It’s a boat anchor out of the box. Resurfaced to 1500 and still a boat anchor. Last chance for this ball coming soon, will try it at 1500 polished. If it doesn’t work, I’m giving it away to a lefty friend with more hand than me…
I really appreciate your deep dive into the Night Road. I picked one up recently b/c I love the Virtual Blackout, and it's the same cover so I figured, "why not?" I changed the surface, and went with 5 x 40* based on your layout comparison video -- it is incredibly continuous! I'm supremely impressed with this ball thus far. I'm *really* liking this REX Pearl cover. Do Roto Grip or Global have their own version of this cover? And is there a solid version of it anywhere in the wild? I couldn't find anything (yet).
For Roto it's XtremeTrax, so it was solid on the Idol Helios and pearl on the Idol Cosmos, and for Global it's Reserve Blend 801, so it's on the Zen Gold Label.
I know I for one and I'm sure I speak for most when I say that we appreciate your thoroughness, expertise and professionalism in your channel and it shows. I look forward to your reviews and it's nice to see a lefty review bowling products. Rev dominate and two handers are not in my wheelhouse so your reviews are quite refreshing for us averagish bowlers. Thanks and hope your new equipment is making life a little easier.
I know this is a late comment but I had to redo my surface on a ball spinner, 360, 500 1k, 2k and finished it with a 5000 Trucut and it’s a lot better then box
You and Angel illustrate what a regular bowler should expect from these bowling balls. The actual pros can make a house ball look good. I don’t take their reviews as seriously as yours. Great video. Please keep up the good work.
Yeah I've always joked that pros can strike with a rock from the parking lot, so I've never paid much attention to how something looks for them because it all looks amazing.
Hi Luke, very much appreciate the extra time, and extra effort that you and Angel put into these Night Road reviews! I was wondering, though, is a polished Night Road just a slightly stronger Hy-Road Pearl, and if so, does it even get into Angel's bag? I imagine you probably wouldn't have much use for such a ball on the left side of the lane; is that correct?
Oh no, the coverstock is much stronger than what's on the Hyroad Pearl, and yeah it'll be in her bag now. I don't use many symmetrics on house shots, but it did look pretty good in league last night for the last couple games, I was pretty surprised.
Got mine a little over a week ago. I bowl in 2 different centers, one with a little more built in friction than the other. Night Road has been money for me at both so far. Used reacta skuff before I drilled it, my 4k fast was on the chalky side, and I've been nothing but impressed so far. Higher friction center I can start a league set with it, and by about second and a half game I can switch for the other center. I can see this being an amazing choice for the higher rev players who are looking for a league ball for the season. Love your vids Luke, keep up the good work.
Maybe it’s just me, but REX covers need games to settle in far more than anything else in the Storm line. I generally refinish everything from the factory and it took probably 30 games for my Dark Code to stop punishing me for every mistake with speed or release.
Q-Luke, after watching your video on night road, I have friends that dug in on info about night road being said their has been some bad batches? I’m sure that happens with some balls but as I watch your videos of Angel, Jonathan, you
Nah, I don't think it's a batch issue, it was just a funky box surface issue. I think it's pretty clear that they were fine after I resurfaced them, if it was a batch issue they'd have still sucked no matter what the surface was.
You said you use Jayhawk Diamond Dust pads to resurface. I've been using abralon pads and True Cut pads on my ball spinner and I get a little better longevity out of the True Cut pads. Never the less, pads wear out fast and you go through a lot. On the Jayhawk website it shows these pads are $35 a pop, does the performance and longevity justify the cost? Also loved your comment about $200 air fresheners!
Yes, Tru Cuts are definitely more durable than abralon pads. Also yes the diamond dust pads are definitely worth it, they create a truer surface, and even at 500 and 1000, they don't scratch the ball up like abralons or Tru cuts, it's a more even and consistent surface. However, they're really designed more for resurfacing machines so they're thin and hard to hang onto if you're doing it by hand. If you had some kind of velcro hand mitt to stick them to, you'd be in business
usually (Since I have a surface scanner) i change the surface of a ball prior to drilling so I can repeat it. I don't trust out of the box surfaces as I have seen way too many be off. For example an Infiinite was supposed to be 4k? It scanned at 2k. So I adjust the surface to what the material says. EG. If i buy an infinite physix I will spin it at 1k, 2k, 4k to get a 4k surface on the ball. If the ball says 3k I may just use a fresh 3k pad or go to a 500 1000 3000 adjustment. Also I don't put too much stock into layouts as they account for maybe 2 to 5% of the reaction and surface and core/cover being the most important. Surface to adjust the length and the core/cover to let me know the general shape.
james needs to throw this. as a 2 hander i think i want a stronger cover to read better but still snap when i throw it into the friction from left of 20
I've changed surfaces on bowling balls before. However, it seems as if it's more of a layout issue with some balls. I see that the next review is about those layout differences. It sucks when hypothesis and throwing the ball are 180 of each other even with surface changes and sucks to put more effort into plugging and redrilling the ball. It makes it look like Swiss cheese.
Yeah . . that's why I try to do as much as possible to help with the information. Sure it's dry and boring but mistakes with bowling balls are expensive.
@@LukeRosdahl it's not boring at all! Whatever helps with gaining more knowledge and upping my game is worth doing. It's still hard to think what the core and cover combo will do with a layout cuz sometimes it changes the motion completely.
1 ball I did every surface change you can think of and tried and tried to get it to work it was the motiv jackal legacy and that ball is the only ball that I will say it didn’t do anything with any surface it was just junk lol I gave that ball every chance to shine and it just didn’t
While I agree whole-heartedly with the "don't throw a ball two games and call it crap" notion, I have to think there's quite a bit of psychology in play as well. When you drop so much money on something (bowling ball or otherwise) and you DON'T get what you paid for right away, it's irritating as hell. Like, why am I paying all this money AND doing all this work myself? I know that's a slightly entitled, immature reaction, but I've been there. (Like buying Jeep parts, for instance.) It takes some mental maturity to take a breath, troubleshoot, and get what you need from what you got. But even then, that bad out-of-box experience can still leave a bad taste in your mouth. First impressions are important, and I don't blame people for being pissed off for spending $200 on a project.
Yeah, it's just that there are such a ridiculous amount of variables in bowling that the fact that they can get balls to do as well out of the box for such a wide variety of people in the first place defies math and odds. Other things are like this too and I think people just need to accept it for what it is. Like if you play baseball or softball and get a new glove or bat, there's an entire process you go through to get them game ready that they don't see action for a while and I think bowlers have been a little too conditioned to expect a more turn-key experience. Shiny balls for example are glossed up to look pretty on a shelf, not necessarily to perform better. Plenty of other things need customizing or arranging to personalize them. It's like buying a new car and then being upset that you have to adjust the seat and steering wheel and mirrors and connect your phone, etc . . there's such a wide range of people that they can't possibly have that tailored for you when you buy it. Bowling balls to me are the same way, get out and practice a little bit, change the surface, play with the angles, compare the ball to other ones you have, and get it broken in. The idea that someone wants to just buy whatever ball off the wall they want, put the pin above their bridge, and then go strike a bunch in league out of the box just doesn't logic for me.
@@LukeRosdahl I think some folks just don't like the fact that choosing a ball is, at least in part, a crap shoot. You can be a solid bowler, watch all the reviews in the world, watch others with a similar game to your own throw a particular ball successfully... and still end up with a $200+ paperweight. Sometimes, even after doing all the surface experimentation and putting a bunch of games on a ball, it just won't be consistent for you. I've drilled 5 balls this past year after many moons away from bowling: Scorpion, Hyped Pearl, Phaze 4, Zen Soul, and a Black Widow 2.0. Only the Widow has proved to be too inconsistent to use in competition. I've thrown some big games with it, but for whatever reason it's just overly sensitive to lane conditions and everything has to be "just right" for me to strike consistently with it... it's either 230 or a 180, lol. And when it counts, I can't afford to waste 3 or 4 frames figuring out if it's gonna work or not. I didn't get mad at it though... it just isn't the right ball for me. Luck of the draw...
I have an Infinite Physix that I'm having a problem with. I'm getting a similar reaction with it like how you described your Night Road in your first video. It will be strong and continuous rolling hard through the pins and then it starts to puke. It will stop rolling and then go forward. I'm left handed so there isn't a lot of traffic burning up the lanes. Is the cover and core that strong that it's burning up ? Any suggestions?
I'm curious about this too. I'm a lefty and having the same issue. I have tried different surfaces, hand positions, and speed. Seems like the only way I can get it to do what I want is to slow hook it. And when I do start putting surface it starts to look like my Proton Physix (only going down to 2000).
Might be too much torque, I use my Infinite quite a bit but it was doing that last night. Turned out it was just the pair we were on, that specific pair is notorious for playing a little drier than the rest of the house, so instead of picking up and driving, it was just burning up a little. Best thing to do is get away from the friction and give it more oil.
I’m having similar issues with a new Zen I recently purchased with the 4K fast box finish. Definitely hasn’t been the “Zen ball good” I was expecting. Definitely want to play with the surface but haven’t decided what to try first.
I'd do the same thing I did, do the old factory polish surface reset. 500-1000-step 2/powerhouse factory finish/polish. 4k fast ends up with a lot smoother surface because they use everything but 3k on the way up
This just shows that the road series needs to be polished. call me stupid but it could be the core not matching well with non shinny covers. The other duller roads didn't look good imo as well.
Don't still have it, plus it's discontinued, so not a thing the company would like to see . . but I'm going to be doing it going forward with a lot of stuff
Ok, got to throw it, for me, it has a strong backend motion (i was bowling on dry im pretty sure) after a few shots i put 2k on it not a good choice, i think ima 2k. Then polish it, or lane shine it tn
Let me see if I got this right: A product is submitted to the public marketplace after going thru the Storm’s R&D and testing where it is supposed to be optimized for its intended function before being placed in the consumers hands.🎯 Yet, to your logic, the end user is somehow responsible for that final optimization. I beg to differ. It is best to forego this work in progress and wait of the “proven corrected” version -that is sure to follow. I do however greatly appreciate you and your efforts to at least give us the facts.🙏🏽😇🖖🏽🌈
Right . . so people don't break in baseball gloves or softball bats? The end user is responsible for the fine tuning for virtually every product sold to any market. It has to be drilled to fit your hand right? The layout has to be optimized for you right? Why does it not follow logic that the surface might have to be optimized for you as well? How are they supposed to know exactly what lane surface and conditions and climate you bowl in and how can they "optimize" something to fit such a wide variety of consumers and situations? When you go to buy a car, do you get mad that you have to adjust the seat, steering wheel, mirrors, etc. for it to fit you specifically? They have specialized finishing equipment at the factory that doesn't exist at any pro shop, so any time you need to adjust the coverstock, you'll never be able to get it back to the factory finish. You can get it close, but you'll never get it all the way there. It's up to the user to pick the ball that's right for them, have it drilled correctly for them to both fit their hand and for the reaction to fit their game, and the surface is part of that. The surface the ball is sent at is just a suggestion. I just don't get the idea that in the literal most complicated game in the world, with an incalculable amount of variables, that every ball should come out of the factory perfectly tailored and suited for every single bowler, situation, and condition. So yes, to my logic, the end user is responsible for the final optimization, just like they are for virtually every other product available for sale.
"Proven corrected" for whom? There are no absolute truths in this sport. Surface management is just one of many tools at our disposal for getting the kind of ball reaction that suits each individual's game. To opine that a particular ball at a given surface finish is somehow "universally optimal" for everybody who choses to throw it, is completely and utterly ridiculous... so yes, it is the end user's responsibility to figure out what works and what doesn't for THEM. Nobody can do that for you... and frankly, even if it were possible, I cannot fathom why anyone would want that. Might as well pay somebody to bowl for you...
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Ok Luke nice video i can't decide if The Road needs a weaker layout. Thanks 👍.
I really appreciate your transparency. This is what makes you such a trusted source for me. Keep up the good work.
Did the same to my night road, took it to 1500 polish and wow what a difference. It’s like it needs it to wake up. Great video and great information
Yep! The importance of surface!
It’s a boat anchor out of the box. Resurfaced to 1500 and still a boat anchor. Last chance for this ball coming soon, will try it at 1500 polished. If it doesn’t work, I’m giving it away to a lefty friend with more hand than me…
1500 sanded is too much surface for that cover, I think if you just go 1000 and then hit it with some polish, you'll be fine.
I really appreciate your deep dive into the Night Road. I picked one up recently b/c I love the Virtual Blackout, and it's the same cover so I figured, "why not?" I changed the surface, and went with 5 x 40* based on your layout comparison video -- it is incredibly continuous! I'm supremely impressed with this ball thus far.
I'm *really* liking this REX Pearl cover. Do Roto Grip or Global have their own version of this cover? And is there a solid version of it anywhere in the wild? I couldn't find anything (yet).
For Roto it's XtremeTrax, so it was solid on the Idol Helios and pearl on the Idol Cosmos, and for Global it's Reserve Blend 801, so it's on the Zen Gold Label.
@@LukeRosdahl thank you for this! I truly appreciate it
I know I for one and I'm sure I speak for most when I say that we appreciate your thoroughness, expertise and professionalism in your channel and it shows. I look forward to your reviews and it's nice to see a lefty review bowling products. Rev dominate and two handers are not in my wheelhouse so your reviews are quite refreshing for us averagish bowlers. Thanks and hope your new equipment is making life a little easier.
I know this is a late comment but I had to redo my surface on a ball spinner, 360, 500 1k, 2k and finished it with a 5000 Trucut and it’s a lot better then box
you do some of the most if not the most intensive videos on the web,, you have nothing to apologize for
You and Angel illustrate what a regular bowler should expect from these bowling balls. The actual pros can make a house ball look good. I don’t take their reviews as seriously as yours. Great video. Please keep up the good work.
Yeah I've always joked that pros can strike with a rock from the parking lot, so I've never paid much attention to how something looks for them because it all looks amazing.
Everything looks great when you're +/- one quarter of a board on every shot.
@@shaunmcisaac782 They make it look easy.
Hi Luke, very much appreciate the extra time, and extra effort that you and Angel put into these Night Road reviews! I was wondering, though, is a polished Night Road just a slightly stronger Hy-Road Pearl, and if so, does it even get into Angel's bag? I imagine you probably wouldn't have much use for such a ball on the left side of the lane; is that correct?
Oh no, the coverstock is much stronger than what's on the Hyroad Pearl, and yeah it'll be in her bag now. I don't use many symmetrics on house shots, but it did look pretty good in league last night for the last couple games, I was pretty surprised.
Love your videos!
Excellent! Glad the reacta shine did the trick. Keep up the awesome work!
Got mine a little over a week ago. I bowl in 2 different centers, one with a little more built in friction than the other. Night Road has been money for me at both so far. Used reacta skuff before I drilled it, my 4k fast was on the chalky side, and I've been nothing but impressed so far. Higher friction center I can start a league set with it, and by about second and a half game I can switch for the other center. I can see this being an amazing choice for the higher rev players who are looking for a league ball for the season. Love your vids Luke, keep up the good work.
Maybe it’s just me, but REX covers need games to settle in far more than anything else in the Storm line. I generally refinish everything from the factory and it took probably 30 games for my Dark Code to stop punishing me for every mistake with speed or release.
My favorite part is how you point out you're not a brand loving salesman and seconds later take an infomercial line. "But wait, there's more"
Love the thumbnail on this one!
Q-Luke, after watching your video on night road, I have friends that dug in on info about night road being said their has been some bad batches? I’m sure that happens with some balls but as I watch your videos of Angel, Jonathan, you
Nah, I don't think it's a batch issue, it was just a funky box surface issue. I think it's pretty clear that they were fine after I resurfaced them, if it was a batch issue they'd have still sucked no matter what the surface was.
Definitely night and day
Great reviews... Like both sides of the coin information
Love this video
Is there enough of a difference between the PH urethane and PHR to quantify a comparison video?
Yeah definitely, one is a urethane ball and the other is reactive, plus they changed the core a little.
You said you use Jayhawk Diamond Dust pads to resurface. I've been using abralon pads and True Cut pads on my ball spinner and I get a little better longevity out of the True Cut pads. Never the less, pads wear out fast and you go through a lot. On the Jayhawk website it shows these pads are $35 a pop, does the performance and longevity justify the cost? Also loved your comment about $200 air fresheners!
Yes, Tru Cuts are definitely more durable than abralon pads. Also yes the diamond dust pads are definitely worth it, they create a truer surface, and even at 500 and 1000, they don't scratch the ball up like abralons or Tru cuts, it's a more even and consistent surface. However, they're really designed more for resurfacing machines so they're thin and hard to hang onto if you're doing it by hand. If you had some kind of velcro hand mitt to stick them to, you'd be in business
usually (Since I have a surface scanner) i change the surface of a ball prior to drilling so I can repeat it. I don't trust out of the box surfaces as I have seen way too many be off. For example an Infiinite was supposed to be 4k? It scanned at 2k. So I adjust the surface to what the material says. EG. If i buy an infinite physix I will spin it at 1k, 2k, 4k to get a 4k surface on the ball. If the ball says 3k I may just use a fresh 3k pad or go to a 500 1000 3000 adjustment. Also I don't put too much stock into layouts as they account for maybe 2 to 5% of the reaction and surface and core/cover being the most important. Surface to adjust the length and the core/cover to let me know the general shape.
james needs to throw this. as a 2 hander i think i want a stronger cover to read better but still snap when i throw it into the friction from left of 20
Looks much better look for you Luke.
Very similar to what happened with your UC3. Polish it up and slight modification to layout and lights out.
What are the steps to a full factory reset you did on resurfacing the ball. Take it down to 500 and work your way back up?
Every surface has a specific process, the 1500 polish one is 500, 1000, step 2 compound, I just replaced the compound with a different polish
Wow, that thing doesn’t look half bad for you now. It makes a really nice shape with the surface adjustment.
I've changed surfaces on bowling balls before. However, it seems as if it's more of a layout issue with some balls. I see that the next review is about those layout differences. It sucks when hypothesis and throwing the ball are 180 of each other even with surface changes and sucks to put more effort into plugging and redrilling the ball. It makes it look like Swiss cheese.
Yeah . . that's why I try to do as much as possible to help with the information. Sure it's dry and boring but mistakes with bowling balls are expensive.
@@LukeRosdahl it's not boring at all! Whatever helps with gaining more knowledge and upping my game is worth doing. It's still hard to think what the core and cover combo will do with a layout cuz sometimes it changes the motion completely.
1 ball I did every surface change you can think of and tried and tried to get it to work it was the motiv jackal legacy and that ball is the only ball that I will say it didn’t do anything with any surface it was just junk lol I gave that ball every chance to shine and it just didn’t
Might just have been too strong for the conditions or not that great of a layout or something. So many variables in bowling . .
For sure let’s just say the nite road has way more hook then this ball lol it was a dam good straight ball lol
Yea I have had a lot of balls and that was and is the only one that I could never figure out
Hey Luke what do you think about a short pin layout on this ball?
Eh, this isn't a short pin kind of ball, you generally are looking for roll and control, and this ball is built for length and sharpness.
@@LukeRosdahl so in your opinion in the current SPI line up what do you think would be the best candidate for a short pin layout?
Ok... I now must demand you make a video of you yeeting SOMETHING into a dumpster. I don't care what, but I must have the yeet. #YEETIT
While I agree whole-heartedly with the "don't throw a ball two games and call it crap" notion, I have to think there's quite a bit of psychology in play as well.
When you drop so much money on something (bowling ball or otherwise) and you DON'T get what you paid for right away, it's irritating as hell. Like, why am I paying all this money AND doing all this work myself?
I know that's a slightly entitled, immature reaction, but I've been there. (Like buying Jeep parts, for instance.)
It takes some mental maturity to take a breath, troubleshoot, and get what you need from what you got. But even then, that bad out-of-box experience can still leave a bad taste in your mouth. First impressions are important, and I don't blame people for being pissed off for spending $200 on a project.
Yeah, it's just that there are such a ridiculous amount of variables in bowling that the fact that they can get balls to do as well out of the box for such a wide variety of people in the first place defies math and odds. Other things are like this too and I think people just need to accept it for what it is. Like if you play baseball or softball and get a new glove or bat, there's an entire process you go through to get them game ready that they don't see action for a while and I think bowlers have been a little too conditioned to expect a more turn-key experience. Shiny balls for example are glossed up to look pretty on a shelf, not necessarily to perform better. Plenty of other things need customizing or arranging to personalize them.
It's like buying a new car and then being upset that you have to adjust the seat and steering wheel and mirrors and connect your phone, etc . . there's such a wide range of people that they can't possibly have that tailored for you when you buy it. Bowling balls to me are the same way, get out and practice a little bit, change the surface, play with the angles, compare the ball to other ones you have, and get it broken in. The idea that someone wants to just buy whatever ball off the wall they want, put the pin above their bridge, and then go strike a bunch in league out of the box just doesn't logic for me.
@@LukeRosdahl
I think some folks just don't like the fact that choosing a ball is, at least in part, a crap shoot. You can be a solid bowler, watch all the reviews in the world, watch others with a similar game to your own throw a particular ball successfully... and still end up with a $200+ paperweight. Sometimes, even after doing all the surface experimentation and putting a bunch of games on a ball, it just won't be consistent for you.
I've drilled 5 balls this past year after many moons away from bowling: Scorpion, Hyped Pearl, Phaze 4, Zen Soul, and a Black Widow 2.0. Only the Widow has proved to be too inconsistent to use in competition. I've thrown some big games with it, but for whatever reason it's just overly sensitive to lane conditions and everything has to be "just right" for me to strike consistently with it... it's either 230 or a 180, lol. And when it counts, I can't afford to waste 3 or 4 frames figuring out if it's gonna work or not. I didn't get mad at it though... it just isn't the right ball for me. Luck of the draw...
I have an Infinite Physix that I'm having a problem with. I'm getting a similar reaction with it like how you described your Night Road in your first video. It will be strong and continuous rolling hard through the pins and then it starts to puke. It will stop rolling and then go forward. I'm left handed so there isn't a lot of traffic burning up the lanes. Is the cover and core that strong that it's burning up ? Any suggestions?
I'm curious about this too. I'm a lefty and having the same issue. I have tried different surfaces, hand positions, and speed. Seems like the only way I can get it to do what I want is to slow hook it. And when I do start putting surface it starts to look like my Proton Physix (only going down to 2000).
Might be too much torque, I use my Infinite quite a bit but it was doing that last night. Turned out it was just the pair we were on, that specific pair is notorious for playing a little drier than the rest of the house, so instead of picking up and driving, it was just burning up a little. Best thing to do is get away from the friction and give it more oil.
If I have all road already is it worth picking this up
Maybe not, they shape and act fairly similarly. Would be a good replacement for it tho
I’m having similar issues with a new Zen I recently purchased with the 4K fast box finish. Definitely hasn’t been the “Zen ball good” I was expecting. Definitely want to play with the surface but haven’t decided what to try first.
I'd do the same thing I did, do the old factory polish surface reset. 500-1000-step 2/powerhouse factory finish/polish. 4k fast ends up with a lot smoother surface because they use everything but 3k on the way up
This just shows that the road series needs to be polished. call me stupid but it could be the core not matching well with non shinny covers. The other duller roads didn't look good imo as well.
No, no, you're absolutely right. The only dull Road that was good was the Hy-Road Nano.
Would be cool if you did this with the Hyroad-Max, believe you said "and that ball just sucked".
Don't still have it, plus it's discontinued, so not a thing the company would like to see . . but I'm going to be doing it going forward with a lot of stuff
Bowling is more complicated when I somehow went from 16 to 18 at the line without any extra revs so nothing rolls the same anymore 😐
Now with polish has the Night turned into a stronger HRP you were hoping for in your original review?
Yeah, it's got that strong round continuous motion to it, like a stronger Hyroad X too really. Really like it now
Can’t wait for another 16 pound wonder
Im getting one tomorrow ill update
Ok, got to throw it, for me, it has a strong backend motion (i was bowling on dry im pretty sure) after a few shots i put 2k on it not a good choice, i think ima 2k. Then polish it, or lane shine it tn
Let me see if I got this right: A product is submitted to the public marketplace after going thru the Storm’s R&D and testing where it is supposed to be optimized for its intended function before being placed in the consumers hands.🎯 Yet, to your logic, the end user is somehow responsible for that final optimization. I beg to differ. It is best to forego this work in progress and wait of the “proven corrected” version -that is sure to follow. I do however greatly appreciate you and your efforts to at least give us the facts.🙏🏽😇🖖🏽🌈
Right . . so people don't break in baseball gloves or softball bats? The end user is responsible for the fine tuning for virtually every product sold to any market. It has to be drilled to fit your hand right? The layout has to be optimized for you right? Why does it not follow logic that the surface might have to be optimized for you as well? How are they supposed to know exactly what lane surface and conditions and climate you bowl in and how can they "optimize" something to fit such a wide variety of consumers and situations?
When you go to buy a car, do you get mad that you have to adjust the seat, steering wheel, mirrors, etc. for it to fit you specifically? They have specialized finishing equipment at the factory that doesn't exist at any pro shop, so any time you need to adjust the coverstock, you'll never be able to get it back to the factory finish. You can get it close, but you'll never get it all the way there. It's up to the user to pick the ball that's right for them, have it drilled correctly for them to both fit their hand and for the reaction to fit their game, and the surface is part of that. The surface the ball is sent at is just a suggestion. I just don't get the idea that in the literal most complicated game in the world, with an incalculable amount of variables, that every ball should come out of the factory perfectly tailored and suited for every single bowler, situation, and condition.
So yes, to my logic, the end user is responsible for the final optimization, just like they are for virtually every other product available for sale.
"Proven corrected" for whom? There are no absolute truths in this sport. Surface management is just one of many tools at our disposal for getting the kind of ball reaction that suits each individual's game. To opine that a particular ball at a given surface finish is somehow "universally optimal" for everybody who choses to throw it, is completely and utterly ridiculous... so yes, it is the end user's responsibility to figure out what works and what doesn't for THEM. Nobody can do that for you... and frankly, even if it were possible, I cannot fathom why anyone would want that. Might as well pay somebody to bowl for you...
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Great, maybe now some of your mouth breathing fans can stop the “this ball doesn’t hook” when they don’t even have the ball.
I mean, to be fair, out of the box it's pretty rough for a solid amount of people, but obviously with a little adjustment, they'll be just fine
For the algorithm
Definitely night and day