Western Thrace, Contested Space: The Turks of northeast Greece | People and Power

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  • Опубликовано: 11 дек 2024

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  • @alexisgateley230
    @alexisgateley230 4 года назад +367

    Inform us Al Jazeera about the Lausanne treaty and the fate of the "protected" Greek minority in Istanbul, how from 200,000 about 100 years ago, now only about 2000 are left, mostly very elderly. What happened to them? Tell us and then make comparisons to western thrace, if you dare..

    • @Cex-ev6be
      @Cex-ev6be 4 года назад +27

      Alexis Gateley yes hello, I am a decented at of one of those greeks. A lot of us just became Turkish nothing happened to us. Most likely half the population of turkey is ethnically greeks who were made turks (they were also made greeks 1000 years before that). So yeah there’s more ethnic greeks in turkey than Greece more likely :)
      Mostly we are Anatolian natives! Were made greek a few thousand years ago, then made turks 1000-100 years ago. Before that we were Sumerians, hittites, lidians, hundreds of cool anatolian civilizations!
      We are mostly the same people therefore don’t listen to western controlled media like this trying to seperate us :) seperate, we are weaker, easier to control

    • @alexisgateley230
      @alexisgateley230 4 года назад +47

      @@Cex-ev6be google search "istanbul pogrom 1955", select "images", have a look and then tell me in which side your ancestors were. Malarkey and anatolian story telling does not work with me, I trust facts not fiction.

    • @drewblackmatter6669
      @drewblackmatter6669 4 года назад +1

      @@Cex-ev6be you mast see ferst yior DNA and RNA and after you are okay to get Sepoukou syhtir pounietero bairakmerda

    • @angrybirdo
      @angrybirdo 4 года назад +16

      Ce5x37788 8 we’re not talking about assimilated people. This issue concerns actual protected minorities

    • @guskaparos9349
      @guskaparos9349 4 года назад +32

      Alexis Gateley if I can answer your question the Greeks were ethically cleansed along with the DescriptionThe Armenian Genocide was the systematic mass murder and expulsion of 1.5 million ethnic Armenians carried out in Turkey. Of course the Turks historically have always lied about this.

  • @focast1825
    @focast1825 4 года назад +207

    Turks celebrate the capture of Constantinople annually. Funny way to say “let’s bury the hatchet”
    Turkey is currently in conflict with all of her neighbors and then we get questions about the hostility towards Turks.
    Honestly? Getting upset that ottoman monuments are falling into disrepair? You do realize those are monuments of conquest and oppression, right?
    This whole video is bizarre

    • @devacalis7380
      @devacalis7380 4 года назад

      de stapan kala.kapoia alli xora trogetai me tous geitonous.ainte.

    • @DimiosTheGreatGR
      @DimiosTheGreatGR 4 года назад +16

      @@devacalis7380 η δικιά σου
      Εχει καταπάτηση συριακο ,Κυπριακό έδαφος
      Τώρα υποστηρίζει τζιχαντιστες στην Λιβύη
      Απειλή την Ελλάδα
      Και μιλάς για εμάς? Τράβα στην Τουρκία

    • @Cex-ev6be
      @Cex-ev6be 4 года назад +6

      We are not at war with any of our neighbors except Syria. Iran? Iraq? Greece? Bulgaria? Azerbaijan? Georgia? Armenia?

    • @focast1825
      @focast1825 4 года назад +8

      Ce5x37788 8 I said “conflict” not “war”

    • @Graham567
      @Graham567 4 года назад +7

      @@focast1825 You're talking about the times of conquerors. Before that you conquered and spread too. You still hold these monutements. Well, good morning. Humans fought with each other since the beginning of groups, communities, tribes. Don't get all mad because you got conquered eventually, they got conquered as well. As for the conflict, as a person who follows Middle Eastern media daily, not really. Only conflict is between Syria and occasionally Greece. They're even doing good with Erbil's Kurdistan for a few years. Tensions tend to get rough with others sometimes but so does in the world.

  • @juanelgriego8441
    @juanelgriego8441 4 года назад +69

    This is pure propaganda
    The Lausanne Treaty clearly declares the religious status of the community as muslim , they signed it like it or not
    Now the turkish consulate tries for years to make them turks with persistence
    Nobody ever talks about Pomaks and how they want to label them as Turks as well
    I live in the region and nothing of this so called "pressure" is on

  • @praktikiskepsi
    @praktikiskepsi 4 года назад +156

    So much false information, that I don't know from where to start. No one buys your unhistorical content Jazzera, keep that in mind.

  • @IcecreamLeGenD
    @IcecreamLeGenD 4 года назад +73

    it is kind of understandable that the greek government isnt investing money in keeping the otoman buildings in shape. it has a historic value yes, but we shouldnt forget that greece was under forced occupation by the ottoman empire.
    btw: the occupation of northern cyprus is illegal under international law

    • @christermi
      @christermi 4 года назад +4

      @Arthur Valkan the opposite is true , get your facts straight, you're not fooling anyone.

    • @christermi
      @christermi 4 года назад

      @Arthur Valkan so ,what you're trying to say is that you hate wikipedia ? Or just doing basic internet research in general ? Maybe open a book next time .

    • @christermi
      @christermi 4 года назад

      not your country's history book , that's cold , man .

    • @christermi
      @christermi 4 года назад +1

      @Arthur Valkan so , you're not planning to get a DNA test yourself ? Funny thing is that, since there is no distinct nation called macedonia - macedonians are greek obviously - , it is almost guaranteed that you will end up belonging to one of your neighbouring countries, most notably bulgaria .

    • @christermi
      @christermi 4 года назад

      You present so much false information, I don't know from where to start .

  • @ApaleutosMits
    @ApaleutosMits 4 года назад +63

    These balkan people were oppressed by Turks and changed their religion and 'ethnicity'.Now this generation practise freely their religion and Greece pays to teach them turkish and have equal rights with other Greeks.On the other hand Greek minority in Constantinople,Imbros and Tenedos are gone due to turkish policy,'Istanbul pogrom',open prison on Imbros etc.

    • @christermi
      @christermi 4 года назад +1

      @John Mason care to give any examples ?

    • @gerodimon101
      @gerodimon101 4 года назад +3

      @John Mason interesting! The ottomans and turks didn't forced orthodox Christians to convert. Just killed and deported theme. So simple, so clean, so civilized, so ottoman to the bones. Now, i understand, what "ottoman courtesy" means.

    • @christermi
      @christermi 4 года назад +1

      @John Mason maybe not the islands you mentioned , but the *whole population of the islands of Chios , Samothraki , Psara and Kasos was exterminated or sold into slavery* .

    • @christermi
      @christermi 4 года назад +1

      @John Mason You casually avoid mentioning that every first born son of any christian family was taken away from his family in a very young age , in order to be trained as a janissary . Adding to that , the christians of the empire used to pay abnormally large taxes , something that would change only if the person switched his faith to islam .

    • @Bombogor
      @Bombogor 4 года назад

      @@christermi Yes and if they are clever they may become a pasha or vezir or architect . What a horrible end for a human .

  • @benuncle3745
    @benuncle3745 3 года назад +90

    One thing : the Greek population of turkey went from millions to 2000 in the last 100 years while the Turkish minority in Greece doubled in size

    • @hy8606
      @hy8606 3 года назад +6

      Hahah you are delusional mate. There were about a million Turks in the current territory that is Greece.

    • @benuncle3745
      @benuncle3745 3 года назад +24

      @@hy8606 ​To what time in history are you reffering to? It is known for sure that during the big population exchange in 1923 about 1,2 million greeks had to leave Turkey (exept the greeks of Istanbul and the islands Tenedos and Imbros) and about 400.000 turks had to leave greece (exept the turks of western thrace). But thats not even the situation I nor this video is directly reffering to. This video only talks about the truks that were aloud to stay in Greece (western thrace) after the population exchange of 1923. So with my comment I was reffering to the greek population that stayed in Turkey after 1923, which nowadays only consists of about 2000 civilians due to several pogroms and violance against greeks, while the turkish population of western thrace (Greece) doubled in size

    • @hy8606
      @hy8606 3 года назад +5

      @@benuncle3745 greek population of Istanbul was around 90k after pop echange of 1923. Pop exchange was requested by the Greek govt

    • @grinchspoiler2956
      @grinchspoiler2956 3 года назад +1

      @Cansu Джансу most of them escaped in Turkey so stfu

    • @yusuf3005
      @yusuf3005 2 года назад

      Evet Türk azınlık. Onlar Türk olduklarını söylüyorlar zaten.

  • @swordofjustice5422
    @swordofjustice5422 4 года назад +140

    This is some next level hypocrisy... playing victim card as usual....

    • @devacalis7380
      @devacalis7380 4 года назад +5

      whatever you don't like you call it fake hypocricy etc etc we know its an old boring game.get a life.

    • @ΑπόστολοςΚαραγκούνης-χ7κ
      @ΑπόστολοςΚαραγκούνης-χ7κ 4 года назад +8

      @@devacalis7380 Keep barking sandeater.

    • @grinchspoiler2956
      @grinchspoiler2956 3 года назад +2

      @@devacalis7380 you don't like it? Then feel free to move to your homeland in Turkey ;-)

    • @levesd3722
      @levesd3722 3 года назад

      @@ismailtunacan2197 The way the rest of us see it they have no problems at all.

    • @Ha15679
      @Ha15679 7 месяцев назад

      @@grinchspoiler2956maybe turkey needs to move its troops to Thrace like they did in northern Cyprus!

  • @stec-gp8pi
    @stec-gp8pi 4 года назад +89

    Please Al Jazeera tell me about the prosperity of Turkey's Greek population

    • @luciepr8620
      @luciepr8620 4 года назад +2

      They live pretty well

    • @DimiosTheGreatGR
      @DimiosTheGreatGR 4 года назад +35

      @@luciepr8620 all of them got genocided or forced to leave not even one thousand lives there

    • @devacalis7380
      @devacalis7380 4 года назад

      NA MAS PEIS ESY KSEROLA.

    • @luciepr8620
      @luciepr8620 4 года назад +6

      @@DimiosTheGreatGR Im a greek living in Turkey and it is pretty good, don't see you're issue? Mabye because you live in Greece and just hear what the media says? ζήσε τη ζωή

    • @DimiosTheGreatGR
      @DimiosTheGreatGR 4 года назад +19

      @@luciepr8620 yea pretty good
      My family was from those lands and had to leave same as million more
      And if you are Greek you wouldn't call our occupied lands turkey but Μικρά Ασία

  • @ΚώσταςΡωμ
    @ΚώσταςΡωμ 3 года назад +37

    How DARE Greece not maintain monuments of the empire that stole their children away??

    • @levesd3722
      @levesd3722 2 года назад +1

      @c and you shouldn't complain about paybacks.

    • @gnas1897
      @gnas1897 2 года назад

      @c we shot a turk once and you stopped. But it had already been too late

    • @wankawanka3053
      @wankawanka3053 2 года назад +1

      @s just because you can speak that doesn't make you smart

    • @AnadoludaYaşayanÖnTürkler-g4x
      @AnadoludaYaşayanÖnTürkler-g4x Месяц назад

      Greeks are good at lying

  • @NikosPer
    @NikosPer 4 года назад +92

    500 years of slavery from Turks, WE WILL NEVER FORGET. Al Jazzera is doing propaganda as always...literally unbelievable ;)

    • @10peter1992
      @10peter1992 4 года назад +5

      @Polemarch For God's sake. You are ridiculous

    • @christermi
      @christermi 4 года назад +4

      @Pulcino Pio it was slavery , for sure ; Unbelievably high taxation , first born children abducted for the janissary cause , hindering trade inside the empire ( until the treaty of kücük-kaynarca which ended the Russo-Turkish war of 1774 , after which trade flourished in Greece ; since russian licences gave way for the increase in trading . However ,many speculate that the treaty had a negative impact in the greek industry , since Greek capital turned on sea activities . There is no doubt though that this accelerated economical development) . All this kept the local population impoverished , while at the same time religion and language was suppressed .

    • @10peter1992
      @10peter1992 4 года назад +4

      @Lethean In what way did Turks feed Greeks? where do you get that? The Ottoman Empire was the conqueror. It strived to increase its power and conquered lands and it made sense for them to do so. The Greeks were the conquered people. They paid immense taxes (per capita) that fluctuated depending on the Pasha's whims and were ruled by a power that occupied them from 1453 to 1821 (approximately). Aside from administrative centers in the Greek areas (such as Tripoli), during the Ottoman occupation most areas were underdeveloped and people were poor, as Ottomans only cared about collecting taxes. As long as taxes were paid, people could just drop dead for all the Ottomans cared. Some seafaring areas were doing better, but, overall, the Ottomans did not affect Greeks in a positive way. Greeks were certainly not viewed as equals to the Muslim population and there were very very few mixed marriages between the two ethnicities and that is an indication that Greeks were viewed even then as a distinct group. Calling the Greek revolution a treacherous act is calling the right to be free, the right to self-determination and the right to self-government treason. It's like saying that the Kurds are traitors, or the Indians (proper ones - not American "indians"), or the Kosovars. I get why you are bitter about it. Your empire got dismembered partly because of the Greek revolution. You lost a big chunk of it back then. You still view things from a 15th century perspective and refuse to acknowledge that it is unconscionable for a 21st century nation to be denied its existence simply because occupation serves the goals of its oppressors. Turkey was the occupying power and always has been. As long as that continued to be the case, people would keep protesting against it. Alas, there is no point in discussing that though. Hatred and animosity against one another has already begun spreading exponentially amongst both the Turkish and Greek people and I expect that words and common sense will soon lose all power in the face of propaganda in both countries. In that sense, no matter if our arguments prove to be right or wrong, we will still hate each other and that will be a sad day for us all... Considering that you obviously dislike Greeks, based on you comment, we're already half-way there.......

    • @Bombogor
      @Bombogor 4 года назад +2

      @@christermi Would you prefer Spanish Inqusition?
      Oh, no one expects the Spanish inqusition !
      May be you would be Latinised by now , your language would be forgotten.
      you would be catholic .
      By no means you were able to protect yourselves from Slavicization or Latinisation. ,
      We put a protection shell on you , during the most troubled era of Europe you were immaculate. No one was enough brave to attack Ottoman property and Ottoman's didn't force you religion or language .
      After 600 years of incubation you hatched and started to attack us .Little poor chick.

    • @christermi
      @christermi 4 года назад +6

      Bombogor , turkey has tried to erase hellenism numerous times
      First of all , after the failed russian led uprising in the aegean islands and epirus during the Russo-Turkish of the 1770s , the sultan decided to exterminate every greek of the empire , but he was talked out of this by his advisors who considered the income from taxes significant to the empire. Also during the Greek war of independence , the sultan gave the order to Ibrahim to kill every greek living in the rebellious regions of the peloponnese and central greece , which resulted in some hundreds of thousand deaths in the peloponnese alone . Let's not mention places like Chios , Psara and Kasos , islands whose entire population was massacred or sold into slavery by the turks ( we're talking about 30-60 thousand people in every island respectively) .
      Also ,Turkey , by invading the island of cyprus , created a HUMANITARIAN CRISIS with thousands killed or missing , hundreds of thousands forced to flee , just so that the small MINORITY of 18 percent could be the majority wherever they wanted ! take into consideration that the reason they first came to the island were economic , and their new presence was mainly in the Cities . Adding to that , turkey later made sure to increase the turkish population of the CONQUERED areas of cyprus by sending turkish nationals into the island !!!! A TOTAL INFRINGEMENT OF ALL INTERNATIONAL TREATIES ( for instance Geneva convention) .
      A further attempt by turkey to erase the hellenic presence , this time in Istanbul in the 6th of september 1955 , pogroms of Constantinople . Damage inflicted to the properties of its greek residents is estimated to have cost more than a billion US dollars(2008)/300 million dollars(1955) , leaving thousands of greeks with just their clothes , while 1004 houses (2500 more had extended damages inflicted upon them ) , 4348 stores , 26 schools , 21 factories, 73 churches etc. were destroyed , essentially bankrupting the local population . It's worth mentioning that rapes were as high as two thousand, with just two hundred being reported. The motive for the attack was a bombing attack in Thessalonica in the house of kemal , which was later revealed to have been planned and executed by the Turkish government .
      Let's not talk about the Pontiac GENOCIDE , where for instance in the city of Samsus half of a total of 700 thousand residents were mercilessly killed by the the turks , and in which more that a million were brutally chased down , essentially cleansing the area of its Greek element.
      These are our "friends" , the turks . They hope that we forget about their crimes , but there is no forgetting !

  • @michaelharrington1248
    @michaelharrington1248 4 года назад +54

    They should get the same treatment as ethnic minority's in turkey won't be all talk then would they

    • @Kristov818
      @Kristov818 4 года назад +7

      everyone needs to bring up the fact that “turks” are just the product of forced turkification

    • @Cex-ev6be
      @Cex-ev6be 4 года назад

      Kristov818 so are “greeks” and many other people’s. They were just turkified 1000 years after they were greekified.

    • @Kristov818
      @Kristov818 4 года назад +1

      Ce5x37788 8 yes greeks still exist as greeks so no point of forced turkification

  • @frozenglaicericet-pose6104
    @frozenglaicericet-pose6104 4 года назад +35

    It's pretty obvious that Al Jazeera isn't neutral on the issue

    • @anotheraccount3210
      @anotheraccount3210 3 года назад +1

      @Tommiii uncircumcised i didnt know islamophobes could talk

    • @anotheraccount3210
      @anotheraccount3210 3 года назад +1

      @Tommiii uncircumcised now youre being a turcophobe

    • @jorgepeters7474
      @jorgepeters7474 Год назад +3

      That is so right.This is a pure turkish propaganda.

  • @Andrew-qy1kz
    @Andrew-qy1kz 4 года назад +65

    Listen to 23:09 the narrator mentions the 29th of April 2020 and that turkey not being able to cope with the refugee entering from Syria ,Turkey opening its land border to Greece.....umm was this filmed in the future or something? Bad reporting and incorrect information. Back to future ?

    • @devacalis7380
      @devacalis7380 4 года назад

      eisai asteios.

    • @caravos
      @caravos 4 года назад +4

      The given propaganda paper was not clear. Or the commentator is a robot and can't even think that the date is in future. Anyway the message was sent and the job done

    • @hipocresia
      @hipocresia 2 года назад

      Hahaha very few people noticed that

    • @grinchspoiler2956
      @grinchspoiler2956 4 месяца назад

      @@devacalis7380 kai esy geloios.

  • @milosdragicevic9133
    @milosdragicevic9133 4 года назад +52

    This video is fake.Population in region of Thrakia (Xanthi, Komotini) have one ethnic group, Greeks call him "Pomaki", he spoke Greeks but origin is not Turkish.Pomaki use all human rights like Greek Ortodox population.Why All Jazeera didn't present to world whats hapend with Greek population in Turkey 1922.? In region Kapadokia,Konstantinopoli, Smyrna,Pontos, Mikri Asia... was genocid against Greek civils.Greece belong to brave Greek people, our ortodox brothers.Strong suport for Greece from Serbia.

    • @tanrnnkuzusu1359
      @tanrnnkuzusu1359 4 года назад +5

      But people in this video is turkish

    • @giwrgosk1204
      @giwrgosk1204 4 года назад +1

      Thank you man for saying it out loud! I appreciate it. God bless!

    • @dgenchevski6882
      @dgenchevski6882 4 года назад +2

      Pomaki are ethnical bulgarians who were forced to accept islam !

    • @yusuf3005
      @yusuf3005 2 года назад

      Bu insanlar biz Türküz diyorlar. Onlara zorla başka etnik kimlik dayatmaktan vazgeçin

    • @yusuf3005
      @yusuf3005 8 месяцев назад

      Bu videoda gördüğünüz insanlar Türkçe konuşuyor ve Türk olduklarını söylüyorlar. Aloo duydun mu hacitakis

  • @ge0rgi0
    @ge0rgi0 4 года назад +36

    Before any question these people should be asked:
    Do they recognize the pontic & armenian genocide? Do they condemn the turkish state for racist crimes against humanity and against minorities?
    Secondly, what is the quality of life in turkey compared to greece? a lot worse, low income, low education, far behind the EU Greece...

  • @kimkim-ng7wb
    @kimkim-ng7wb 4 года назад +87

    Please Al-Jazeera made documentry on labour in Qatar...

    • @ashishrawat4089
      @ashishrawat4089 4 года назад +15

      they are hypocrite

    • @manthosmilis2066
      @manthosmilis2066 4 года назад +17

      Also a good documentary would be on human rights in Islam...

    • @drewblackmatter6669
      @drewblackmatter6669 4 года назад

      @@ashishrawat4089 you are Nobody only 0,01dinar

    • @ashishrawat4089
      @ashishrawat4089 4 года назад +1

      @@drewblackmatter6669 hehehe we are 10 times bigger than u and we do not use dinar

    • @user-bx2ku3ic4k
      @user-bx2ku3ic4k 4 года назад

      Qatar respects more the rights of foreign workers then uae, Saudi Arabia and bahrein.

  • @ntinosat2634
    @ntinosat2634 2 года назад +37

    I would recommend a video to be made about the thousands of Greeks who were forced to evacuate Eastern Thrace in 1922. And also another one about the violence that Greeks of Constantinople suffered in 1955.

    • @hayal6539
      @hayal6539 2 года назад +3

      Whataboutism at its finest. Two wrongs don't make a right.

    • @levesd3722
      @levesd3722 2 года назад +1

      @@hayal6539 Who cares about 'right' anymore?

    • @TnRsPower
      @TnRsPower 2 года назад

      İs this true ? Why then whem We check the population status in Wikipedia, it says that 88% of Thrace was turks before 1915 ? Why you blame Turkey ? You win at balkana because of France, the islands because of Italians. You thought that Makedonia Thrace Crete Cuprus the islands are yours amd you killed thousands of turks that were lived there to take back this places. So stop blaming turkish people. War is war. İf you choose the war your people will die too. Not only yout soldiers. So think twice before act like hercule and call for a war or racistic ideas.

    • @levesd3722
      @levesd3722 Год назад +1

      @@TnRsPower Of course war is war but thanks to you we have learned a few things about it.

    • @riton349
      @riton349 Год назад +1

      It's 2023 btw.

  • @almosthappy79
    @almosthappy79 4 года назад +134

    Joseph Goebbels would be proud of this.

    • @orthodoxtruth1999
      @orthodoxtruth1999 4 года назад +26

      This video is propaganda

    • @reflexionofme
      @reflexionofme 3 года назад +20

      Hitler copies Turkish genociders, he was laughing in one of his speeches that the Armenian issue has been taken care of. Erdogan copies Hitler.

    • @drinkdrunk1632
      @drinkdrunk1632 3 года назад

      @@orthodoxtruth1999 Those people have suffered and we just see what neonazis and the corupt police have done to them with proofs and testimonials and yet you deny instead of take the responsibility and fix it. How pathetic.

    • @ΑθανάσιοςΚΥΡΙΑΚΟΠΟΥΛΟΣ-θ7γ
      @ΑθανάσιοςΚΥΡΙΑΚΟΠΟΥΛΟΣ-θ7γ 3 года назад

      Kemal Ataturk would be more proud of Cengiz

    • @levesd3722
      @levesd3722 3 года назад

      @Cansu Джансу nope, it's not.

  • @simonconroy2045
    @simonconroy2045 3 года назад +25

    The Greeks and Armenians were expelled and killed off from their native towns and villages in Anatolia. There is a difference between wanting to preserve culture and language and strong political allegiance to a state which is regularly threatening to attack Greece and has recently invaded parts of that state. Al Jazeera are clearly reporting with an agenda here

    • @levesd3722
      @levesd3722 Год назад

      @@KaanBeskardes This shows only a ridiculous side.

    • @bakrdemir8656
      @bakrdemir8656 Год назад

      if u touch the turks in west trakya remmeber 1974

  • @napalm-gr
    @napalm-gr 4 года назад +56

    Hahahaha pure turkish propaganda against greece after the humiliation at the borders.Turkish ladies stop crying😂

  • @TartarusPyro
    @TartarusPyro 4 года назад +41

    17:52 we lived in anatolia for 1500 years byzantine empire before it fell so thats means its ours also? hmmm

    • @Paulynyc
      @Paulynyc 3 года назад +13

      @@ismailtunacan2197 So you're about religious freedom, right? Tell me then, when is Turkey going to reopen the Halki Theological Seminary? When can a Christian service be held again in Aghia Sophia??

    • @YTYY
      @YTYY 3 года назад

      LIVED ans LIVE is different

    • @grinchspoiler2956
      @grinchspoiler2956 3 года назад

      @@YTYY Not that much.

    • @YTYY
      @YTYY 3 года назад

      @@grinchspoiler2956 it is in 1500 there was no human rights but now greece claims to be a "democratic free place" while doing this stuff.

    • @grinchspoiler2956
      @grinchspoiler2956 3 года назад

      @@YTYY True, maybe we should scrap the whole 'democratic free place' then, it has proven to be a failure after all.

  • @pits.893
    @pits.893 3 года назад +39

    I've visited friends in western Thrace but it didn't feel that Orwellian as it is described, nothing close to that. But I am a Greek so I don't doubt the different experience a Turk or pomak might have in the region

    • @Smail345
      @Smail345 3 года назад +9

      We Pomak people speak Bulgarian ! Why do they lie we are Turkish?

    • @pits.893
      @pits.893 3 года назад +2

      @@Smail345 I don't know. I've met pomaks who claimed to be turkish and I've also met pomaks who claim to be pomaks

    • @Smail345
      @Smail345 3 года назад +2

      @@pits.893 Now you met one who says the truth! We are Bulgarian! We speak the same language. Turkey and Greece brainwashed us to think we are different

    • @pits.893
      @pits.893 3 года назад +1

      @@Smail345 Yeah I don't really care enough about the Pomaks to really ask them. If some say that they are Turks. Then they are Turks

    • @pits.893
      @pits.893 3 года назад

      @@Al-nt7jw There are a lot of pomaks who disagree with you

  • @ektorpolykandriotis635
    @ektorpolykandriotis635 4 года назад +30

    There is no ethnic Turkish minority in Thrace. The Turks have signed that in the treaty of Lausanne and multiple anthropologists have provided evidence that the Pomaks are indigenous people tracing their roοts thousand yrs before Turkish tribes showed up in Asia Minor, let alone Europe and Greece. During the Ottoman (Turkish) occupation of Thrace there were forced conversions to Islam in some cases, in some other cases conversions of convenience aimed to protect their first-born sons from forced conscriptions and their daughters from the harems of lustful Ottoman rulers. In some cases, they were conversions of convenience to avoid taxation and to gain a social advantage. The actress Rita Wilson traces her roots to the Pomac community of Thrace and proudly pronounces that her background is Greek. Her husband received Greek citizenship recently.

    • @tanrnnkuzusu1359
      @tanrnnkuzusu1359 4 года назад +5

      There is ethnic turks in greece, not just pomaks.

    • @blackadder6897
      @blackadder6897 4 года назад

      @@ismailtunacan2197 Prove it.

    • @blackadder6897
      @blackadder6897 4 года назад +1

      @Selo Oles Ataturk was gay. A fisherman from Lagadas near Thessaloniki used to f@ck him when he was young.

    • @mehmetozturk6249
      @mehmetozturk6249 2 года назад

      Dude the treaty of lausanne is said that except western thrace turks and istanbul rums all their own minorities will be moved to their homeland

    • @ektorpolykandriotis635
      @ektorpolykandriotis635 2 года назад

      @@mehmetozturk6249 read the document. Then ask whoever lied to you why are they making an accomplice to a genocide out of you.

  • @NemesisHD
    @NemesisHD 4 года назад +22

    Τhe only contested space is Constantinople :)

  • @ΛΕΩΝΙΔΑΣΔΑΛΛΑΣ
    @ΛΕΩΝΙΔΑΣΔΑΛΛΑΣ 2 года назад +6

    The Greek minority in Turkey has desapeared in 100 years. The Turkish minority is still in Greece free and happy. Otherwise they would have left to live in Turkey 30 Km away. But nobody wants to live in Turkey. On the contrary. Many thousands of Turks have escaped from Turkey in the last 10 years and now live free and happy in Greece as political refusees. The Turkish-Greeks are equal and very respected by us, the other Greeks.

    • @mithridatesi9981
      @mithridatesi9981 Год назад

      The Greeks didn't disappeared in Asia Minor. They got assimilated to Turks. The Turks in the northern part of Greece, are genetically mixed with Balkan and Greek people. We are the same people at the end. We should stop war

    • @dkgamers1385
      @dkgamers1385 Год назад +3

      ​@@mithridatesi9981 my great grandparents werent assimilated and so did another 2 million greeks who still lived there until 1923 when they were kicked. My great great grandfather got beaten up in the death camps and was a legit genocide survivor so don't you tell me about peaceful assimilation because you are desecrating his memory. Most did assimilate "peacefully" but a significant minority of 2 million never did.

    • @bakrdemir8656
      @bakrdemir8656 Год назад

      if u touch the turks in west trakya remmeber 1974

    • @levesd3722
      @levesd3722 Год назад

      and if you want to help them you'll remember 1912

  • @vassilisioannou5488
    @vassilisioannou5488 3 года назад +44

    why don't you do a documentary of the 200 thousand Greeks of Istanbul in the 1920's until today, were there are 200 left.

    • @andreasgeorgopoulos3878
      @andreasgeorgopoulos3878 3 года назад +9

      Exactly they want to talk about Greece but they forget they forced millions of Greeks to leave their home in istanbul and all over Anatolia

    • @_berat.ugur_3089
      @_berat.ugur_3089 3 года назад +1

      So why are the reports of Turks martyred in Cyprus not made?

    • @_berat.ugur_3089
      @_berat.ugur_3089 3 года назад

      @@andreasgeorgopoulos3878 or the Armenian genocide and massacres committed by the eastern novel?

    • @vassilisioannou5488
      @vassilisioannou5488 3 года назад +1

      @@_berat.ugur_3089 we would not know about your lala land tails kid, we living in the real world.

    • @cherio1137
      @cherio1137 3 года назад +3

      Similarly, why not make another one about all those young cypriot women who were raped by the ‘heroic’ mehmecik in 1974? Or about the cypriot prisoners who were executed after they were already captured or surrendered?
      History is two sided my friend..not one sided. Remember that

  • @Kristov818
    @Kristov818 4 года назад +51

    funny how none of these “turks” look like turkic people, forced turkification of greeks

    • @Cex-ev6be
      @Cex-ev6be 4 года назад +17

      Kristov818 barely anyone in Turkey looks turkic. There are more ethnic greeks in turkey than there are greeks in Greece. Probably double. Turkey was a multicultural and multiethnic empire like anerica for 700 years, and turks from Asia were mixed with Europeans even long before that.
      Edit: “Greeks” are also just forced hellenification of sumerians and lidians and hittites according to your logic.
      I am turkish AND I am a geneticist. I can tell you that our genetics are a mix of Europe, Central Asia, Western Asia, and native Anatolian

    • @christermi
      @christermi 4 года назад +3

      @@Cex-ev6be well , you're not wrong

    • @Cex-ev6be
      @Cex-ev6be 4 года назад +5

      Christermi Christos thank you bro I also love Greece and have been there many times. My grandfather is from greece

    • @aslanats3256
      @aslanats3256 4 года назад

      Ce5x37788 8 siz bizi satmaga devam edin biz sizi abi bileriz bati trakya turklerini satin sevin bu rumlari bakalim

    • @Cex-ev6be
      @Cex-ev6be 4 года назад +1

      spartan 32 yanlis anladin kardesim ben ankaraliyim kimseyi satmiyorum. Burdaki sacma sapan yorum yapan cahil yunanlilara tarih ogretiyorum

  • @peterpakos1936
    @peterpakos1936 4 года назад +31

    Total rubbish and false facts! Shame on the reporters.

  • @NikosPer
    @NikosPer 4 года назад +34

    You want to be a Turk? no problem....go to Turkey , its big enough to feed you all. Dont forget to take your ethics with you

    • @incredistibidilite8179
      @incredistibidilite8179 4 года назад +14

      You Greeks are too racist and that comment is proof of that documentary

    • @NikosPer
      @NikosPer 4 года назад +13

      @@incredistibidilite8179 you have created problems before and you will create again thats your nature and your gift to humanity. Its not racism its called History.

    • @incredistibidilite8179
      @incredistibidilite8179 4 года назад +8

      @@NikosPer So is your gift to make discrimination and "history" under the racism?

    • @calikusukusu4499
      @calikusukusu4499 4 года назад +7

      Nios Per As a Turkish Minority member in Western Thrace we are growing up without ethnic toxicity, respecting not only human rights but also animal rights. You are what you feel. DENIAL OF IDENTITY IS A CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY.

    • @patriciafairey542
      @patriciafairey542 4 года назад +2

      @@calikusukusu4499 Do you eat animals?

  • @nikim5051
    @nikim5051 4 года назад +22

    Greece Europe’s only country where Islamic jurists still hold sway.
    (Sharia law)
    In a move described as a “historic step” by the prime minister, Alexis Tsipras, announced that members of Greece’s 120,000-strong Muslim community would be able to seek recourse in Greek courts in divorce, child custody and inheritance matters rather than take their case to Islamic jurists - a century-old legacy of legislation drafted with the collapse of the Ottoman empire.
    Human rights groups have long said the laws discriminate against women. The disgruntled Mufti in the video imposed Sharia law on the Turkish community and to the detriment of women. Greek state reinstated the democratic rights to the minority without a voice!

  • @stephenchappell7512
    @stephenchappell7512 3 года назад +37

    Let's get some perspective
    Why don't we compare Turks living in Greece with Greeks living in Turkey???
    I think that answers that!!

    • @egeonal6274
      @egeonal6274 3 года назад +9

      Greeks and Armenians in Turkey choose their religious leaders themselves, government dont choose for them unlike Greece

    • @YTYY
      @YTYY 3 года назад

      there are 4000 greeks in Turkey. All of them have churches (200 churches in Turkey actually)

    • @levesd3722
      @levesd3722 3 года назад +6

      @@egeonal6274 No, they just kicked out the majority of them ;-)

    • @KnowDude
      @KnowDude 3 года назад +4

      Whataboutism

    • @levesd3722
      @levesd3722 3 года назад +4

      @@KnowDude erdoganism XD

  • @CheCosaTesoro
    @CheCosaTesoro 4 года назад +29

    150k only. Well they can go and live in Turkey. Just move, it's just over the border. How is it a burden. People move all over Europe by the thousands every year.

    • @christermi
      @christermi 4 года назад +8

      Don't fall for this lie . There is a muslim minority in the region , in which only a small part consists of ethnic turks .

    • @runningtheworldGR
      @runningtheworldGR 4 года назад +4

      Do you know what is Lausanne Treaty and why Greece signed it??? Let's have a research don't fall directly.

    • @christermi
      @christermi 4 года назад +3

      @@runningtheworldGR I don't think we are talking about the same thing.

    • @CheCosaTesoro
      @CheCosaTesoro 4 года назад +6

      @@christermi that's the point. If the minority is so small and not happy then why not simply move over the border. No matter which country one lives in, your focus should be on that country. If they want to be Turks first then live in Turkey. It's right there.

    • @CheCosaTesoro
      @CheCosaTesoro 4 года назад +1

      @@christermi but it doesn't bother me. The story is about Turks not happy in Greece.

  • @guskaparos9349
    @guskaparos9349 4 года назад +28

    Ridiculous if you’re going to live in Greece then assimilate to the Greek way of doing things. If Turkish people want Turkish schools then go back to Turkey otherwise learn Greek.

    • @guskaparos9349
      @guskaparos9349 4 года назад +8

      Macedonia is Greece and always has been part of Greece

    • @guskaparos9349
      @guskaparos9349 4 года назад +3

      Arthur Valkan Macedonia is Greece and has always been part of Greece it belongs to Greece. This is what happens when you let people in to Greece they feel that they can change the genealogy by fraudulent claiming it’s their land.

    • @guskaparos9349
      @guskaparos9349 4 года назад +3

      Arthur Valkan Together with Thrace, and sometimes also Thessaly and Epirus, it is part of Northern Greece. Greek Macedonia encompasses entirely the southern part of the region of Macedonia, making up 51% of the total area of the region. It also contains Mount Athos, an autonomous monastic region of Greece.

    • @christermi
      @christermi 4 года назад +3

      @Arthur Valkan how do you expect someone to take you seriously, if you continue propagandizing, coming in contrast with historical truths and demographics ? Get your facts straight and stop spreading lies everywhere .

    • @nikim5051
      @nikim5051 4 года назад +7

      @Arthur Valkan The truth is North Macedonians are descendants of Bulgaria a breakaway tribe that joined the kingdom of Serbia and later the Kingdom of Yugoslavia. .North Macedonians were part of the Ottoman empire way longer than Greece. In less than 100 years they have continued to rename and reinvent themselves from Bulgarians to Vardar, Vardar Banavina, to Yugoslavia, the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia and now Northern Macedonian. Fact , you are one confused nation!!

  • @cooolaros
    @cooolaros 4 года назад +23

    Erdogan and Qatar style journalism with Oxford accent: 25 min rife of lies and cheap turkish propaganda directly from the Turkish consultate of Komotini.
    My Pomak and Roma friends are betting how much it cost all this...

    • @Smail345
      @Smail345 3 года назад +3

      I am also Pomak and we similar to North Macedonian forgot about our roots and we are actually Bulgarians! Meet your brothers and sisters in Bulgarian part of Rhodopies and see yourself! I have been living in a village close to Xanti and when I went to Bulgaria to see I knew we are the same! We are Bulgarians! It is sad to see how religion separated us from our true identity!

  • @jjgreek1
    @jjgreek1 7 месяцев назад +3

    The story is what happened to the Greeks of Imvros? Tenedos, Istanbul? They were raped, discriminated against, their properties seized, they’ve lost their jobs, and ultimately they were kicked out - all against the Lausanne Treaty.

  • @Smail345
    @Smail345 3 года назад +18

    I am also Pomak and we similar to North Macedonian forgot about our roots and we are actually Bulgarians! Meet your brothers and sisters in Bulgarian part of Rhodopies and see yourself! I have been living in a village close to Xanti and when I went to Bulgaria to see I knew we are the same! We are Bulgarians! It is sad to see how religion separated us from our true identity!

    • @levesd3722
      @levesd3722 3 года назад +3

      You are correct but those in FYROM would call you a liar.

    • @Smail345
      @Smail345 3 года назад +1

      @@levesd3722 This in Xanti as well! But some people can see the truth

    • @levesd3722
      @levesd3722 3 года назад +1

      @@Smail345 Of course and I support your claim 100%.

    • @kirschitz64
      @kirschitz64 2 года назад +3

      It's Serbia and Yugoslavia's fault. They created this identity from thin air to make you think you weren't Bulgarians and so Bulgaria would have no claim to the area.
      Just like what Russia did to Moldova..

  • @kostasdimitrelis1432
    @kostasdimitrelis1432 4 года назад +16

    There is no ethnic Turkish minority in Thrace. The Turks have signed that in the treaty of Lausanne and multiple anthropologists have provided evidence that the Pomacs are indigenous people tracing their routs thousand yrs before Turkic tribes showed up in Asia Minor, let alone Europe and Greece. During the Ottoman (Turkish) occupation of Thrace there were forced conversions to Islam in some cases, in some other cases conversions of convenience aimed to protect their first born sons from forced conscription and their daughters from the harems of lustful Ottoman rulers. In some cases they were conversions of convenience to avoid taxation and to gain a social advantage. The actress Rita Wilson traces her routs from the Pomac community of Thrace and proudly pronounces that her background is Greek. Her husband received Greek citizenship recently.

    • @tanrnnkuzusu1359
      @tanrnnkuzusu1359 4 года назад +6

      There is ethnic turks in west thrace

    • @kostasdimitrelis1432
      @kostasdimitrelis1432 4 года назад +8

      @@tanrnnkuzusu1359 whoever feels as a Turk, is free to go and live in his motherland Turkey!

    • @hy8606
      @hy8606 3 года назад

      Greek propaganda

    • @grinchspoiler2956
      @grinchspoiler2956 3 года назад

      @@hy8606 Sorry, next time go and listen to Erdogan's propaganda. lol

    • @yusuf3005
      @yusuf3005 2 года назад

      @@kostasdimitrelis1432 Evet onlar kendilerini Türk olarak ifade ediyorlar. Başınızı ağrıtan şey budur.

  • @chrisstamatis3570
    @chrisstamatis3570 4 года назад +22

    Stop spreading Turkish propaganda

  • @ioannisperiptero9626
    @ioannisperiptero9626 4 года назад +13

    Now go and have a report on the 20 MILLION KURDS IN TURKEY !!!

    • @aslanats3256
      @aslanats3256 4 года назад +1

      Is this the final number? 😂 lets say 79 million kurds live in turkey 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 hahahahahaha omg 😱 20 m kurd hahahahahahahaha 🤪🤪😅

    • @ioannisperiptero9626
      @ioannisperiptero9626 4 года назад +1

      @Salih Kaan maybe less ....😂😂😂

    • @sopto1376
      @sopto1376 4 года назад

      yeah and what? They are living here normally if you dont believe me you can come and check for yourself they are very nice and welcoming people?

    • @ioannisperiptero9626
      @ioannisperiptero9626 4 года назад

      @sopto lol they are fighting for independence...

  • @PocketRocketATH
    @PocketRocketATH 4 года назад +23

    Nice propaganda movie from qatar sponsored by turkey xD ..."land siezed by the state" ...how are you saying these things? Thank god greece is a free counrty and doesn't send the journalists in prison like turkey does xD..

    • @rkntuessday-3485
      @rkntuessday-3485 4 года назад

      FACIST GREEKS!!! WEST THRACE BELONGS TO TURKEY!!!!

    • @PocketRocketATH
      @PocketRocketATH 4 года назад

      @@rkntuessday-3485 try getting through leopard 2a6 to get it back

    • @cheetahgamer8588
      @cheetahgamer8588 4 года назад

      @@rkntuessday-3485 just like Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus belongs to Republic of Cyprus

    • @rkntuessday-3485
      @rkntuessday-3485 4 года назад

      @@PocketRocketATH HAHAHAHAHAH DO YOU WANNA GO BACK TO SLAVERY SIRTAKI HEAD

    • @rkntuessday-3485
      @rkntuessday-3485 4 года назад

      @@cheetahgamer8588 KIBRIS TURKTUR TURK KALACAKTIR

  • @thrylos7632
    @thrylos7632 3 года назад +14

    One way infromation as always.. They live in Greece and should respect the Greek rules, norms and values. If they wanna live under turkish flag and rules then go to turkey..

    • @kizilhan6178
      @kizilhan6178 3 года назад +6

      well, then minorities in Turkey should respect the Turkish rules, norms and values right?

    • @thrylos7632
      @thrylos7632 3 года назад +5

      @@kizilhan6178 ofcourse! For everyone that does not respect the norms and values of the country it should leave and go to the country of their roots

    • @hikmetfb1396
      @hikmetfb1396 3 года назад

      free West throce...

    • @Emerty1
      @Emerty1 3 года назад +1

      Incredibly stupid response. These people have been living there for 600 years. This kind of discrimination in 2021 just shows how barbaric and backwards the Greek governing bodies really are. If you feel this threatened, cede Western Thrace back to Turkey.

    • @grinchspoiler2956
      @grinchspoiler2956 3 года назад

      @@Emerty1 So what? It is easier to tell them to move to Turkey. After all they are not needed.

  • @inidrinidr2067
    @inidrinidr2067 4 года назад +11

    Xmmmm....how far away is Qatar?.......how are human rights..in Qatar ?........is a democratic country..??..or Turkey is a democratic country..???..well money dont make truth....

  • @viridesi7684
    @viridesi7684 4 года назад +18

    5:06 „Turkish speaking school“ no one wants to assimilate anymore very sad.

    • @rogerdodger8813
      @rogerdodger8813 3 года назад +6

      You can have a Greek school with a Greek Curriculum and Turkish Language Programs . Easy. But Turkey will use them to push their agenda!

    • @levesd3722
      @levesd3722 3 года назад

      @@rogerdodger8813 Indeed, so it's better for them to have nothing.

  • @ww2expertchannel343
    @ww2expertchannel343 2 года назад +15

    Funny thing is, many of these culturally Turkish people have anatolian Greek ancestry.

    • @yusuf3005
      @yusuf3005 8 месяцев назад

      Bu insanlar Türk olduklarını söylüyorlar. Hayır değilsiniz Hayır değilsiniz diyorsunuz. Ne kadar aksini iddia etseniz de onlar Türkler ve öyle hissediyorlar.

    • @StekTM1
      @StekTM1 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@yusuf3005 Then wtf are they complaining about? They should thank Greece for allowing then to have Mustafa Kemal portraits in their communities

  • @evgenis1378
    @evgenis1378 4 года назад +17

    Please do some historical research before you post something, Al Jashitra

  • @ge0rgi0
    @ge0rgi0 4 года назад +24

    Someone teach Al Çadir about Pontic and Armenian genocide

  • @KevinFlynn_
    @KevinFlynn_ 4 года назад +36

    They can leave if they want bye-bye

    • @Cex-ev6be
      @Cex-ev6be 4 года назад +1

      texnikos1 they probably would if they had the economic opportunity

    • @whitegptjet
      @whitegptjet 4 года назад +6

      @@Cex-ev6be No they would not and i know a lot of rich people who they still chose Greece over Turkey. As a Turk living in Western Thrace i would never go and live in Turkey. I was born here, like all my family members and ancestors. My grandpa fought with this country and i love Greece. I also love Turkey as a country but hate both sides on the political side.

    • @metaxist
      @metaxist 4 года назад +1

      @@whitegptjet this in not political my friend its an agenda , from the lausanne agreement there was a population exchange Turks went to Turkey and Greeks living on East Thrace and asia minor came here , my familly is from a village that is destroyed near the today borders at Didimotiho.

    • @Cex-ev6be
      @Cex-ev6be 4 года назад +2

      G is for Gaming good for you man I’m from turkey and I love it too, have been to Greece many times also take care we are lucky to live in beautiful countries :)

    • @calikusukusu4499
      @calikusukusu4499 4 года назад +1

      @@whitegptjet it is our land and it is our wright to live here in Western Thrace. All we ask from Greek goverments to STOP discrimination and assimulation of the Turkish Minority.

  • @ΘωμαςΛιλιοπουλος-π1π
    @ΘωμαςΛιλιοπουλος-π1π 4 года назад +17

    I live there..unfortunately turks have big problem to express them selfs..greeks don't know history and they can't stand that we have turks in thrace..I have too many turks friends here andthey are really kind.

    • @ddpmk355
      @ddpmk355 4 года назад +3

      In fact they can be whatever they want. Just keep it to themselves.

    • @ddpmk355
      @ddpmk355 4 года назад +3

      ISMAIL TUNA CAN Your problem. 😁

    • @rogerdodger8813
      @rogerdodger8813 3 года назад

      why can't they express themselves???

    • @milliyetci5672
      @milliyetci5672 3 года назад +3

      @@rogerdodger8813 The Greek Govt says that they are Greek muslim, not Turk..... They ban Turkish language school, The greek Govt direct appointed imam (muslim religious leader) in the mosque who tends to be puppet of the Govt...
      The same thing happened in Bulgaria during the communist rule 1980's.... They forced Turks in Bulgaria who are 10% of the population to adopted Slavic name... They ban turkish name, turkish school... Muslim couldn't practice religious feely that time....

    • @grinchspoiler2956
      @grinchspoiler2956 3 года назад

      yeah right we believe your fake profile...NOT XD

  • @Smail345
    @Smail345 3 года назад +8

    As a Pomak I know the struggle for identity but if I am honest Pomak people are Bulgarian! We just forgot about it all!

    • @darkblackexodus
      @darkblackexodus 3 года назад +2

      No way! Pomaks are not Bulgarian or Greek or Turkish as well!

    • @levesd3722
      @levesd3722 2 года назад

      @@darkblackexodus What are they then?

    • @darkblackexodus
      @darkblackexodus 2 года назад +1

      @@levesd3722 nobody exactly knows! They are generally Muslim but speak a mix of Bulgarian and Turkish.

    • @levesd3722
      @levesd3722 2 года назад

      @@darkblackexodus I have heard that Pomaks are turkified Bulgarians.

    • @darkblackexodus
      @darkblackexodus 2 года назад

      @@levesd3722 according to another claim; Bulgarians are a Turkic clan like Gagauz and slavicified during the years. All Balkan nations have a claim on Pomaks, interesting...

  • @ComputerM4n
    @ComputerM4n 4 года назад +9

    Just by reading the title and description one can tell that the creators of this video are clearly preoccupied
    as the title is already mentioning "The Turks of northeast Greece" and going even further, just by reading the description
    one can tell that is ironic and tries to make fun of the fact that Ancient Greece was the birthplace of democracy on top of that it implies
    that Greece needs democracy lessons.
    According to the description filmmaker Glenn Ellis was sent to investigate.
    Wouldn't it be wise for him to first read about the Treaty of Lausanne before doing so?
    One can easily find and i am simply pasting from Wikipedia:
    "this major compulsory population exchange, or agreed mutual expulsion,
    was based not on language or ethnicity, but upon religious identity"
    This means that the criteria for this population exchange,
    was only based on religion and thats why we are talking about Muslim minority of Greece
    instead of Turkish minority. Correct me if i am wrong.
    Finally i want to say that yes we are not perfect and we are not saints,
    and indeed this minority and also others has faced racism or discrimination at some point in their life.
    But then again tell me about one Country that has erased all racism and discrimination.
    This is another topic for discussion.

  • @jannisjohannes8418
    @jannisjohannes8418 4 года назад +12

    These people are not Turks. Either you have to employ someone who knows history or stop taking money from the real Turks. So simple..

    • @tanrnnkuzusu1359
      @tanrnnkuzusu1359 4 года назад +1

      These People clearly look Turks

    • @JohnDoe-zb5mt
      @JohnDoe-zb5mt 4 года назад +4

      @@tanrnnkuzusu1359 They are pomaks. They were categorized as turks during the junta due to predjudice, but they are an entirely different people

    • @Terekeme1
      @Terekeme1 4 года назад +1

      John Doe pomaks are turks also

    • @JohnDoe-zb5mt
      @JohnDoe-zb5mt 4 года назад +2

      @@Terekeme1 No. They are an entirely different people. Thats like saying bosniaks living in bosnia are turks. Granted, there are some actual turks that live in greece that were not displaced during the population exchange with turkey. Unlike turkey, greece didn't force the turks to convert and speak greek

    • @neotrnty4717
      @neotrnty4717 Год назад

      NE MUTLU TURKUM DIYENE

  • @10peter1992
    @10peter1992 4 года назад +13

    Really Al Jazeera? Contested by whom? Is there a status quo that needs to be settled that I don't know of? The area you are reporting on is Greek territory. period.
    My guess is that's the start of another Turkish war expedition....

    • @hy8606
      @hy8606 3 года назад

      It remains so, but if Greece were to try to ethnically cleanse like in Cyprus, you bet the Turks would start another war.

    • @grinchspoiler2956
      @grinchspoiler2956 3 года назад

      @@hy8606 That's the whole point for having that minority there. They are guarantees against a war.

  • @marykaf3558
    @marykaf3558 4 года назад +10

    this whole video is so one sided and doesnt include the mass extermination of greek minority in smyrna in 1922

  • @mariakoutromanos8232
    @mariakoutromanos8232 4 года назад +19

    Thrace belongs to Greece and not to the Turks as she states .

    • @georgekoutromanos4667
      @georgekoutromanos4667 4 года назад +1

      you are first koutromanos i have seen outside of my family!

    • @mariakoutromanos8232
      @mariakoutromanos8232 4 года назад +1

      George Koutromanos which country you in

    • @mariakoutromanos8232
      @mariakoutromanos8232 4 года назад +2

      George Koutromanos Hi George we obviously Greek but we don’t live in Greece, are you in Greece or in another country?

    • @georgekoutromanos4667
      @georgekoutromanos4667 4 года назад

      @@mariakoutromanos8232 my parents are from agrafa but now we live in the USA

    • @mariakoutromanos8232
      @mariakoutromanos8232 4 года назад +1

      George Koutromanos no way did you have an uncle Thanasi?

  • @pantheon56
    @pantheon56 4 месяца назад +1

    It's funny how these muslim Greek citizens born and growing up in Greece decided or were forced to speak Turkish in front of the camera !!!
    I suppose they can immigrate to Turkey if find it impossible to live in an EU country as EU citizens!!!

  • @thanosroussos4179
    @thanosroussos4179 3 года назад +11

    This is an example of how you cultivate hatred and wars by spreading misinformation

  • @MrNkoly0600973
    @MrNkoly0600973 4 года назад +8

    Did not ask a a single question to a Christian or Muslim having institutional role regarding your view, no mention of the positive meausures Greek government take for muslim Greeks, no mention of the thousands of years integration of Thrace to the Greek world, no mention about Pomaks and Roma living at Thrace. Instead you choose to present opinions of those known for their role like the president of DEB and her colleague from Germany and Turk mufti Imbraim Serif ??? also as far as i know and if anyone knows otherwise pls correct me no minority muslim member was ever hurt by Golden Dawn at Thrace.

    • @vv-raptor
      @vv-raptor 2 года назад

      There are not muslim Greeks canım, there are Turks and yes muslim

    • @MrNkoly0600973
      @MrNkoly0600973 2 года назад

      please elaborate, otherwise this is just a statement

    • @vv-raptor
      @vv-raptor 2 года назад +1

      @@MrNkoly0600973 Elaborate what are you kidding me? They say and claim that “they are Turkish” they are speaking exactly the same Turkish of Istanbul. Everywhere in their houses and offices the statement of Atatürk “proud to be Turkish” is published. They are talking about the cultural assimilation you are training to do.
      Hey don’t lie to yourself bro, you know better than me what their are haha and that the reason why you are hating them (not bc they are muslim, but bc there are proud to be TURKS)

    • @levesd3722
      @levesd3722 2 года назад

      @@vv-raptor So? If they don't like it they can leave.

    • @vv-raptor
      @vv-raptor 2 года назад

      @@levesd3722 We want and take the province of the entire Greece back!
      After annexion if you don’t like it, you can leave

  • @roshantweerasinghe9866
    @roshantweerasinghe9866 Год назад +3

    What about Greece 🇬🇷 Genocide by Turkey 🇹🇷.

    • @Hadrianus_Olympius
      @Hadrianus_Olympius Год назад +2

      and the Turkish occupation in the northern part of Cyprus.

  • @AndreasGeorgoglou
    @AndreasGeorgoglou 7 месяцев назад +3

    And furthermore you don't live in turkey ! You live in GREECE. If you want to have Turkish school and Turkish flags go the border is not far

  • @jamesm7486
    @jamesm7486 5 месяцев назад

    Would love a report on the 2,500 "Ethnic Greeks" living in Turkey.

  • @ΒασίλειοςΜαυρομμάτης-π2ψ

    I found the reportage quite biased against Greece. Too many stretches, lies, omissions, even the fact that the Bayezid is the oldest in Europe is inaccurate; Spain has by far the oldest mosques in Europe. The reporter from Millet is often connected with Erdogan, the facts about the greek reality with long court waiting, overzealous police and big classes are omitted. Just few points among many more.

  • @lavadodinero
    @lavadodinero 4 года назад +35

    Trust that the amount received for that journalistic carbidge was satisfactory. The sensitivity of the slave traders of Ankara for human beings is globally known.

  • @StaRMaestroS
    @StaRMaestroS 4 года назад +19

    How dare you presume what indigenous people identify as?

    • @pits.893
      @pits.893 3 года назад +3

      Welcome to the Balkans.... In a way we are the most democratic region if Europe, since we make sure that everyone in the region oppresses at least one minority

    • @AliAhmed-cw1io
      @AliAhmed-cw1io 3 года назад +3

      What about turkey does it to kurds on their own land answer that?

    • @timurtopal
      @timurtopal 3 года назад +5

      @@AliAhmed-cw1io Dude Turkish State TV has 24/7 Kurdish TV Broadcast,

    • @wankawanka3053
      @wankawanka3053 2 года назад

      Balkan moment

  • @sclad9053
    @sclad9053 4 года назад +12

    i get both sides, but i aggree with greece, no school in one country should speak another language. im myself turkish, but disagree with it

    • @DesiRockMetal
      @DesiRockMetal 4 года назад +4

      Your thinking is backward. I'm from Canada and we have both English and French language school. Moreover, privately there are many schools that cater to other ethnic groups. There should be mutual respect and tolerance. Otherwise, I won't be surprised if Turkey rightfully invade Western Thrace if this sort of discrimination continues.

    • @sclad9053
      @sclad9053 4 года назад +3

      @@DesiRockMetal you changed my mind. thank you ;)

    • @utkarshraj6978
      @utkarshraj6978 4 года назад

      s clad you know I am Indian and I dislike Pakistani, Bangladeshi,Arab,Turk,Iranian etc and I want China to be superpower.Ok clear or not?

    • @christermi
      @christermi 4 года назад +4

      @@DesiRockMetal don't fall for this propaganda , think for yourself you idiot. Take into consideration that greece is a democratic country that has always respected human rights and international law , while on the other hand Qatar and turkey are dictatorships that have done the complete opposite .

    • @runningtheworldGR
      @runningtheworldGR 4 года назад +2

      They are there with Lausanne treaty! which is signed by Greece and insured their rights of culture and native language schools it is Greece's responsibility by international law and native language is a human right.

  • @wrestlingfan-yq1wh
    @wrestlingfan-yq1wh 3 года назад +6

    West Thrace belongs to Turkey from Albania. Long LIVE TURKEY AND THE TURKISH FOLK 🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷

    • @wrestlingfan-yq1wh
      @wrestlingfan-yq1wh 3 года назад

      @Johnny Black nope

    • @wrestlingfan-yq1wh
      @wrestlingfan-yq1wh 3 года назад +1

      @Johnny Black nope. KOSOVO IS ALBANIA🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱. Go to Prishtina and the folks there will tell you the same

    • @wrestlingfan-yq1wh
      @wrestlingfan-yq1wh 3 года назад

      @Johnny Black SHKJA

    • @levesd3722
      @levesd3722 3 года назад +1

      Turkalbania doesn't belong to Europe.

  • @ddpmk355
    @ddpmk355 4 года назад +12

    Maybe these people should consider moving to Turkey.

  • @angelosmorfis4412
    @angelosmorfis4412 2 года назад +4

    LIES LIES LIES

  • @flexparachute
    @flexparachute 11 месяцев назад +4

    Turks are being treated badly in the Balkans? Good. Why don't you make a video about the genocides that the Turks made in the Balkans for centuries?

  • @yukselozturk89
    @yukselozturk89 4 года назад +4

    It was no problem to state that he was a Turk in Greece before 1967. The names of schools and associations were used with Turkish names. Post-junta Greek democracy declined. The metropolitan is now running the country. The European Court of Human Rights has repeatedly found Greece guilty. Greece did not learn from them. He could not escape being an antidemocratic country. Whereas Western Thrace Turks sacrificed their lives for the Greek World during the second world war. Greece needs to have a democratic constitution urgently. Because it is not possible to keep up with the age we live with the medieval mentality.

    • @calikusukusu4499
      @calikusukusu4499 4 года назад +1

      program only highlights tip of the iceberg what we have been systematically facing all those years,

    • @yukselozturk89
      @yukselozturk89 4 года назад

      CaliKusu Kusu You’re right. They comment here without knowledge. Even the program cannot sit and watch without prejudice. People explain their troubles in Turkish. They still say there are no Turks in Western Thrace. We know very well the assimilation and immigration policy implemented by the Greek State since the July 24, 1923 Lausanne Treaty.

    • @christermi
      @christermi 4 года назад +3

      (Answering to your latest comment)
      The religious minority isn't an ethnic one , namely it consists mainly of pomacs , as well as turks and gypsies .

    • @christermi
      @christermi 4 года назад +2

      I also want to make clear that we are proud of our muslim brothers that helped us fight nazism , being worthy hellenic citizens.

    • @yukselozturk89
      @yukselozturk89 4 года назад

      Christermi Christos Turks, Pomaks and Gypsies are thought to have different effective origins in Greece. They all have the same identity for us. They are all brothers. All of them are the essential element of the Turkish nation. The entire minority living in Western Thrace belongs to the Turkish Nation. You are trying to separate them there. Though even your President calls Muslim Turks Muslim Greeks, it is a bit of a dream to expect you to accept the truth. People rebelled as "We are Turks" in 1988 and 1990, the Greek State arrested most of them and committed violence. Your government deserves this to the people you are proud of. He still deserves assimilation, migration and othering today. Yet those people sacrificed their lives for Greece.

  • @vladimirgeorgiev7193
    @vladimirgeorgiev7193 4 месяца назад

    Western Thrace was part of Bulgaria in the period 1913-1919 (providing an outlet to the Aegean Sea to Bulgaria) but the Bulgarian population was pushed out after the end of the First World War.

  • @nandanugent
    @nandanugent 2 года назад +9

    We visited Xanthi last year and the local people are very nice and friendly both Christian and Muslim we met.

  • @Aristotelis_Hellas
    @Aristotelis_Hellas 4 года назад +15

    I already reported you for false information and propaganda!

    • @steves.auckerman5966
      @steves.auckerman5966 4 года назад +4

      Your a fool. This is all true. Wake up.

    • @christermi
      @christermi 4 года назад +3

      @@steves.auckerman5966 You're a fool . This is clearly propaganda . Wake up .

  • @electricfuzz2255
    @electricfuzz2255 3 года назад +8

    why don't you do a documentary of Gökçeada and Bozcaada?

    • @MIKRASIATISSA
      @MIKRASIATISSA Год назад +1

      exactly, a genuine interview with Imvriotis Patriarch Barthelemeos but truly unbiased...

  • @Smail345
    @Smail345 3 года назад +7

    I am Pomak and my native language is Bulgarian! Inly Bulgaria didn't brainwashed us! We are Bulgarians our ancestors spoke Bulgarian. The religion Islam was brought to us by Turks and we had to survive and accept it! We are Bulgarians ! We are not Greek, nor Turkish!

    • @andrewmichaels5725
      @andrewmichaels5725 3 года назад

      Ρε μκλ σταματα. Ειστε Ελληνες Μουσουλμανοι. Τελος. Τα βαλκανια ηταν ανεκαθεν Ελληνικα. Κανε DNA test και μετα μιλα. Even today every single Bulgarian has at least some Greek DNA. Even Albanians. The language that you speak is just a representation of the people who ruled the land and by no means describes your genetics. Anyway, I can accept the fact that many Pomaks might also have Slavic DNA due to centuries of intermarriage but defintiely not Turkish DNA.

    • @mehmetozturk6249
      @mehmetozturk6249 2 года назад +4

      You didnt have to accept islam

    • @bakrdemir8656
      @bakrdemir8656 Год назад

      my family TURKISH POMAK FROM KIRDJALI i am proud being turkish

    • @levesd3722
      @levesd3722 Год назад

      @@mehmetozturk6249 maybe he was forced.

  • @KS-zw9up
    @KS-zw9up 4 года назад +17

    You sould read more about TREATY OF LOZANI before you do this reportage!

    • @tanrnnkuzusu1359
      @tanrnnkuzusu1359 4 года назад +1

      @Τζάκ Τζόκ malaka gayrek

    • @apostolosmate3361
      @apostolosmate3361 4 года назад +2

      @@tanrnnkuzusu1359 Everyone says turgay nowadays, as turkey is used for the bird.

    • @grinchspoiler2956
      @grinchspoiler2956 3 года назад

      @@tanrnnkuzusu1359 dalama turgay XD

  • @zhcultivator
    @zhcultivator 6 месяцев назад +1

    Hmmm Well I hope something changes for the better in the future for the Turkish minority in Western Thrace

  • @kossllan6144
    @kossllan6144 3 года назад +5

    This is total propaganda.. why so many lies and let the people live free .. I have been there many times because of my business and I don't see what they say.. what I see..?
    I see people do business friendly and open doesn't matter religion and race... Please stop this war ethnicity Fair.. will not end up nowhere.. God bless peace ✌️

  • @Rachidasister
    @Rachidasister 4 года назад +2

    Wow. Had no idea there were Muslim Turks in Greece. How come they did not leave during the Population Exchange?

    • @Rachidasister
      @Rachidasister 4 года назад +1

      @Akinci Haha at revenge. Revenges are not good. Let's hope that with times changing people will get better and accept brotherhood. I think without Western grudge against Turkey with the leading role of France as crusader, there will no problems between Eastern people. Those who instigate hate since Medieval Times are in France. Their populations have been endoctrinated. Turkey needs to be good at diplomacy because France is working hard at isolating Turkey using Arab countries.

  • @trigbiggers4492
    @trigbiggers4492 4 года назад +12

    Wow, talk about one sided and fact deprived

  • @giotio9232
    @giotio9232 4 года назад +8

    sad misleading journalism...

  • @Hadrianus_Olympius
    @Hadrianus_Olympius Год назад +2

    THAT'S JUST PROPAGANDA

  • @georgetsapekis
    @georgetsapekis 7 месяцев назад +1

    Quick question: Why doesn't the Turkish government procure for a building? In Greece we always blame the Greek Administration of Education for similar matters, like closing of Greek schools abroad or for defunding schools for the Diaspora etc.

  • @mitsnola7055
    @mitsnola7055 4 года назад +7

    Lies

  • @zhcultivator
    @zhcultivator 6 месяцев назад +1

    well this comment section is something else...to say the least

  • @KevinFlynn_
    @KevinFlynn_ 4 года назад +24

    Al fakezeera

  • @iliastsiphlidis4607
    @iliastsiphlidis4607 3 месяца назад +1

    Thanks, now report on the Turkish discrimination of ethnic Greeks in Turkey.

  • @JohnJRambo-vq8dj
    @JohnJRambo-vq8dj 4 года назад +12

    Go GREECE GO👍👊

  • @VA-kw3ke
    @VA-kw3ke 2 года назад +3

    You are very funny Al Jazeera….Make documentary about the genocide of Greek,Armenian and Assyrian population in Turkey ….If the Muslim in Trace feel Turkish , they can easily move to Turkey, it’s so close …But they don’t want it because they know what life in Turkey means

  • @mariasn7847
    @mariasn7847 4 года назад +5

    False info. Please more information next time al jazeera,and not only by turks

  • @accacc4684
    @accacc4684 4 года назад +16

    You make turkish propaganda

  • @ΜιχαληςΣηφακης-ε6ξ
    @ΜιχαληςΣηφακης-ε6ξ 3 года назад +3

    Al jazeera,do you know how many greek muslems are living in turkey?
    Check it out.

    • @NabeelaAmbareenMMB
      @NabeelaAmbareenMMB 3 года назад

      @Cansu majority Muslim in Istanbul were ethinic Greek

    • @NabeelaAmbareenMMB
      @NabeelaAmbareenMMB 3 года назад

      @Son Bozkurt hello but i am Muslim from Greece 🇬🇷☪️

  • @lilyk3784
    @lilyk3784 3 года назад +7

    AL Jazeera money Qatar turkey you know what i mean

  • @georgesterg7340
    @georgesterg7340 4 года назад +13

    This video is so easy to understand it’s purpose. You can just compare facts European citizenship or Turkish citizenship what you would choose. All you have to watch carefully is, the so called oppressed minority members what they wear what kind of mobiles they use and their homes. Every other “fact” served from the “journalist” I really enjoyed the narration sounds like a heavy addicted person is talking. Well he passed through Turkey..

    • @jivanselbi3657
      @jivanselbi3657 11 месяцев назад

      nevertheless, that ethnic minority cannot deny their language and culture.. choosing to live like Europeans is something of choice..bening oppressed for identity is another.. if your government is racist and feels inferior as civilized Greek you should be able to speak up and say - you are guilty

  • @Iktius
    @Iktius 11 месяцев назад +1

    So what happened to the christians in today turkey??? I haven't see any! BTW eastern thrace is HELLAS 🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷

  • @TremulasGr
    @TremulasGr 4 года назад +8

    "Journalism" at its worst

  • @dyyan
    @dyyan 7 месяцев назад +2

    Fake documentary of a "media" that usually is not objective. Only one side presented in the video. Some people talking stuff that can not be proved. Finally, a monotone voice that had to suggest "facts" and make the viewers believe in what the authors (no names of the creators btw) want you to believe. Most of the videos of this "media" are like this.

  • @wankawanka3053
    @wankawanka3053 2 года назад +3

    Lol they just presumed the nationality of pomaks

  • @Rai-Bulgaria
    @Rai-Bulgaria 3 месяца назад

    Turks, Pomaks and Bulgarians--we are all one people. It's time we take back Southern Thrace. It's ours and greeks have nothing to do with it.

    • @grinchspoiler2956
      @grinchspoiler2956 2 месяца назад

      You have less to do with it. You are recent immigrants.

  • @greeko25
    @greeko25 4 года назад +7

    Mr Glenn Ellis you have created this piece for al jazeera. Do you have an email where we could send you questions or objections about it? would you be available for answering them

    • @_berat.ugur_3089
      @_berat.ugur_3089 3 года назад

      jerks. wait. We will retake the city where Atatürk was born.

    • @levesd3722
      @levesd3722 Год назад

      @@_berat.ugur_3089 Yeah right...lol