Was about to say the same thing. And it's very reasonably priced at $45. However you can't switch between semi and full auto when it's installed (but installation is topless and takes less than a minute).
@@thingsthathappentojeff5862 I've not actually tried it yet. I think I'll order one before the summer though. Do you think a stiffer trigger spring would be nice with it to help a bit with the return?
@@Isaac_L.. I can see that helping with assisting with semi auto trigger pull with the valve installed because it's very sensitive. So that extra resistance should help. I personally use the fang trigger from inception design to shorten my trigger pull.
My first marker ever was a TMC elite, I knew about paintball already but it was more like a regular xtremme sport as skydiving or skateboard becuase I saw videos about speed tournaments, but when I discovered magfed I realized that I had to try it, once I played it I got addicted. After that I had a T15 with full auto Then an A5 magfed with response trigger, a TCR , another Tmc , a tipx, but at the end I stayed with my MG100 🥰 I been very happy these 2.5 years since I started to play. 🤗
Yeah its bad, like pokemon or something you just gotta have me all at some point for some reason but for the most part nowadays most everything is usable, just good at something else lol Happy you are enjoying it!!
Did the research my self and bought my fist magfed marker two months ago. What i concluded from reading and watching review was more or less exactly what you said, so this could have saved me alot of time good jobb.
Thanks!! Yeah i figured 3 are good choices regardless, not to say there arent others that are just as good these are just what i have a decent amount of time with.
Just watched this, great intro to markers! Reg. The cf20, when you wind it up and put the PBs in, you can have the cap close at the top just like the dam mags without releasing the spring, creating tension on the PBs. So they can lay in there without the push of the spring until you load them into your marker 👍😁
Stormer elite is my marker and I love it the only issue is no option for a sling and the barrel shroud thing is one of one so there’s no changing it it’s already getting loose
I own a t15 I built it into a dmr and I love it you do have tinker with it alot and I own the emf100 as my back up and I love it , it does not give any problems I can just play paintball now the t15 is turning into my back up for new players I would hands down recommend the emf100
Seems like t15s are 50/50, once I swapped to a new barrel I haven’t had any issues since. But I know a couple guys that constantly have issues. I’d say the emf100 is the better marker for sure but a full auto t15 is just to much fun!!
It's for sure a more expensive option for the emf. But you just cannot beat the simplicity. Get an ID100 upper from inception designs. Then you can run a real steel handguard and stock and can then run a remote line. Boom. Milsim achieved. At that point if someone is going to nitpick about the mags you can tell them to eff off. They even have ak body kits for the emf
true true, the EMF is popular for a reason but in my head the comparison of stock versions of each. There are some super cool EMF builds are there and id say more diversity in the styles you can achieve with it vs the T15. I love the ID100 upper but man thats a price tag. One of us got one recently and its very cool.
@@doccthehunter ya just switched from 468 to t-15. I know longer could take the velocity adjustment on the 468. But loving the t-15. Also the mcs box mag does work on the t-15. Been using it. DEFCON video was actually very misleading. Yes it won’t keep up with full auto but semi it does shoot good. The key is to go into the programming and getting the sensitivity right. If you do get a jam there’s a little spinner on the bottom clockwise to back it off anti-clockwise to push the balls back up and you’re good to go again.
@@adampomeroy9463 yeah we have a few people that want them, just waiting for stock to fill. But yeah I haven’t had any issues at all with my t15 since I swapped barrels. And that’s like almost 2 years or so
@@dudesguns3443 ended up getting a first strike and a valken … love them all , all have there pros and cons.. I will say the valken for home defense or close quarters is nice plus full auto The first strike is the fanciest and most real feel out of all of them. It’s my favorite to larp with lol Tmc elite is like the farm truck that has been on the farm for ever and won’t die . Durable , cheaper, easy to fix
Love it, good breakdown on the quirks. Would love to see videos base magazines as a big "choice" category. Durability and reliability. Also, I have yet to see anyone really comment on the 13ci through stock system durability. Can I throw one around more than another? I obviously don't want to 3-5second rush to standard, buttstock in the ground... but just curious as to the actual durability of those systems in general. I got out of paintball right as those were becoming a thing, kind of curious now that I am looking to get back in. Thanks!
Thanks! Think some stock systems are more durable than others and depending on your regulator on the tank also. We have some people that abuse their markers and chuck them all over the place without much issue. But something like the emf100 stock provides more support to than something like a t15 or something similar. So it depends. I’ve never ever had an issue and I’ve played with a handful of different styles. But I also don’t throw my markers like some. I do however prop on my marker when say kneeled down with my buttstock on the ground.
@@doccthehunter Yeah, no I get what you mean. Yeah I had been liking that T15 since it first showed, but you threw me with the "labor of love" though lol. Very identifiable description. I prefer the average grunt "abusable" category, and not as big on the full auto or first strike being a priority. Just a full combat load and reliable mags with some customizability. I do love my apex2 though, so that T15 barrel system may limit options. Anyways, droning at this point, I appreciate the insight man, look forward to more content down the line.
So with the tank in stock. Is it pretty secure. I imagine it could be a weak point and possibly snap. I’ve seen this mod for emf100 and curious of the strength of a stock over tank setup like the t15
Wes has run it for a while now with no issues and I see people with that type of setup of with no real problems from what Ive seen, seems the “tech” has been around long enough for it to be reliable enough
Amazing video! Thank you so much, and yes I like this style, I love it! can you talk about the mags for the EMF100 like what the helix is compared to the Dmax
I dont have any experience with the helix mags. From what i do know because we do own some they are the same idea as the dmags but cheaper build and feel, they dont have the little trap doors the dmags do and you have to use rods to push down the loaders inside i think. Some dont mind them but i think alot of people really dont like them and from what ive seen im one of those that dont care for them lol. Dmags a really good if you dont mind the 10/10 . And Thank you!
Ok I am guilty, I own four different Versions of FS T 15. And for mixed Big-Games there will be attached a sound activated DYE BOXED ROTOR with 320 Paintball arguments in it. 😁
tough one, but if you one the best consistency and accuracy, nice and easy to use and light weight...probably the mg100 but if you want something more customizable, real feeling and possible full auto down the road. but still pretty accurate and reliable once you get used to it. then maybe the t15. I love my t15, the feel of the full auto is so good and it makes up for any short coming in my opinion. Not sure if that helps at all. be good if you could get your hands on both at a field if you could find someone or know them.
I’ve one ever used one a long time ago, and it was with a hopper so I couldn’t say nowadays. I do think it’s a cool marker with some cool features, burst, box mag, roundball-first strike on the fly. Cool stuff but I’ve heard they are also a little finicky and given the price I’d probably stay away unless you found a really good deal used maybe? But that’s my take having never used one to any major extent. I think an emf with some extras or a t15 with full auto would be better and cheaper. But it’s preference at the end of the day.
@@brandongoutdoors as it is most places. I only get to use them at some big games. Which I’m happy about. I’m not made of money lol can’t afford the first strike only life
I haven’t checked in a while on the 468, but I didn’t include it simply due to no experience with it first hand. No one in our group has one and I’ve never used one so I didn’t want to speak on it. I know it’s popular though
From our experience it definitely seems that way, we have had more issues with them with round ball. And the winders seem to have issues at times even when they are brand new. So first strikes even get the crappy end of the stick
Milsim? True milsim is to use airsoft platecarriers and rusty aks. Dont think drones or bayaktars translate to paintball realistically. Muskets lost their military value long time ago!
Well I’m not one to over tighten but we also had this happen to someone with new mags that had not been taken apart. That would make sense if that’s the issue though.. good to know
The EMF100 now has a drop in valve that HK Army is selling that makes the marker full auto now.
Was about to say the same thing. And it's very reasonably priced at $45. However you can't switch between semi and full auto when it's installed (but installation is topless and takes less than a minute).
@@Isaac_L.. yea you just have to practice being fast on the semi auto release 😅
@@thingsthathappentojeff5862 I've not actually tried it yet. I think I'll order one before the summer though. Do you think a stiffer trigger spring would be nice with it to help a bit with the return?
@@Isaac_L.. I can see that helping with assisting with semi auto trigger pull with the valve installed because it's very sensitive. So that extra resistance should help. I personally use the fang trigger from inception design to shorten my trigger pull.
My first marker ever was a TMC elite, I knew about paintball already but it was more like a regular xtremme sport as skydiving or skateboard becuase I saw videos about speed tournaments, but when I discovered magfed I realized that I had to try it, once I played it I got addicted.
After that I had a T15 with full auto
Then an A5 magfed with response trigger, a TCR , another Tmc , a tipx, but at the end I stayed with my MG100 🥰
I been very happy these 2.5 years since I started to play. 🤗
Yeah its bad, like pokemon or something you just gotta have me all at some point for some reason but for the most part nowadays most everything is usable, just good at something else lol Happy you are enjoying it!!
Did the research my self and bought my fist magfed marker two months ago. What i concluded from reading and watching review was more or less exactly what you said, so this could have saved me alot of time good jobb.
Thanks!! Yeah i figured 3 are good choices regardless, not to say there arent others that are just as good these are just what i have a decent amount of time with.
@@doccthehunter And at least where I'am they are the ones that are widely available.
Just watched this, great intro to markers!
Reg. The cf20, when you wind it up and put the PBs in, you can have the cap close at the top just like the dam mags without releasing the spring, creating tension on the PBs.
So they can lay in there without the push of the spring until you load them into your marker 👍😁
MG 100!!!
Stormer elite is my marker and I love it the only issue is no option for a sling and the barrel shroud thing is one of one so there’s no changing it it’s already getting loose
I’ve heard good things, I know they also make some 3d printed replacements in different styles for it online
@@doccthehunter I apologize for just not seeing this I’m gonna go look it up
I own a t15 I built it into a dmr and I love it you do have tinker with it alot and I own the emf100 as my back up and I love it , it does not give any problems I can just play paintball now the t15 is turning into my back up for new players I would hands down recommend the emf100
Seems like t15s are 50/50, once I swapped to a new barrel I haven’t had any issues since. But I know a couple guys that constantly have issues. I’d say the emf100 is the better marker for sure but a full auto t15 is just to much fun!!
@@doccthehunter oh I agree totally, one suggestion for your t15 you should get the drop down asa and go with a smaller riser, but good video 👍
@@dpdonmegat1000 thought about it… just don’t want to poke the bear lol but thanks I appreciate it!
It's for sure a more expensive option for the emf. But you just cannot beat the simplicity. Get an ID100 upper from inception designs. Then you can run a real steel handguard and stock and can then run a remote line. Boom. Milsim achieved. At that point if someone is going to nitpick about the mags you can tell them to eff off. They even have ak body kits for the emf
true true, the EMF is popular for a reason but in my head the comparison of stock versions of each. There are some super cool EMF builds are there and id say more diversity in the styles you can achieve with it vs the T15. I love the ID100 upper but man thats a price tag. One of us got one recently and its very cool.
I really like the Tippmann tipx you can do all kinds of things to it never had an issue love that gun
How do you get it to shoot beyond knifing distances with hpa?
Hands down #Tippmann Tmc Elite. 🇺🇲🤜💥🤛🇺🇲
MCS does have the adapters.
Just bought one for spider thread for my hammerhead barrel that I had For my 468 PTR
Might have to do that so I can use my hammerhead on my hammer 7. Good to know!
@@doccthehunter ya just switched from 468 to t-15. I know longer could take the velocity adjustment on the 468. But loving the t-15. Also the mcs box mag does work on the t-15. Been using it. DEFCON video was actually very misleading. Yes it won’t keep up with full auto but semi it does shoot good. The key is to go into the programming and getting the sensitivity right. If you do get a jam there’s a little spinner on the bottom clockwise to back it off anti-clockwise to push the balls back up and you’re good to go again.
@@adampomeroy9463 yeah we have a few people that want them, just waiting for stock to fill. But yeah I haven’t had any issues at all with my t15 since I swapped barrels. And that’s like almost 2 years or so
Is the replicalook only salesvalue for the dinosaur of magfed markers, t15. Is it still produced or discontinued by now?
I almost got a first strike but ended up getting a tmc elite and whalther ppq. I personally love them both.
Tmc is solid! And the ppq is a lot of fun, nice picks!
Wow I’d love to hear more
@@dudesguns3443 ended up getting a first strike and a valken … love them all , all have there pros and cons..
I will say the valken for home defense or close quarters is nice plus full auto
The first strike is the fanciest and most real feel out of all of them. It’s my favorite to larp with lol
Tmc elite is like the farm truck that has been on the farm for ever and won’t die . Durable , cheaper, easy to fix
Riptide Paintball has a great tutorial on how to mod a TMC to shoot first strike rounds. :)
Love it, good breakdown on the quirks. Would love to see videos base magazines as a big "choice" category. Durability and reliability. Also, I have yet to see anyone really comment on the 13ci through stock system durability. Can I throw one around more than another? I obviously don't want to 3-5second rush to standard, buttstock in the ground... but just curious as to the actual durability of those systems in general. I got out of paintball right as those were becoming a thing, kind of curious now that I am looking to get back in. Thanks!
Thanks! Think some stock systems are more durable than others and depending on your regulator on the tank also. We have some people that abuse their markers and chuck them all over the place without much issue. But something like the emf100 stock provides more support to than something like a t15 or something similar. So it depends. I’ve never ever had an issue and I’ve played with a handful of different styles. But I also don’t throw my markers like some. I do however prop on my marker when say kneeled down with my buttstock on the ground.
@@doccthehunter Yeah, no I get what you mean. Yeah I had been liking that T15 since it first showed, but you threw me with the "labor of love" though lol. Very identifiable description. I prefer the average grunt "abusable" category, and not as big on the full auto or first strike being a priority. Just a full combat load and reliable mags with some customizability. I do love my apex2 though, so that T15 barrel system may limit options. Anyways, droning at this point, I appreciate the insight man, look forward to more content down the line.
So with the tank in stock. Is it pretty secure. I imagine it could be a weak point and possibly snap. I’ve seen this mod for emf100 and curious of the strength of a stock over tank setup like the t15
Wes has run it for a while now with no issues and I see people with that type of setup of with no real problems from what Ive seen, seems the “tech” has been around long enough for it to be reliable enough
Amazing video!
Thank you so much, and yes I like this style, I love it!
can you talk about the mags for the EMF100
like what the helix is compared to the Dmax
I dont have any experience with the helix mags. From what i do know because we do own some they are the same idea as the dmags but cheaper build and feel, they dont have the little trap doors the dmags do and you have to use rods to push down the loaders inside i think. Some dont mind them but i think alot of people really dont like them and from what ive seen im one of those that dont care for them lol. Dmags a really good if you dont mind the 10/10 . And Thank you!
@@doccthehunter Thanks!
Ok I am guilty, I own four different Versions of FS T 15. And for mixed Big-Games there will be attached a sound activated DYE BOXED ROTOR with 320 Paintball arguments in it. 😁
Still dont know between the t15 or mg100
tough one, but if you one the best consistency and accuracy, nice and easy to use and light weight...probably the mg100 but if you want something more customizable, real feeling and possible full auto down the road. but still pretty accurate and reliable once you get used to it. then maybe the t15. I love my t15, the feel of the full auto is so good and it makes up for any short coming in my opinion. Not sure if that helps at all. be good if you could get your hands on both at a field if you could find someone or know them.
Love my versions of T15 ! Assault, PDW and DMR. The Children are quite ok, Grandpa VM 68 Magnum is still in Action since 30 years without any issue. 😉
Pretty good info!
What about the Dye Dam? Where does it fit in?
I’ve one ever used one a long time ago, and it was with a hopper so I couldn’t say nowadays. I do think it’s a cool marker with some cool features, burst, box mag, roundball-first strike on the fly. Cool stuff but I’ve heard they are also a little finicky and given the price I’d probably stay away unless you found a really good deal used maybe? But that’s my take having never used one to any major extent. I think an emf with some extras or a t15 with full auto would be better and cheaper. But it’s preference at the end of the day.
@@doccthehunter Lol for the price of a dye dam you can buy a t15 and emf-100. I think now it's completely irrelevant.
i just bought the tippman tmc elite
Awesome! If you have no desire for first strikes you could use it forever! Enjoy!! I still have mine as a back up
@@doccthehunter yea at my field you cant use first strikes last time i went someone got yelled at for using them
@@brandongoutdoors as it is most places. I only get to use them at some big games. Which I’m happy about. I’m not made of money lol can’t afford the first strike only life
@@doccthehunter yea paintball is expensive and airsoft is toxic and more cheaters so I rather pay more for more fun
Hey great video 😃 Is that the base T-15 or the T-15 PDW? Thanks :)
Mine was the t15 dmr when I got it, swapped the stock out to an air thru and swapped the barrel. But still have the dmr hand guard on it
Is the 468 even available or why didn’t you include it?
I haven’t checked in a while on the 468, but I didn’t include it simply due to no experience with it first hand. No one in our group has one and I’ve never used one so I didn’t want to speak on it. I know it’s popular though
468 is the beast. The pre not worth the 500 more. But the 468 is the best
Is it just me who feels like the DYE mags are better than the CF100s???
From our experience it definitely seems that way, we have had more issues with them with round ball. And the winders seem to have issues at times even when they are brand new. So first strikes even get the crappy end of the stick
T-15 is the only ancer
Milsim? True milsim is to use airsoft platecarriers and rusty aks. Dont think drones or bayaktars translate to paintball realistically. Muskets lost their military value long time ago!
That issue with the tmc mags is because you have the screws on your mags too tight 🤙😉
Well I’m not one to over tighten but we also had this happen to someone with new mags that had not been taken apart. That would make sense if that’s the issue though.. good to know