He's just Cheshire. He does what he wants, either it helps people, or he just does things his own way. He's just a silly lil guy. Love him or hate him.
He is just a jokester who just like to have fun. But is actually kind hearted. He just looks scary to some people, especially some kids. That's why. In all honesty he should not be considered s villain. Love the Cheshire cat
There is also indeed another Disney Cheshire Cat that not many people know about and that's from the 1992-1995 series called "Adventures in Wonderland". The Cheshire Cat in that series is mostly mischievous but like everyone else in the series, he's not really considered a villain (All the residents in Wonderland in this version are friends to Alice, even the Queen who isn't a villain either, she's just spoiled with a temper.). However, the Cheshire Cat in the series can be a jerk sometimes that may play a prank for the fun of it or even out of payback since he's not always welcomed by the other residents. The only ones that mainly respect him are Alice and the Tweedles.
The long and short of it is that specifically the Pink and Purple one (the version that Disney seems to consider as a villain) is as we would say, a Shit Stirrer, he lead allice to the queen knowing what she is like, then sabotaged the game of croquet to get the queen railed up and unleash her wrath on Alice, then they stir the pot more in the court room until it boiled over. The Grey ones is just a straight up hero Still love both Cheshire cats ;p one maybe an ass but so are actual cats is just instead of pushing ur drink off the side they get you in trouble with royalty ;p
They call him a villain because society (and by extension its institutions) villify thinking differently, abstractly, against the norm, and most of all they villify being more intelligent than most, because that threatens the very fabric of what they are trying to create. It is not random. There is a reason they would call him a villain, its called subliminal propaganda
I’d say the villain aspect goes more towards the 1951 version exclusively, as it’s not his nature or mannerisms that make him a villain it’s his actions, after directing Alice to the queen of hearts he ends up causing the queen to lose her temper leaving Alice to take the blame, then in the courtroom scene Cheshire causes a disturbance by freaking the dormouse out then when Alice shrinks after calling the Queen a ‘fat, pompous, bad tempered old tyrant’ Cheshire repeats what Alice called her causing the queen to yell ‘Off with her head’
As many have pointed out, the Cheshire Cat is pretty Chaotic Neutral most times. Though in the animated movie he did have one instance where he went full villain on Alice and deliberately got her in trouble with the Queen, who of course demanded Alice's head and this led to the trial sequence. That was Cheshire's fault. Cheshire: "You know, we could make her _really_ angry... shall we try?" Alice: "Oh no! Please no!" Cheshire: "Oh, but it's loads of fun..." (hooks the crochet mallet to lift up the Queen's dress, then disappears) Yeah, I'd say he can check off the villain box pretty easily. He may not be a dangerous villain, he just thrives on the chaos.
He should be considered a funny character and a jokester and in the animated version is helpful toward Alice when she wants to know how to find the queen of hearts
In my opinion I believe the Cheshire cat isn't evil or necessarily good I think he's a good example of a character who doesn't pick sides he is a character that mingles in the middle though he could be help to either side he doesn't or at least doesn't help in all the categories he could at least that's my take
I’ll admit, I like the Tim Burton version of Cheshire Cat, the original purple version Winnie the Pooh like-voice always scares me, but the blue color on Cheshire really suits him well, along with the voice
Ok, I have a theory that the Cheshire cat is secretly a hero and trying to wake up Alice the whole time! So on his first appearance of the movie he was helping and confusing Alice so she could wake up bc there's some people that can wake up confused; so the next appearance of him he was trying to upset the Queen and blame it on Alice so she can wake up frightened Although Alice never noticed it, that it how I like to see Cheshire cat, What do u think of this theory? 👇 Also I was explaining the cartoon Alice in wonderland lol
I dont think He's a REAL TRUE Hero Nor is he a dastardly VILE Villain. The Chesire Cat, By How he was Made By WonderLand's Magic, You can say he's pretty much Just following his Nature. Like the saying goes, "YOU DO YOU" That's What he's Doing i truly believe. He's not a bad-guy, But he's Not a Good-guy Either. He Just does what he Loves. Hes Just kinda playful.
i wouldn’t call him a villain but he not a hero either he just there to be a trickster and have fun that all fun fact: im going to be the cheshire cat in my school play of Alice in wonderland
I think since every video you showed from the park had the hand drawn Cheshire cat as opposed to the CGI Cheshire cat they don’t seem to consider Tim Burton's cat as a villain however the Hand drawn cat does take his jokes too far to the point of nearly getting Alice’s head chopped off. It’s the fact that he indeed does know the inner workings of wonderland and treats Alice like a play thing for him to trick and frame for his own fun even at her expense. While not a villain in the traditional sense I can see how he counts as a villain. Generally characters that chaotic who only seem to get the main character into trouble knowingly would count as a villain.
I wouldn't call Cheshire cat a villain but at the of the 1951 movie Cheshire cat tells the queen of hearts what Alice said kinda snitching but Cheshire cat is not a villain
What about his role in the Disney Jr show Alice's Wonderland Bakery since they heavenly tone down his mischievous personality and gave him his book personality to which he is mainly a hero in and helps Alice's great great granddaughter in various tasks to recipes in Alice's bakery
It's 'The Bloody Red Queen' mad hatters quote buy he says it quite quickly thus it can be hard to hear. Also if the theory that Wonderland is in Alice's head rings true it is possible Ches is Alice's subconscious hence being aware of things he otherwise wouldn't.
Cheshire cat est espiègle fou. Il est indépendant intelligent Il donne des conseils mais pas trop car il est mystérieux comme tous les chats C est le plus mignon des chats je l adore
In 2D classic animation, Alice was sent to court / trial & nearly got her head off by the Queen of Hearts because of Cheshire's pranks. That makes him the bad guy. 🙄
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He's just Cheshire. He does what he wants, either it helps people, or he just does things his own way. He's just a silly lil guy. Love him or hate him.
Very well put!
@@HatBoxGhost94 not according to the book
@@forrestdupre87what’s he like in the book?
@@nataliawashington872 annoying
@@nataliawashington872you should read the book. There are a lot more scenes and characters.
He is just a jokester who just like to have fun. But is actually kind hearted. He just looks scary to some people, especially some kids. That's why. In all honesty he should not be considered s villain. Love the Cheshire cat
He is the reason Alice gets into so much trouble.
Cheshire Cat is more chaotic neutral, than anything else. He does what he wants on his own time and in his own way.
Very well put, Crazyloverofcats!
hes basically loki 😭😭
Yeah, he's pretty much a prime example of chaotic neutral
He want to help Alice in his own chaotic way. 😹
CHAOTIC NEUTRAL. looks like a villain to extremes
There is also indeed another Disney Cheshire Cat that not many people know about and that's from the 1992-1995 series called "Adventures in Wonderland". The Cheshire Cat in that series is mostly mischievous but like everyone else in the series, he's not really considered a villain (All the residents in Wonderland in this version are friends to Alice, even the Queen who isn't a villain either, she's just spoiled with a temper.). However, the Cheshire Cat in the series can be a jerk sometimes that may play a prank for the fun of it or even out of payback since he's not always welcomed by the other residents. The only ones that mainly respect him are Alice and the Tweedles.
Hmmm I wonder of the cat from RWBY v9 counts
The villain, at least in the animated version, would be the Queen of Hearts.
I consider him to be a Guide. For Alice specifically. In both movies, he directly or indirectly helps in her journey with help of his mad personality.
he's chaotic neutral
The long and short of it is that specifically the Pink and Purple one (the version that Disney seems to consider as a villain) is as we would say, a Shit Stirrer, he lead allice to the queen knowing what she is like, then sabotaged the game of croquet to get the queen railed up and unleash her wrath on Alice, then they stir the pot more in the court room until it boiled over.
The Grey ones is just a straight up hero
Still love both Cheshire cats ;p one maybe an ass but so are actual cats is just instead of pushing ur drink off the side they get you in trouble with royalty ;p
Very well said! I have to agree with you’ every word!
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He's no villain!
They call him a villain because society (and by extension its institutions) villify thinking differently, abstractly, against the norm, and most of all they villify being more intelligent than most, because that threatens the very fabric of what they are trying to create. It is not random. There is a reason they would call him a villain, its called subliminal propaganda
@@cyan11_music thank you for this detailed explanation!
Ive got a theory stuck in my head that the cheshire cat is basically a god fkn around
Yeah he's the eternal one, meddling with Alice's dreams and the one who made us watch this video.
He's watching us both right now, smiling down on us.
I’d say the villain aspect goes more towards the 1951 version exclusively, as it’s not his nature or mannerisms that make him a villain it’s his actions, after directing Alice to the queen of hearts he ends up causing the queen to lose her temper leaving Alice to take the blame, then in the courtroom scene Cheshire causes a disturbance by freaking the dormouse out then when Alice shrinks after calling the Queen a ‘fat, pompous, bad tempered old tyrant’ Cheshire repeats what Alice called her causing the queen to yell ‘Off with her head’
Wow! Think you for this!
Honestly, when does Cheshire say "We're all mad here"??? He says "Most everyone's mad here".....there's a difference
He did purposefully orchestrate the attempted execution of a little girl in the animated version from the 50s.
As many have pointed out, the Cheshire Cat is pretty Chaotic Neutral most times. Though in the animated movie he did have one instance where he went full villain on Alice and deliberately got her in trouble with the Queen, who of course demanded Alice's head and this led to the trial sequence. That was Cheshire's fault.
Cheshire: "You know, we could make her _really_ angry... shall we try?"
Alice: "Oh no! Please no!"
Cheshire: "Oh, but it's loads of fun..." (hooks the crochet mallet to lift up the Queen's dress, then disappears)
Yeah, I'd say he can check off the villain box pretty easily. He may not be a dangerous villain, he just thrives on the chaos.
He should be considered a funny character and a jokester and in the animated version is helpful toward Alice when she wants to know how to find the queen of hearts
he is what is called chaotic neutral
In my opinion I believe the Cheshire cat isn't evil or necessarily good I think he's a good example of a character who doesn't pick sides he is a character that mingles in the middle though he could be help to either side he doesn't or at least doesn't help in all the categories he could at least that's my take
All of the characters in Alice are Antagonistic towards Alice.
I’ll admit, I like the Tim Burton version of Cheshire Cat, the original purple version Winnie the Pooh like-voice always scares me, but the blue color on Cheshire really suits him well, along with the voice
Ok, I have a theory that the Cheshire cat is secretly a hero and trying to wake up Alice the whole time! So on his first appearance of the movie he was helping and confusing Alice so she could wake up bc there's some people that can wake up confused; so the next appearance of him he was trying to upset the Queen and blame it on Alice so she can wake up frightened Although Alice never noticed it, that it how I like to see Cheshire cat,
What do u think of this theory?
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Also I was explaining the cartoon Alice in wonderland lol
@@mossg28 holy moly! That was an
Amazing theory! Thank you for this!
@@HatBoxGhost94 No problem I just thought of it a few days ago! :)
Cheshire Cat Is A Hero To Me Because He Doesn't Be A Villain. 😀♥️
I dont think He's a REAL TRUE Hero Nor is he a dastardly VILE Villain. The Chesire Cat, By How he was Made By WonderLand's Magic, You can say he's pretty much Just following his Nature. Like the saying goes, "YOU DO YOU" That's What he's Doing i truly believe. He's not a bad-guy, But he's Not a Good-guy Either. He Just does what he Loves. Hes Just kinda playful.
Cheshire cat is a fun cat and also if you seen the Thor movies he's kind of like Loki.😻and also he is not a bad cat
i wouldn’t call him a villain but he not a hero either he just there to be a trickster and have fun that all
fun fact: im going to be the cheshire cat in my school play of Alice in wonderland
@@EvilMonstrous17 that’s sounds like it’s going to be a lot of fun! 🤩 congratulations on the part and have fun with it!
I think since every video you showed from the park had the hand drawn Cheshire cat as opposed to the CGI Cheshire cat they don’t seem to consider Tim Burton's cat as a villain however the Hand drawn cat does take his jokes too far to the point of nearly getting Alice’s head chopped off. It’s the fact that he indeed does know the inner workings of wonderland and treats Alice like a play thing for him to trick and frame for his own fun even at her expense. While not a villain in the traditional sense I can see how he counts as a villain. Generally characters that chaotic who only seem to get the main character into trouble knowingly would count as a villain.
Very nice opinion!
Chaotic neutral, maybe?
The Chessire Cat is a character that lets Alice make her own decisions he not much of a vilian ❤❤❤
I wouldn't call Cheshire cat a villain but at the of the 1951 movie Cheshire cat tells the queen of hearts what Alice said kinda snitching but Cheshire cat is not a villain
What about his role in the Disney Jr show Alice's Wonderland Bakery since they heavenly tone down his mischievous personality and gave him his book personality to which he is mainly a hero in and helps Alice's great great granddaughter in various tasks to recipes in Alice's bakery
What does the Cheshire Cat's voice sound like in the Wonderland Bakery? I would like to know.
It's 'The Bloody Red Queen' mad hatters quote buy he says it quite quickly thus it can be hard to hear.
Also if the theory that Wonderland is in Alice's head rings true it is possible Ches is Alice's subconscious hence being aware of things he otherwise wouldn't.
Cheshire cat est espiègle fou.
Il est indépendant intelligent
Il donne des conseils mais pas trop car il est mystérieux comme tous les chats
C est le plus mignon des chats je l adore
Chesire Cat ain't now Villain He's my Spirit Animal!
Me too
Cheshire Cat is an antagonist in the original imo
Imo he’s a pretty good guardian since he leads her out of her sleep
I really don't think he's a villian all he did was gyre and gimble in the wabe
Not according to the book
The two
In 2D classic animation, Alice was sent to court / trial & nearly got her head off by the Queen of Hearts because of Cheshire's pranks. That makes him the bad guy. 🙄