Suicide Squad: DC's Most Controversial Movie?
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- Oh come on, you knew it was coming. Despite being a film that made just about every possible misstep they could take, had actually managed to accomplish something very few films do. Because did you know that today's film actually won an Academy Award? Well that 'aint the half of it' as we've got gifted rodents, a trailer the world wasn't supposed to see, and so much licensed music it'll make your head spin. All on top of a script that was written in just 6 weeks! Today we're talking about David Ayer's…or well…maybe we shouldn't identify it as that since he's been pretty adamant that this isn't his cut so…today on DC Revisited we're covering Warner Brother's Suicide Squad.
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I still remember when that very first trailer came out, I was absolutely floored. Still one of the best trailers I've ever seen. Too bad it wasn't really the movie we got.
I got to see it at the first pre screen years ago...and provided some pretty critical comments..then saw the final product...and I kid you not, it somehow got a little worse than the Version I saw
The problem is said right in the video.ever studio now thinks if it doesn't make a BILLION dollars in it's opening weekend it's a failure.just make a good movie already.
Suicide Squad is a guilty pleasure 😂
The Suicide Squad is, not this one.
This one looks nice. Margot Robbie was the shining star in this one.
I haven't seen The Suicide Squad.
This one is a guilty pleasure of mine.
it's not. it's just bad...
No one liked Jared Leto’s Joker. I did.
Liked Leto's Joker way more than *ahem* the disturbed Mr. Fleck.
I still say “What are we some kinda Suicide Squad?” To this day
In the end, the only thing I liked about this one was the soundtrack. =(
Controversial and worst are not the same thing
I thought the film was great!
Superhero movies are dying. It was a good run though. Good riddance.
Ayer Cut needed!!
I instantly fell for Margot Robbie's take on Harley Quinn
Captain Boomerang, Killer Croc, and Amanda Waller were great. Jared Leto's Joker wasn't bad, but he should have been the villain.
same
"He wrote the script in six weeks".. so what??
Some of the best films of all time were written in matter of days, and some of them didn't even had a finished script while filming.
'End of watch', one of Ayer's best films was written in 6 days!
The film was obviously cut to shreds, David Ayer is a very talented director/writer and he deserves to have his cut released, only then we'll be able to judge the film properly.
#ReleaseTheAyerCut
Just no, to all of that
Scripts need time to be the best it can be, just cuz one director did his best in one movie, doesn't mean he's the rule, he's the exception
Tyler Perry does the same thing, want to say he's good at it too?
@@ninjanibba4259 I didn't say it was okay.. yes, scripts need time, even though I also think it depends on the writer.
What I meant in my comment was that so many people blame the quality of the movie on the fact that Ayer wrote it in six weeks and that's simply wrong, there are so many factors to why the film came out the way it did.
I read many sections of the original script and the novelization and it's a fine script imo.
Ayer wouldn't have taken the job if he wouldn't been able to handle it.
Writers need to know how to work fast as well, not every studio will give you years to work on a script.
People try to find faults that aren't there just for the sake of it.
Margot Robbie was the best part of it, I think. Same with 'The Suicide Squad', and I liked her in 'Birds of Prey' too. Basically, they're worth watching for her at least. Interested in the Barbie movie mainly because she's the titular character.
Would have been interesting to see the different cut of this movie too.
i agree
the James Gunn Suicide Squad was actually really good it was just released at a really bad time right in the middle of a pandemic when people were avoiding going out to things like theaters.
I LOVED that movie
@@tonyryan1982me too
Releasing it simultaneously on streaming is what killed it
Yeah the new one is good. So is Birds of Prey and Peacemaker
True but GvK made 500 million in the middle of the pandemic
Though I’ve never seen the theatrical cut, I would be interested in seeing if David Ayer made a director’s cut, considering how he didn’t have control of the editing
I enjoyed this movie. Its too bad we didn't get the directors version though.
I loved this movie. I even saw it in the cinema twice. I've always wondered why so many people hate it.
I think the lesson here is "don't base your decisions on test screenings".
Guilty pleasure for me. It's got tone issues, you can see the edits and reshoots WB did in a panic after the response to Dawn of Justice. It can be all over the place at times. But it was enough for me to like it. Not saying it was the best. Too bad it won't see what the movie was supposed to be originally
Leto's Joker was awful in this movie but ZSJL brought him back for me. Not outright redeemed him but really had me wanting to see more of him
Lolll facts!!! 💯 I was hoping someone would say this!
I remember all the bad press coming for this movie before it came out, and you know what? I still choose to give it the benefit of doubt since I wanted to be fair. And I saw it and left feeling thoroughly unsatisfied. I had to go home and watch "Assault on Arkham" to wash the bad taste out of my mouth and it's only gotten worse since then. Now I can ignore it entirely since we eventually DID get a good live-action "Suicide Squad" film that I still have fun watching. The best legacy of this film is that it meant the new one didn't have to waste time explaining the concept.
This was the summer of superhero movies that we were hyped up for then let us down. At least Margot Robbie was a stellar actress!
When I saw the first trailer, I thought it was gonna be the next WATCHMEN
Instead, it became a "Guardians of the Galaxy" rip-off
The movie didn't need 800 million to break even. As someone who followed the Snyder era movies religiously I don't know where that info came from lol. I hope one day we get to see Ayers version and see how well it connects to ZSJL
Right? It came from the Hollwood Reporter citing an unnamed source which was clearly pulling numbers out of...somewhere. Even if we believe the bloated number for the budget and add marketing costs that puts it at like $260-270million to break even. And it made over $700million!!
It's not controversial at all. Almost everyone thinks it's rubbish.
agreed. DC just can't make movies. yhey should stick to the cartoons smh
Pretty tone deaf considering the Snyder cut IS a good movie so I imagine the directors cut of this is a completely different movie, but a troll like you only has taste in their mouth so🤷🏻♂️😂
That's not the controversy lol. Everyone agrees that the movie is bad, the problem is what the movie could've been if it wasn't for the studio interference that completely fucked it up lol
Wow, Gosling turned down the part of Joker but he would go on to work with Margot in Barbie movie anyway😄
I was so hyped for this film when the trailer dropped. Then I watched it in theaters. I was really hoping for a dark gritty film about The Suicide Squad
Also to correct the narrator it's a known fact that ZSJL was a big hit for hbo max and the reason we never got a continuation as well as the Ayer Cut is the execs had a vendetta against Snyder and wanted nothing to do with him. The only reason he got to release his cut in the first place is Jason Kilar and AT&T forced Toby Emmerich to let him release it.
Yeah, it won an oscar for something that nobody really cares ab. What was it, sound design or something? I had no idea until i watched Solar Opposites. 😅 6:04 oh, ok, it was crock's makeup. Gotcha.
I liked the Extended Cut and Margot Robbie gave for me still her best portrayal of Harley Quinn in it.
Jared Leto performance and look... 50 Cents wanabe dunked in bleach.
Better than the Gunn SS movie. Yeah i said it :P
Controversial? No. Just bad? Yes.
controversial?? nah, just sucked...
Leto is so awful, there aren't words in the English language to describe just how awful he is. This film was a terrible misfire.
Hopefully some day we ll get the Ayer Cut on HBO Max excuse me MAX someday
I don’t hate it. But it’s a film that the flaws stand out more and more each time I watch it.
Joker should've been the main VILLIAN period!!!!
I liked it. Yeah it’s a mess but it’s got tons of imagination. Most superhero films are so Generic
Test Audiences are the worst. First they approved Son of the Mask, then they gave us a comic book movie that's more confusing than good or bad
I didn't hate it. The confusing reboot also wasn't great.
Ryan Gosling and Jared Leto look the same 😂
#ReleaseTheAyerCut
The most controversial DC movie is bvs.
Why is bvs controversial?
@@garypasquill2355 polarising reactions from people and that martha scene.
it wasnt even controversial. it was just very, very edited and you could tell it was over edited after it was greenlit to be filmed one way. and lets not forget it made a ton of money at the box office so more people liked it than they didnt lol
I enjoyed the movie. I dont care what anyone thinks
Release The Ayer Cut
I Really like This Movie! And It Ties into the Zach Snyder's Man of Steel - Batman - Wonder Woman Saga! ✊👊
And Yeah Margot Robbie Is Just Fantastic In These Movies As Harley Quinn!
And Yeah I Really like Cara To 😎🍁
The "SUISIDE SQUAD" was a freak film, but the "sequal" was pure shit...
It's terrible.
I like the original Suicide Squad better than James Gunn’s version. It’s my opinion, and would watch it over the newer film anytime.
The second movie is amazing. I hate that I bombed, but at least it put Gunn and Safran in charge of DC.
It’s more in line with the comic than what the first one was
I love this movie its a guilty pleasure to just turn off ur brain and have fun but i'd love to see the Ayer Cut I loved the Snyder cut so much and made the movie feel so much better but thats just me
Yup MCU has a lighter tone and a lot of jokes.......and that BS didnt get old at all 🙄
I liked both Suicide Squad movies. I haven't read the comics though. I could see the problems with the first one, but for me, it was a fun film that received a lot of unnecessary hate. My biggest gripe is that we didn't get enough Joker.
The comics are pretty fun, if you’re interested check out Tom Taylor’s 11 issue mini-Suicide squad.
There’s also another 3 issue mini called suicide squad: Get joker which was a gritty more adult take.
Then there’s suicide squad vs justice league.
The past 7 years of suicide squad comics have been pretty good .
*Dc comics is a JOKE. This movie was sabotaged to “protect” us 😂*
EXACTLY !!!! This version of "Suicide Squad" was utterly *SABOTAGED* by clueless WB execs !
#ReleaseTheAyerCut
I liked it and enjoyed the Joker. I'm not sure why he was so hated.
6 weeks. It shows
I’d say Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice is the most controversial DC movie. Suicide Squad had a lot of potential, I hope we get to see the directors cut someday because I think that would be much more interesting film
Aaaaaaaaa-greed
YES! We need the Ayer Cut
Justice League was
I want to see the Ayer cut way more than the Snyder cut.
Ryan Gosling, Matt Smith, Sharlto Copley And Mark Strong Were All Considered For The Role Of Joker Before Jared Leto Was Cast
Would've been interesting to see Sharlto Copley's Joker
Margot Robbie - in Bootie Pants ...
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Too dark, too erratic, too many forgettable characters, too much CGI you can't figure out, that Joker, it was just a mess.
I've seen it a number of times and still struggle to actually follow it
On the other hand, I thoroughly enjoyed the reboot. It had an identity, characters that you liked, a visual appeal that didn't make you feel like the whole thing was done in a green studio and it spawned Peakmaker. Who didn't like that?
I think this one could be saved with an edit. You could take stuff from the Snyder-verse and make this pretty good. I would rather put that energy into a Justice League Trilogy FanEdit though.
Would love to see the #ayercut!
Leonardo DiCaprio, Matthew McConaughey, Sam Smith, Alexander Skarsgard, Michael Fassbender, Daniel Craig, Johnny Depp, Keanu Reeves, James McAvoy, Jason Statham, Matt Damon, Jon Hamm, Brad Pitt, Ewan McGregor, Idris Elba, Robert Pattinson And Colin Farrell Were All Considered For The Role Of Deadshot Before Will Smith Was Cast
Hey, JoBlo, Wonder Woman took place during WW1 so......NOT the 1940s.
More like 1916 through 1918 when Armistice Day was reached.
Just saying.
At least DC tried to replicate a live action joker with different joker. No matter the result was not gud but marvel is unwilling to cast a new wolverine. Oh god I am tired of seeing Hugh as wolverine.
Can't fully judge this movie unless we see David Ayer's true vision for it ...
Cause like most of early dceu movie its theatrical cut was botched by WB .
With BvS being botched, Suicide Squad being botchier and Josstice League 2017 being the botchiest of botches ...
Regardless ..
This movie still did a lot better in box office and even won an award ...
Unlike James Gunn's TSS ..
Yeah but Gunn’s version is far more superior. Plenty of good movies tank at the box office like blade runner but it’s gone on to be a classic and plenty of movies like crash were academy awards darlings but we now poke fun of crash.
@@cicolasnage5684 Good critic and audience scores meant nothing these days because it can be fixed and tampered with ...
Earnings however do not lie ..
Blade Runner isn't made for a larger demographic and like David Ayer's Suicide Squad it was also botched in theatrical release ...
James Gunn's Suicide Squad wasn't even a DC movie ...
It's a try hard Deadpool copy paste ...
With lame antagonist ..
Lousy writing ...
Unecessary abuse of animals and nudity ..
Killed characters like Rick Flag and Captain Boomerang who are a mainstay in the squad ..
Treat Amanda Waller like a joke ...
Made a clown out of everybody ...
Lousy, predictable emotional baits ..
Calling it Superior is like saying Josstice League is great movie ..
Ayer Cut now!!
#FireJamesGunn
#ReleaseTheAyerCut
#RestoreTheSnyderVerse
Okay but they're not going to. You get that right? They let Snyder do his little vanity project during the Pandemic, it did "pretty okay" and that's that. It's done.
There was absolutely nothing good about this movie....Margot Robbie and Jared leto were both insulting to the characters....the sequel/reboot wasnt any better as far as I'm concerned
The Snyder cut was amazing and The Suicide Squad from James Gunn are 2 of the best comicbook movies ever made. I dont understand how anyone whos a comicbook fan didnt loves these movies
With WB in massive debt right now I won't be surprised if they decide to release Ayers Cut of Suicode Squad since its mostly finished anyway. Far as the first movie goes its flawed and a little messy but its entertaining close to what we got from 90s style comic book films I would put it right there with something like Batman Forever the flick with theaters made a crap ton especially when you factor in it had no China release along with combined Merchandise sales this flick made a healthy profit for WB so they tried to use that to propel the sequel which flopped. I enjoyed the cast in the film minus Enchantress who just felt character wise like she was from a different movie. David Ayers Joker for me fit the style and tone of the movie with a film that revoles around villians having a crime kingpin Joker with modern tats was fine with me but he was underused.
No controversy. It's shit, because the plot is shit, the character development consists of 30 minutes of presenting the cast, the dialogue, apart from a few Quinn quotes is shit, and it's cut into worse shit. I have never been able to see the full movie, it's just too bad. It did give us Quinn, and the other suicide squad is actually an entertaining movie.
Probably a good thing James Gunn stepped in to direct the sequel/soft reboot of this super team of villains forced to do good for the government and show "Peacemaker" and that he will be a co-head on the creative side of things at DC Studios now
I’d like to see Ayer’s cut. It wasn’t terrible, but there was obviously a much better movie in there.
I think the idea, the story of Suicide Squad was good, it was just the execution failed. I still believe The Ayer Cut with his finalized script, vision, & creative control would be good.
Say what you will about the rest of the movie but Margot Robbie as Harley Quinn is up there with RDJ as Tony Stark and Hugh Jackman as Wolverine in terms of perfect casting choices
The "Black Hawk Down" vibe makes sense. Make the first half all character, like Jurassic Park. The mission goes bad, and they are left to die. They don't save the day. There is no Kaiju to fight, or ancient demon. They just fail, and Whaller is like "too bad", and just leaves them to die as she turns to plan b. Then right before they die Jared Leto swoops in to evac them in a heli, and they all go party at the club. Post credits, we see the dark side of the Justice League, as they are annoyed with having to save the day after the suicide squad failed.
At the time this movie came out I was a big twenty on pilots fan so I watched it just for the song heathens, I actually enjoyed the film (mind you I was a bit younger ) I also played the f*ck out of the shitty mobile game. 😂 Afterwards I became a BIG Margot Robbie fan.
Haven't seen SS in a while, but wouldn't mind revisiting it. I like both SS & TSS from James Gunn personally
It’s an okay movie BUT, it needs to be about 2-3 times the length so that is viewers would have had time to be “properly” invested into every one of those characters. I’m still a little sad upon looking back that I wasn’t able to become fully immersed in the movie like I’d wanted to be. Welcome to life, no Hollywierd!
Ummm, who's going to tell the guys at JoBlo that World War I was fought in the 1910s, not the 1940s? That was WWII...
Worse than bad (which it was), it was dumb and specially boring. They spent minutes that felt like hours walking through clearly studio-made streets and alleys just talking nonsense.
The issue is that they kill innocent people, so they can't be superheros. Squad fixed this by having them kill bad people, and that's weird.
Well hopefully we will get the Ayer cut, at least until James Gunn and Peter Safran's 8-10 year plan for the DCU is done first
Hopefully the DCU will give us a much better DC cinematic universe version of the Joker than Jared Leto did
I loved the movie, and so do most I know, the music, look, humor, action even Leto's Joker
Totally disagree this was dark, it was comical and fun, just my opinion, I can accept I may be in a minority on my view but it's still my view
Presumably your tease for next week is Wonder Woman? You know that isn't set in the 1940s, right?
I know I’m in the rare rare rare fkn rare opinion of liking Jared Lettos Joker more than any other version :p thought the gold gun was dope. Lol ..I fully accept any disagreement.
Also the snyder cut!!!! Really did notake any money for the studio? Thanks to its announcement HBO max was not dead in the water….
SUPER SHORT. I remember watching requiem of a drea and rhindind nķ
Went into this movie with extremely low expectations and I actually enjoyed it. It’s not great but it was entertaining enough. I’ll probably never watch it again.
Waller picks villains cause theyre ruthless and expendable. No one cares if a bad guy dies or goes missing
It had the best coming attraction. Then I started to hear the buzz how bad it was. When I finally saw it I couldn’t figure out what it was but it lacked that wow factor. Shame
Task Force X is the actual covert call name. Suicide is for shock value and triggers vibes.
Robbie was the only good part of this movie. Abd Leto ain't it folks.
I waited a year for this movie as I am a massive comic book/joker fan. I had confidence in Jared, but, soon as I heard his laugh n saw him act a lil as the joker, I knew, it was gonna be ass
The new Suicid Squad, Birds of Prey, and Peacemaker are all very good
it didnt need 800 mil to break even 🤣 warner just expected a bill because superheros apparently
I remember the first trailer that came out it was a serious trailer, then the second one came out and it was a fun and colourful trailer and it was confusing