a lot of people are mentioning that the cord should come out the back of the battery pack instead of the front, but I think that Metabo HPT designed it this way because the battery on the tools you'd actually need this for slides in backwards. On those high battery consumption tools like saws & rotary hammers, the battery usually mounts in reverse, hence the cord will be facing the back.
i dont mean to be offtopic but does anybody know a tool to log back into an instagram account..? I was dumb lost my password. I would appreciate any tips you can give me
@Anakin Morgan Thanks so much for your reply. I got to the site on google and im waiting for the hacking stuff atm. Looks like it's gonna take a while so I will reply here later with my results.
Would this work in conjunction with a Milwaukee M18 battery adapter so it could possibly be used for high demand M18 tools? Any chance in trying this out Vince if you haven't? Cheers.
Wowwwww!! Deff a ground breaking design. However it reminds me of the first cellphones... with the backpacks.🤣😂. I think this cord would sit in the truck. It would be talked about often but not used much. Streamline the design. Put the transformer on the battery, or plug, just not in the middle. But i cant wait yo use one. Friggen awesome stuff coming out from metabo!!
Wish dewalt would do this for the 60v flexvolt (they do for the 120v). I have the cordless compressor and would be nice to have options. I’ve thought about making one
Never heard of the 'Metabo' here in New Zealand ....we have the Hikoki C3610 DRJ 36V 254mm Brushless Professional Worksite Table Saw Kit here in NZ ...👍👍👍
Your "VCG" Logo is the bomb! Never realized that it was a 3D Gif(assuming) as it moves😱 when I actually got the notification of this vid(yeah, was notified...amazingly awesome). So, whomever made that did a great job. Ok, may comment again, as just started this vid, but wanted to throw that out there before I forgot 👍🏻
@@histguy101 theoretically any platform can get it is just a transformer / converter from 110v or 240v to 12v 18v or 36v but yeah they won't do it because will loose money from battery sales. However I think is a great ideea from hikoki/metabo hpt to give you the option to power your tool from mains when a battery isn't really needed.
i tried to make one of these about 8 years ago from a broken Makita battery and a laptop charger. Its about time makita made there own. Do you think there will be one for the new 40v xgt tools Vince
Need a much more powerful/bigger power supply to provide 18 volts AND the huge amperage draw required to run cordless tools. I also tried with a laptop charger once. Didn't work very well. Would be cool if all the companies provided this option.
These are great. I bought three of the battery 18 volt framing nail guns, they will run on the 36 volt batteries too. But im not sure about the adapter working with the 18 volt stuff. We are gearing up to make a run for totally cordless job site. We will be buying the Hitachi 36 volt sliding miter saw also. Again, these multi volt batteries are compatible with all the older Hitachi lithium 18 volt tools. You get 18 volt and double amp hours.
That thing looks like something that an alien left behind. It even has superior corded/cordless technology! I'd hide one away under my bed. Heck, you could grab the cord and swing that thing around like a Gogo Yobari chain mace if you had unwanted intruders!
I kind of feel like the should have just went full metabo or full hitachi. I also am unsure if Id want to jump into a system where entry to their nicer stuff is 400+. I'm more curious of their nail guns from hitachi and the road they will take. They seem to have a deep discount right now, Im expecting a rebrand but Im not caught up on the news.
I’d like to see an adapter like this from Milwaukee it would be nice for the new m18 miter saw/table saw or maybe even a hammer drill if you had a lot of drilling
@@VCGConstruction Your sources may very well be better than mine. The whisper I heard was they were looking to introduce an updated version of the table saw this Summer that would work with either battery or mains power. It would be a smart move imo. Cheers.
The Transformer brick is a step Down Transformer to step the voltage down from 120v to 36v thats why the brick is so large takes a ton of chips and capacitors and resistors to drop that voltage @vcgconstruction
Thanks for the unboxing Vince. My thought is that is it is more for tools that are/will be coming out like circs,table saws etc but they wanted to get it out there. TBH I wish I new they were gonna make one for the Milwaukee saws. I’d like to get the 10” mitre but do not want to be limited to battery only. Most of the time it would be in a shop environment so plug it in and forget about it. I’m sure all brands will have this going forward. Sexy Flexy has it already correct? Can that be used on all 60v max tools?
Pete Hartnett DeWalt F***** it up. Because we run 120v in our outlets that’s why the mitre saw takes two 60v batteries. All the other Sexxxy Flexxxy are single battery. So their AC/DC adapter only works on the one tool. They said they didn’t do it cause if cost on the table saw. $100 more I heard. Stupid in my opinion. Anyway, that’s why HiKoki need sthat brick transformer to adapt that 36v to 120v for an outlet. Above my pay grade.
REN Man I agree that seems like a missed opportunity on their part. Maybe a revision in the future for the dewalt guys if the hpt version sells good and other companies buy into the idea. Maybe a split version for the flexy that can be used single for drills/etc. and doubled up for the others?
Testing the AC/ DC adapter with high current draw tools should be fun. Instructions say the AC/ DC should not be used with grinders. I wonder if the Mitre and Table Saw blades spool up, brake better or sound different with the adapter installed?
Has anyone tried to make an adapter for Metabo HPT MultiVolt AC Adapter so that it can be reduced to a 20V Dewalt tool or an 18V Milwaukee or Ryobi tool by use of an adapter? I can find an adapter for all tools except Metabo.
This side of the pond we have 240 volts as standard mains voltage and drop down to 110 for site tools... or used to. If you think that transformer is large, try carrying around a double or triple outlet 240/110 tranny up ladders - some might say it's a 2 man lift. On site just about everything now is cordless so top quality secondhand corded tools are now really cheap for the hobbyist.... but you have to hump around those bl00dy great transformers
It would be great to have the Metabo ac/dc adapter work on all of their cordless tools but it doesn't. I have the Metabo HPT DV 18 DBFL2 Cordless Hammer Drill , that uses a multivolt 36v / 18v battery, I purchased the Metabo ac/dc adapter but the Metabo hammer drill does not attach to the drill. Hugh Bummer. Stuck with useless adapter.
In my opinion, the HPT tools could be competitive with other brands because of Metabo's willingness to create this adapter... The problem is, the adapter is prohibitively expensive! Why not take a loss on selling the adapter, to help build brand loyalty? I'm looking to buy my next sawzall and unfortunately I'm forced to stick with Milwaukee or buy corded because I have a bunch of M18 batteries.
Also watched your Milwaukee vs metabo how come the milwaukee perform beter using 18v power than the 36v metabo What happens to the rest of the 18v metabo use or where does the power goes i m confused
@@theetheeyog9878 From what I've read it's really 2 18v 4ah battery packs. The connections in the tool either connect the 2 packs in series giving 36v 4ah. Or in parallel giving 18v 8ah.
It's a good idea...but like you said the cord is not a good idea for a drill...its good for a table saw or miter saw or other big power tools. That whole set up is not cheap but it's a very good quality tool.
CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THE MATABO HPT TRIPLE HAMMER IMPACT DRIVER VS MILWAUKEE'S GEN#2, OR MILWAUKEE'S SURGE IMPACT DRIVER IN/ON #T.T.R., HOPEFULLY TOMORROW CUZBRO !!!! # JUST SAYING !!!!
My dumbass bought one from a individual off Facebook , brand new, never opened, for $50 . I didn't think , read the box , got it home then realized , no battery or charger. But still , I got a deal, he had 3 more , might have been a steal of a deal
Wish the cord power adapter cord itself came out of back, instead of the front; as, I can see it probably getting in the way when using....from the back of tool, might have been a better choice, just sayin'. That inverter is huge. Wish they could come up with something little smaller to take AC to DC for the tool..... Maybe they could had built the inverter directly into that battery adapter?, might have been tad bigger, but rather that than huge brick😉
"with Little to No Power Loss." "In an AC circuit, the product of the rms voltage and the rms current is called apparent power. When the impedance is a pure resistance, the apparent power is the same as the true power. But when reactance exists, the apparent power is greater than the true power." (whatis.techtarget.com) Someone correct me if I am wrong, but I believe this is what they mean with Little to No Power Loss.
I think the cord is a great option, but this thing needs to be redesigned. They need to make the invertor/transformer much smaller and maybe close to the plug and maybe make it fit into the battery size part of the connector, and make the cord come out the back not the front of the tools. Way to big and awkward. Thumbs down on this good idea.
Nate Baker I agree with the transformer. Don’t understand that size. I feel the adapter should have just been a battery that you could plug the cord into so it would charge while on the tool. Like you can do with a cell phone. I have some cord ideas as well. But Renaissance Tools will be using them on our new multi flex tool line.
Smaller would be nice, but go look up high amp power adaptors on Amazon. They're huge. The transformers, capacitors and stuff that go into it especially to make it reliable and long lasting, are big and produce a lot of heat. I think there's just limitations to how small something like that can be.
But dragging that power brick around ,should make it were the brick can have a extension cord plugged in to it ,then your cord to the female end of extension cord and to battery lol
a lot of people are mentioning that the cord should come out the back of the battery pack instead of the front, but I think that Metabo HPT designed it this way because the battery on the tools you'd actually need this for slides in backwards. On those high battery consumption tools like saws & rotary hammers, the battery usually mounts in reverse, hence the cord will be facing the back.
Exactly Jon!
i dont mean to be offtopic but does anybody know a tool to log back into an instagram account..?
I was dumb lost my password. I would appreciate any tips you can give me
@Zakai Darwin instablaster =)
@Anakin Morgan Thanks so much for your reply. I got to the site on google and im waiting for the hacking stuff atm.
Looks like it's gonna take a while so I will reply here later with my results.
@Anakin Morgan it worked and I actually got access to my account again. I am so happy:D
Thank you so much you saved my ass!
This is gonna be a game changer in my opinion, to have the option ac/dc with one platform etc,
Everything manufacturer should offer one of these as a option
This is going to set the standards at the job site forcing others to do the same. Love HITACHI. These make everything!!!!
Would this work in conjunction with a Milwaukee M18 battery adapter so it could possibly be used for high demand M18 tools?
Any chance in trying this out Vince if you haven't?
Cheers.
Wowwwww!! Deff a ground breaking design. However it reminds me of the first cellphones... with the backpacks.🤣😂. I think this cord would sit in the truck. It would be talked about often but not used much. Streamline the design. Put the transformer on the battery, or plug, just not in the middle. But i cant wait yo use one. Friggen awesome stuff coming out from metabo!!
Really enjoy your videos bro! I'm a hvac technician up north in lehigh Valley and you helped me score some good deals!!!!
Nice Howard!! Glad to have you here!
Wish dewalt would do this for the 60v flexvolt (they do for the 120v). I have the cordless compressor and would be nice to have options. I’ve thought about making one
Never heard of the 'Metabo' here in New Zealand ....we have the Hikoki C3610 DRJ 36V 254mm Brushless Professional Worksite Table Saw Kit here in NZ ...👍👍👍
Now we need Milwaukee to make one for my lights
Awesome video Vince nice to see new concepts keep up the great work
Thanks Jay!
Your "VCG" Logo is the bomb! Never realized that it was a 3D Gif(assuming) as it moves😱 when I actually got the notification of this vid(yeah, was notified...amazingly awesome). So, whomever made that did a great job. Ok, may comment again, as just started this vid, but wanted to throw that out there before I forgot 👍🏻
Thank you for noticing!!
4 years fast forward i am still waiting for makita and milwaukee to release something similar for their tools =)))
@@histguy101 no I mean an ac adapter
@@histguy101 theoretically any platform can get it is just a transformer / converter from 110v or 240v to 12v 18v or 36v but yeah they won't do it because will loose money from battery sales. However I think is a great ideea from hikoki/metabo hpt to give you the option to power your tool from mains when a battery isn't really needed.
i tried to make one of these about 8 years ago from a broken Makita battery and a laptop charger. Its about time makita made there own. Do you think there will be one for the new 40v xgt tools Vince
Need a much more powerful/bigger power supply to provide 18 volts AND the huge amperage draw required to run cordless tools. I also tried with a laptop charger once. Didn't work very well. Would be cool if all the companies provided this option.
These are great. I bought three of the battery 18 volt framing nail guns, they will run on the 36 volt batteries too. But im not sure about the adapter working with the 18 volt stuff. We are gearing up to make a run for totally cordless job site. We will be buying the Hitachi 36 volt sliding miter saw also. Again, these multi volt batteries are compatible with all the older Hitachi lithium 18 volt tools. You get 18 volt and double amp hours.
This new metabo hpt multivolt line is no joke!
Hi, this adapter works with the 18v line?
Hi, this adapter works with the 18v line?
@@jesusdanieltorres971 no it does not.
HiKOKI Table Saw 254mm $NZD 1,349.00 each
That thing looks like something that an alien left behind. It even has superior corded/cordless technology! I'd hide one away under my bed. Heck, you could grab the cord and swing that thing around like a Gogo Yobari chain mace if you had unwanted intruders!
It’s great to have options! Good information 👍🏻😊
I kind of feel like the should have just went full metabo or full hitachi. I also am unsure if Id want to jump into a system where entry to their nicer stuff is 400+.
I'm more curious of their nail guns from hitachi and the road they will take. They seem to have a deep discount right now, Im expecting a rebrand but Im not caught up on the news.
Why can’t the big box be right next to where the cord plugs into the wall maybe like 1” away from the plug in so the rest is usable cord?
Blake Stroia that brick would rip the outlet out of the wall. Hahaha
Can this be used on 18 and 20 volt Dewalt and other brands?
No
Hi Vince I am thinking about getting into the Metabo line because of this adapter. Will this adapter work on their 18v line of tools?
I’d like to see an adapter like this from Milwaukee it would be nice for the new m18 miter saw/table saw or maybe even a hammer drill if you had a lot of drilling
Milwaukee will be introducing the hybrid option for the tablesaw this year ;)
Milwaukee has no plans to introduce this option in the USA
@@VCGConstruction Your sources may very well be better than mine. The whisper I heard was they were looking to introduce an updated version of the table saw this Summer that would work with either battery or mains power. It would be a smart move imo. Cheers.
Omg that nail came out fast! Quick
The Transformer brick is a step Down Transformer to step the voltage down from 120v to 36v thats why the brick is so large takes a ton of chips and capacitors and resistors to drop that voltage @vcgconstruction
Don't you think that cord should enter the back of the tool instead?
Joe Shearer ur right. But their mitre saw set up, it would be in the way. It’s a good start. Needed to work out some of the design bugs.
Joe Shearer oh! And, That’s what SHE said!!!!!
You could modify any battery to be corded but you need a good dc buck-converter with high amps.
How does this compare against the Metabo hammer drill? I don't know if I trust Hitachi with making power tools.
Thanks for the unboxing Vince. My thought is that is it is more for tools that are/will be coming out like circs,table saws etc but they wanted to get it out there. TBH I wish I new they were gonna make one for the Milwaukee saws. I’d like to get the 10” mitre but do not want to be limited to battery only. Most of the time it would be in a shop environment so plug it in and forget about it. I’m sure all brands will have this going forward. Sexy Flexy has it already correct? Can that be used on all 60v max tools?
Pete Hartnett DeWalt F***** it up. Because we run 120v in our outlets that’s why the mitre saw takes two 60v batteries. All the other Sexxxy Flexxxy are single battery. So their AC/DC adapter only works on the one tool. They said they didn’t do it cause if cost on the table saw. $100 more I heard. Stupid in my opinion. Anyway, that’s why HiKoki need sthat brick transformer to adapt that 36v to 120v for an outlet. Above my pay grade.
REN Man I agree that seems like a missed opportunity on their part. Maybe a revision in the future for the dewalt guys if the hpt version sells good and other companies buy into the idea. Maybe a split version for the flexy that can be used single for drills/etc. and doubled up for the others?
Testing the AC/ DC adapter with high current draw tools should be fun. Instructions say the AC/ DC should not be used with grinders. I wonder if the Mitre and Table Saw blades spool up, brake better or sound different with the adapter installed?
Does that exist for Milwaukee?
What other brands provide this option?
Let me know do dewalt has 18v multivolt 5amp AC DC adapters if yes kindly send me the details
The cord location for impact drilling is not ideal. I agree that this would be more useful for high draw tools.
The adapter fits to opposite direction for larger tools like the recip saw and rotary hammers!
@@VCGConstruction Huh. Well I guess that's good? Cant wait to see some further testing!
Will the adaptor work on the older 18v models?
Has anyone tried to make an adapter for Metabo HPT MultiVolt AC Adapter so that it can be reduced to a 20V Dewalt tool or an 18V Milwaukee or Ryobi tool by use of an adapter? I can find an adapter for all tools except Metabo.
Wondering the same thing
It’s great to have those options, but that that transformer box is huge.
It's UGEEEEE
This side of the pond we have 240 volts as standard mains voltage and drop down to 110 for site tools... or used to. If you think that transformer is large, try carrying around a double or triple outlet 240/110 tranny up ladders - some might say it's a 2 man lift. On site just about everything now is cordless so top quality secondhand corded tools are now really cheap for the hobbyist.... but you have to hump around those bl00dy great transformers
Milwaukee should do this too.
You have that big Transformer so why does the battery looking adapter have to be so big. Make it like a 2ah battery size not a 5ah battery
It is made for bigger tools
How much with charger an 2 batteries ?
Do the HPT batteries work on the German Metabo tools?
No
@@VCGConstruction that'd be too convenient
I’ve been looking for one of these, for makita. Do they exist? I found one, made by a 3rd party, for $400.00, which seems like a lot.
Milwaukee should make a adapter like that and improve on the design
Aaron Repper that’s red China’s mission statement. They just don’t deliver. I.E. table saw.
@@renaissancemen1 The whispers from TTI tell me it's in the works. My guess would be NPS19. The requests for it have been off the charts.
They already do for m18 power tools.
They are $44 Australian dollars
@@zagan1 give us a link brother.
zagan1 where ? Maybe your thinking of the USB adapter that clips into the battery
It would be great to have the Metabo ac/dc adapter work on all of their cordless tools but it doesn't. I have the Metabo HPT DV 18 DBFL2 Cordless Hammer Drill , that uses a multivolt 36v / 18v battery, I purchased the Metabo ac/dc adapter but the Metabo hammer drill does not attach to the drill. Hugh Bummer. Stuck with useless adapter.
Same. Fuckers should be sued for false advertising. The adapter literally says "fits all metabo multivolt battery tools"
That's an awesome feature. I love options!
I bought one couldn't get it to fit my impact wrench and threw it away
What's your overall opinion on this drill, you seem a bit iffy about it??
Will know more about it friday on #TTR!
@@VCGConstruction okay, cool
In my opinion, the HPT tools could be competitive with other brands because of Metabo's willingness to create this adapter... The problem is, the adapter is prohibitively expensive! Why not take a loss on selling the adapter, to help build brand loyalty? I'm looking to buy my next sawzall and unfortunately I'm forced to stick with Milwaukee or buy corded because I have a bunch of M18 batteries.
Great opinion
Would that work on the mafel 18v plung saw
No I don't think so
Thank you pal what are your thought of fein drill
Also watched your Milwaukee vs metabo how come the milwaukee perform beter using 18v power than the 36v metabo
What happens to the rest of the 18v metabo use or where does the power goes i m confused
@@theetheeyog9878 From what I've read it's really 2 18v 4ah battery packs. The connections in the tool either connect the 2 packs in series giving 36v 4ah. Or in parallel giving 18v 8ah.
Craig Fredryk I cant see why it wouldn’t work on the 18v? Would be nice if Metabo could confirm either way
Vince my local Home Depot has Milwaukee cordless drill driver impact gun in a pack out for 199 was 318 I passed on to you guys
Thanks Kona!!
i like that plug in option but the chior is still out on. durability
Why don’t they have the cord on the back side of the adapter?
It enters the big tools different
It's a good idea...but like you said the cord is not a good idea for a drill...its good for a table saw or miter saw or other big power tools. That whole set up is not cheap but it's a very good quality tool.
I think the adapter will fit on the sds hammers the opposite way so it won’t be an issue!!
Another good video , 👍
Thanks Wealro!!
think you mean batteries have a finite lifespan...not infinite. I think we all knew what u meant though
CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THE MATABO HPT TRIPLE HAMMER IMPACT DRIVER VS MILWAUKEE'S GEN#2, OR MILWAUKEE'S SURGE IMPACT DRIVER IN/ON #T.T.R., HOPEFULLY TOMORROW CUZBRO !!!! # JUST SAYING !!!!
My dumbass bought one from a individual off Facebook , brand new, never opened, for $50 . I didn't think , read the box , got it home then realized , no battery or charger. But still , I got a deal, he had 3 more , might have been a steal of a deal
Just keep extra charged batteries on hand.
Now that we made a cordless tool corded again can we make a corded tool cordless?
Y not build the transformer into the adapter
That was probably as far as they could go without stepping up the wire gauge and i assume you are not moving much if you plan on using that
Will ridgid ever come out with this I surely hope so
That would be cool
They should have put the cord in the back on the adapter so it doesn't get in the way
Wish the cord power adapter cord itself came out of back, instead of the front; as, I can see it probably getting in the way when using....from the back of tool, might have been a better choice, just sayin'. That inverter is huge. Wish they could come up with something little smaller to take AC to DC for the tool..... Maybe they could had built the inverter directly into that battery adapter?, might have been tad bigger, but rather that than huge brick😉
Doit vs milwalkee. And doit all screws long short big small bolts
"with Little to No Power Loss."
"In an AC circuit, the product of the rms voltage and the rms current is called apparent power. When the impedance is a pure resistance, the apparent power is the same as the true power. But when reactance exists, the apparent power is greater than the true power." (whatis.techtarget.com)
Someone correct me if I am wrong, but I believe this is what they mean with Little to No Power Loss.
I think the cord is a great option, but this thing needs to be redesigned. They need to make the invertor/transformer much smaller and maybe close to the plug and maybe make it fit into the battery size part of the connector, and make the cord come out the back not the front of the tools. Way to big and awkward. Thumbs down on this good idea.
Nate Baker I agree with the transformer. Don’t understand that size. I feel the adapter should have just been a battery that you could plug the cord into so it would charge while on the tool. Like you can do with a cell phone. I have some cord ideas as well. But Renaissance Tools will be using them on our new multi flex tool line.
Smaller would be nice, but go look up high amp power adaptors on Amazon. They're huge. The transformers, capacitors and stuff that go into it especially to make it reliable and long lasting, are big and produce a lot of heat. I think there's just limitations to how small something like that can be.
I love options but that is just looks like a hell of a mess on a job site
Yo Vince, a little insomnia here, so just went to 24 hr Whataburger!!!, Ummmmmmmmm, yo nice vid too, Peace Out!
i just mod my makita 18v battery adapter ,using a converter 220v to 18vdc 20A😂😂
Finite not Infinite. Battery supplies although rechargeable, their life as said, will degrade. Good stuff.
Would be great to have that ac/dc converter on Milwaukee or dewalt and Makita’s battery skill saws
But dragging that power brick around ,should make it were the brick can have a extension cord plugged in to it ,then your cord to the female end of extension cord and to battery lol
@@nvg1526 yep, surley they could build it into the battery clip battery end.
i need for dewalt please
I cant see carrying that on the job site it's a huge brick
Genius.
nice....
BAADAAPTER
Read the instruction Vince 😄😅😄. Naaah nobody reads it
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from Tampa bay
Nice!! Represent!
Wow, those HPT batteries are huge, and they do not look well-balanced. It looks as though the tool sits too far back on the battery.
Power loss: converting 230V or 115V to 36V is not free.
I think it's a ridiculous idea ,the whole point of me buying cordless well was to go cordless
👍👍
FINITE not infinite battery life
Only cheap old men will buy this comically-large corded option instead of a second battery!
😂😂
Or preppers. Look at the way things are now. What if you can't get the batteries for a while?
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