Maybe the fact that Alice's whole body got taller, not just her neck, and the bird thought she was a serpent, made it more nonsensical. With the longer neck, there is some sense. Emphasis on the word 'some'
12:01 In the book the Walrus and the Carpenter both eat the oysters. At first Alice says she liked the Walrus best because he was at least a little sorry for them, but the Tweedles explained that he ate more than the Carpenter and that his holding the tides to his face wasn't so much because of tears as to hide how many he'd eaten. Alice changes her mind and says she liked the Carpenter best for not eating as many, but the Tweedles just told her that he'd eaten as many as he could get. So she just decid3d 'They're both very disagreeable characters" and left it at that.
One of the best adaptations of Lewis Carrol's story, also one of the best golden age Disney Films! Amazing how Kathryn Beaumont is still alive....man i so wish to meet her!
@@EdizAndBen Has her experience with Walt Disney and her roles in 2 roles as Wendy and Alice, are the best time she has ever had? Also, what does she compared Disney then and today?
This was almost Disney's first animated feature. In 1933 Walt wanted to do an animated/live action hybrid starring silent movie megastar Mary Pickford as Alice which would have been kind of crazy because she was already in her 40s at that point (she usually played much younger characters but this was still a stretch). He only didn't do it because he learned Paramount was making an Alice movie at the time. There are some pictures from Pickford's screen test though that are quite easy to find on google.
The Mad Hatter is, of course, "mad", as in insane, not angry. 10/6 is the price of the hat - 10 shillings, six pence. The dormouse is voiced by Jimmy McDonald, who's usual job was providing sound effects for Disney films. The alternative answer to the riddle - why is a raven like a writing desk? - is, because Edgar Allan Poe "wrote on" both.
I love your reaction Ediz!! Your looks can tell like “you’re kidding! It makes no sense”. I swear you guys are just as much as Disney fans as me though I will admit, I’m impressed you know more background info than me lol love you guys!!!
The reason the bird said that Alice was a serpent is because in the original book her neck grew which makes sense why it would think that. Originally in the 30s-40s they were planning to make a darker adaptation more similar to the book and illustrations were done by David Hall that show the concept.
@@Miss_Monroe59 oh yeah I saw the storyboard and the art of it and let's just that the art not only it's a beautiful to watch, but also the Wonderland characters are CREEPY BLOOD THIRSTY MONSTERS!😨😬 (Seriously)
Finally y’all are continuing the series, I hope the silver age doesn’t take 2 years like the other eras but I understand editing and other content that needs to be put out. This is one of those movies I never really liked when I was younger but I love now
This is personally one of my favorite movies, but I love silly, clever gimmicks. I liked it as a kid, but I didn’t really fall in love with it til I got older. It’s a true escape from reality. But the point of the movie is “thank goodness life isn’t really like this!” Alice learns throughout her dream to appreciate some of the order in life, and that’s something lots of kids need to learn (like the importance of sleep, eating vegetables and not just dessert, you have to be considerate of others, etc.). I also love the style of music and the animation art in this movie.
I love this movie and will constantly quote it like “Why no wonder you’re late this watch is exactly two days slow.” And “Never mind all that get to the part where I lose my temper.” One complaint I do have is they stick to the book of doing the cliche I feel is audience insulting of “It was all a dream it never happened.”
It’s My Un-Birthday today as well! One interesting fact I have you probably didn’t know where this was the first Disney film to have end credits and wouldn’t do again until The Black Cauldron in 1985. Ed Wynn’s dialogue was all improvised during the Reference footage and when it was time for the recording of the scripted dialogue they found it wasn’t as funny as what he said so what is in the film is his improvised work. While the film wasn’t a hit when it first came out it later became a hit in the 1960’s along with Fantasia especially on college campuses.
We were definitely surprised with the end credits! It was just the voice cast too which was interesting! And that's crazy that it's your unbirthday too! What a small world!! 🎉 Here's an unbirthday gift from us: 🎁 ruclips.net/user/shortssYq08bp9tmg 🥳
30:50 - You would probably recognize Jerry Colonna as the comic often imitated and parodied in cartoons, saying "Ah, YES!...[adjective], isn't it??" 🥸 You probably also heard him narrate "Casey at the Bat" in Make Mine Music.
I'm not gonna lie, when Ben said at the beginning that Ediz wasn't gonna like this movie, I thought he was gonna surprise us and say he loves it 😂. I certainly didn't expect him to say that this was his least favorite of all of them so far 😂
24:35 if I remember it correctly, someone please correct me if I’m wrong, the reason why the bird was calling “serpent” was in the original book when Alice at the mushroom room when she grew it was mostly her neck that shot up like a telescope, or snake like if you will.
*Ediz made me eyeroll like crazy throughout this whole video. He was already informed that Wonderland is a place where nothing makes sense, and yet he still doesn't even TRY to play along with it. Ugh.*
I feel like Ediz would enjoy the books more because as strange as they are, it actually has sense in a way that it makes you see things another way. Few examples: The Caucus race was a way to get dry after listening to a “dry” lecture but also a race where everyone wins. The watch at the mad tea party shows the day of month instead of the time so it really was 2 days slow. The flowers talk because they’re planted on hard ground instead of a soft flowerbed so most flowers are asleep. The shrinking and growing Alice goes through symbolises changes in growing up that Alice goes through an identity crisis. Eventually using the mushrooms she learns how to control the changes of size. In the white rabbits’ house it’s actually the drink me bottle but there’s no “drink me” label so Alice ponders what may happen. And that’s just a handful of examples so there’s a strange underlying logic to it
A few things to say: One of my favorites, too. I also relate to Alice's wild imagination. Here's a fact not necessarily about the movie, but about the author: Lewis Carroll is said to have been neurodivergent, having traits associated with people on the autism spectrum, such as logical thinking, preference for routine, and difficulties with social interaction. About the scene with the oysters, you could argue that it's foreshadowing events later in the movie. What drove the oysters out of the sea? Curiosity. The result: They died. What drove Alice to follow the white rabbit? Curiosity. It's a classic case of "Curiosity killed the cat." I love the face Ediz makes when he sees Alice was dreaming at 53:28. He's like, "Really?" And, yes, it is my unbirthday.
1. It is because of Lewis Carroll that we call those flying insects, butterflies. In England, they used to be called "flutterbys" because that's what they did. Carroll's pun of "bread and butterflies" really caught on with the public. 2. Sadly, the Disney writers completely rewrote The Walrus and the Carpenter. The original poem is so much better. 3. Disney originally wanted to animate the original John Tenniel drawings but was talked out of it.
This is one of my favorite Disney movies too. I feel like we can all relate to Alice at some point, especially in online discussions. We've all felt like the only polite, sane person in a roomful of crazy, rude people. LOL. (I grew up loving the Lewis Carroll books too.) A surprisingly obscure pun is when the doorknob tells Alice that her entering the door would be "simply impassible." Impassible actually means being unable to feel pain or suffering. Who knew?
OK, I didn't realize it until Ben's reaction to the Mad Hatter scene, but I like this movie. I'm sitting here laughing right along with him. Sorry, Ediz! Your complaints are absolutely spot on - and yet.... :D
Eeehh, they're really not tho? Like complaining that a story designed to be nonsense is nonsense is kind of nonsense in and of itself. It's like complaining that Thai food is spicy or their is too much sand at the beach or something. The nonsense is the point. And the "it was all a dream" ending might feel overdone NOW but it wasn't then, and it works perfectly in the context of the movie, with all the lead up you'd need to go back to say oh yeah of course she was asleep the whole time. Now all of the nonsense that followed her wish for nonsense, that upset her practical nature actually makes perfect sense.
i used to be TERRIFIED of this movie as a child but then around the time i was like 9 i started to grow fond of "weirder" movies and books. i think because i started reading more fantasy. and then this movie quickly became a favorite of time. i was so excited when they made the live action version too. it's now a comfort movie for me, i put it on when i just need some good old fashioned nonsense to distract me from life lol
Our two Disney kings have returned! And with a super long reaction no less! This was probably one of your most interesting reactions so far, in that both your views were so polarizing. Even as a kid, I was always kind of indifferent to this movie. I never liked it as much as Ben, but I didn't hate it as much as Ediz. But now that I'm an adult, I can understand and appreciate what the Wonderland story is trying to say----that while it's great to have an active imagination, there IS a reason why we have rules and laws in place. And for this specific movie, it also doubles as a "be careful what you wish for" plot. Alice wanted to live in a world of nonsense, and when she gets what she asked for, she realizes how scary and dangerous a "nonsense world" would actually be. So yes---Ediz's frustration with this movie is totally understandable.....because now HE'S in Alice's shoes.
When you said that Alice in Wonderland aired on television, while Walt Disney was still alive, that made me so excited because recently whenever I've watched Lady and the Tramp I thought that no one who made that film or was around that time got to watch it with their pet dogs. But now I think they actually did get to watch the movie with their dogs?! That's so cool!
Alice in Wonderland was my favorite Disney film as a kid. Indeed, I was so big a fan that once I even invited a friend to "celebrate my unbirthday", and he obviously didn't get the joke as he came later that evening with a present expecting a normal birthday party 😆 I think my parents had to explain to his parents that I was just going through a phase, a silly one I would add.😅
Laughing so hard! I think Edzee really proved how pretty he is in this one. 🤭🤭🤭 Poor lad. Haven't seen him suffer quite like this before.😆 I believe if he could've, he'd have crawled out of his own skin to be anywhere else. 🤣 Bless. Ben, cutie cutie chaos curator, I too have a deep rooted affection for this film. Personally I suspect it stems from the whirlwind of confusion I was expected to accept with zero explanation. So weirdly when nothing makes sense, everything makes sense. I don't know, I think it makes more dynamic characters in adulthood. 🥰
44:57 It's not a complete card deck without a king, even if he's just for show. I think I read a version of the story somewhere where every time the queen shouted "off with his/her/their head" he'd quickly whisper 'you are pardoned' to them as they were lead away and that the queen just doesn't keep track of these things, but I think that was in a rewrite.
I do think Alice in Wonderland is one of the movies that benefits from first watching at a very young age. Little kids tend to like how nonsensical and weird it is, whereas adults are likely to find it off-putting and pointless. Overall though I still really like the film.
We are all different, and different people prefer different kind of humor. For me, Monty Python is number 1 thanks to its "it doesn't have to make sense" -style of humor. A good example here: ruclips.net/video/B5H6AdKUthg/видео.html Also old Looney Tunes had some weird stuff going on, as well as old Laurel & Hardy movies that often had absurd humor.
Haven't quite finished the video yet but man alice in wonderland was such a surprise for me when I watched it I surprisingly really liked the music and world had just a magical feel alice is also a surprisingly great protagonist in the movie her mannerism and way of speech are just so fun. You guys uploading this reminded me to continue my own Disney watchtrough but getting myself to watch Oliver and company is a little more of a quest then I thought
8:37 I remember watching this movie on TV as a kid and tbh the only songs I remember are “I’m late” and “a very merry unbirthday” ! Edit: And I’m pretty sure I only remember A Very Merry Unbirthday bc of Todrick Hall’s Disney mashups bc I watched those a lot in high school
Welcome back Ediz and Ben A great reaction video to watch to cheer me up after not a great week for me. Alice in wonderland is a classic for me and I love the music and songs. Also I like Ediz’s reaction to Alice in Wonderland including the ending One theory is Lewis carol might have been on drugs when he wrote the book which I think could be possible because the movie might be about Alice experiencing a drug trip does make you wonder Overall a great reaction Ediz and Ben 🙂
Yoy you guys are back! I've missed your videos! Ediz was actually right on when he said he recognized the March Hare- Jerry Colonna did the narration for Casey at Bat back in Make Mine Music, so you have heard him before! That said, I'm kind of right in the middle of the two of you - I like parts of this movie, but the whole is just too bizarre to connect with. The king cracks me up, and I love the Cheshire Cat, though!
After you guys watch all the movies in the whole Disney canon, are you going to rank them. I know you rank each individual era but I hope at the end we get a grand ranking
On our Ko-Fi page we have been ranking each film as we go! But when we get to the end we will definitely be doing a big old ranking for sure!! Who knows how old we will all be by then 🤣
I love how Ediz is "Yeah a walking talking rabbit with a coat and a watch, yeah makes sense" But also "Hot water up his sleeves ? Now that's just too weird, how does it work ?" 😂 Also it's my unbirthday today 😁
God bless Bill Thompson, the voice of such characters as The White Rabbit, the Dodo, Mr. Smee, King Hubert, and Uncle Waldo, and of course, the one and only Droopy.
This is one of my favorite Disney movies because of how wacky and nonsensical it is! For people who rely on their imagination and are chronically bored, this is the ultimate treat! It's such a creative fuel, I know it almost by heart! It was also really cool to learn about the behind the scenes, thank you for the info!! I found it interesting to see a reaction different from what I'm used to (since everyone I know likes the movie). Thank you for the video!
Both Katheryn Beaumont and Mary Costa (Aurora/Briar Rose) are still alive. (At the time I’m commenting) This is my top 5 “turn off your brain and watch” movies 😌
This movie gives off such an eerie almost creep feel to it, my parents definitely knew I was gonna turn out to be odd when It became my favorite Disney movie of all time, I’ve rewatched this movie more times then I can count.
Something about the 10/6, it's missing a bit. In the original book illustrations, the full tag says "In this style, 10/6". It's not that he bought the hat and forgot to remove the tag, it's that he's advertising that this is how much it would cost to commission him to make this style of hat. Also, given that time is money, 10/6 also refers to Mad Hatter Day, in which people are encouraged to act "in this style". Depending on which side of the pond you're on, 10/6 is either June 10th or October 6th.
Alice in Wonderland (1951) The Golden Age of Disney when Walt was still at the helm, And Starring Ed Wynn, Sterling Holloway, and Kathryn Beaumont as Alice. 1:12 That's Alice's Older Sister, Alice Liddle The girl Alice is based on had two older sisters. And Alice Liddel was a Brunette. 3:17 Ben your a Tuber, of course your crazy, 💯% Cray Cray, That's why people watch you. 5:55 Five Doors. 8:08 Alice in Wonderland: LOGIC, LOGIC, WE DON'T USE ANY LOGIC! 10:52 Months that don't have an R are to warm and a breeding Ground for Bacteria. in a 1980s version Bill Lands and breaks his tail off, here he's just gone. 18:33 No Tuber knows that, not even me, and I'm The 👑🤴🏽 of The lost and Forgotten. I hear that in the book her neck Grew long and that's why the bird thought she was a serpent, But Yeah, I didn't understand either until I heard that. 26:27 It's Adult Flower. 30:06 Jerry Colonna is March Hare, You can tell because March Hare looks like Jerry if Jerry were an Anthropomorphic Hare. 31:29 it's My Un-Birthday. 35:33 That's my answer in 1865 a Writing desk used a Quill which came from The Raven. 36:40 I know The "MUSTARD, LET'S DON'T BE SILLY! Lemon now that's different." is my favorite Scene. 38:02 Nailed it Ben, That's an awesome Fun Fact. The Black and White was to show how dark Smashing the Mad Watch was, And he only had 2 days to retirement. 38:59 Best ad of the New Millennium, I love the Bloopers. 43:14 An Hour in Wonderland is on my 📀, it was a Christmas Special, The Coke ads for an Hour in Wonderland were quite good, Much like your Funko ad. 46:41 A Chartreuse Hedgehog ball to go with her Chartreuse Flamingo Mallet. 53:30 Now it's a Lucid Dream. All a Dream from The Ripples in the water and White Rabbit, until she wakes up. I love this movie.
I love this movie. I've always loved it, and the original stories. People get too caught up in "the plot" and whether or not it makes sense. Who cares if it makes sense? This is a children's movie, based on children's books. It doesn't have to be "War and Peace". Ediz's reaction to this reminds me a lot of other RUclips reactors watching "Monty Python" for the first time, specifically "Monty Python and the Holy Grail", and being like "Nope, too random, doesn't make sense, crappy ending, I don't like it". Just relax your brain and take it for what it *is*, which is a fun story about fun characters doing fun things. It's a little bit mad, yes, but it's supposed to be. That's what makes it great.
So for the Tweedles dance I feel like you can't do it in real life as is, but if you start off back to back and one person hops off the other persons back you could maybe revers it in editing and play with the frames to get the effect you want through editing. Y'all probably thought of that though just wanted to mention it in case. 🤘
Ediz - I personally felt attacked when you said the story of "the walrus and the carpenter" was a waste of time and not relevant for the plot 😢 I mean, you're right, but it's still my favorite part of the movie 😂❤ "The time has come!" Ben - 3:03 - 100% feel you on this one and can relate 👌🫧✨️
I'm not trying to be mean, but the ending may seem generic for our time, but we should keep in mind that tropes happen over time.❤ When I was a kid Alice in Wonderland was my favorite. It's hard to explain when you get older how bright and vivid and fun everything was. It's different now that I'm older. I remember when I first saw it was on TV at a babysitters house. I kept begging her to turn the channel back because she kept changing it.
For me, I like Johnny depp version for couple reasons: Johnny depp's mad hatter has magic while being less crazy than the animated one and alice can fight
I think the cat IS chesire. I think every character represents an irl character like wizard of oz. The rabbit is a random rabbit found on the grass, diamond is chesire, Tweedledum and Tweedledee are probably her brothers, Queen of hearts is her sister and the king is her dad or sisters bf mb
I think this movie put me off mustard completely. I hadn't eaten mustard before seeing this but had had everything else (special task when getting fish and chips, to ask for two slices of lemon), so I just alienated mustard and took the mad hatter seriously when he passed on mustard.
I know you guys haven't gone to disneyland yet, but we have a teacup ride like disney World had one , but we have 2 rides actually, and it's a caterpillar ride to. But im from disneyland California but someday ill go different disney parks in different nations
This is probably one of my least favorite Disney movies. I watched all the animated Disney films for a project a while back and when I got to the Walrus and the Carpenter part of this movie I was like, "Nope, never watching this again."
... EVERYONE talks about Alice in Wonderland. What in the world. Is this cultural or generational? Alice was super popular, it had a massive resurgence throughout the late 90s and early 00s, at least in the US. And this is Disney Alice not just Alice in general, though Alice in Wonderland in general has always been mad popular. It is referenced in pop culture a lot because of its popularity and icon status, and was one of the first to grab a live action remake because it's the sort of thing creatives connect to create and had a really established audience.
I must say, as much as I know it's an acquired taste... I ADORE this movie! It is my second favourite Disney movie of all time; the n.1 spot is Fantasia, another "marmite film" as you say XD. I just feel that it captured the anarchic spirit of the books without going too literal and having its own, very special identity. HOWEVER... As much as I love some of his films, and while I can understand why some people like it... Tim Burton's Alice in "Underland" is my most hated film; it is an utter insult, a slap in the face to EVERYTHING Wonderland is about. As someone who's seen "Rapsittie Street Kids", "A Serbian Film", "Disaster Movie" and ALL THREE animated Titanic movies... No movie rouses my ire more than that one...
Hopefully at some point, you will watch and react to Disney's 1985 movie, Return to Oz (if you haven't already done so). Many Oz fans, myself included, consider this the closest movie, a sort of love-letter, to the L. Frank Baum vision of Oz and the original John Neill illustrations, although others are put off by how dark it may seem compared to the MGM version.
@@EdizAndBen I saw the original MGM movie in 1955, when I was five, and had nightmares for years about the cyclone, despite living in Long Island, outside New York City. But how many other nightmarish movies are also greatly appreciated? The books are available for free on Google books, and again, some with the original Edwardian Art Nouveau illustrations. Perhaps to appreciate Return, you might want to read the first half of Ozma of Oz and see how close this movie is to Baum's ideas - as a children's story, it is a very short, easy read. (The Wizard novel itself, is very blood-thirsty in sections. At one point, the tin woodsman chops the heads off a group of wolves sent by the witch, and in another, the scarecrow individually wrings the neck of a flock of crows sent to peck their eyes out.)
Amazing Reaction as always you guys! Also can you react An Exteremly Goofy Movie sense it's been over 3 years when you reacted to A Goofy Movie (These movies made me cry...)
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At last,one of my childhood favriotes thank you so much
Thank you!! Today, indeed, is my unbirthday!
yes❤
Well i wouldn’t say today is my un birthday my birthday is coming up like really soon like the next month or so.
Happy belated birthday 🎉
24:40 in the original book, only Alice's neck grew taller. That is why the bird called her a serpent. It was changed in the movie for some reason...
Conjures images of the Japanese rokurokubi...
Maybe the fact that Alice's whole body got taller, not just her neck, and the bird thought she was a serpent, made it more nonsensical. With the longer neck, there is some sense.
Emphasis on the word 'some'
12:01 In the book the Walrus and the Carpenter both eat the oysters.
At first Alice says she liked the Walrus best because he was at least a little sorry for them, but the Tweedles explained that he ate more than the Carpenter and that his holding the tides to his face wasn't so much because of tears as to hide how many he'd eaten. Alice changes her mind and says she liked the Carpenter best for not eating as many, but the Tweedles just told her that he'd eaten as many as he could get.
So she just decid3d 'They're both very disagreeable characters" and left it at that.
Fun fact: The voice actress of Alice is also the voice of Wendy Darling in Peter Pan. Her name was Kathryn Beaumont
One of the best adaptations of Lewis Carrol's story, also one of the best golden age Disney Films! Amazing how Kathryn Beaumont is still alive....man i so wish to meet her!
That would be amazing! What would you ask her??
@@EdizAndBen Has her experience with Walt Disney and her roles in 2 roles as Wendy and Alice, are the best time she has ever had? Also, what does she compared Disney then and today?
It's more as the best disney movie from the "Silver age"
Hallmark's Alice in Wonderland also does an amazing adaptational job.
Even just by watching your commentary, this film is a visual delight. Mary Blair's art direction was truly ahead of its time tbh.
This was almost Disney's first animated feature. In 1933 Walt wanted to do an animated/live action hybrid starring silent movie megastar Mary Pickford as Alice which would have been kind of crazy because she was already in her 40s at that point (she usually played much younger characters but this was still a stretch). He only didn't do it because he learned Paramount was making an Alice movie at the time. There are some pictures from Pickford's screen test though that are quite easy to find on google.
The Mad Hatter is, of course, "mad", as in insane, not angry. 10/6 is the price of the hat - 10 shillings, six pence. The dormouse is voiced by Jimmy McDonald, who's usual job was providing sound effects for Disney films. The alternative answer to the riddle - why is a raven like a writing desk? - is, because Edgar Allan Poe "wrote on" both.
I love your reaction Ediz!! Your looks can tell like “you’re kidding! It makes no sense”. I swear you guys are just as much as Disney fans as me though I will admit, I’m impressed you know more background info than me lol love you guys!!!
Another answer to the riddle "Why is a raven like a writing desk?":
"Because Poe wrote on both of them."
Think about it.
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The reason the bird said that Alice was a serpent is because in the original book her neck grew which makes sense why it would think that. Originally in the 30s-40s they were planning to make a darker adaptation more similar to the book and illustrations were done by David Hall that show the concept.
@@Miss_Monroe59 oh yeah I saw the storyboard and the art of it and let's just that the art not only it's a beautiful to watch, but also the Wonderland characters are CREEPY BLOOD THIRSTY MONSTERS!😨😬 (Seriously)
Funny that you bring up Flintstones, Verna Felton did voice Fred’s mother in law for her first few episodes before stepping down due to ill health
Finally y’all are continuing the series, I hope the silver age doesn’t take 2 years like the other eras but I understand editing and other content that needs to be put out. This is one of those movies I never really liked when I was younger but I love now
We hope it doesn't take 2 years toooooo 😬😬😬😬🤞🤞🤞
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This is personally one of my favorite movies, but I love silly, clever gimmicks. I liked it as a kid, but I didn’t really fall in love with it til I got older. It’s a true escape from reality. But the point of the movie is “thank goodness life isn’t really like this!” Alice learns throughout her dream to appreciate some of the order in life, and that’s something lots of kids need to learn (like the importance of sleep, eating vegetables and not just dessert, you have to be considerate of others, etc.). I also love the style of music and the animation art in this movie.
I love this movie and will constantly quote it like “Why no wonder you’re late this watch is exactly two days slow.” And “Never mind all that get to the part where I lose my temper.”
One complaint I do have is they stick to the book of doing the cliche I feel is audience insulting of “It was all a dream it never happened.”
You've managed to agree with both of us in one comment! 🤣 Congratulations 👏
It’s My Un-Birthday today as well!
One interesting fact I have you probably didn’t know where this was the first Disney film to have end credits and wouldn’t do again until The Black Cauldron in 1985.
Ed Wynn’s dialogue was all improvised during the Reference footage and when it was time for the recording of the scripted dialogue they found it wasn’t as funny as what he said so what is in the film is his improvised work.
While the film wasn’t a hit when it first came out it later became a hit in the 1960’s along with Fantasia especially on college campuses.
We were definitely surprised with the end credits! It was just the voice cast too which was interesting!
And that's crazy that it's your unbirthday too! What a small world!!
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30:50 - You would probably recognize Jerry Colonna as the comic often imitated and parodied in cartoons, saying "Ah, YES!...[adjective], isn't it??" 🥸
You probably also heard him narrate "Casey at the Bat" in Make Mine Music.
I'm not gonna lie, when Ben said at the beginning that Ediz wasn't gonna like this movie, I thought he was gonna surprise us and say he loves it 😂. I certainly didn't expect him to say that this was his least favorite of all of them so far 😂
You may recognize the voice of Jerry Colona because he also narrated Casey at the Bat in Make Mine Music
24:35 if I remember it correctly, someone please correct me if I’m wrong, the reason why the bird was calling “serpent” was in the original book when Alice at the mushroom room when she grew it was mostly her neck that shot up like a telescope, or snake like if you will.
Still my favorite Alice In Wonderland adaptation, very very beautiful film ♠️♥️♣️♦️
20:59 “I’m all for the cleave” 😂😂
*Ediz made me eyeroll like crazy throughout this whole video. He was already informed that Wonderland is a place where nothing makes sense, and yet he still doesn't even TRY to play along with it. Ugh.*
I agree. He was very stuck up during this for no reason. Jeez
Ediz should try watching the movie on acid. He'll probably enjoy it then.
@@MegaWicked89 It’s sad that some people lack media literacy to the point that they need to be on acid to appreciate the work 😭😭
40:00 I was like bro shut the heck up
What is your problem?
I feel like Ediz would enjoy the books more because as strange as they are, it actually has sense in a way that it makes you see things another way. Few examples:
The Caucus race was a way to get dry after listening to a “dry” lecture but also a race where everyone wins.
The watch at the mad tea party shows the day of month instead of the time so it really was 2 days slow.
The flowers talk because they’re planted on hard ground instead of a soft flowerbed so most flowers are asleep.
The shrinking and growing Alice goes through symbolises changes in growing up that Alice goes through an identity crisis. Eventually using the mushrooms she learns how to control the changes of size.
In the white rabbits’ house it’s actually the drink me bottle but there’s no “drink me” label so Alice ponders what may happen.
And that’s just a handful of examples so there’s a strange underlying logic to it
A few things to say:
One of my favorites, too. I also relate to Alice's wild imagination.
Here's a fact not necessarily about the movie, but about the author: Lewis Carroll is said to have been neurodivergent, having traits associated with people on the autism spectrum, such as logical thinking, preference for routine, and difficulties with social interaction.
About the scene with the oysters, you could argue that it's foreshadowing events later in the movie. What drove the oysters out of the sea? Curiosity. The result: They died. What drove Alice to follow the white rabbit? Curiosity. It's a classic case of "Curiosity killed the cat."
I love the face Ediz makes when he sees Alice was dreaming at 53:28. He's like, "Really?"
And, yes, it is my unbirthday.
1. It is because of Lewis Carroll that we call those flying insects, butterflies. In England, they used to be called "flutterbys" because that's what they did. Carroll's pun of "bread and butterflies" really caught on with the public.
2. Sadly, the Disney writers completely rewrote The Walrus and the Carpenter. The original poem is so much better.
3. Disney originally wanted to animate the original John Tenniel drawings but was talked out of it.
This is one of my favorite Disney movies too. I feel like we can all relate to Alice at some point, especially in online discussions. We've all felt like the only polite, sane person in a roomful of crazy, rude people. LOL. (I grew up loving the Lewis Carroll books too.)
A surprisingly obscure pun is when the doorknob tells Alice that her entering the door would be "simply impassible." Impassible actually means being unable to feel pain or suffering. Who knew?
OK, I didn't realize it until Ben's reaction to the Mad Hatter scene, but I like this movie. I'm sitting here laughing right along with him.
Sorry, Ediz! Your complaints are absolutely spot on - and yet.... :D
Eeehh, they're really not tho? Like complaining that a story designed to be nonsense is nonsense is kind of nonsense in and of itself. It's like complaining that Thai food is spicy or their is too much sand at the beach or something. The nonsense is the point. And the "it was all a dream" ending might feel overdone NOW but it wasn't then, and it works perfectly in the context of the movie, with all the lead up you'd need to go back to say oh yeah of course she was asleep the whole time. Now all of the nonsense that followed her wish for nonsense, that upset her practical nature actually makes perfect sense.
i used to be TERRIFIED of this movie as a child but then around the time i was like 9 i started to grow fond of "weirder" movies and books. i think because i started reading more fantasy. and then this movie quickly became a favorite of time. i was so excited when they made the live action version too. it's now a comfort movie for me, i put it on when i just need some good old fashioned nonsense to distract me from life lol
Our two Disney kings have returned! And with a super long reaction no less! This was probably one of your most interesting reactions so far, in that both your views were so polarizing. Even as a kid, I was always kind of indifferent to this movie. I never liked it as much as Ben, but I didn't hate it as much as Ediz. But now that I'm an adult, I can understand and appreciate what the Wonderland story is trying to say----that while it's great to have an active imagination, there IS a reason why we have rules and laws in place. And for this specific movie, it also doubles as a "be careful what you wish for" plot. Alice wanted to live in a world of nonsense, and when she gets what she asked for, she realizes how scary and dangerous a "nonsense world" would actually be. So yes---Ediz's frustration with this movie is totally understandable.....because now HE'S in Alice's shoes.
When you said that Alice in Wonderland aired on television, while Walt Disney was still alive, that made me so excited because recently whenever I've watched Lady and the Tramp I thought that no one who made that film or was around that time got to watch it with their pet dogs. But now I think they actually did get to watch the movie with their dogs?! That's so cool!
27:47 When they said 'mad' I kept thinking as a kid that they meant angry. Took me years before they meant 'mad' as in 'crazy'.
Alice in Wonderland was my favorite Disney film as a kid. Indeed, I was so big a fan that once I even invited a friend to "celebrate my unbirthday", and he obviously didn't get the joke as he came later that evening with a present expecting a normal birthday party 😆 I think my parents had to explain to his parents that I was just going through a phase, a silly one I would add.😅
Laughing so hard! I think Edzee really proved how pretty he is in this one. 🤭🤭🤭 Poor lad. Haven't seen him suffer quite like this before.😆 I believe if he could've, he'd have crawled out of his own skin to be anywhere else. 🤣 Bless. Ben, cutie cutie chaos curator, I too have a deep rooted affection for this film. Personally I suspect it stems from the whirlwind of confusion I was expected to accept with zero explanation. So weirdly when nothing makes sense, everything makes sense. I don't know, I think it makes more dynamic characters in adulthood. 🥰
44:57 It's not a complete card deck without a king, even if he's just for show.
I think I read a version of the story somewhere where every time the queen shouted "off with his/her/their head" he'd quickly whisper 'you are pardoned' to them as they were lead away and that the queen just doesn't keep track of these things, but I think that was in a rewrite.
I do think Alice in Wonderland is one of the movies that benefits from first watching at a very young age. Little kids tend to like how nonsensical and weird it is, whereas adults are likely to find it off-putting and pointless. Overall though I still really like the film.
We are all different, and different people prefer different kind of humor. For me, Monty Python is number 1 thanks to its "it doesn't have to make sense" -style of humor. A good example here: ruclips.net/video/B5H6AdKUthg/видео.html
Also old Looney Tunes had some weird stuff going on, as well as old Laurel & Hardy movies that often had absurd humor.
4:36 Alice just accepted her fate…there’s nothing else she could really do lol
49:00 YOU WON BEN!! EDIZ LAUGHED!! 😭
Yesssss
I always loved this movie when I was younger, havent watched it in a while, which made this reaction even better. Love you guys. Keep it up.
Getting into some real bangers now! This film is in one of my top ten Disney films. The last one of my ten you guys covered was Fantasia.
Haven't quite finished the video yet but man alice in wonderland was such a surprise for me when I watched it I surprisingly really liked the music and world had just a magical feel alice is also a surprisingly great protagonist in the movie her mannerism and way of speech are just so fun.
You guys uploading this reminded me to continue my own Disney watchtrough but getting myself to watch Oliver and company is a little more of a quest then I thought
8:37 I remember watching this movie on TV as a kid and tbh the only songs I remember are “I’m late” and “a very merry unbirthday” !
Edit: And I’m pretty sure I only remember A Very Merry Unbirthday bc of Todrick Hall’s Disney mashups bc I watched those a lot in high school
I love how the whole point of Alice in Wonderland is that...there IS no point.🤣
This is my favorite Disney Movie. I use Alice in Wonderland to name all the computers on my home network.
Today is my Unbirthday too!!🎉😊❤❤🎉🎉
No way!!!🎉 Here's an unbirthday gift from us: 🎁 ruclips.net/user/shortssYq08bp9tmg 🥳
21:05 I always thought of that iris as a haughty Victorian matron with a pigeon-breast blouse.
53:39
"Well Hare, why are you angry"
Hare: Well, everyone is angry and I just want to be popular.
Welcome back Ediz and Ben
A great reaction video to watch to cheer me up after not a great week for me.
Alice in wonderland is a classic for me and I love the music and songs.
Also I like Ediz’s reaction to Alice in Wonderland including the ending
One theory is Lewis carol might have been on drugs when he wrote the book which I think could be possible because the movie might be about Alice experiencing a drug trip does make you wonder
Overall a great reaction Ediz and Ben 🙂
OH MY GOSH DUDES IT'S MY UNBIRTHDAY
Yoy you guys are back! I've missed your videos! Ediz was actually right on when he said he recognized the March Hare- Jerry Colonna did the narration for Casey at Bat back in Make Mine Music, so you have heard him before! That said, I'm kind of right in the middle of the two of you - I like parts of this movie, but the whole is just too bizarre to connect with. The king cracks me up, and I love the Cheshire Cat, though!
After you guys watch all the movies in the whole Disney canon, are you going to rank them. I know you rank each individual era but I hope at the end we get a grand ranking
On our Ko-Fi page we have been ranking each film as we go!
But when we get to the end we will definitely be doing a big old ranking for sure!! Who knows how old we will all be by then 🤣
I love how Ediz is
"Yeah a walking talking rabbit with a coat and a watch, yeah makes sense"
But also
"Hot water up his sleeves ? Now that's just too weird, how does it work ?"
😂
Also it's my unbirthday today 😁
God bless Bill Thompson, the voice of such characters as The White Rabbit, the Dodo, Mr. Smee, King Hubert, and Uncle Waldo, and of course, the one and only Droopy.
28:55 Disney said “another one, thank you!”
This is one of my favorite Disney movies because of how wacky and nonsensical it is! For people who rely on their imagination and are chronically bored, this is the ultimate treat! It's such a creative fuel, I know it almost by heart! It was also really cool to learn about the behind the scenes, thank you for the info!! I found it interesting to see a reaction different from what I'm used to (since everyone I know likes the movie). Thank you for the video!
Ediz is done, and Ben is just smiling and mouthing all the lines 😂
Both Katheryn Beaumont and Mary Costa (Aurora/Briar Rose) are still alive. (At the time I’m commenting)
This is my top 5 “turn off your brain and watch” movies 😌
25:44 the song is fun! Shoutout to BMXers getting work lol
This movie gives off such an eerie almost creep feel to it, my parents definitely knew I was gonna turn out to be odd when It became my favorite Disney movie of all time, I’ve rewatched this movie more times then I can count.
15:50 Context is key!
Day, time, place, and appearance of the offerer are all essential influential factors.
Ediz needed to watch this high. That's my comment. Don't know if they do that in their everyday lives at all, but I stand by my comment hahaha!
Something about the 10/6, it's missing a bit. In the original book illustrations, the full tag says "In this style, 10/6". It's not that he bought the hat and forgot to remove the tag, it's that he's advertising that this is how much it would cost to commission him to make this style of hat. Also, given that time is money, 10/6 also refers to Mad Hatter Day, in which people are encouraged to act "in this style". Depending on which side of the pond you're on, 10/6 is either June 10th or October 6th.
Alice in Wonderland (1951) The Golden Age of Disney when Walt was still at the helm, And Starring Ed Wynn, Sterling Holloway, and Kathryn Beaumont as Alice. 1:12 That's Alice's Older Sister, Alice Liddle The girl Alice is based on had two older sisters. And Alice Liddel was a Brunette. 3:17 Ben your a Tuber, of course your crazy, 💯% Cray Cray, That's why people watch you. 5:55 Five Doors. 8:08 Alice in Wonderland: LOGIC, LOGIC, WE DON'T USE ANY LOGIC! 10:52 Months that don't have an R are to warm and a breeding Ground for Bacteria. in a 1980s version Bill Lands and breaks his tail off, here he's just gone. 18:33 No Tuber knows that, not even me, and I'm The 👑🤴🏽 of The lost and Forgotten. I hear that in the book her neck Grew long and that's why the bird thought she was a serpent, But Yeah, I didn't understand either until I heard that. 26:27 It's Adult Flower. 30:06 Jerry Colonna is March Hare, You can tell because March Hare looks like Jerry if Jerry were an Anthropomorphic Hare. 31:29 it's My Un-Birthday. 35:33 That's my answer in 1865 a Writing desk used a Quill which came from The Raven. 36:40 I know The "MUSTARD, LET'S DON'T BE SILLY! Lemon now that's different." is my favorite Scene. 38:02 Nailed it Ben, That's an awesome Fun Fact. The Black and White was to show how dark Smashing the Mad Watch was, And he only had 2 days to retirement. 38:59 Best ad of the New Millennium, I love the Bloopers. 43:14 An Hour in Wonderland is on my 📀, it was a Christmas Special, The Coke ads for an Hour in Wonderland were quite good, Much like your Funko ad. 46:41 A Chartreuse Hedgehog ball to go with her Chartreuse Flamingo Mallet. 53:30 Now it's a Lucid Dream. All a Dream from The Ripples in the water and White Rabbit, until she wakes up. I love this movie.
Ben has very similar humour to me. I was creeeeeasing at the Teenage Mutant Ninja Oysters🤣🤣
Your humour is clearly top tier 😏😏😏
I love this movie. I've always loved it, and the original stories. People get too caught up in "the plot" and whether or not it makes sense. Who cares if it makes sense? This is a children's movie, based on children's books. It doesn't have to be "War and Peace". Ediz's reaction to this reminds me a lot of other RUclips reactors watching "Monty Python" for the first time, specifically "Monty Python and the Holy Grail", and being like "Nope, too random, doesn't make sense, crappy ending, I don't like it". Just relax your brain and take it for what it *is*, which is a fun story about fun characters doing fun things. It's a little bit mad, yes, but it's supposed to be. That's what makes it great.
So for the Tweedles dance I feel like you can't do it in real life as is, but if you start off back to back and one person hops off the other persons back you could maybe revers it in editing and play with the frames to get the effect you want through editing. Y'all probably thought of that though just wanted to mention it in case. 🤘
Omg! You guys got sidetracked so easily! Love it!!
Ediz - I personally felt attacked when you said the story of "the walrus and the carpenter" was a waste of time and not relevant for the plot 😢
I mean, you're right, but it's still my favorite part of the movie 😂❤ "The time has come!"
Ben - 3:03 - 100% feel you on this one and can relate 👌🫧✨️
I'm not trying to be mean, but the ending may seem generic for our time, but we should keep in mind that tropes happen over time.❤ When I was a kid Alice in Wonderland was my favorite. It's hard to explain when you get older how bright and vivid and fun everything was. It's different now that I'm older. I remember when I first saw it was on TV at a babysitters house. I kept begging her to turn the channel back because she kept changing it.
It’s my aunt birthday too. I love Alice in Wonderland. I saw my grandma for the first time so every time I see it reminds me of her.
Unbirthday
For me, I like Johnny depp version for couple reasons: Johnny depp's mad hatter has magic while being less crazy than the animated one and alice can fight
8:09 I watched it all the time as kid, I loved it
I think the cat IS chesire. I think every character represents an irl character like wizard of oz. The rabbit is a random rabbit found on the grass, diamond is chesire, Tweedledum and Tweedledee are probably her brothers, Queen of hearts is her sister and the king is her dad or sisters bf mb
And chesire is diamond the cat
FINALLY we’ve made it to my all time fave disney film (goofy movie not included that’s between me and the gods)
I think this movie put me off mustard completely.
I hadn't eaten mustard before seeing this but had had everything else (special task when getting fish and chips, to ask for two slices of lemon), so I just alienated mustard and took the mad hatter seriously when he passed on mustard.
The card in the mad Hatter‘s hat is ten of six 10/6
I LOVEEE alice in wonderland!! one of my favorite disney movies
I all ready had a unbirthday last summer but thank you though ❤
How has ediz not seen Alice in wonderland!? It’s a Disney classic
I know you guys haven't gone to disneyland yet, but we have a teacup ride like disney World had one , but we have 2 rides actually, and it's a caterpillar ride to. But im from disneyland California but someday ill go different disney parks in different nations
Lewis Carrol said that Alice in Wonderland was an exercise in nonsense.
This is probably one of my least favorite Disney movies. I watched all the animated Disney films for a project a while back and when I got to the Walrus and the Carpenter part of this movie I was like, "Nope, never watching this again."
One of my absolute favorite movies!
... EVERYONE talks about Alice in Wonderland. What in the world. Is this cultural or generational? Alice was super popular, it had a massive resurgence throughout the late 90s and early 00s, at least in the US. And this is Disney Alice not just Alice in general, though Alice in Wonderland in general has always been mad popular. It is referenced in pop culture a lot because of its popularity and icon status, and was one of the first to grab a live action remake because it's the sort of thing creatives connect to create and had a really established audience.
Finally. One of my favorites 🎉
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I thought Ediz would ask you: Is the Mad Hatter "Fabulous"?
I must say, as much as I know it's an acquired taste... I ADORE this movie! It is my second favourite Disney movie of all time; the n.1 spot is Fantasia, another "marmite film" as you say XD. I just feel that it captured the anarchic spirit of the books without going too literal and having its own, very special identity.
HOWEVER... As much as I love some of his films, and while I can understand why some people like it... Tim Burton's Alice in "Underland" is my most hated film; it is an utter insult, a slap in the face to EVERYTHING Wonderland is about. As someone who's seen "Rapsittie Street Kids", "A Serbian Film", "Disaster Movie" and ALL THREE animated Titanic movies... No movie rouses my ire more than that one...
I am pretty sure Verna Felton is also the voice of the King of Hearts.
Sorry, no. The King was voiced by a character actor named Dink Trout.
Hopefully at some point, you will watch and react to Disney's 1985 movie, Return to Oz (if you haven't already done so). Many Oz fans, myself included, consider this the closest movie, a sort of love-letter, to the L. Frank Baum vision of Oz and the original John Neill illustrations, although others are put off by how dark it may seem compared to the MGM version.
I remember watching it on TV at a friend's house and then getting nightmares for weeks 😭
@@EdizAndBen I saw the original MGM movie in 1955, when I was five, and had nightmares for years about the cyclone, despite living in Long Island, outside New York City. But how many other nightmarish movies are also greatly appreciated?
The books are available for free on Google books, and again, some with the original Edwardian Art Nouveau illustrations. Perhaps to appreciate Return, you might want to read the first half of Ozma of Oz and see how close this movie is to Baum's ideas - as a children's story, it is a very short, easy read. (The Wizard novel itself, is very blood-thirsty in sections. At one point, the tin woodsman chops the heads off a group of wolves sent by the witch, and in another, the scarecrow individually wrings the neck of a flock of crows sent to peck their eyes out.)
My favourite pre Renaissance disney animated film
Amazing Reaction as always you guys! Also can you react An Exteremly Goofy Movie sense it's been over 3 years when you reacted to A Goofy Movie (These movies made me cry...)
35:12 accurate representation of my ADHD.
I through for a second that both of you are brothers
My favorite movie of ALL TIME!!
YAY!
I'm just gonna put some Disney smash bros. 4 Dlc character predictions here
Ryu - Mater
Cloud - Sora
Corrin - Mei
Bayonetta - The Wicked Witch
After all of the characters for Ryu, you picked a tow truck who does karate for just 1 scene, in the second movie?! Pick a different character!
@LiamWaalkes
Yeah deal with it
Can you react to Wizard of Oz, since Wicked is out?
Ediz and Ben you guys have to do a movie reaction to Moana 2 when it comes out!