes completely off the rails and suspension of disbelief even by Final Fantasy standards. It's the kind of story a child would be accused of making.
Did... you just skip all the cutscenes?
that second half is totally in line with any ff it is basically the villains plot from ff9 before that goes up in smoke and the whole terraforming the planet so another planets population can live there blows up, its almost a 1 for 1 retelling of the near final part of ff9
@@theapothecary1774 not an argument.
@@KingOfhearts72 you are correct and quite observant, it was a question. The answer to which will give me an idea of where they are coming from with their critique.
@@cyanmage1 which does sort of track as I was getting all kinds of ff9 vibes from the second half.
The only problem i have with dawntrail is my pc can't run the game anymore
I'm level 100 but only level 92 story wise. I don't really see much of the hate. The thing I have the problem with is how much non-voiced content is in the game this expansion. It's back to stormblood/ARR voiced/non-voiced content. I just hope they do what early swtor did and just voice everything. That's a big wish though.
"Lore consultation" is that even a real thing?
@@sn5806 Which do absolutely nothing but actually good PR.
The moment when investors realize the untapped potential of rage baiting the woke mob for free publicity.
I don't know, did Elden Ring really need to pay George RR Martin?
Yes lmao, when you have a massive fantasy world, someone has to be the dictionary to make sure events fall properly within the lore
No...But yes.
@@sn5806this. Remember 16? I mean the game was also legitimately bad,but they hilariously convinced people that yoshi p,the most progressive Japanese dev ever..was somehow racist. Reminder ff14 WILL take the side of the “marginalized” every. Single. Time. If they get reported. I was banned for IN DETAIL making a report on mentors who were g wording minors in the returnees chat. Something that is PUBLIC. Which is outrageous they were comfortable doing that in a public chat. Turns out there were trans. (Cuz of course they were. 🙄)
As a controversial opinion haver I don't give a hoot about a VA being trans or not; that voice acting just wasn't very good.
The mixed reviews on Steam are not for any political reason but simply because people find the Dawntrail MSQ to be pretty undercooked.
I'm almost done with the MSQ, and for the most part I like Wuk Lamat's character. For me the issue is with the VA's vocal range.
It just feels off to me; especially with her sounds like shouts, screams, and battle cries. They don't really come off as scared or threatening as I feel they were intended to invoke.
Yeah, there's a reason the character doesn't sound right. Gee, I wonder if it doesn't have to do with the fact that they hired someone based on politics and inclusivity rather than skill?
@@sylvanex5202 They could have just hired a Latina VA....unless Hispanics are now considered 'too white' by DEI standards.
A man screaming won't sound like a woman screaming.
Guess this will mean I should switch to JP va if that's the case.
"Where's Poochie?" lol
I haven’t gotten to it yet. But honestly I’m still probably going to play it. I will form my own opinion when I get there.
I think big thing is that people play ffxiv for the story and when the story isnt super great like with shadowbringers or endwalker, the only thing left is the gameplay and the gameplay if im being honest just isnt all that special compared to most other mmos. Story is what most people will tell you to play ffxiv for so its predictable when the story is lame the game will suffer.
Bingo. Over however many years, theh have cultivated an audience of let's call them "msq andies" that play for the story. They dropped the ball on the story and thus the audience they cultivated split. One group is huffing copium "it's actually good guys", the other is actually saying what they don't like.
When it comes to Wuk Lamat. I didnt even knew she was trans to begin with. I've come back after stopping playing early into endwalker (soon after new pvp was released, cause I felt lost in the game as a new player who finished msq and lacking sites like wowhead to tell me essentially step by step to x type of content). I was doing the patches content and didnt really like it, apparently it's good when it works as nostalgia bait for whichever ff game it was.
When I watched the launch trailer I havent even met the cat in game, but holy fuck the "I wanna be hokage" being 9/10 of her lines in that trailer instantly put me off. Having watched it again I noticed the meh delivery. Out of curiosity I googled "wuk lamat bad" and Google told me I'm a transphobe, soo there's that.
@@The_YukkiNo way Google did that 😅
@@sagen06 I mean "google" is obv an oversimplification it was the first iirc reddit thread that I opened.
@@The_Yukki I mean you can tell, come on. There's certain scenes where the VA strains the voice and it really cracks. For me they're just not well suited to the role, and it's already a badly written one.
That voice acting sounded pretty damn awful I won't sugar coat it.
Liar. She did not
@@bauloprete3905 I confirm the VA sucks and you can't call a lie a subjective opinion you 🤡
@@bauloprete3905 It's an opinion. I did not lie, you think she sounded good, thats fine. I think she sounded bad, thats also fine.
@@DMaster8686ok. So your are a trans phobe
@@user-xg4nu1xn3kokay transphobe. Seek help weirdo
it's a new story ofc the focus isn't fully on the WoL and while beeing quite different in pacing and telling, it do be decent good honestly. There is for sure things to improve but it's a good start for a whole new story arc and further DLCs in the future. And Wuk Lamat is a wholesome character and the VA sounds good ingame
"Decent good" is just another way of saying "ok", and I don't know how you say it's a good start for a new arc when (practically) everything that happened in the expansion is resolved, and the only thing gotten out of it is a magic macguffin.
I would like him to play Dawntrail, would be fun...
Hire woke people feel the hammer.
Having just finished it over the weekend, I just want to provide some context. As the tweet said: a lot of people are upset on the focus of the story shifting from the character they've been playing for the last 10 years to a newly (relatively speaking) introduced NPC. I can certainly understand and appreciate that. Now I'm not going to say the writing for Dawntrail was as good as it was for Shadowbringers or Endwalker (personally I didn't think DT's writing was that bad, but that's besides the point), the problem the writers come to is The Superman Problem: how do you write a compelling story with a character so stronger that they can - in FF14's case - defeat abstract concepts like the despair of an entire universe.
Well you've got two routes. 1, the DBZ Route: just have the main character keep getting ridiculously stronger while still somehow managing to find villains that are even more ridiculously stronger. Or 2, the One Punch Man Route: have the story be more about the characters around the super strong character. Personally I say the second route is the better, and this is the route FF14 went with. They immediately run into another problem though: if you're going with the 2nd route then you still need your super strong character to be an actual character. This is not the case in FF14 where the Warrior of Light is meant to be a blank slate self insert for the player. Since the player character has no agency in the story, when a story gets written like how it is in Dawntrail it reduces the hero from being Heroic Adventurer That Saved The World to being a chaperone watching over the kiddies to make sure they don't get hurt while they're playing adventure.
Another way to look at it is that it exacerbates a problem that's been present for a few expansions: that the other characters treat the Warrior of Light as though they're just a blunt object to bash problems with. Like they're some kind of goon, just The Muscle for a mafia family. WoL: "Ay Alphinaud, you wants I should mess up this guy or sumtin'?"
Personally I didn't have a problem with it as I was able to enjoy the ride through the expansion, but I can very easily see why this change in writing would piss some people off.
There's a third route, but they'd never do it for an MMO.
That's *actually let the story end at the ending* by the way.
Endwalker was the natural conclusion to FF14. They should have let it *be* that ending. If they wanted to make a sequel, they should have made an actual sequel, and not have us tread along as literally one of the most powerful characters in the history of the entire damn franchise.
I didn't know that about wuk lamat's english VA, but during the pre-DT story where we met her, I thought there was something uncanny about the voice... so much so that I swapped the voices to JP (the JP VA is much better). When I swapped, I thought it was the accent. Either way I just couldn't convince myself that that voice would come out of that cat woman.
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TO THE CHOCOBO RACES!!!
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The voice actor is the least of dawntrails problems.
Tell me
"Soon" is 2 years and counting.
Anytime now Baldo~~
I’m dragging through the MSQ. I get so bored and don’t want to waste my night on it.
What happened to Natsuko Ishikawa?
She got promoted. Good for her, bad for us I guess. :/
She got promoted to higher position
@@dafire9634 Higher position but bear in mind it's the same one Oda has and he does very little actual writing these days. ;)
promoted, and she was working very much on 16 with Yoshi while DT was being written.
@@FaceFish9 she wasnt the main writer there either though, to clarify