Roberto Duran vs. Julio Cesar Chavez: Fantasy fight predictions from the Mayweather Boxing Club
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- Опубликовано: 2 фев 2019
- Jeff Mayweather asks some of the guys inside the Mayweather Boxing Club who would have won between Roberto Duran and Julio Cesar Chavez Sr.
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Duran. Bigger faster stronger. More skills was more crafty. Footwork and head movement was one of the best. Even chavez said Duran is the greatest latino fighter ever. Love both of them
Between Julio and Duran, yeah Duran would beat Julio with mid difficulty. But the greatest latino fighters were
1. Radolfo Casanova (when sober)
2. Kid Azteca
3. Cocoa Kid
These guys could beat Sugar Ray Robinson (with Kid Azteca being the most competitive fight)
@@12345shushi what about El finito or Sal Sanchez I personally think Chavez not top 5 Mexican boxer Sal, El finto, JMM, Canelo all better
@@Ali-vl1sc Here's my list of best Latino Boxers of all time,
SSS
1. Rodolfo Casanova (when drunk 8th) >Mexican Harry Greb
2. Kid Azteca >Mexico
3. Herbert Lewis Hardwick >Cuba
4. Gerardo “Kid Gavilan” Gonzalez >Cuba
5. Eligio Sardiñas Montalvo Kid Chocolate >Cuba
SS
6. Panama Al Brown >Panama
7. Juan Zurita >Mexico
8. Salvador Sanchez >Mexico
9. Roberto Duran >Panama
10. Julio Cesar Chavez Sr. >Mexico
S
11. Carlos Monzón >Argentina
12. Éder Jofre >Brazil
13. Wilfredo Gómez>Puerto Rico
14. Ruben Olivares >Mexico
15. Carlos Zárate Serna>Mexico
16. Jesús Pimentel >Mexico
17. Alexis Argüello >Panama
Low S
18. Baby Arizmendi >Mexico
19. Pascual Perez >Argentina
20. Finito Lopez >Mexico
21. Jose Toluco Lopez >Mexico
22. Lupe Pintor >Mexico
23. Rodolfo Ramirez >Mexico
24. Ricardo López >Mexico
This list isn't based on records alone, but examining fights, skills, and reports surrounding these boxers. Canelo has a record, but records doesn't necessarily reflect skill or who would win in a fight (by fighting each other, I don't mean them fighting each other from different weight classes, but if they were all equal in weight and in their ideal performance, in the abstract sense, who would win hypothetically).
Salvador (and maybe Finito, in a close 50/50) would be better than Chavez, but I don't think that Juan Manuel Marquez nor Canelo would beat Chavez, although Marquez would put up a good fight and may even win 1 out of 4 fights with Chavez. In my list Salvador Sanchez and Roberto Duran would be a close match and a difficult one to judge, although Duran has a lot of good feats and beating Leonard in their first fight when he was in good condition, his second fight he gave up and third lost being out of shape, and Salvador's life was cut short, while Duran fought 4 decades so although they are really close I Salvador due to his impeccable short but decent run edges out over Duran
Duran turn pro at 118 pounds
@@Ali-vl1sc and you are
Duran would be the favorite but Chavez is capable of a upset
If Duran took Chavez lightly. Sorry. Duran wins.
During his time, Duran was a boxer's boxer. They all secretly admired him, the way Pacquiao in the last decade was a boxer's boxer. Boxers were all saying "I wish I could do that."
Duran and Chavez are equal in almost every way, but Duran was MUCH faster and more explosive.
And the defense he had was extremely good, 70s Duran that is
@@how8955
I think Chavez had an underrated defense, he had a subtle parry and he was great at rolling with punches. But i do agree that Duran had the better defense. I just think Chavez’s was under appreciated.
Does anyone imagine the great Julio Cesar Chavez going a 15 round distance with Marvelous Marvin Hagler?
No way
Chavez could go 15
Not a fair match-up. Chavez never fought at 160
At lightweight Duran in a war. That was the best Duran.
Duran. Is. The. Greatest. Latin. Amer I can. Fighter. I. All. Time. Duran. Would. Kill. Chavez. That's. Easy. Work. Ko. No. Guy. Test
Camacho beats duran later chavez almost killed camacho
@@rromero9763 Duran was about 100 years old....
If you take Duran when he fought Enersto my god nobody could beat him.
Chavez only had one fight at 147, against Pernell. He's fought fro 126 to 140. But as far as the fight goes, I'd want it at 135 and 15 rounds. Duran wins.
Its a coin toss.... Duran was very fast and crafty. But a PRIME Chavez is just a pure seek and destroy pit bull. Both guys had legit KO power. Duran liked to move a little more and Chavez liked to march you down and impose his will.
I know Chavez is highly regarded loved but Duran was DIFFERENT. Chavez didn’t fought leonard Hearn Hagler duran fought at the highest level in weight classes he had no business in being a 135 er .. even Heavyweights regard Duran highly .. even someone like floyd ALWAYS puts him in his top 5 all time.. Duran was just different
Jeff, Chavez did fight at 135. That's where he peaked, which is why this fight would be insane. $500 PPV.
YES! Mayweather is mistaken. Chavez was an old man at 147
Durán at his prime destroy Chávez, More skils, at The end of match, Chávez dont recognise himself.
yeahhhhhh.... ... no....
@@The_Void_Staring_Back no one has ever outfought Duran. Chavez certainly can’t outbox duran. Duran better than chavez at offence and defence. And beat the bigger names.
@@pitbull8625 and he quit when he fought sugar ray Leonard
Duran lost to Esteban jesus and quit when he fought sugar ray and no freakin way Esteban is better than chesar chavez sr
@@maxmaster801 👏👏👏👏👏 exactlyyy
Duran would win. Even Julio Cesar Chavez said Duran is the greatest Latin American boxer. But it would be close.
Greatest doesn't mean best
Julio cesar chavez said that out of respect.
@@fhdbsgs3964 and truth
@@johnnyvibezzz6372 nah
@@fhdbsgs3964 yeah🤷🏽♂️
That’s my dream fight at 140lbs
Duran never fought at 140
Duran was hard as nails...beating fighters naturally bigger than himself... Moore/Barkley and even going the distance with the great Marvin hagler..He may have quit v Leonard 2 but definitely redeemed him self in later fights!
He quit because Leonard was acting like an asshole. Sticking his tongue out, running around, and at the last minute throwing a bunch of punches. Leonard was afraid to go toe to toe with Duran or Hagler. He beat Hagler on one of the worst decisions in boxing history. Hagler finally left the country and went to Italy.
@@ggeorge4144 watch the fight again.... Leonard outscored hagler throwing punches in bunches...fact I'm afraid....and I hated Leonard!
Duran Pacquiao at lightweight, I'd take Duran too. Pacquiao is technically sound but Duran is a beast. He already beat you before the bell rang just by looking at you.
Chávez didn’t beat no one at 147 Pds, Duran beat the best at 147, Duran stops Chávez
Duran's dad was Mexican.
Roberto"Rocky"Duran by unanimous decision.
At 135? Duran and I’m Mexican
Duran too strong
Hands of stone
Duran greatest ever inside fighter
Duran all the way!
Wow that dude saying easy punching bag ...
Chavez wouldn't back down and it would be a war, in that scenario Duran is unbeatable, prime Duran at least. Chavez was tough as fuck but Duran was too fast, strong and skilled overall. I'd say 10/11 round KO/TKO, just my opinion.
Could Chavez beat a prime Leonard, no a prime Moore no a prime Barkley no too big for Chavez
Hands Of Stone
How is this video 2 years old and only has 1 comment? Especially with this fantasy match up?
because youtube just started allowing comments on our videos after 2 years
@@MayweatherChannel - That's some bullshit brother. How is your channel even controversial? It's a boxing channel. You guys talk boxing, I've never heard anything political, racist, sexist... none of the stuff other channels with way more controversial topics talk about? That's crazy. I'm glad they at least opened it up now. Hopefully we'll see some good debates and discussions now. All the best from Toronto, Canada 👊🏾🤝🏾
They labeled us as a childrens channel and said we were a threat to the safety of children. apparently kids channels cant have comments because creepy old people stalk kids
@@MayweatherChannel - That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard!? Kids are more likely to watch WWF wrestling than boxing? I looked up a Hulk Hogan video of him wrestling after reading your last comment and they have THOUSANDS of comments. So why can a channel that actually attracts children have comments and a channel that has ZERO appeal to children doesn't? 99% of children under 17 dont even know modern day boxers, much less the legendary ones of the past? I would have showed RUclips the wrestling videos to show the double standard and how stupid they are. I can't believe they did that to you for two years. I can't stand the SJW/PC cancel culture within RUclips.
This is simple, they both are hard strikers, the outcome would be a draw, just like canelo vs golovkin, both have strong strike, strong chins, they just can't beat eachother, like canelo vs ggg in both fights.
Duran 8 rounds to 4.
Well, duran lost his undefeated super lightweight vs esteban de jesus and in no way is esteban de jesus better than chaves, chaves has one of the best chin of all time, even so I think maybe he would have won last but in no way would it have been a piece easy
Duran beat De Jesus two out of three.
What Esteban was a great one no Bull!!
The one he lost was a non-title fight. Duran was on the canvas twice in those fights.
Duran was to strong for Chávez,
Duran went 15 rounds with Marvin Hagler at 160, 15 rounds with Leonard at 147. One of the best of all time. Chavez is a legend, but in a normal day, Duran wins, may even stop him
some of these guys never saw Duran fight.
Chavez!!!
Why cant they meet at lightweight thats where they would be at their best.
Chavez hit hard but so did Roberto , Duran was better at slipping punches .
It would be a war . I think at 135-140 a Duran win 147 Chavez has a better chance.
Duran could take a punch I’m not so sure if Chavez’s chin was as good.
That might be a fight where those two guys were never quite the same.
People still would be talking about that fight today. That would be a war that could be fought in a phone booth.
ask an old person what that is.
Duran was knocked out cold Chavez never been knocked out
Chavez had better defense and better waist movement he also had a better chin than Duran.
Duran
chavez wins 8-4
in chavez weight class he wins hands down but at 147 duran wins
Toss up
Chavez wouldn’t be bullied as Leonard couldn’t ,So I do question Duran a little bit when he couldn’t intimidate his opponent ,would he have quit against Meldrick Taylor when he wasn’t getting his own way for 11 and a half rounds ? You could frustrate Duran as Viruet did and Benitez and Kirkland Lang but Chavez was more patient although he did like to moan .Always been a Duran fan but it broke my heart when he quit and it’s definitely exposed him and tarnished his legacy .
Nah he still a goat it doesn’t matter if he did the No más!
He came to fight not run
@scar.tissue Well Meldrick was a gold medal Olympian and literally was 2 seconds away from beating Chavez ,the cusp of greatness ,so its easy now to say Meldrick wasn’t comparable after the events but I was around at the time and he was very highly touted for potential greatness .Why would Duran of massacred Taylor when he couldn’t beat Laing or Ko Edwin Viruet twice and Benitez .Taylors hands were the fastest I probably ever saw and I’m saying it could have frustrated Duran as Leonard proved it as well as the 4 fights I mentioned that you probably haven’t seen ,that unless you stood with Duran ,he could get frustrated,so you don’t know what I’m saying based on what I saw in those fights .Watch them and then you will know what I mean .
@scar.tissue Chavez did quit on the stool after being battered as a 100 fight warrior ,at 38 I think ? A lot of ring years with his style of fighting ,but as Tyson said knowing your beat is not the same as quitting .Chavez first one was cuts ,not quitting .Its safe to say that Duran should never have taken the rematch with Leonard so soon and Chavez should never have taken the De la Hoya second fight or probably the first .
@@chromeheart6597 there was a story going around, with witnesses, that those cuts in the first fight were self administered by JCC. He was seen that evening in a bathroom stall with a razor, like pro wrestlers do. He knew he couldn't beat Oscar but didn't want to be humiliated. I mean, he was streaming blood from above the eye after the first jab he took. Wouldn't put it past him.
Duran would beat Chavez. Duran is the greatest lightweight of all time, achieved much greater heights than chavez, more divisions, better opposition faced, he was quicker, would match and exceed chavez in the clinch and work him over. Duran was the more complete fighter. Duran all day!!!!
Easy punching bag! Wow its one thing being a punching bag but easy i dont know
Chavez would win, there I said it. If anyone wants to argue, I will have a fantasy fight with you.
Darn. Period. Too big
“Julio all the way the to much heart for his own good”
Duran would beat Chavez both at there peaks these kids have no clue
JOSE DE JESUS BEAT PRIME DURAN AND PUT HIS ASs in THE CANVAS .... JCC take this fight
Lol then he loss 2 fight
Duran was really out of shape in the first fight
Duran then returned the favor by whooping his ass twice
Chavez got whooped by nobodies lmao
Vete a cocinar tacos mejicanito ridículo jajaja
Julio Cesar Chavez takes the win
Chavez would win
Chavez almost killed macho camacho after camacho beats duran
@@rromero9763 you can’t be serious Duran was like 50 years old
Duran was better
Chavez takes it by ko
Duran would have beat the Hell outta Chavez.
El les esta preguntando que quien deberia ganar en una supuesta pelea ente duran y chavez. Pero, todos ellos le contestan quien les gustaria que gane. A mi tambien me gustaria que gane duran, pero siendo realistas chavez era casi tan duro como marvin hagler y en aquella pelea duran termino abrazando y marcando distancia y finalmente perdió
¿Te imaginas a Chávez peleando en 160 libras contra Marvin Hagler durante 15 asaltos? Yo no.
Roberto Duran stops chavez
Lunatic
tyson for a fact would destroy ali,tyson beat all the way more advanced versions of him,ali couldn't handle frazier, mike not only hit way harder but had way better timing/used way more angles and was way faster, and wasn't easy to read, joe was none of those
Frazier is another one of those people like to lie about his skills, saying how he had great head movement and was hard to hit, no his head movement was up and down repeat, his patterns were very simple compared to guys in the 80s-'90s who advanced his style by a lot like his son,his son didn't do great as dad cause the era was more advanced,frazier wouldn't get anywhere in 80s-90s fighting like this
joe was easy to read same pattern as I said basic up and down head movement throw 1 or 2 punches repeat
Joes punch angles are wide hooks and straight jabs and a duck and back to repeating of coming forward up and down head movement this is his style
Joe being hard to hit is misinform it was his tenacity coming forward nonstop stopping the person from getting in their timing comfortably his defense is really basic compared to 80s-90s
@@ascendediam I agree but I think your responding in the wrong thread. What do you think about duran vs chavez now that we’re here ?
@@ascendediam bro I read this message like 3 times already are you copying and pasting ? What you think of duran vs chavez ?
@@Xenlacasa45 i don't speak like most channels; most channels speak from only watching fights by themselves without comparing to another era, from the bias of an era, or from highlights. Of course, if you watch a Louis match or a match from the 1970s-80s, they appear to be very skilled cause they were,
but when you compare a guy in 70s to 80s or a 80s to 90s or a early-mid 90s to early 00s, you can see where they are very dated and flawed compared.
I don't even do h2h matchups like other channels. I only compare advances with outdated or obsolete tech, which is why my channel will never get many views. Of course, srl/duran/hearns look really skilled for their era. What happens when I match them up side by side to a 90s guy? They look dated to me because they were missing multiple advanced angles used, tech, timing/smoothness/defense,this has nothing to do with me liking or not liking a fighters style. I am able to see every advanced or outdated/obsolete tech of all eras, no matter if I like or dislike the person style. This goes for any person and all eras I show.
Think about this, Duran lost to Camacho (twice), Chavez destroyed Camacho. So, who would win? Chavez all the way !
Duran was already older . Way past his prime .
You for real ? Duran was 45 & 50 when had losses to Camacho, Chavez was 30 when he beat Camacho!
U can't be God damn serious duran was 50 years old 🤣🤣🤣
Mf duran was a senior citizen whennhe fought Camacho
It is actually mind boggling how dumb you are. Durán was almost 50 yo. Do you have any idea how old that is for a pro fighter. And then to go the distance twice against a much younger fighter is insane (and very well has been robbed in the first fight against Camacho). Prime Durán would have killed Camacho and would also beat Chavez. Besides Chavez didnt really destroy him like you describe since it was a decision victory rather than a(T)KO. Last thing I want to mention is that it bothers me that lots of so called “fight fans” (cough cough casuals) dont seem to understand the concept of styles make fights. You cant say that just because boxer A beats boxer B and Boxer B beats boxer C that boxer A will beat boxer C because of that. That just not how fighting works (and sports in general actually). Barkley had KO’ed Hearns and Hearns did so to Duran, then why didnt Barkley KO Duran????
I hope you see the points I am making here and regret this stupid statement that you made
This must be a joke lol, Durán would shit on the face of the overrated with inflated record Chavez
Going with DURAN UDEC WIN
i like duran. if there ever was a pit bull in the ring and hated his opponent it was duran
Idiot looney find a dr
Looney find a dr