Will Dawn Ultra Remove Your Wax/Sealant? Let's Test!
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- We're out testing the popular Dawn dish soap wax/sealant stripping claim, find out how Finish Kare Hi-Temp Paste Wax and RejeX Paint Sealant perform on the paint in the short term after washing with a high dilution of Dawn Ultra. Both of these are synthetic paint sealants that you can find for less than $20, in a future video I plan to put some waxes that are known to be less durable up to the same test. RejeX and FK1000P were applied 24 hours ago to the paint in this test.
Finish Kare Hi-Temp Paste Wax (FK1000P): amzn.to/2zn8vRr
RejeX Paint Sealant: amzn.to/3fbM9l9
UPDATE: In this followup video here, I performed an additional test for how Dawn Ultra 3X performs when washing two carnauba based waxes that have been on the paint for 2.5 months with very little effectiveness in being able to strip the protection from the paint: • Will Dawn Ultra Remove...
Ultimately, Dawn Ultra is not a dedicated wax and sealant stripper. Although it's possible to degrade protection over time, if the protection is fresh you will not see a significant impact at all. This is not an effective prepping method specifically to strip waxes and sealants prior to applying professional grade paint coatings, and should not be a substitute for abrasive polishing in order to prep paint effectively. Furthermore, Dawn's surfactants can resist rinsing on surfaces that are hydrophilic, making it seem like protection has been fully removed, when in reality it has only been temporarily masked.
Heating the water is not an effective method in increasing Dawn's stripping ability on fresh protectants. A dedicated wax and sealant remover, or panel wipe product is much more effective in knocking down fresh protectants compared to Dawn, like Klean Strip Prep-All.
Klean Strip Prep-All: amzn.to/37jdX4o
Finish Kare Hi-Temp Paste Wax Review: • Finish Kare 1000P Hi-T...
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#dawncarwash #hydrophobic
Here is my follow up video for Dawn Ultra on top of carnauba waxes: ruclips.net/video/HqqUzs3Ft4Y/видео.html Also an interesting test that I performed with various wax and grease removers on a fresh wax: ruclips.net/video/b7uqlDBFw6Y/видео.html
I've got a car that has had Xpel paint protection film installed and several applications of wax have been applied, as well. I'm looking for something that would safely remove all traces of wax, but not damage the paint protection film, so I can start with a clean slate and apply a ceramic coating to the film. Any recommendations on what to use, to completely strip the wax? I'd rather not use a polisher with compound. Thanks for any help that you may have.
Dawn works just fine for cutting down the finish to the clear coat. I have a five year old Tacoma that I've waxed three times. One wash with Dawn and the water stood everywhere. Now after a fresh coat of Turtle wax it shines like it did when it was new. Every time I washed it with the various car wash soaps, and I wash it alot, they have a wax in them that leaves a layer that builds up. In a couple of years or so I'll Dawn it again and start over.
That's wax. This is synthetic sealant.
An easy way to remove wax/sealant is to use shampoo with polish in it like Sonax Wash & Polish or Meguiar's Wash Plus
I'd be interested in a video that tests how many regular mitt washings with a standard car shampoo a typical synthetic paint sealant will survive before needing re-applied.
I work in a body shop there's 2 mils of clear coat on cars these days that's 2 coats of clear. You can sand and buff it a pretty decent amount of times before burning it so unless you buff your car alot don't worry about it
Any idea about how think the clear is on 80's Mercedes Benz'es? Got an 87 560sl trying to figure out how deep I can go. I think I read the clear is mixed into to paint..
Nice review and demonstration. I would not recommend using Dawn but if nothing else or out of your favorite Auto Wash Soap, use Dawn which is better than any other Dish Soap.
Hopefully, people should know the 3M acquired Meguiars and Turtle Wax some years ago. 3M has pushed and gone further in making Turtle Wax products better than Mequiars even though both Brands are owned by 3M. Chemical Guys (MIC_506 Microfiber Towels) and Adams (Adams Detail Spray) only have a couple products worth obtaining. The Rag Company offers very little. The problem with 303 Products is Longevity because most all of their products contain 80 percent or more Distilled Water and are considered to be Water-based. Mother's is not very good. Armor All is one of the worst. Car Guys and Groit don't offer much of anything.
I tested it after watching your video - where you used “maximum bond” sealants. I used Turtle Wax Hard Shell. The next day I used Dawn Ultra at about 4:1 water-to-soap. It removed the wax completely.
4:1 is a pretty heavy dilution ratio. Any decent wax or sealant should easily be able to resist Dawn, especially in the short term. The point of this is to show that Dawn should not be used as a dedicated wax/sealant stripper, other products are much better at doing this, without leaving behind heavy masking surfactants like Dawn leaves behind.
WaxMode How about Dawn for cleaning wheels without harsh chemicals ? I like it as a no-touch wash that I can repeat for several days until wheels are clean.
@@WaxMode Then what will work that's inexpensive?
@@johnwagner4559 nothing but a lot of companies will claim their snake oil will do the job. I call bs on all of them.
@@WaxMode what do you mean by heavy masking surfactants?
Myth busted. People who think that dish washing soap removes anything dont know a thing about detailing. To me you have proved that. Polishing is the only way to fully remove any LSP and start fresh.
Good video.
Only dawn will de grease. Any other dish soap fucking pales in comparison to the power of dawn. If you want to get rid of old wax or degrease the car, use dawn. Just use warm water.
Very good video it answers questions we have on Dawn's stripping ability
ive noticed on my car that while dawn wont strip off a high quality wax/sealant that was properly applied, it wont last nearly as long as advertised if you regularly use dish soap to wash. but yeah deff agree that it wont work as a stipping product
Good simple video but great content!... I'm not sure 205 would cause any detrimental effects to the thickness of the clear coat?... Have you used a depth gauge to the see difference if any?... Might be best to measure in microns rather than MM too as the smallest different would get noticed...
Thanks! I haven't kept exact track of how many polishing cycles I've performed on the hood, well over 100+ and I've cut through about 20 microns of clear. Not all of this was with M205, but mostly all of them light finishing polishes. This is soft sticky Honda clear as well for reference.
Dawn is more for grease and grime. I always used dawn to remove wax and it doesnt do anything. I'm using Chemical Guys Clean slate. Says it removes wax and sealents with just a wash.
Fantastic information. Please keep the videos coming.
I use alot of detailing spray and TW seal and shine and I want to find a cheap but effective way to strip all that off so I can use some of that high temp wax and a good sealant. Something like Dawn but will work better. Any suggestions? Thanks!
Hey John, I'm working on running more tests with Seal N Shine against their new Hybrid Solutions Ceramic Spray Coating to find a cost effective remover. Right now, Super Clean, Optimum Power Clean, and Poorboy's World Strip Down are certainly effective against the new Ceramic Spray Coating. Super Clean being your more cost effective product, and Optimum and Poorboy's being your more expensive offerings. However, Super Clean doesn't recommend it for use on direct paint, whereas Optimum and Poorboy's are paint friendly. I'll have more videos coming up in the future.
@@WaxMode I like the new ceramic spray coating. Easier to work with then s&s.
@@WaxMode are you using Power Clean full strength for that? Or is the 3:1 dilution still effective?
How long does the Rejex usually last on the paint for you under normal driving conditions?
Rejex definitely lasts as good as the power sealants (Power Lock, Deep Gloss Paint Sealant, Wet Diamond), slightly stronger water behavior over the months, I took it off around the 5-6 month mark to test coatings. The others are easier/smoother to apply and remove than Rejex. It's a good sealant.
Awesome video, very informative, and myth busted.
the wax and sealants that you used must be so damn durable wow
Good video, thanks. Just bought a brand new untouched GMC. Washed with sunlight dish detergent and applied rejex. What do you recommend to wash the vehicle that won't strip the rejex polymer?
Can anything remove a 303 stain? Its faded out alot but I can still see a faded effect on the hood. I had half a car bra on there for a week and it rained and I had also sprayed some 303 on the car bra for protection but now it looks a muddled faded like. I dont know what how else to describe it.
hey waxmode I got a question I bought meguiars black wax but it feels like it has grain in it. like sand. will that mess up my paint or is that normal?
Black Wax has some abrasives in the formula - it's an all-in-one polish/wax, but I don't have a tube of it to feel the consistency so I'm not sure if what you're feeling is normal. Test on a small area of the door jambs to see how it turns out.
Nice video, what about after multiple washes?
That's why you have to at least polish before applying anything if you want to see the true characteristics and performance of a given product
So was there ever a long term test with dawn? I imagine if you dilute dawn enough then it should be no more abrasive than any other car specific soap?
crazy i been buying the gallons of the other guys stuff for years could saved so much money over time.
Excellent video. May I suggest you to try for stripping wax BlueMagic Road Tar & Bug Gel, or Stoner Tarminator, they supposed to work better than Dawn, again excellent video
So if Dawn doesnt work well on removing wax, why not use it as a car wash soap?
It will not have the lubricity levels of modern car soaps. High cleaning ability with not enough lubricity can lead to finer swirls and scratches. Lubricity is key in safely removing the dirt as you glide the mitt across.
I used to use heavy duty insulator wax before I switched to using CarPro Hydro2. It is so much quicker to just spray that on the car and it works even better.
Hydro2 is a great spray and rinse, I have loved it for sealing wheels especially.
@@WaxMode Ever since I started using stuff like that I never looked back at my shelf full of waxes. I must have 10 different waxes that I no longer use. I find that their foam for sprayers works well too. When I use the foam I use it in a similar way to the Hydro2. I mix some into a 1 quart sprayer and spray the whole car then rinse, My sprayer is not a high pressure one and does not foam the soap. I mostly bought the foam because you get more applications out of it and I get the same results. I have tried Permanon Platinum and might use it again. That one is made in Germany and I like that especially for my Passat. I might use the Permanon next time I see the water beading fade.
This why i prefer conditioners like TAP serum over wax, i don't want to deal with removal or the degradation of it.
Good afternoon man , which glass sealant you recomend ? Cause I live in a town with a lot of pollution and my glass becomes yellowish and full of contaminants , thanks !
Check out Optimum Opti-Glass. This is an excellent glass coating, you should see over a year of durability and it won't cause wiper skipping on the front windshield.
Just trying my luck here but would you know how to remove industrial paint spots from a vehicle ?
Very good, thanks for taking this myth down :)
What do you for the plastic trim at the top of the hood? Always beads great in all your videos.
Thanks! The beading on the trim is a result of a mash up of a bunch of different spray on maintenance products that I use as a drying aid prior to polishing the test sections off. Underneath that beading is some actual trim products I've been testing out. The left side facing the car is Turtle Wax Jet Black Endura-Shine Trim Coating, it darkens nicely and it's VERY durable. In fact, I'm not sure exactly how I'm going to get it off if I wanted to test another product on that side of the trim. You're not going to get decent beading out of this product alone, so that continued use of spray waxes/sealants over top of the trim is creating a nice beading effect. If you want to try it out I would really advise testing a small section first to see if you like the finish it produces before going around the whole trim.
On the other side is Wolfgang Exterior Trim Sealant, and this produces a more natural protectant look as opposed to a darkening effect like the Turtle Wax. Outstanding for trim in decent condition that you want to seal, it's durable as well and you're going to get great water beading from the sealant alone.
what about chemical cleaners (abrasive or nonabrasive) or nonabrasive polishes e.g p21s, wolfgang, pinnacle, blackfire cleansers, prima amigo, carpro eraser, gg or mckee's or gyeon or anyother paint prep??? which of them removes sealants or atleast waxes?? and how do you keep the clearcoat after using everytime the m205 to test new product provided hondas have very soft paints???
Many of the paint cleansers will prep the paint nicely and take care of what's on the paint. The problem for product testing is some of them leave behind their own water signatures compared to abrasives, beading water more or less aggressively than others, makes it hard to tell at what point we're fully removing the previous wax and what exactly is the cleanser leaving on the surface of the paint itself to have this effect?
Ultimately, paint cleansers and glazes are a great prepping options for those who like to wax frequently and I would personally go this route as they clear up the hard water feeling that can quickly rob the paint of slickness after weekly washes for those who are forced to wash with hard water out of the hose. I would often use them to make the process of applying different paint waxes much more enjoyable on a super smooth glazed or cleansed surface. Your panel wipe products like Eraser, Gyeon Prep, or diluted IPA mixes will do very little on fresh products to remove them.
I will eventually have a video with how different paint cleansers and glazes behave with cured coatings so we can see just to what extent they're able to really remove the coating. With M205, the clearcoat is certainly being shaved down especially at the rate I'm working on the paint. But as a regular enthusiast, you will be able to finish polish many many times without worrying about paint thickness unless you or someone has significantly compounded the paint prior to your maintenance polishes. This paint I have never used a heavy abrasive on it, so I preserved the paint thickness to the fullest before I began extensive testing.
Great video, I've always been curious how dawn does. Thats interesting that you said the suds were good, I would've thought it would be the opposite since it's not designed as a car soap. What is your method for polishing? Like what machine/pads, unless you do it by hand.
Yeah 3oz for 2.5 gallons was definitely overkill, this Ultra formula is pretty concentrated stuff. For polishing I've been running Buff and Shine pads and I've got a handful of different polishers. I use a Makita 9227c or Dewalt 849x for compounding/heavy polishing and I finish out with the Griot's dual action polisher or Porter Cable 7424. Recently grabbed the latest version of the Harbor Freight dual action polisher to see how it fares against the Griot's. M205 and M100 I use as my polishing liquids, they're an excellent value for the performance. To prep this paint before testing new products I throw a black Buff and Shine pad on the Griot's polisher and do a few light passes with M205.
Would you recommend stacking a wax on top of a sealant?
yes, carnauba
On top of the paint sealant can you apply wax to?
Bro please help me😭 I used glass cleaner on my new car paint and plastic trims 2 times will it remove the wax or fade the plastic trim? Please tell it will be highly helpful🙏
Windex with ammonia? Some non-ammonia based glass cleaners you can basically use as a prep spray on paint after polishing, but I would just use the products as intended. Reapply the wax and avoid the trim.
Have you ever heard or tried a product from "Jack car care" waterless wash product?
Dawn stripes carnauba wax..at least it has for me....making me want to test it again!!..should not remove a good sealant...great videos!
Nonsense. It puts a film over wax and gives the illusion of no protection initially.
Yea It Does remove it stupid smh
@@toyonation827 lol
NEED HELP PLS
i just painted my truck... a weeks a go ...i used dulipcolor paint shop.....well its junk.....i used 6 qt of clear....on a small nissan pick up 95 model.....it needed more clear...buy its a work truck and did not wanna sped more money or time on junk paint....so....i wet sanded it and buffed it....but i got a lot of polish in it still ...and it wont come off....the clear it is ruff about like a 800 grit sand paper...i buffed for over 12 hours ...do u know how to get it out......there are no vids on it....thanks
Trying to finish out 800 grit sanding marks is too rough for the compound/polish to handle, you need to finish out the surface to a finer grade to get better results. Try washing with Dawn to dissolve the polishing residue left behind.
After spraying the clear, it's a good idea to give it a few days to cure and harden before sanding, I would sand at 1500 grit and follow up with 2000+ and then go with the compound/polish with a polisher. If you notice you're not leveling it out fast enough with 1500, you can move to a heavier grit but just know that you're balancing how level you want the paint to look with how much clearcoat will remain after everything is done. Also, if you only sprayed a thin amount of clear on the surface, that 800 grit may have cut through too much clear and you may have to respray it.
Proctor and Gamble does not recommend using dishsoap? Manufacturer of specialized overpriced car car products does not recommend using cheap soap? What a surprise. Tip: Don't ask the pharama company that makes your overpriced prescription medicine if there is a cheap non prescription replacement for it, they will not give you good advice, because they have what is called "conflict of interest"
Proline makes more than one sponge. Please provide exact name or Lowes item number. Brilliant, I hate using all that power to dry wash mit in the dryer.
Looks like they're in a two pack now, Item #469322, Model # K-56P, www.lowes.com/pd/ProLine-Polyurethane-Sponge/50005098
Let me know if you like them or not! It's been a while since I pulled them out, they'll definitely wear down some over time, usually they'll get softer as you break them in, but the low maintenance is great.
I will pick a pack and try them. Thanks for the info.
Actually, I'm calling on you to retest Dawn. Dawn Ultra and Dawn original are two entirely different products. Dawn ultra has bleaches and brighteners in it. This is why it's not used it oil spill situations to clean off animals. 2x concentrated DOES NOT MEAN it's double Dawn. Please redo the test with ordinary Dawn and show us the results. Maybe it's the same, maybe it's better, we won't know until you do the test!
Also Meguiar's discontinued the Meguiar's Car Wash Plus product (G25024), so now what do you use?
I still continue to prep all of my tests with abrasives and the polisher in order to provide a clean slate. With Meguiar's Wash Plus, I needed heavy pressure and multiple applications when applied directly to my wash media in order to really knock the LSP's down, this heavier pressure caused marring in pretty much every test I ran with it. I use Klean Strip Prep-All as a pre- and post-polish panel wipe which is much more effective compared to any "strip wash" style soap on the market, although some LSP's can still be resistant against it.
Do they even still sell the non-Ultra formula of Dawn? I haven't seen it over the counter nor on their website. Most of the bottles of the Ultra line have the ducks right on the front. I picked up Dawn Ultra Heavy Duty recently to run some tests.
So what does remove wax and sealants besides polishing? I would love to see an IPA vs paint prep products. Also chemical guy citrus wash and gloss claims at a higher dilution to strip wax. I don't think it does but I would really like to see your opinion.
palindrome414 it does. I have that chemical. I mostly use it on wheels and before I wax (remove everything for a fresh canvas for new wax). I once did a quicky on a small section on my trunk. was a bad move. left trails of wax build up on the rear bumper.
Griots Paint Prep will remove any wax or sealant. It works awesome!
palindrome414 brake fluid, mineral spirits, sand paper, jealous wife
@@FABAutomotiveDetailing So will Vehicle boat wash mixed with dawn dish soap.
Detergents erode the clear coat over time which is why its a good I deal to look into into non-forming protectants.
LOL
@chaotic/Silence - Check out my video here for the hot water Dawn test against the Griot's waxes: ruclips.net/video/HqqUzs3Ft4Y/видео.html
In the short term, Dawn has been very ineffective in wax/sealant removal regardless of the temperature of the water involved. I've seen Scott's video and this is why I made the follow up test. If you're dealing with a low surface tension wax/sealant, Dawn may produce a hydrophilic sheet but this can be because of the surfactants which are quite heavy from Dawn.
Looking for a safe economical way to strip off Nu finish before I apply The Last Coat Ceramic sealant.
I’ve been using Klean Strip Prep-All as a panel wipe with good results. It’s not guaranteed to strip 100% on the first pass for some products but it’s infinitely more effective that Dawn and I like it compared to other comparable solvent based wax and grease removers.
do you think using dawn as a wheels cleaner could be fine ? I mean I don't have chrome wheel or anything just regular 16 inch wheels on my 2018 golf lol
It'll be fine a . And you can alsospray some fast finish by mcguire's and use it to protected and to keep down brake dust.
You can layer any product over any other product. It is a myth that that products aren't compatible.
I've put wax over sealant and sealant over wax. The paint appears exactly the same.
I've put glaze over wax and under wax in multiple layers.
The paint always looks the same.
Waxes, sealants and glazes are so incredibly thin it is impossible to get a "build up".
No need ever to remove a product to place another, just spread it on.
Dan Henderso
You obviously know nothing about auto detailing
Will Dawn soap dull black paint and plastic on a motorcycle ? Not sure what soap to use
Use any regular car wash style soap found over the counter in the auto section to wash your bike. Dawn can also be used as a soap, use an ounce per few gallons of water and you won’t dull the finish unless it’s already dull. Continued use of Dawn as your main soap has been said to dry out plastic or rubber trim over time, but occasional usage has never caused any visible damage in my experience. Also for a bike, I recommend you look into rinseless wash soaps like Optimum No Rinse, or Griot’s Brilliant Finish Rinseless Wash, McKee’s 37 N-914, or Wolfgang Uber Rinseless. This method is extremely effective and convenient especially for motorcycle maintenance cleaning/washing, safer than waterless washing.
@@WaxMode Thank you 🧼
what about simply green degreaser? or all purpose cleaner
Josh H wheel brightener will probably remove it along with tar and iron
Can you try this with Meguar's Wash Plus? It's a car wash soap that has abrasives in it.
Yes I have been doing testing with Wash Plus, I will come out with a video in the future. The problem with Wash Plus is I have been seeing marring on the soft paint of this blue test car when applying it directly onto the wash mitt (chenille microfiber mitt). Check out my Fusso Coat video where I did a small showcase of its performance.
ProLine Polyurethane Sponge to wash the car? Is it really that good?
They’re great sponges, cheap and effective, low maintenance, but smaller. I prefer the microfiber chenille style mitts because they’re larger and I don’t have to dunk as often as with the sponge when I’m washing the entire paint. But the ProLine sponge is not one that deserves all the hate that other sponges get.
@@WaxMode Ok thanks. I think I will give them a try. I'm use a micro fiber mitt, it's a cheap one from China that doesn't really do a good job.
The last wax I put on my car attracts all kinds of dust and dirt just sitting still how do I get it off
Rejex seems to attract the dust as well
what is the best way to remove a small area of wax so I can apply a 3m tape to install my bug shield on my truck
081734744 Grab some Meguiar's Ultimate Polish and an applicator pad, you can go over that section by hand. Remove with a clean microfiber and then spray and wipe the area with 15% dilution of common isopropyl alcohol to water mix.
Thanks
Would like to see you test ISP 50/50 if possible. That's another product recommended by countless detailers everywhere to prep surface prior to wax/sealant application.
50/50 IPA is used to remove polishing oils after polishing and prepare the surface for sealing and or waxing. It wont remove old layers of wax.
A&J not only that, but if people paid attention at all, he actually used isp on a section of the hood and it did nothing to the sealant.
He also said dawn will work different on a wax vs a sealant
Wait, you said proctor and gam dont recommend for cars?
How come DAWN has commercials where they say IT CAN BE used for automotive wheels?
Previously on their website, one of the FAQ questions listed: "Can I use Dawn to clean things other than dishes?"
[Dawn is so effective in cutting grease on dishes that over the years, consumers have used Dawn on other greasy messes around their homes, from cleaning kitchen messes like grease build up on the stove range hood to oily spots in the garage. Dawn is not recommended for window cleaning, car washing, body wash or washing hair.]
So this is what I was referencing when I made the statement. In their current FAQ, they do list wheels as safe to clean with Dawn.
Hi, can i use this on glass tk remove wax?
Maybe Dawn dish detergent back when it still contained phosphorus, not so much anymore.
Nice! I thought dish washer can remove the Wax. So will the Meguiar's Ultimate Polish can remove the wax?
Absolutely, the abrasives in Ultimate Polish do a great job at removing your wax/sealant layer.
i use dawn to remove wax before i paint A CAR, it works very well, no fisheyes at all.
it doesnt stip just looks like it
This hurt me bad watching dish soap make contact with the car.
you had eraser....I want to know if Eraser would take away the product.
Eraser did not remove these two sealants from the paint. But it's great at removing the polishing oils/residuals after you use a finishing polish!
interesting. so applying wax should last quite some time. like a month at least?
Depends on where you live the type of temperature of the weather gets to do you park it or keep it in the garage 2 to 3 months And it also depends on what type of wax you use because some are better than others.
so you removed the the wax you added with a polisher?
For my tests, yes. Using a polisher with an abrasive polish is the answer to remove previous waxes and sealants.
@@WaxMode woaaah, awesome. I asked because I had a hard time understanding what was happening in the video.
Use baking soda mixed with lemon juice to remove wax .
Centrious mijkey acid is better
Try some Purple Power and see if it removes the sealant.
Also try the Platinum 4x Dawn.
If you're trying to remove a FRESH layer of hybrid wax or synthetic sealant less than a day after with dish soap then of course it won't work! These waxes are meant to protect your car from months of exposure to UV, rain, snow, salt, mud, fallout etc (and even something as strong as dish soap). The protection degrades over time and when it has degraded, THEN it is susceptible to removal using dish soap. All you're showing is that your waxes are working properly, not that dish soap doesn't work to remove degraded old waxes/sealants. Wait 30-60 days and then try dawn, it'll work for sure.
In my follow up video I put Dawn against the Griot’s paste waxes after a 2.5 month test session with unconvincing results. ruclips.net/video/HqqUzs3Ft4Y/видео.html
I’d say most people familiar with Dawn’s recommended use as a strip wash are unaware that it isn’t effective in the short term at all against a wide variety of products. They only hear to use Dawn to strip clean the surface and that’s it. In my testing, Dawn is not an effective wax stripper period, and should not be used with the intent of removing any LSP from the paint, no matter how long it has been on the surface.
wow awesome video man thank you
Great video!
And have youtried mequiars wash plus ?
Yes I’ve worked with Wash Plus a lot. The problem with this strip soap, is in order to take off fresh products you need to use it heavy with strong pressure. This has left behind light, but significant marring in the process, and it usually takes two heavy applications applied directly to the wash mitt without much water on the paint to really knock down products. At the end, it’s more effective to just polish the paint at this point with a polisher and abrasive because you’re not leaving marring behind that needs to be cleaned up.
@@WaxMode that makes more sense. I onderstand Thanks ! For sharing
how long does a paint last without having a sealant on it ?
That depends on a lot of factors, mainly how well the paint was prepped before spraying, the quality of the basecoat and topcoat (clear), and your environment. Without a sealant if you're here in Florida, this sun is going to weather the paint fairly quickly and this Honda had a few years of no protection or wash maintenance and the paint was really cloudy. Minimal swirls because it was rarely ever washed, but really lacking that glossy finish and this was caused by the sun and UV rays beating down on it constantly. Now I've been cycling test spots for years with various products and it's maintained its gloss really well.
I've seen many 2010-2013 cars here with fully rusted roof/hood/trunk areas due to the paint being practically baked off of the surface and it never being maintained. Regular maintenance and protection would easily prevent this from happening.
WaxMode I did this without thinking my car squeeks when its wet and I rub it so ill be going to buy paint sealant soon
Myth was busted long time ago. Dawn soap has surfactants to sheet water off as you don't want water spots when you wash your dishes and glass cups.
This is a good point; I wonder how the water behavior would be if he had applied Dawn after using M105.
Or if he used warm water.
Your friend that lives in Dallas with his big mouth does not like your test because you just put down the wax and it is new. He says that if it was old wax then the Dawn would strip it. Well I can tell you that any old wax falls off of a car because that is what wax does. If you wash your car a lot then you wax your car a lot. I could have told you that 40 years ago.
I can wash the paint 30 consecutive times with hot tap water using a 1oz to 1 gallon dilution of Dawn Ultra 3X and still not tackle through a fresh carnauba wax layer, I did this using Griot’s Best of Show Paste and Premium Carnauba Wax in my follow up video. Even at 2.5 months old, Dawn wasn’t able to tackle through the waxes. If the product is not effective in the short term at knocking down protectants, then it should not be used as a dedicated wax/sealant stripper, that’s my perspective on the Dawn topic.
Dawn, like any high concentrated surfactant cleaner, is able to greatly impact any low surface tension protectant, had I run the same test on top of DPC Armor compared to the Griot’s carnauba waxes, the viewer would come to a conclusion that Armor is the less durable protectant by a longshot because Dawn causes Armor to sheet flatter much faster. But the absence of strong water repellency doesn’t mean a product has been stripped from the surface, rather it can potentially be masked by surfactants that are not easy to completely rinse off from these products that aren’t very hydrophobic to begin with, like Armor.
You have Exo on this car as base coat? That explains. Dawn definitely wont shift cured sio2
No, the paint during this test was polished prior to applying Rejex and FK1000P.
How would it work on old wax/sealant?
On older wax/sealants it may be more effective. But in that case I’m likely to still prep the paint through mechanical decon (clay) followed up with a polisher, and those will tackle through any remaining remnants of the protection.
The question everyone needs to be asking, is why are they specifically trying to remove their protectants outside of the decon and polishing process? If the protection is fresh then there are clearly better options compared to Dawn soap, and if they are old then the paint likely needs a mechanical decon/polishing anyways.
@@WaxMode ah yeah that's a good point. My problem is that I mistakenly put synthetic was over my ceramic coating. Doh!
So apparently that's not a good idea so I've been looking for the best way to remove it. 😖
how much was your water bill after this video? what ever you save It on products you spend it on water
Kuvanito Green water is pretty cheap in most places; I mean the guy isn’t pouring bottled water on his car. That goes for both city and well water. In Florida, electric bills for trying to keep the 90-100+ heat out of your home is much more of a concern than a few gallons of water out of a hose. Most women I know use more water to shower than he used in this video, literally an hour or until all the hot water is gone.
I’ve never heard anyone complain about a water bill unless they had a break in the line or something else; even people who water their lawns and landscaping. Such a non issue in most places.
Use the 2 bucket method
I like to use the 17 bucket method
Wax doesn't bond to the clear coat, it sits on top of it. Bonding would require etching mechanically or chemically.
waxes mechanaicaly bond
If you would have used hot water, the dawn could have worked in a couple of washings. I would not recommend using Dawn , though many Pro Detailer's do still use it. Good Job , good Infor. Thanks
Just don't wash the car with it every time.
Ahh the myth is finished 😂
Try it with hot water..
Luis X - boiling will move any wax.
Didnt mean scalding but somewhere between warm and hot w the dawn liquid should remove the wax.
A higher concentration used on a wax ( not sealant ) even if not warm water DOES remove all wax. Back-in-the-day I used a hard paste and got so tired I feel asleep instead of removing it. A few hours later it wouldn’t buff-off. I used a very high concentration of dawn at about 100 degree water and it stripped that wax right off. And that wasn’t Ultra which wasn’t available then.
@@1badhaircut I've run follow up tests with 3X Dawn Ultra on the Griot's carnauba paste waxes with hot water with no luck in doing much of anything to the waxes.
Thanks for the video
This is not really a good explanation...Dawn will most definitely remove an LSP after a few washes especially when used with hot water...it’s a fresh coat so it would probably take about 6-10 washes...
M Jacobs - Not against these products. You could wash and rinse with Dawn for hours and hours against these in the short term and you will get absolutely no where. I’ve done further testing with Dawn, including multiple washes with hot water against the Griot’s Carnauba waxes in my follow up video here: ruclips.net/video/HqqUzs3Ft4Y/видео.html
what about Chemical guys clean slate shampo
Ordered it last week, it will be here tomorrow!
nice thanks :)
You could compare CG Clean Slate to CG Citrus w&g if you have any. Both are suppose to remove LSP.
Instead of polishing with meguiers why don't you try a clay bar and preserve you clear coat
This paint was hammered by permanent love bug etching by the time I started working on it. So it was a great candidate for some heavy testing. The paint is also pretty soft, the clay actually causes some light marring that I would want to clean up with a light polish. You also have some clay bars that advertise that they won't remove the wax layer, so with an abrasive I get to further reassure my viewers that the paint has been well prepped with a universally agreed method of wax/sealant removal before I test new products.
So what can remove wax ?
physical erosion (weather&time or light abrasive compounds such as m205)
Griot's Garage paint prep...the best juice to remove old and new wax on the car
itsyurb0ylayy4 Isopropyl alcohol
I used Meguiars liquid wax and it sucks!
I use hot vinegar and dawn been using it for 35 years with no problems and it's cheap as fuck
I use Simple Green in warm water.
Oh god the sponge
If Dawn can dissolve rendered cold beef fat and beeswax, it sure as hell can dissolve carnuba wax.
We've tried to dissolve real carnauba flakes in many solvents much tougher than Dawn with no luck. I've done the Dawn test on a few Griot's carnauba waxes as a follow up to this video.
Carnuba melts at 82 degrees. Therefore boiling water and dish soap will remove it. Simple weather removes it in a few months, strong soap and hotter than wax melting point water will do the same.
WaxMode - a flake is many thousand times thicker than a melted layer on a car
82 Celsius, if I have to boil water to get Dawn to work then I’d rather use an alternative product/method to attempt removal.
Wow! A RUclips presenter with basic grammar capability! Nice work!
It is a proper nightmare to remove wax.
No spirit , no alcohol removes wax as well
somethings up here, watch the hood at 3:13 3:14 looks like an edit point to me
This is a rendering glitch when uploading to RUclips, see my Ultimate Wash & Wax video at 4:14, some videos I’ve scrapped because it was distorted so bad: ruclips.net/video/b_wb6yVzvGE/видео.html
Another great video ............. as always :-)
very intresting
You sound like Isaiah Saldivar
Man how much is your water bill haha.
Dawn
Use brake fluid in a simple spray bottle from your local dollar store for removing wax
Flavio Medeiros or mineral spirits or sand paper or a jealous girlfriend
Surfactants in washing up liquids are soluble and rinse away And BTW uncoated paint clearcoat still resists water, by design. More so when it's polished and smooth. That's its purpose. This video is disingenuous and appears deliberately misleading.
What in this video would lead you to believe that I’m being deliberately misleading? A strip wash soap that removes LSP’s would be immensely more beneficial to my testing if they were convincing. Look at the behavior of uncoated paint in this video towards the end directly after the first wash. This doesn’t look like much of a resistance to water.
If you scrub enough even faster on corners dawn will remove the paint on your car
Flochness I feel bad for that guy’s car ... and his Vienna sausage if he is rough enough to remove paint with soapy water ... ffs lol