The last time I watched it, it made me think that being a kid is creepy somehow. I used to like Cheshire cat alot but now I was like " how the F would I like this creep" . It gives me the shivers just thinking about it 😰😅😅😂😂😂
The thing i love with Alice in Wonderland is that you never know if the characters she encounters are threatening or helping ? You can't apply logic to their actions, they don't obey the same rules as Alice !!
My personal favorite part, the Mad Hatter “fixing” the watch was actually mostly improvised by the voice actors while having lunch in the recording booth. Walt Disney heard them, asked the sound engineers if it was possible to save that recording. The incredulous engineers said that it would be nearly impossible to cut out the sounds of the cutlery and normal luncheon sounds. Walt simply said “that’s your problem!” And they spent months cleaning up their lunchtime chit chat to what was used in the film.
As a kid the oysters story scared me more then the rest of the movie, not sure why but even as a young kid I understood they were eaten and it freaked me out.
Its a metaphor of pedos trying to separate kids from their parents and grooming them then "eating" them alive. That story haunted me for days when I was a kid.
I always thought the Carpenter was mad at the Walrus for eating the oysters until I got older and realized he was mad because the Walrus didn't leave any for him.
@@karenhall4645 That's hammered home in the book; after hearing this story, Alice tries to find a sympathetic character out of the pair of them, only for Tweedledee and Tweedledum to point out that they both ate as many oysters as they could grab.
This is the original Alice In Wonderland, while the 2010 live action version acts as a sequel where Alice slowly begins to remember her crazy adventures in Wonderland.
the original alice in wonderland is a book. there was an adaptation in the 1910s which survives in poor condition and there were undoubtedly other adaptations from that era which are completely lost
@@evergreen9927 Alice (1988) by Jan Svankmajer is a personal favorite. Probably not appropriate for the channel though, due to all the taxidermy. I don't think it's against terms but some people find it disturbing.
Fun facts. To this day, Alice in Wonderland holds the record for the most songs in any Disney animated film. Also the actress who voiced Alice did so well Walt Disney asked her to be Wendy in Peter Pan, even the animators used the same face designs for both characters
The "Walrus and the Carpenter" is part of the "Alice in Wonderland" story. I loved this book as a child , then , at university, I took a course analyzing this book and others which was weird and fascinating. If you haven't read the book, I highly recommend you do.
I never had a course but i got a copy of the book with professor annotations and footnotes in my college bookstore. It's fascinating how much of this nonsense for kids was direct allegorical satire of contemporary English culture.
It actually makes me miserable in the movie, like actually devastated, because the oysters are so cute, and their little faces when they realise... I know it's only a story, but still. Disney is evil for making those things so adorable, there was no need! I hate them ):
Bill Thompson is the name of the actor who voiced the White Rabbit and Smee. He also did the Dodo from Alice in Wonderland and King Hubert from Sleeping Beauty, as well as Droopy and Butch from the Tex Avery Shorts.
@@Emerald-t7k Tell me about it. They distorted "Hunchback of Notre Dame" so much, Victor Hugo's family sued. Although, to be honest, no one has ever done the original book justice.
@@lisathuban8969 didn't know it was a book but that makes sense. I'll have to read it someday. Didn't watch the live action either though lol I think the only LA ones I've seen were beauty and the beast and the Alice in Wonderland's.
The use of extremely vivid color was inspired by Salvador Dali who was good friends with Walt Disney. Walt had wanted to do a version of Alice in Wonderland for many years, in fact some of his first major works were a combination of live action and animation in the 1920s called The Alice Comedies with his first failed company.
@@whitenoisereacts This is the short Dali and Disney worked on that never was completed in their lifetime. It's pretty insane. It was started in 1945 and not finished until 2002. ruclips.net/video/w38cerphic4/видео.html
@@whitenoisereacts 2:57: When you guys mention about "Ghibli", I think it had to do with Alice's design; which could possibly be done by an animator by the name of Iwao Takamoto; responsible for designs of Wendy from Peter Pan, and Princess Aurora from Sleeping Beauty. Takamoto also did designs for Hanna-Barbera; most notably the Mystery Inc. Gang from the original "Scooby-Doo Where Are You!". And you know what? These human designs are good for rotoscoping. Makes me wish Little Nemo's design from the 1984 Pilot was the main basis for the realistic human designs (similar to Alice from Disney), rather than the cartoony designs they went with for the non-surreal characters like Little Nemo, Princess Camille and Bon-Bon (as the human designs from the finalized movie felt more like something out of Animaniacs). I also hear that a character from the same 1984 pilot, named Omen (Nemo spelled backwards), was gonna have a major part of the Little Nemo movie concept; he even looked like a pre-existing character named Slivers (or Splinters); I'm guessing whoever did the 1984 pilot knew there was a character from the comics who was friends with Nemo, but didn't know he already has a name. Oh, and before you say anything; no I was never talking about the Clownfish; Little Nemo was a human boy character (with as much of a vivid imagination as Alice) that existed way back in 1905, in a Comic Series by Winsor McCay called "Little Nemo in Slumberland"; Winsor McCay being the inspiration to many animators, including Walt Disney himself.
@nickmanzo8459 Wrong, fucking dumbass. They were inspired by Mary Blair's paintings she did for this movie with concept art. Her name is literally in the opening credits idiot.
Alice is like a child wandering through the Red Light District, she doesn't know it is a dangerous seedy place, she just likes the colors and the funny people. It is only when she realizes that she is lost that she gets really sad. She is stuck between her innocence and what all the adults say is proper and right and wrong in the world. She hears what the adults are saying but doesn't really comprehend what they mean by what they say and of course the adults just expect Alice to simply go along and not question why things are the way they are.
This unfortunately happens to a lot of kids, including myself when I was younger. I always questioned things that I don't understand and never get a straight answer. So I always ended up more confused than before since the adults around me just expected me to go along with what they tell me and not question it. It is because of that kind of thinking that made me "mentally immature" as my former classmates would say. Everyone around me understood "adult things" while I didn't because the adults in my life wanted to keep my innocence, but unknowingly encouraged childish naivety to things that I should be more wary of for my future. I have a younger cousin who gets confused by these things too, and when our family doesn't give her the straight answer to her questions I always end up explaining things to her so that she would understand why they expect her to do certain things and why she shouldn't.
@@roryhillsbury100 You know, this is the type of philosophy that still happens to this day. Children will never understand what the adults do (including what the public would refuse to share, like sex), because the adults refuse to take responsibility; which makes the child’s mind ending up being “mentally immature”, thereby being nothing more than child abuse. George Carlin did a whole rant on this.
I recently read the original book for the first time and it's interesting what they left out and what they added in. For example, tweedledee and tweedledum, are not from wonderland in the book. they don't show up in Alice's adventures in wonderland. They're from the sequel book Through the looking glass, and what Alice found there. In that book she goes into another fantastical world, but it's not wonderland. So tweedledee and tweedledum, dispite what most adaptations show, aren't supposed to be in Wonderland. (neither are unbirthdays, the walrus and the carpenter and the flowers, they're all from through the looking Glass.)
The March Hare and Mad Hatter both make cameos in Chapter VII 'The Lion and the Unicorn' so the two worlds may not be completely separate - particularly as they originate in the mind of the same, slightly peculiar, child...
@@Kassabonn It also makes sense when you realize both books use pre-existing characters from Nursery Rhymes, like the Queen of Hearts (and the King) were from a poem of the same name; the book even went so far as to put the Knave of Hearts on Trial, because he actually stole the tarts in the original poem, which goes like this: “The Queen of Hearts, she made some tarts, All on a summer’s day; The Knave of Hearts, he stole the tarts, And took them clean away. The King of Hearts called for the tarts, And beat the Knave full sore; The Knave of Hearts brought back the tarts, And vowed he’d steal no more.” Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum were also characters based on a Nursery Rhyme; the poem saying: “Tweedledum and Tweedledee Agreed to have a battle; For Tweedledum said Tweedledee Had spoiled his nice new rattle. Just then flew down a monstrous crow, As black as a tar-barrel; Which frightened both the heroes so, They quite forgot their quarrel.”
There's an iconic image of Alice and Dorthy sitting together with Dinah and Toto off to each side being cute. Someone captioned it "I've seen some weird shit".
My favourite little tidbit about this movie is that the Cheshire Cat’s song that he sings is in fact the opening part of the Jabberwocky poem, it’s one of those things that you only notice if you’re familiar and truly paying attention…I sing it to myself all the time still 😅
Twas Brillig and the slivy toves, Did gyre and gimble in the wabe. All mimsy were the borogoves, And the mome raths outgrabe. Beware the Jabberwock, my son With jaws that bite and claws that catch, Beware the Jub Jub Bird, And shun the frumious Bandersnatch He took his vorpal blade in hand The vorpal blade went snicker snack He left it dead And with his head He went gallumphing back Thank Johnny Depp for that lol
In case no one has mentioned it yet, Sterling Holloway is the voice of the Cheshire Cat. His voice is immediately recognizable in everything he did, and if you close your eyes while the Cheshire Cat talks, you'll hear Winnie the Pooh, which he also voiced.
@@KrystalAnn0688 Oh, yeah. He had a million of them. I also remember an episode of The Twilight Zone where he was a creepy TV repairman. And it may be a mix-up in my brain from childhood, but I could swear he did an episode of Gilligan's Island where he raised homing pigeons? The point is, with that voice, he could play both endearing and menacing. 😳😠
I really loved this movie growing up and I always thought it was interesting that the voice actress for Alice also voices Wendy from the original Peter Pan.
To be fair, Alice and Wendy are very similar characters. They both wish they could keep their childhood forever but when their wish gets granted, they end up realising eternal youth isn't as good as they thought. At the end of their films, they choose to grow up and assume responsibility. Plus, the films were just two years apart. By the way, where would you prefer to stay - Neverland or Wonderland?
@@MisterMuffinut I honestly would have chosen Wonderland as a kid over Neverland but watching the film again and realizing some things- Both are very bad choices XDDD Neverland has a bunch of things that can kill you (crocodiles, mermaids, pirates, jealous pixies, angry indians) and Wonderland is insanity ruled by a temperamental queen with a fondness for beheading
The Mad Hatter was voiced by amazing Vaudevillian performer Ed Wynn. He wasn’t putting on a voice, he really sounded like that. He was in two very memorable roles on The Twilight Zone and even had a role inThe Diary of Anne Frank.
Ever since I as a kid, Disney’s Alice in Wonderland was very strange and yet very entertaining to me. The colors of the film were very vibrant, the characters were enjoyable, and I appreciate the humor coming from them as well, especially the Cheshire Cat, who is my favorite from the film. Very cool reaction overall!
I feel like this movie had a lot of hidden meanings to it. Like the fall down the tunnel with stuff we recognize is like when you are "falling asleep" and other stuff 🤔
The Psychology behind the Alice in Wonderland story is such a fascinating topic. My favourite take is American Mcgees Alice and Alice: Madness returns video games. They are INCREDIBLY dark, with a huge emphasis on mental health and other dark topics, and is such a good take on the Alice in Wonderland concept.
THis movie always feel like a fever dream, like Wizard of Oz too. Or a dark lsd/pcp trip, cuz it's always in darkness but with bright colors around... very incredible film, palette and composition. The movements, transitions and tricks of grandeur are so smooth.
This is my favorite Disney movie, and Alice is one of my favorite characters ever. I love how she tries to remain composed and polite even when dealing with all the crazy characters she meets, and Kathryn Beaumont voiced her brilliantly. She can also be very defiant, like when she tells off the Queen near the end. 4:01 Alice casually waving goodbye as she falls head over bloomers into Wonderland is one of the funniest visuals in the film. 4:15 The entire falling down the rabbit hole sequence is so mesmerizing, and the parachute dress is a really cute and cool way for the scene to play out. 6:12 It's a very iconic dress to be sure. ^^ 6:40 I love the shrinking effect done here, with Alice going from taking up most of the screen to a really small size. 8:33 Excellent squash and stretch animation here. 9:19 The entire Walrus and the Carpenter sequence is a pointless, mean-spirited detour from the main film, so of course I love it. :D 11:01 Alice plz. 16:10 There's one naughty flower in this garden. >:( 18:15 THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID! :D 18:51 I love this growing scene. It's so trippy. 20:25 I love Alice's disgusted reaction here. XD 22:15 When I was a kid, I actually thought the plate dipped in tea looked delicious. 25:19 This is such a mood. 30:49 The way the Queen shuts down the song is hilarious. 33:52 The character animation on the Queen is brilliant. 35:45 Hilarious rage face.
Random fact: Despite most of them lasting less than a minute, let alone a few lines only, this Disney film has the highest count of separate musical numbers.
I loved the dynamics of the King and Queen of Hearts in the book. While the queen would always sentence people to lose their head, the king would then pardon every single one immediately after behind her back. It was a secret, well known by everyone except for the queen herself, and he seemed much more powerful than he is portrayed in this movie. A well-balanced relation- and leadership so to speak. Also, your sudden and synchronised scolding of Alice made me laugh out loud. Thanks for that! :D
Towards the end it's a nice little detail that the Cheshire cat is the one is aware of it all being a dream, influences a couple things so it can finally end, and is the only one who isn't chasing Alice, though the tunnel has his stripes.
The cat is the only character (with the caterpillar) who really understood what Alice wanted and gave her an advice. I wonder if the cat has kind of divination gift because each time Alice follows his advice, she finds what she wanted
As a grownup-- this almost reads like an anxiety dream. Alice is lost in a sea of confusion, the normal rules of etiquette don't apply, everything she does is wrong, and she just gets more and more lost.
I'd love it if you guys would react to 'Red shoes and the seven dwarves'. It is an extremely underrated animated movie of which the release was boycotted because people believed (from the trailer) it would have a wrong message about beauty standards. But it is SO good! Ever since I have seen it, it has become my favorite animated movie!
After The Nightmare Before Christmas, this is my favourite Disney film. For non-Disney, I definitely recommend The Swan Princess, Fern Gully: The Last Rainforest, and The Prince of Egypt. They're all visually stunning.
Every since I was little Alice in wonderland was by far my favorite movie, it was so weird and oddly comforting in a way that I can’t fully understand. But I adored the wacky characters and how nothing really made sense in wonderland. The Cheshire Cat was definitely my favorite character, and I even memorized his lil song which is the beginning of the jabberwocky poem. Either way I adored this movie, and I still do to this day and I’m glad other people like this movie as well.
Alice in Wonderland has a very great artistic style to it. And in Wonderland, The Wizard of oz, Peter pan, Harry potter and The Chronicles of Narnia are very similar to each other because the characters from the different movies go to different worlds that are different from their own.
Do you know the video game series Kingdom Hearts? It's series of video games that crossover Disney propertities with the video game series Final Fantasy. Here's fun fact: the voice actress for Alice in this movie is called Kathryn Beaumont, she voiced Alice for the first time in this movie at the age of 13 and then later on in the Kingdom Hearts games when she was in her 70s.
I don't know if you already have this on your watch list, or if you've seen it already, but I'd love for you guys to react Disney's 'The Great Mouse Detective' (1986)! It's honestly great, and it technically saved Disney's butt back in the 80's and was the reason for the Disney Renaissance! Meaning that without it we would have never of gotten movies like The Lion king or Beauty and the Beast or The Little mermaid etc. And from a technical animation perspective, it was the first Disney movie to extensively use CGI throughout the film! So, I hope you get round to watching it if you haven't already!!
@@percy06 The characters were fun and I love how sorta dark it was for something that seemed innocent bc it's a kid's movie. You wouldn't think a group of mice led by mouse Sherlock finding a little girl's father would be entertaining but it was XD And until this day it remains such a great movie to rewatch for nostalgia too along with Rescuers Down Under
@@roryhillsbury100 ikr!! It's definitely one of my faves!! Vincent Price does such a great job as ratigan, and the Big Ben fight scene gives me chills whenever I watch it- It's just all so amazing!!
I am so happy you reacted to this. Two of my fav live action Alice in wonderland movies are the 1985 version with red buttons, Donald O’Connor, sally struthers, and the amazing carol channing, and then the sci-fi channels version from 2009 called Alice with Cathy Bates as the red Queen.
This is one of my favourite movies from earlyyy on in childhood. I know quite a lot of the script, and I love the characters illogical personalities. majority aren't helpful OR harmful and they're just purely entertaining. and it was super funny watching you guys try to understand the world and story lol
I work at an Alice in Wonderland themed cafe and every time i do a shift i hum the Walrus and the Carpenter song lol XD also i read the Jabberwocky in highschool and you're right, some of the lyrics in the songs are from that poem e.g. when the walrus says "Calooh! Callay!" it comes right from the stanza, "O frabjious day! Calooh! Callay! He chortled in his joy." The mome raths were also mentioned in the first stanza
This film is based on two separate works by Charles Lutwidge Dodgson 'Alice's Adventures in Wonderland' and 'Through the Looking Glass and what Alice found there'. While generally considered to be literary classics (though not without criticism), the story is notoriously difficult to adapt because both stories consist of a series of dream-like vignettes that (mostly) lack a cohesive narrative linking them. Other notes: - I found Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum terrifying too when I was a child. - Apparently, the Oz books were inspired by Alice in Wonderland with Frank L. Baum seeking to address the most common criticisms associated with Lewis Carroll's work - no overarching narrative and no stakes. - There's a theory that the Dodo may be a self-insert. This is because Dodgson spoke with a stutter and may have introduced himself as Do-do-Dodgson. This is also due to his appearance during the Caucus Race alongside other characters (aside from Alice) who were present when Dodgson first made up the story: Duck = Robinson Duckworth; Lory = Lorina Liddell; Eaglet = Edith Liddell. - The Cheshire Cat's reason for thinking itself mad is that it wags its tail when angry and growls/purrs when happy which is the opposite of a dog. Also, apparently Cheshire is famed for its fine milk, cheese, and other dairy products which would certainly make cats happy. - Queen of Hearts ruling the deck is theorized to be the result of a caste system. Spades are gardeners because the spade is a gardener's tool. Clubs are soldiers because the club is a weapon. Diamonds are the courtiers dressed in finery. Hearts are the royal family. Hope you enjoyed the film. Have you considered reacting to any of Cartoon Saloon's feature films? Might be a good choice given your animation background.
Am I the only one that doesn't demand books or movies have an "overarching narrative" or "clear stakes?" Sometimes I just want to read or watch something funny. Or maybe I'm just saying that because I think Alice's Adventures in Wonderland, the book, is much better written than The Wonderful Wizard of Oz, the book.
Also, as you mentioned recommendations: Disneys 1980's live action RETURN TO OZ seriously needs a reaction. Its such a dark take on the Oz franchise, and in the best way possible! It's a near masterpiece I'm ways, because its so twisted. Its borderline Horror movie. Also, The Black Cauldron needs some love!!
@@newworldastrology1102 it's such a shame that they both ALWAYS get overlooked. I think they would be quite shocked at just how good Return to Oz is, and the Blacke cauldron, has amazing animation. Plus it features the "forgotten" disney princess.
Did you, guys, know that in the first years of Disneyland Paris, there was a March Hare Cafe, where they did sell unbirthdays cakes. But you had to show them your ID to prove it was not your day of birth. 😅
Hi guys! I remember watching several documentaries about Disney in which they explained some of their animation secrets and some of their choices for the various films. In fact, it has to be said that the classics are all done manually with only small CG scenes, like the charging wildebeest descent in Lion King or Cinderella's carriage when she arrives at the castle at night for the first time. The rest is all manual work! Huge backdrops made on metres and metres of paper, characters first drawn on sheets of paper and then copied onto sheets of acetate, coloured and sequenced to give the illusion of animation. The craziest part, however, was when they explained how they managed to give the illusion of going inside the scene as seen in some films, like the Jungle Book or Beauty and the Beast. Now I don't remember if they simply zoomed in with the camera or if they also moved the backdrops while the cameraman zoomed in and filmed, but I clearly remember the image of this gigantic structure with a poor guy in front of it, with his back to the top of a ladder, holding a huge camera! XD Unfortunately for us posterity, a lot of the original material has been lost, partly because of the exorbitant production costs, the same models were reused for animation or the backdrops were readapted as needed. And partly there wasn't the concept of "let's keep all the material because it represents a piece of animation history", so having no money to spend on storage or time/will to make sure the material remained intact there was a tendency to throw away the may
My number one childhood movie. And I love it that Alice wanted nonsense, so while in wonderland she was giving it a meh, but when it became too much that even she was like ok simmer down, but it wouldn't she broke a little bit. It was very real that by exhaustion she wanted to tap out but it was that she couldn't promptly do it that upset her. Alice lives her own way, even through heightened crazy. By the end I'm sure she was glad to be back but must have felt that next time she'd be better prepared
This film and the sword in the stone are two of my favourite Disney films so I would highly recommend sword in the stone next. You should also watch bedknobs and broomsticks although it isn't fully animated. Its like Mary Poppins, live action with animation
Can we get them to watch some of the old school live action Disney films? Like "That Darn Cat", "The Love Bug", "Snowball Express", "The Cat From Outer Space", Swiss Family Robinson, and other films from the 60s era live action Disney.
A couple of voice actor notes. The Cheshire Cat was voiced by Sterling Holloway, the original voice actor for Winnie the Pooh and even kind of sounds like him. The Mad Hatter was voiced by Ed Wynn who played Uncle Albert in Mary Poppins. One recommendation that I have, even though it isn't a classic like Alice In Wonderland and a few others, is The Lion King 2: Simba's Pride. It's thr sequel to The Lion King and while Disney sequels don't always tend to be very good, The Lion King 2 is just as good as the first movie, imo. And the songs and music in the sequel rival the songs and music of the original. Love your reactions, guys. Looking forward to the next one!
the tea party (march hare and hatter) and the king have always been my favourite things of this movie XDD and now you can also see why the Burton's hatter says Alice lost her muchness. this alice was ready to fight them hahaha merry unbirthday, guys!! XDD🎂🫖
The main difference between the orginal Disney and remake is the quirkness of the character and the world. The Original movie is a lot more nonsensical and whimsical because it was supposed to mimic the dream a child would have like in the books, one of the criticisms people say agaisnt the remake is that the plot and the world makes too much sense, as in it's filled with rules that aren't necessary in a story that takes place in a dream.
@@benarts2271 the set design and costumes are fantastic aswell. It feels like watching a pop up picture book. I also love the accuracy to the original books
I think the most humorous portion is the banter at the Mad Hatter's Tea Party. The banter in the original novel is very different, but also far out. If you look up Ed Wynn (the Mad Hatter) and Jerry Colonna (the March Hare), you'll see that their characters were drawn to resemble their real-life appearance. Same is true of some of the other voice actors.
@@MrParkerman6 I specifically meant at the Tea Party, although there are significant differences thruout. Here's a .pdf of the novel. The Tea Party is on pp.95-111. I'd say there's only about 10 to 20% commonality between that and the scene in the Disney film. www.adobe.com/be_en/active-use/pdf/Alice_in_Wonderland.pdf
In the original Walrus and the Carpenter story it always annoyed how they're so hungry they were willing to commit a mass genocide of sentient beings, yet have the audacity to complain about the butter being spread too thick 🤣🤣🤣
Interesting fact, the lady that does the voice of Alice (Kathryn Beaunont) does the voice of Wendy in the classic Peter Pan, also the Queen of hearts voice (Verna Felton) is the same as the Fairy Godmother is the classic Cinderella
In France, the Cheshire Cat is voiced by Roger Carel, a guy considered as the boss of the french voice act. I can't tell all the Disney characters he voiced because the list is very very long. He left us two years ago. RIP Roger Carel
21:51 It probably reminds you of The Wizard of Oz, cuz The author of the Oz books admitted he was heavily inspired by The Alice books. He basically wanted to write an AMERICAN fairytale\ Alice type story!
Great reaction! The ending to Alice in Wonderland is pretty much ambiguous; it could’ve all been a dream or real. There’s actually a school production of this film that I did my senior year, I was the March Here, and in the ending Alice finds in her hand the White Rabbit’s pocket watch. If you were looking for another Alice in Wonderland film, there’s one called Come Away. It is actually a take on the origin of both Alice and Wonderland and Peter Pan, and it stars Angelina Jolie. 👩🏼🦱🐇⏱🐰🎩🐱🦋👸🏻❤️🖤💛
29:33 - Disney always used to do this with the colors. No matter if it's Heffalumps and Woozles, Pink Elephants on Parade, or March of the Cards, they were always eyecatching.
Glad you had fun watching a movie I love. If you guys are interested in reacting to more Alice in Wonderland adaptations, I agree with those who have commented recommending the 1999 one. It's a bit overlong (not only did they include all the scenes that this adaptation did, but they also had the puppy, the duchess and the white knight) but it's also very well written and the cast is clearly having a blast. The trial scene is a highlight.
Yes, the Walrus and the Carpenter is a poem! It’s delightfully ridiculous, like most of his poetry. Father William is another of his poems. On another note, I had a job once where one of my coworkers names was Bill. He was always Bill the Lizard in my head and I could never shake the association!
I hope you'll react to Dumbo (the animated one, I'm too scared to even look at the live action), I used to watch it a lot as a kid and it has one of the saddest scenes in Disney history imo.
I like how the newer movies, thru the looking glass was a continuation. In the original books it was wonderland re wrote with chess instead of cards a d just met same characters
Some additional info if no one has mentioned it, the talking doorknob was an original character for this movie and was not in the book. Also, to my knowledge, this film has the most songs out of any of Disney’s animated films. Also, this, and many adaptations combine both of Lewis Carroll’s books into one. Alice in Wonderland and Alice Through the Looking-Glass. Most of the characters here are from the Wonderland book. The Tweedles, the concept of Unbirthdays, and the Jabberwocky poem (Cheshire Cat song) are from Looking-Glass.
The girl who talks for Alice in this movie is the same one who talks for Wendy in Peter Pan. This movie actually took a few things from Wonderland and a few things from Through the Looking Glass and combined them all into one movie.
THUMABLINA would be a good one to watch Its not as old but still really good and one of my favorites Alice in wonderland animated is another one of my favorites and i feel like people dont mention it as much
okay, you are doing the Disney classics. I think back to when I was a kid, and watched these Disney movies. I was a normal every day boy, and my two favorite Disney classics were "Sword in the Stone" and "Pete's Dragon" but no one really reacts to them, and I wonder why? Merlin and King Arthur. Do those two.
Fun facts: In those days, to make the scenes more realistic, they would film the actors performing the scenes and sketch them based on the videos. So, the scene with Alice and the talking door, as well as Alice in the house, are almost the same as the footage. The scene with the mad hatter and the mad clock was an improvised scene by the actor that played the mad hatter.
Disney movies like ‘Dinosaurs’, ‘The Great Mouse detective’ and ‘The Black Cauldron’ are films I don’t hear people talking about enough. I think they’re really under appreciated
My main recommendations are The Aristocats and Oliver and Company (loosely based on Oliver Twist) Sorry but i have to be the Brit here and say it’s pronounced Chesheer like the county 😂 sometimes Shire is pronounced shire and sometimes it’s sheer. We’re very inconsistent. I just remembered as a child I had a little clown on a swing hanging from my ceiling. We are very different people haha.
"It's the first time I've ever seen a Disney movie like that, with the slo-mo... Yeah, it was really well done... That takes a lot of work" Not only is it impressive for the SHEER AMOUNT of work that would've had to be done due to technical limitations... Everything had to be HAND DRAWN... So when you're talking the slo-mo, they could have like up to 4 times the number of frames to get the slo-mo effect, which means LITERALLY 4 TIMES THE WORK!! And not just like some random drawings... They have to do CARBON COPIES by hand, frame by frame, so the animation doesn't look all janky.
Did you watch this movie as a kid? Wasn't it weird? What did you think?
ive watched it but it has been years since the last time i did
I always thought it was batshit crazy
The last time I watched it, it made me think that being a kid is creepy somehow. I used to like Cheshire cat alot but now I was like " how the F would I like this creep" .
It gives me the shivers just thinking about it 😰😅😅😂😂😂
Yes this movie still creeps me out to this day.
@@btsauthenticangel2624 yeah i thought there was a dash of creepy too but it was the ending to me with all of the cards and the queen
The thing i love with Alice in Wonderland is that you never know if the characters she encounters are threatening or helping ? You can't apply logic to their actions, they don't obey the same rules as Alice !!
true true truee
Heck half the time I don’t even think they themself know
@@_J.B.S._ very true !
lol 😂 yeah that’s true lol 😂
@Neoclassicism lol 😂 yeah
My personal favorite part, the Mad Hatter “fixing” the watch was actually mostly improvised by the voice actors while having lunch in the recording booth. Walt Disney heard them, asked the sound engineers if it was possible to save that recording. The incredulous engineers said that it would be nearly impossible to cut out the sounds of the cutlery and normal luncheon sounds. Walt simply said “that’s your problem!” And they spent months cleaning up their lunchtime chit chat to what was used in the film.
There is footage of it out there to be seen on RUclips if anyone’s interested
@@Cubs-Den-Reactions what do I have to search to find it???
@@c5l6t4 Alice In wonderland behind the scenes…? Maybe? Idk
@nickmanzo8459
Wrong, dumbass. You can see it on RUclips and they aren't in a both, idiot.
My favorite part of the movie was the trial
As a kid the oysters story scared me more then the rest of the movie, not sure why but even as a young kid I understood they were eaten and it freaked me out.
I never noticed until I grew up and I got freaked out that he ate them ALIVE
Actually seeing their *REMAINS* made it too much for me.
Its a metaphor of pedos trying to separate kids from their parents and grooming them then "eating" them alive. That story haunted me for days when I was a kid.
I always thought the Carpenter was mad at the Walrus for eating the oysters until I got older and realized he was mad because the Walrus didn't leave any for him.
@@karenhall4645 That's hammered home in the book; after hearing this story, Alice tries to find a sympathetic character out of the pair of them, only for Tweedledee and Tweedledum to point out that they both ate as many oysters as they could grab.
This is the original Alice In Wonderland, while the 2010 live action version acts as a sequel where Alice slowly begins to remember her crazy adventures in Wonderland.
And then they made through the looking glass the trilogy longest in the making
The original Alice in Wonderland from Disney.
the original alice in wonderland is a book. there was an adaptation in the 1910s which survives in poor condition and there were undoubtedly other adaptations from that era which are completely lost
@@evergreen9927 Alice (1988) by Jan Svankmajer is a personal favorite. Probably not appropriate for the channel though, due to all the taxidermy. I don't think it's against terms but some people find it disturbing.
@@kneau yes that's my favorite too, I speak czech which is the language of the film which, fun fact, is originally called něco z alenky :D
Fun facts. To this day, Alice in Wonderland holds the record for the most songs in any Disney animated film. Also the actress who voiced Alice did so well Walt Disney asked her to be Wendy in Peter Pan, even the animators used the same face designs for both characters
Kathryn Beaumont.
Because of this movie, every time I see a crescent moon, I think of it as the Cheshire Cat's smile.
I thought I was the only one❤️
I always think of it as Gods thumbnail (even though I’m not particularly religious) because of Disney’s Angels in the Outfield 🌙
@@KrystalAnn0688 Huh, it does look like a fingernail.
The "Walrus and the Carpenter" is part of the "Alice in Wonderland" story. I loved this book as a child , then , at university, I took a course analyzing this book and others which was weird and fascinating. If you haven't read the book, I highly recommend you do.
It’s very sad 😔 when, walrus eats oysters. 🦪
I never had a course but i got a copy of the book with professor annotations and footnotes in my college bookstore. It's fascinating how much of this nonsense for kids was direct allegorical satire of contemporary English culture.
@@Dylan_Platt Much of English stories, nursery rhymes, and lyrical poems were about very dark, real things that happened
It actually makes me miserable in the movie, like actually devastated, because the oysters are so cute, and their little faces when they realise... I know it's only a story, but still.
Disney is evil for making those things so adorable, there was no need! I hate them ):
The actor who voiced Smee is the white rabbit, and Alice is voiced by the actress who voiced Wendy!
Thank you for this. I thought I was imagining it.. Which would be on par with the story 🤔
Bill Thompson is the name of the actor who voiced the White Rabbit and Smee. He also did the Dodo from Alice in Wonderland and King Hubert from Sleeping Beauty, as well as Droopy and Butch from the Tex Avery Shorts.
Yes Katherine beaumont
Sterling Halloway voiced the Cheshire Cat. He also voiced Kaa in the Jungle Book, Winnie-the -Pooh and many other disney side characters.
@@codyclaeys2008 She is 85 now.
Fantasia next, for sure. Also, this version of "Alice" is much, much truer to the source material than the Tim Burton version.
Definitely Fantasia
Burtons is a sequel though so, yeah lol
Just watched the hocus pocus sequel.. Sticking to the base story is not a Disney speciality lmao
@@Emerald-t7k Tell me about it. They distorted "Hunchback of Notre Dame" so much, Victor Hugo's family sued. Although, to be honest, no one has ever done the original book justice.
@@lisathuban8969 didn't know it was a book but that makes sense. I'll have to read it someday. Didn't watch the live action either though lol I think the only LA ones I've seen were beauty and the beast and the Alice in Wonderland's.
The use of extremely vivid color was inspired by Salvador Dali who was good friends with Walt Disney. Walt had wanted to do a version of Alice in Wonderland for many years, in fact some of his first major works were a combination of live action and animation in the 1920s called The Alice Comedies with his first failed company.
Oh that’s cool!!
@@whitenoisereacts yeah if you want to see what Disney was doing before Mickey existed, check out The Alice Comedies, it’s a trip.
@@whitenoisereacts This is the short Dali and Disney worked on that never was completed in their lifetime. It's pretty insane. It was started in 1945 and not finished until 2002.
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@@whitenoisereacts 2:57: When you guys mention about "Ghibli", I think it had to do with Alice's design; which could possibly be done by an animator by the name of Iwao Takamoto; responsible for designs of Wendy from Peter Pan, and Princess Aurora from Sleeping Beauty. Takamoto also did designs for Hanna-Barbera; most notably the Mystery Inc. Gang from the original "Scooby-Doo Where Are You!". And you know what? These human designs are good for rotoscoping.
Makes me wish Little Nemo's design from the 1984 Pilot was the main basis for the realistic human designs (similar to Alice from Disney), rather than the cartoony designs they went with for the non-surreal characters like Little Nemo, Princess Camille and Bon-Bon (as the human designs from the finalized movie felt more like something out of Animaniacs). I also hear that a character from the same 1984 pilot, named Omen (Nemo spelled backwards), was gonna have a major part of the Little Nemo movie concept; he even looked like a pre-existing character named Slivers (or Splinters); I'm guessing whoever did the 1984 pilot knew there was a character from the comics who was friends with Nemo, but didn't know he already has a name.
Oh, and before you say anything; no I was never talking about the Clownfish; Little Nemo was a human boy character (with as much of a vivid imagination as Alice) that existed way back in 1905, in a Comic Series by Winsor McCay called "Little Nemo in Slumberland"; Winsor McCay being the inspiration to many animators, including Walt Disney himself.
@nickmanzo8459
Wrong, fucking dumbass. They were inspired by Mary Blair's paintings she did for this movie with concept art. Her name is literally in the opening credits idiot.
Alice is like a child wandering through the Red Light District, she doesn't know it is a dangerous seedy place, she just likes the colors and the funny people. It is only when she realizes that she is lost that she gets really sad. She is stuck between her innocence and what all the adults say is proper and right and wrong in the world. She hears what the adults are saying but doesn't really comprehend what they mean by what they say and of course the adults just expect Alice to simply go along and not question why things are the way they are.
This unfortunately happens to a lot of kids, including myself when I was younger. I always questioned things that I don't understand and never get a straight answer. So I always ended up more confused than before since the adults around me just expected me to go along with what they tell me and not question it. It is because of that kind of thinking that made me "mentally immature" as my former classmates would say. Everyone around me understood "adult things" while I didn't because the adults in my life wanted to keep my innocence, but unknowingly encouraged childish naivety to things that I should be more wary of for my future. I have a younger cousin who gets confused by these things too, and when our family doesn't give her the straight answer to her questions I always end up explaining things to her so that she would understand why they expect her to do certain things and why she shouldn't.
@@roryhillsbury100 You know, this is the type of philosophy that still happens to this day. Children will never understand what the adults do (including what the public would refuse to share, like sex), because the adults refuse to take responsibility; which makes the child’s mind ending up being “mentally immature”, thereby being nothing more than child abuse. George Carlin did a whole rant on this.
I recently read the original book for the first time and it's interesting what they left out and what they added in.
For example, tweedledee and tweedledum, are not from wonderland in the book. they don't show up in Alice's adventures in wonderland. They're from the sequel book Through the looking glass, and what Alice found there. In that book she goes into another fantastical world, but it's not wonderland. So tweedledee and tweedledum, dispite what most adaptations show, aren't supposed to be in Wonderland. (neither are unbirthdays, the walrus and the carpenter and the flowers, they're all from through the looking Glass.)
I like both books, but Through the Looking Glass is the better of the two IMO. I memorized the poem Jabberwocky just for fun.
The March Hare and Mad Hatter both make cameos in Chapter VII 'The Lion and the Unicorn' so the two worlds may not be completely separate - particularly as they originate in the mind of the same, slightly peculiar, child...
@@jasonbrennan9918 makes sense
@@Kassabonn It also makes sense when you realize both books use pre-existing characters from Nursery Rhymes, like the Queen of Hearts (and the King) were from a poem of the same name; the book even went so far as to put the Knave of Hearts on Trial, because he actually stole the tarts in the original poem, which goes like this:
“The Queen of Hearts, she made some tarts,
All on a summer’s day;
The Knave of Hearts, he stole the tarts,
And took them clean away.
The King of Hearts called for the tarts,
And beat the Knave full sore;
The Knave of Hearts brought back the tarts,
And vowed he’d steal no more.”
Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum were also characters based on a Nursery Rhyme; the poem saying:
“Tweedledum and Tweedledee
Agreed to have a battle;
For Tweedledum said Tweedledee
Had spoiled his nice new rattle.
Just then flew down a monstrous crow,
As black as a tar-barrel;
Which frightened both the heroes so,
They quite forgot their quarrel.”
@EstherVanlaerhoven
Cuz they are NOT twins, fucking dumbass. They are mirror images of one person, dumbass.
There's an iconic image of Alice and Dorthy sitting together with Dinah and Toto off to each side being cute. Someone captioned it "I've seen some weird shit".
My favourite little tidbit about this movie is that the Cheshire Cat’s song that he sings is in fact the opening part of the Jabberwocky poem, it’s one of those things that you only notice if you’re familiar and truly paying attention…I sing it to myself all the time still 😅
Which is from the second book.
Speak for yourself, dumbass. I always noticed.
Twas Brillig and the slivy toves,
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe.
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe.
Beware the Jabberwock, my son
With jaws that bite and claws that catch,
Beware the Jub Jub Bird,
And shun the frumious Bandersnatch
He took his vorpal blade in hand
The vorpal blade went snicker snack
He left it dead
And with his head
He went gallumphing back
Thank Johnny Depp for that lol
@@MatthewCYN15 I'd rather thank Michael Palin, frankly
In case no one has mentioned it yet, Sterling Holloway is the voice of the Cheshire Cat. His voice is immediately recognizable in everything he did, and if you close your eyes while the Cheshire Cat talks, you'll hear Winnie the Pooh, which he also voiced.
& Kaa from The Jungle Book, & I believe the Stork in Dumbo etc
@@KrystalAnn0688 Oh, yeah. He had a million of them. I also remember an episode of The Twilight Zone where he was a creepy TV repairman. And it may be a mix-up in my brain from childhood, but I could swear he did an episode of Gilligan's Island where he raised homing pigeons? The point is, with that voice, he could play both endearing and menacing. 😳😠
I really loved this movie growing up and I always thought it was interesting that the voice actress for Alice also voices Wendy from the original Peter Pan.
And Bill Thompson, the voice actor playing the White Rabbit also voiced Smee.
To be fair, Alice and Wendy are very similar characters. They both wish they could keep their childhood forever but when their wish gets granted, they end up realising eternal youth isn't as good as they thought. At the end of their films, they choose to grow up and assume responsibility. Plus, the films were just two years apart. By the way, where would you prefer to stay - Neverland or Wonderland?
@@MisterMuffinut I honestly would have chosen Wonderland as a kid over Neverland but watching the film again and realizing some things- Both are very bad choices XDDD Neverland has a bunch of things that can kill you (crocodiles, mermaids, pirates, jealous pixies, angry indians) and Wonderland is insanity ruled by a temperamental queen with a fondness for beheading
@MisterMuffinut
Alice was a real person, dumbass.
The Mad Hatter was voiced by amazing Vaudevillian performer Ed Wynn. He wasn’t putting on a voice, he really sounded like that. He was in two very memorable roles on The Twilight Zone and even had a role inThe Diary of Anne Frank.
And, of course, he played the Toymaker in Disney's *Babes in Toyland* (1961), and Uncle Albert in *Mary Poppins* (1964).
@@oliverbrownlow5615 yes, forgot all about Uncle Albert. He was such a fun personality
Yes, I watched all of these over the years. His son, Keenan Wynn, was an accomplished actor too.
@@gmunden1 Keenan was such the opposite of his father. Played a very good villain. He was the main villain in one of the Herbie/Love Bug sequels.
@@strangeworldsunlimited712 he was an amazing comic heavy, and he too had a memorable role on a Twilight Zone episode.
Ever since I as a kid, Disney’s Alice in Wonderland was very strange and yet very entertaining to me. The colors of the film were very vibrant, the characters were enjoyable, and I appreciate the humor coming from them as well, especially the Cheshire Cat, who is my favorite from the film. Very cool reaction overall!
I feel like this movie had a lot of hidden meanings to it. Like the fall down the tunnel with stuff we recognize is like when you are "falling asleep" and other stuff 🤔
This my favourite version of Alice In Wonderland!! I used to watch it on repeat as a kid.
The Psychology behind the Alice in Wonderland story is such a fascinating topic. My favourite take is American Mcgees Alice and Alice: Madness returns video games. They are INCREDIBLY dark, with a huge emphasis on mental health and other dark topics, and is such a good take on the Alice in Wonderland concept.
Love those games!
@@christiecakes014 Awesome! If these guys did video game reactions I'd be on my knees begging them to play them! I'm sooo hyped for the third game!
THis movie always feel like a fever dream, like Wizard of Oz too. Or a dark lsd/pcp trip, cuz it's always in darkness but with bright colors around... very incredible film, palette and composition. The movements, transitions and tricks of grandeur are so smooth.
This is my favorite Disney movie, and Alice is one of my favorite characters ever. I love how she tries to remain composed and polite even when dealing with all the crazy characters she meets, and Kathryn Beaumont voiced her brilliantly. She can also be very defiant, like when she tells off the Queen near the end.
4:01 Alice casually waving goodbye as she falls head over bloomers into Wonderland is one of the funniest visuals in the film.
4:15 The entire falling down the rabbit hole sequence is so mesmerizing, and the parachute dress is a really cute and cool way for the scene to play out.
6:12 It's a very iconic dress to be sure. ^^
6:40 I love the shrinking effect done here, with Alice going from taking up most of the screen to a really small size.
8:33 Excellent squash and stretch animation here.
9:19 The entire Walrus and the Carpenter sequence is a pointless, mean-spirited detour from the main film, so of course I love it. :D
11:01 Alice plz.
16:10 There's one naughty flower in this garden. >:(
18:15 THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID! :D
18:51 I love this growing scene. It's so trippy.
20:25 I love Alice's disgusted reaction here. XD
22:15 When I was a kid, I actually thought the plate dipped in tea looked delicious.
25:19 This is such a mood.
30:49 The way the Queen shuts down the song is hilarious.
33:52 The character animation on the Queen is brilliant.
35:45 Hilarious rage face.
Random fact:
Despite most of them lasting less than a minute, let alone a few lines only, this Disney film has the highest count of separate musical numbers.
I loved the dynamics of the King and Queen of Hearts in the book. While the queen would always sentence people to lose their head, the king would then pardon every single one immediately after behind her back. It was a secret, well known by everyone except for the queen herself, and he seemed much more powerful than he is portrayed in this movie. A well-balanced relation- and leadership so to speak.
Also, your sudden and synchronised scolding of Alice made me laugh out loud. Thanks for that! :D
Towards the end it's a nice little detail that the Cheshire cat is the one is aware of it all being a dream, influences a couple things so it can finally end, and is the only one who isn't chasing Alice, though the tunnel has his stripes.
The cat is the only character (with the caterpillar) who really understood what Alice wanted and gave her an advice.
I wonder if the cat has kind of divination gift because each time Alice follows his advice, she finds what she wanted
I’ve never commented before, but I’ve watched you guys lots! I’m so glad you did this movie!!!❤❤❤
Keep on keeping on!!!
As a grownup-- this almost reads like an anxiety dream. Alice is lost in a sea of confusion, the normal rules of etiquette don't apply, everything she does is wrong, and she just gets more and more lost.
Can we get a compilation video of every time James says, "Alright guys, welcome back to another reaction video"?
I would love that
I watched this movie so many times throughout my life, quoting it word for word is nothing at all 😍😍💜🐇👑
And a very merry unbirthday to you both!
I'd love it if you guys would react to 'Red shoes and the seven dwarves'.
It is an extremely underrated animated movie of which the release was boycotted because people believed (from the trailer) it would have a wrong message about beauty standards. But it is SO good! Ever since I have seen it, it has become my favorite animated movie!
After The Nightmare Before Christmas, this is my favourite Disney film. For non-Disney, I definitely recommend The Swan Princess, Fern Gully: The Last Rainforest, and The Prince of Egypt. They're all visually stunning.
Every since I was little Alice in wonderland was by far my favorite movie, it was so weird and oddly comforting in a way that I can’t fully understand. But I adored the wacky characters and how nothing really made sense in wonderland. The Cheshire Cat was definitely my favorite character, and I even memorized his lil song which is the beginning of the jabberwocky poem. Either way I adored this movie, and I still do to this day and I’m glad other people like this movie as well.
The VA of Alice, Kathryn Beaumont is the same like Wendy from Peter Pan. Both of them are drawn from her image.
IVE NEVER BEEN SO HAPPY AND EXCITED FOR A MOVIE REACTION IN MY LIFE!!! MY FAV MOVIE SINCE I WAS LIKE 4 (I’m 19 now)
Alice in Wonderland has a very great artistic style to it. And in Wonderland, The Wizard of oz, Peter pan, Harry potter and The Chronicles of Narnia are very similar to each other because the characters from the different movies go to different worlds that are different from their own.
Do you know the video game series Kingdom Hearts? It's series of video games that crossover Disney propertities with the video game series Final Fantasy. Here's fun fact: the voice actress for Alice in this movie is called Kathryn Beaumont, she voiced Alice for the first time in this movie at the age of 13 and then later on in the Kingdom Hearts games when she was in her 70s.
I was about to leave a comment about this! My mind was blown when I first learned this fact. What a fantastic voice actress.
If you ever go into classic live action Disney, "Blackbeards Ghost" and "Darby O'Gill and the Little People" are two of the best.
I love them too. My favorite are "The Ugly Dachshund" and "The Gnome-moblie".
I don't know if you already have this on your watch list, or if you've seen it already, but I'd love for you guys to react Disney's 'The Great Mouse Detective' (1986)! It's honestly great, and it technically saved Disney's butt back in the 80's and was the reason for the Disney Renaissance! Meaning that without it we would have never of gotten movies like The Lion king or Beauty and the Beast or The Little mermaid etc.
And from a technical animation perspective, it was the first Disney movie to extensively use CGI throughout the film! So, I hope you get round to watching it if you haven't already!!
Oh I love that movie!!
@@roryhillsbury100 It's so underrated!!!
@@percy06 The characters were fun and I love how sorta dark it was for something that seemed innocent bc it's a kid's movie. You wouldn't think a group of mice led by mouse Sherlock finding a little girl's father would be entertaining but it was XD And until this day it remains such a great movie to rewatch for nostalgia too along with Rescuers Down Under
@@roryhillsbury100 ikr!! It's definitely one of my faves!! Vincent Price does such a great job as ratigan, and the Big Ben fight scene gives me chills whenever I watch it-
It's just all so amazing!!
"Mustard?!?! ... Don't let's be silly. Now, lemon... that's different."
"differenter"
I am so happy you reacted to this. Two of my fav live action Alice in wonderland movies are the 1985 version with red buttons, Donald O’Connor, sally struthers, and the amazing carol channing, and then the sci-fi channels version from 2009 called Alice with Cathy Bates as the red Queen.
Always loved the visuals in this one and the story. The Cheshire cat is my favorite character of course. 💜
This is one of my favourite movies from earlyyy on in childhood. I know quite a lot of the script, and I love the characters illogical personalities. majority aren't helpful OR harmful and they're just purely entertaining. and it was super funny watching you guys try to understand the world and story lol
I work at an Alice in Wonderland themed cafe and every time i do a shift i hum the Walrus and the Carpenter song lol XD also i read the Jabberwocky in highschool and you're right, some of the lyrics in the songs are from that poem e.g. when the walrus says "Calooh! Callay!" it comes right from the stanza, "O frabjious day! Calooh! Callay! He chortled in his joy." The mome raths were also mentioned in the first stanza
13:33 fun fact: Bill Thompson voice both of the pelican and white 🐇.
This film is based on two separate works by Charles Lutwidge Dodgson 'Alice's Adventures in Wonderland' and 'Through the Looking Glass and what Alice found there'.
While generally considered to be literary classics (though not without criticism), the story is notoriously difficult to adapt because both stories consist of a series of dream-like vignettes that (mostly) lack a cohesive narrative linking them.
Other notes:
- I found Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum terrifying too when I was a child.
- Apparently, the Oz books were inspired by Alice in Wonderland with Frank L. Baum seeking to address the most common criticisms associated with Lewis Carroll's work - no overarching narrative and no stakes.
- There's a theory that the Dodo may be a self-insert. This is because Dodgson spoke with a stutter and may have introduced himself as Do-do-Dodgson. This is also due to his appearance during the Caucus Race alongside other characters (aside from Alice) who were present when Dodgson first made up the story: Duck = Robinson Duckworth; Lory = Lorina Liddell; Eaglet = Edith Liddell.
- The Cheshire Cat's reason for thinking itself mad is that it wags its tail when angry and growls/purrs when happy which is the opposite of a dog. Also, apparently Cheshire is famed for its fine milk, cheese, and other dairy products which would certainly make cats happy.
- Queen of Hearts ruling the deck is theorized to be the result of a caste system. Spades are gardeners because the spade is a gardener's tool. Clubs are soldiers because the club is a weapon. Diamonds are the courtiers dressed in finery. Hearts are the royal family.
Hope you enjoyed the film. Have you considered reacting to any of Cartoon Saloon's feature films? Might be a good choice given your animation background.
Am I the only one that doesn't demand books or movies have an "overarching narrative" or "clear stakes?" Sometimes I just want to read or watch something funny. Or maybe I'm just saying that because I think Alice's Adventures in Wonderland, the book, is much better written than The Wonderful Wizard of Oz, the book.
@@theadaptationstationmaster Personally, I agree with you, but I do think those are valid pieces of literary criticism.
It isn't difficult at all to adapt, dumbass.
Also, as you mentioned recommendations:
Disneys 1980's live action RETURN TO OZ seriously needs a reaction. Its such a dark take on the Oz franchise, and in the best way possible! It's a near masterpiece I'm ways, because its so twisted. Its borderline Horror movie.
Also, The Black Cauldron needs some love!!
Yes! Two great movies
@@newworldastrology1102 it's such a shame that they both ALWAYS get overlooked. I think they would be quite shocked at just how good Return to Oz is, and the Blacke cauldron, has amazing animation. Plus it features the "forgotten" disney princess.
I have seen one reactor do "Return to Oz," Alexa Chipman, although she is more of a reviewer with less footage and ongoing commentary.
Did you, guys, know that in the first years of Disneyland Paris, there was a March Hare Cafe, where they did sell unbirthdays cakes. But you had to show them your ID to prove it was not your day of birth. 😅
Alice in Wonderland is my favorite movie. I'm glad you'll be able to enjoy it finally!
We're all mad here :)
Hi guys!
I remember watching several documentaries about Disney in which they explained some of their animation secrets and some of their choices for the various films. In fact, it has to be said that the classics are all done manually with only small CG scenes, like the charging wildebeest descent in Lion King or Cinderella's carriage when she arrives at the castle at night for the first time. The rest is all manual work! Huge backdrops made on metres and metres of paper, characters first drawn on sheets of paper and then copied onto sheets of acetate, coloured and sequenced to give the illusion of animation.
The craziest part, however, was when they explained how they managed to give the illusion of going inside the scene as seen in some films, like the Jungle Book or Beauty and the Beast. Now I don't remember if they simply zoomed in with the camera or if they also moved the backdrops while the cameraman zoomed in and filmed, but I clearly remember the image of this gigantic structure with a poor guy in front of it, with his back to the top of a ladder, holding a huge camera! XD
Unfortunately for us posterity, a lot of the original material has been lost, partly because of the exorbitant production costs, the same models were reused for animation or the backdrops were readapted as needed. And partly there wasn't the concept of "let's keep all the material because it represents a piece of animation history", so having no money to spend on storage or time/will to make sure the material remained intact there was a tendency to throw away the may
The story lowkey feels like a child trying to navigate and understand the adult world
My number one childhood movie. And I love it that Alice wanted nonsense, so while in wonderland she was giving it a meh, but when it became too much that even she was like ok simmer down, but it wouldn't she broke a little bit. It was very real that by exhaustion she wanted to tap out but it was that she couldn't promptly do it that upset her. Alice lives her own way, even through heightened crazy. By the end I'm sure she was glad to be back but must have felt that next time she'd be better prepared
i remember watched this movie one time at 2am and scared tf out of me
This film and the sword in the stone are two of my favourite Disney films so I would highly recommend sword in the stone next. You should also watch bedknobs and broomsticks although it isn't fully animated. Its like Mary Poppins, live action with animation
Can we get them to watch some of the old school live action Disney films? Like "That Darn Cat", "The Love Bug", "Snowball Express", "The Cat From Outer Space", Swiss Family Robinson, and other films from the 60s era live action Disney.
😀😀😀😀
In Disneyland Paris they had a parade float with the giant alice in the house
A couple of voice actor notes. The Cheshire Cat was voiced by Sterling Holloway, the original voice actor for Winnie the Pooh and even kind of sounds like him. The Mad Hatter was voiced by Ed Wynn who played Uncle Albert in Mary Poppins.
One recommendation that I have, even though it isn't a classic like Alice In Wonderland and a few others, is The Lion King 2: Simba's Pride. It's thr sequel to The Lion King and while Disney sequels don't always tend to be very good, The Lion King 2 is just as good as the first movie, imo. And the songs and music in the sequel rival the songs and music of the original.
Love your reactions, guys. Looking forward to the next one!
Fun fact: Alice getting bigger and smaller by eating mushrooms was the inspiration for Super Mario.
Why doesn’t that surprise me.
the tea party (march hare and hatter) and the king have always been my favourite things of this movie XDD
and now you can also see why the Burton's hatter says Alice lost her muchness. this alice was ready to fight them hahaha
merry unbirthday, guys!! XDD🎂🫖
Why is a raven like a writing desk? Because they both produce notes
Also, Poe wrote on both.
The main difference between the orginal Disney and remake is the quirkness of the character and the world. The Original movie is a lot more nonsensical and whimsical because it was supposed to mimic the dream a child would have like in the books, one of the criticisms people say agaisnt the remake is that the plot and the world makes too much sense, as in it's filled with rules that aren't necessary in a story that takes place in a dream.
I wonder if anyone knows "Heart No kuni no Alice" 😂
An anime version of Alice in Wonderland.
My favorite version of Alice is the 1999 live action with Whoopi’s Goldberg, Martin Short, and Gene Wilder :)
Same! As cheesy as it is, solid cast and score!
@@benarts2271 the set design and costumes are fantastic aswell. It feels like watching a pop up picture book. I also love the accuracy to the original books
This movie still unsettles me as an adult, yet I love the dark whimsy of it.
She’s a British girl with all these cool remarks. 😂
I think the most humorous portion is the banter at the Mad Hatter's Tea Party. The banter in the original novel is very different, but also far out.
If you look up Ed Wynn (the Mad Hatter) and Jerry Colonna (the March Hare), you'll see that their characters were drawn to resemble their real-life appearance. Same is true of some of the other voice actors.
No the.banter in the books is NOT very different, dumbass.
@@MrParkerman6 I specifically meant at the Tea Party, although there are significant differences thruout.
Here's a .pdf of the novel. The Tea Party is on pp.95-111. I'd say there's only about 10 to 20% commonality between that and the scene in the Disney film.
www.adobe.com/be_en/active-use/pdf/Alice_in_Wonderland.pdf
In the original Walrus and the Carpenter story it always annoyed how they're so hungry they were willing to commit a mass genocide of sentient beings, yet have the audacity to complain about the butter being spread too thick 🤣🤣🤣
As a kid, it freaked me out. I couldn't watch it, it made me feel so weird. So I think I've never watched it all the way through !
Interesting fact, the lady that does the voice of Alice (Kathryn Beaunont) does the voice of Wendy in the classic Peter Pan, also the Queen of hearts voice (Verna Felton) is the same as the Fairy Godmother is the classic Cinderella
In France, the Cheshire Cat is voiced by Roger Carel, a guy considered as the boss of the french voice act.
I can't tell all the Disney characters he voiced because the list is very very long.
He left us two years ago. RIP Roger Carel
@@a.g.demada5263 Kathryn Beaumont at 85 is still alive.
@@bighand1530 wow impressive.
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It probably reminds you of The Wizard of Oz, cuz The author of the Oz books admitted he was heavily inspired by The Alice books. He basically wanted to write an AMERICAN fairytale\ Alice type story!
Great reaction! The ending to Alice in Wonderland is pretty much ambiguous; it could’ve all been a dream or real. There’s actually a school production of this film that I did my senior year, I was the March Here, and in the ending Alice finds in her hand the White Rabbit’s pocket watch. If you were looking for another Alice in Wonderland film, there’s one called Come Away. It is actually a take on the origin of both Alice and Wonderland and Peter Pan, and it stars Angelina Jolie.
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I love ‘Alice in Wonderland’ and I missed the 2 videos made on it lmao
(I hope you enjoyed it and Cheshire Cat is such a mood)
I can’t wait to see you watch the tv movies, they include the Jabberwocky and such costumes!
I'm a bit late to this but I might as well start at the very beginning. Watched this so many times during my childhood. Love it.
29:33 - Disney always used to do this with the colors.
No matter if it's Heffalumps and Woozles, Pink Elephants on Parade, or March of the Cards, they were always eyecatching.
Glad you had fun watching a movie I love. If you guys are interested in reacting to more Alice in Wonderland adaptations, I agree with those who have commented recommending the 1999 one. It's a bit overlong (not only did they include all the scenes that this adaptation did, but they also had the puppy, the duchess and the white knight) but it's also very well written and the cast is clearly having a blast. The trial scene is a highlight.
Yes, the Walrus and the Carpenter is a poem! It’s delightfully ridiculous, like most of his poetry. Father William is another of his poems.
On another note, I had a job once where one of my coworkers names was Bill. He was always Bill the Lizard in my head and I could never shake the association!
I hope you'll react to Dumbo (the animated one, I'm too scared to even look at the live action), I used to watch it a lot as a kid and it has one of the saddest scenes in Disney history imo.
I like how the newer movies, thru the looking glass was a continuation. In the original books it was wonderland re wrote with chess instead of cards a d just met same characters
Some additional info if no one has mentioned it, the talking doorknob was an original character for this movie and was not in the book. Also, to my knowledge, this film has the most songs out of any of Disney’s animated films. Also, this, and many adaptations combine both of Lewis Carroll’s books into one. Alice in Wonderland and Alice Through the Looking-Glass. Most of the characters here are from the Wonderland book. The Tweedles, the concept of Unbirthdays, and the Jabberwocky poem (Cheshire Cat song) are from Looking-Glass.
Alice is voiced by the same actress that voiced Wendy in Peter Pan
The girl who talks for Alice in this movie is the same one who talks for Wendy in Peter Pan.
This movie actually took a few things from Wonderland and a few things from Through the Looking Glass and combined them all into one movie.
If you haven’t seen the original Mary Poppins you should. Ed Wynn who plays the Mad Hatter, is in it throwing another hilarious tea party.
THUMABLINA would be a good one to watch
Its not as old but still really good and one of my favorites
Alice in wonderland animated is another one of my favorites and i feel like people dont mention it as much
Psychedelic is a good word for this. It's a complete drug movie. Jefferson Airplane even wrote a song about it called White Rabbit (awesome song).
Wrong, dumbass. That song was written about the books, not this film, fucking dumbass!
You 2 need to go to Disneyland and film it! React to all the rides and references now that you know them
okay, you are doing the Disney classics. I think back to when I was a kid, and watched these Disney movies. I was a normal every day boy, and my two favorite Disney classics were "Sword in the Stone" and "Pete's Dragon" but no one really reacts to them, and I wonder why? Merlin and King Arthur. Do those two.
Ok AWESOME!!!
i hope you guys react to the aristocats as well!! its my favorite older disney movie
I think the book is supposed to be a metaphor about growing up. Confusing and not feeling like "yourself."
Fun facts:
In those days, to make the scenes more realistic, they would film the actors performing the scenes and sketch them based on the videos. So, the scene with Alice and the talking door, as well as Alice in the house, are almost the same as the footage.
The scene with the mad hatter and the mad clock was an improvised scene by the actor that played the mad hatter.
21:17 Why so surprised? He's just _pouring a cup of tea_. (:
I always liked this part
I am so glad you did this one. This is my favorite interupretation of Alice in Wonderland and the Cheshire cat especially.
The song White Rabbit, by Jefferson Airplane, explains it all concisely.
Have you ever watched Disney on the work of the first animator 's? Yes I'm 69 so all these old Disney movies I grew up on❤️
Can’t say that I have.
Disney movies like ‘Dinosaurs’, ‘The Great Mouse detective’ and ‘The Black Cauldron’ are films I don’t hear people talking about enough. I think they’re really under appreciated
My main recommendations are The Aristocats and Oliver and Company (loosely based on Oliver Twist) Sorry but i have to be the Brit here and say it’s pronounced Chesheer like the county 😂 sometimes Shire is pronounced shire and sometimes it’s sheer. We’re very inconsistent.
I just remembered as a child I had a little clown on a swing hanging from my ceiling. We are very different people haha.
You are a life saver! Kudos to you! You rock!!
yay! this is my favorite movie of all time☺️☺️
"It's the first time I've ever seen a Disney movie like that, with the slo-mo... Yeah, it was really well done... That takes a lot of work"
Not only is it impressive for the SHEER AMOUNT of work that would've had to be done due to technical limitations... Everything had to be HAND DRAWN... So when you're talking the slo-mo, they could have like up to 4 times the number of frames to get the slo-mo effect, which means LITERALLY 4 TIMES THE WORK!! And not just like some random drawings... They have to do CARBON COPIES by hand, frame by frame, so the animation doesn't look all janky.