Why should he? He's on his own property. It's not his fault his neighbors don't know where their property lines are. He can put his dock 1/2 an inch from the property line if he wants. It's HIS property. The old man is just going to have to move his dock over. The guy gave him a 6 month notice of intent. Letting him know he was going to expand his dock. The old man should've moved his dock instead of being a prick and going to the media. He's just showing how stupid he is. Just Sayin'!
rockit730 and tootsiesCreationz, there’s no reason to build the extension though! And for him to say that if the old man had “done his homework before he brought the house, he might’ve seen an issue down the road” is complete bullshit. Who plans out for what “could” possibly happen if you get shitty neighbors? Like get real people
ski man what's wrong with you the young man is legally extending his dock? The older man has the audacity to complain about the young man's legal dock while his dock is illegal!!
@@Kirbykin88 you moron if you had the money to live the lifestyle as these people and you wanted to legally extend your dock you would do so. It comes down to buyer beware.fool.
@@bluej854 It's called due diligence. Also what prospective buyer doesn't have the property surveyed prior to purchase. I'm sure the lawyers would have required it.
He just brought his dock to legal code and their docks aren’t to legal code and they won’t pay to bring it to code. Really not his fault. Maybe he will be using the waterfront commercially and needs it to pass and it wouldn’t have before.
Thats something this young guy doesnt understand. Theres no amount of dock space worth being cussed out every time you go outside your house (even if its just a subtle look and middle finger every time).
Yah, there's a _lot_ of subtle ways to make his life miserable. Depending on the prevailing wind, dandelions are a good start. 😂 Two or three Weiner dogs, that have been taught not to like that one neighbor is good too.
Something like this happens in Bellair Florida a few years back and it got real nasty. Most of the people with docks have lived there for over 20+ years and a new person moves on to the street and pulled this stunt. There wasn't notice posted like there should have been and the city gave him the green light to replace his dock. It not only blocked two other docks next to him but on the other side of the water it stopped that person from leaving their dock " they had a 50' boat". The other homeowners sued. In the end, he had to remove the dock because all the older docks were grandfathered in before new codes went into effect. The local news found out the man worked for a company owned by City's planning commissioner and that's why he got the green light so fast.
This sounds just about as I expected (see below). It sounded like someone had a lot of free time on his hands to do the research needed to figure out - how to screw your neighbors, legally, with the amount of least effort. Like they say, idle hands are the devils workshop. ~.... The local news found out the man worked for a company owned by City's planning commissioner and that's why he got the green light so fast....~ A good Real Estate Agent ...must of told him, warned him of the repercussions.
The guy expanding his dock may be in the right legally but morally he is bankrupt. To do that to his neighbour is mean and crappy. The bully on the lake.
They would have been, as with nearly all non commercial constructions/properties. Imagine having to modify your house every 2 years or so to meet new insulation, tornado resistance or fire ratings. Or your car.
@Chris Kibodeaux Yes there is a such thing as being grandfathered in, I have an apartment building that was build in 1908 that is less than three feet from my property line. My cities current code says you can not build structures with in 15 feet of a property line. You care to explain why this 1908 apartment building is still standing if it is not grandfathered in?
@@brianhaflin9799 I would disagree with that, Brian. Replacing existing structure exactly as it was before should not lose grandfathered status, it's considered normal upkeep and repair. Most structures will only need brought up to current codes if something gets altered from it's original design.
@Charles Ng They will get the finger, especially if they honk. I mean why, with all the available space-time in the universe, would someone have an ego that he is entitled to an already occupied by me?
Yup I live in the city and our problem is finding parking for our car 🚗 🙃.... we have a neighbor that when he goes out he takes a car that is parked in the street brings out one of his many POS cars from his driveway and parks it in its place till he comes back ..
So a little rich boy moves into the neighborhood and then decides to throw his weight around and bully his elderly retired neighbors who are struggling to survive on a fixed income. Then hides behind the law to excuse his harassment! This guy needs to be taken "behind the schoolhouse" and taught a lesson in respecting his elders.
That kids wants and needs are more important than everyone else’s. Something as important as a dock is reasonable to turn all the neighbors lifes upside down. His parents must be so proud of him.
The new guy moves in, and builds a bigger dock, to block off the established docks. The water isn't "his property" and there's such a thing as being neighborly.
I agree with being neighborly but the county wouldn't give permits if it wasn't possible to build in the water. I assume this is a man-made canal and rights to and in the water were given to the homeowners when the homes were built.
The new guy is just building a bigger dock and has the permits to do so. He is not doing it to block anybody. He just wants a bigger dock. The water is not his property, true. But that has nothing to do with the construction of the dock on his property. Explain how he is taking the water as his. The old man is complaining because he knows he does not have a legal leg to stand on and he is wrong. Being neighborly is not calling the news to air your dirty laundry in public or to try to get sympathy when you are in the wrong. It is not the young man's fault the old man can not read a contract or research before buying.
When my neighbor put up his privacy fence he went all the way to the alley blocking me from being able to pull my camper in to the back yard so i had to have my alley leveled and graveled so i could back in (small town i own my section of alley ie my responsibility) the fact of the matter is complaining wont do anything but cause drama he doesn't have a leg to stand on.
DID you even hear the story? That is NOT what happened. The man who made the new dock is building legally and in compliance with county codes and on his property. The neighbors docks were NOT built in compliance with codes thus is making the conflict with the new dock. THAT IS NOT THE NEW GUYS FAULT .To fix the neighbors dock and make them compliant, would solve the issue, but would cost a lot of money. The neighbor does not want to spend the money so he is trying to go after the new guy who is doing everything by the book.
I see nothing wrong here, sad that a dock built who knows how long ago wasn’t done correctly but this sure isn’t the person who’s expanding their docks fault. That’s taking away their freedom, if ya got a boat and a dock you can probably afford fixing it. It’s your problem, not his at that point.
Well Don, except for code likes to change every few years, so the prior docks were likely to code at the time of their construction. Code tends to be more about revenue than safety. Most places allow for a grandfather claus, which should protect the older docks. But the new docks code , while legal, may cause an obstruction. The solution is for the existing docks to have to be modified. Modifications that likely require a permit. Then to be modified or altered means they lose their grandfather status and would have to comply with new code. Seems like a raw deal to the owners that already paid to build docks to the then code, to be forced to meet the new code.
@don...i agree with you. So because he purchased property and wants to update his dock but cant because it would block a neighbor who apparently isnt compliant with his dock. Why should he be punished not to be able to do his property he wants. So dumb dumb would burn down his dock go to jail for it and forfeit any chance to go boating again...u ppl are stupid so tough at a computer saying what u would do...acting all manly.
i don't see update, but i bet this is Earls end of life last home, been there a longtime already and all the other docks have been setup sameway, long before some code was enacted, now new young man is upgrading to what code is and he did give notice. not sure why they didn't consider combining and docks and make it work for both without screwing all the neighbors and causing a chain reaction of upgrades for all. and still be good human beings toward each other.
@The Emperor Protects but he literally explains why he’s not wrong both legally and morally. He has a right to build on his own property. He’s legally right because he submitted his plans and everything was to code. Morally he’s right because as he explains, it’s the buyers responsibility to see if the house you are buying is properly inspected to make sure everything is to code. The reporter even looked it up and found that he was correct. Was does the burden fall on the guy who did everything right and not the ones who did everything wrong?
@The Emperor Protects but the disruption is the fault of the other neighbors. They clearly say in the vid, that the other neighbors docks are not within the code. If they were, then this guys dock would not be interfering with their docks. So you can’t say just because the others are inconvenienced that this guy is some how incorrect. Now that’s the end of it.
@@supertrooper1600 All of the docks were up to code when they were originally put in. I guarantee it. Somewhere along the line, some law changed and now this bullshit happens. "My neighbors should have known an asshole might move in and block their dock access" certainly does not make you morally right. You might be a psychopath.
My neighbour bought a mercedes the same colour as mine. Isn't that disgusting. My neigbour added another story to his mansion and now my mansion doesn't get that beautiful vista we had. But at least we do loathe poor people. So we have something in common.
This would be much, much clearer if it was on land what is actually going on, and it would be clear that the original neighbor is in the wrong. When you live on a lake, your property lines usually extend into the water. The dock itself probably doesn't encroach from the sounds of it, but the access does. In other words, the first dock was using the neighbor's property as a "driveway" for his boat. Also, it looks like they are on a concave curve. So ANY dock added will crowd the surrounding docks. If your existing dock prevents your neighbor from being able to build his own because it wasn't built correctly, and you're using *his* property to access *your* dock, you're not just equally culpable. You're fully culpable. The new owner notified his neighbors of the encroachment, and they didn't do anything about it, possibly because they knew their dock was built wrong. Unless he bought and recorded an easement to use his neighbor's land to access his dock, he is in the wrong and has to move his dock.
Looks like the existing dock guy was using the new dock guy's access point, and the other neighbors down the way did the same thing. A domino effect. New guy comes in and does what everybody else should have done in the first place.
Nope. All the neibors who have illegal docks including Earl are going to have problems because of Earl being a entitled spoiled old brat. The problems are going to come from the county which is going to make the fix their docks or the county removes them and the neibors pay more than it would have coast to fix their docks.
You don't understand, because you don't run a newsroom. Simply, they want people coming back for the story, of course they are going to give a piece now and then more later, its called a business.
It appears to be an issue of what happens when or If the new guys boat is stored or "lifted"out of the water? Those boat guys don't want the stains, maintenance required if the boats stay afloat - especially in bad weather. the 'new guy' is causing a ripple effect all down the access way. I wonder if its a tidal thing or a real issue? Wait a few years....Global warming will fix the problem - Maybe?... rising tide lifts all boats.
All you do is find a neighbor that lives in-between the new dock and the gulf, fundraise for his dock improvement project, and make it so Micheal can't get his boat out to sea.
When i built my dock, the Corp of Engineers had to approve the design before the county would issue a permit. I would assume the same would apply to any changes to the original approved design.
According to maps: the old man, along with his neighbor on his left side, have possibly built their docks docks too far to the right... blocking water access to the young mans property. The young man, like the old man, paid good money for their properties and deserve the access they are legally entitled to.
@@nancyhoward7005 Most homeowner insurance on water doesn't cover boat docks for good reason, the average home would file claims at least one or more times a year lol
If I could no longer access my slip I would just anchor my boat behind his slip. He wouldn’t get his boat out unless I decided to take mine out. What’s good for the goose.
Dude, you'd lose your boat. The point is, your dock should be built so that after leaving the dock you stay on your water and then the public right of way. If you build a dock on a property line, then set the slip up so you have to go across someone elses property to get to your dock - you're going to have a hard time of things.
There are two reasonable sides here and I agree with both people, but my question would be why is a bigger dock needed? If its just for appearance then I would say he is in the wrong, now if its because he needs it to accommodate a bigger boat then he is in the right.
So many people that are angry with the old man for complaining. We don't know the whole story. If the old mans dock was built under an old code it would be grandfathered in under the old code. If he has to modify it because the new dock forces him to then he would have to bring it up to code. The county should come out and survey the situation and help them resolve the problem. Also Lee county code say that any structure or moored boat should not block access to adjacent properties so the young guy could be screwed.
I don't think this is a "built to code" issue. It looks like the two docks are at angle from each other. It also appears that the new dock is significantly longer than the older dock. By doing that, it is built right in front of the older dock.
The statue only applies to legally permitted and build docks...It's not grandfathered, it's just that it never came up before the sale of one o the 2 houses.
The docks were built on Michael's property. As stated in the beginning if you have to drive through your neighbors property to access your driveway that requires an easement. I've seen garages cut in 1/2 because they were on someone else's property.
Just because you CAN be an jerk doesn't mean you need to be. The older guy(s) might have plenty of time to figure out some petty ways to irritate the younger guy, though, whether through legal technicalities or otherwise. That seems to be part of a lot of these neighbor dispute videos I seem to have gotten roped into lately.
You are what is wrong with this country period. Laws who needs them. I’m sure you would be perfectly happy with a neighbor building a driveway across yours. Then when you tried to correct it and the neighbor complained you would just say okay. You are an idiot.
@Jeff Young Using what is there is one thing. Adding on and causing problems is another. It's the same as people with 6 teens who each have a car (!) buying a house with a narrow 15' driveway, and expecting the neighbors to be okay with their kids and the kids' friends parking all over the neighbors' lawns, blocking their driveways and mailboxes, playing loud music and screeching until after midnight in the street. Would you be okay with that, too? To me, a good neighbor would have purchased house and property according to the current family requirements of a huge driveway, 4-car garage and parking in their own yard, and not have expected the neighbors to provide solutions or put up with the overflow.
@Jeff Young Is this the same dock? "The residence that would be served by the dock is located on a nearby street. McGuigan is owner and partner at The Firestone, Los Cabos Cantina in Fort Myers, and Ford's Garage." "What's more important, a bigger dock or being friends/ getting along with with your neighbors?"
Look, if he is up to code then he is up to code. The codes need to be changed otherwise. I had a neighbor call the town with concerns about the setbacks of a shed I was building. I was good, but he was not. When they arrived they noticed his carport/storage building was on the property line, violating code. He thought his building was grandfathered in, but found out it was not. Had to move it 10 ft. Research before accusing.
Pause at 1:18 and you can read the permit that said approval is only granted if doesn't encroach on another property owner's riparian rights. So while he has a permit, what he's doing negates the scope of the permit based on the wording whether their docks were up to current code or not. It specifically states that it doesn't provide an opinion nor take into consideration of the riparian rights, just that it acknowledges that the scope of work he is doing meets current codes. If they go to court, he would lose the case based on the fact that the old guy's dock was there prior to the new work done on his and remained that way uncontested for a long time.
The issue never came up because no one ever sold their house. Being there first is not grounds for any defense in a property matter. It is an illegal structure, no one denies that. The old-timer has to tread lightly or they may force him to bring his dock to code or demolish it. His defense is based on sympathy alone.
@@MariaMaria-dw1sn You don't know your butt from a hole in the ground. Neighbor has a garage a foot on my land. Was there before I bought the property. Had it rezoned and found this out. Because I pay taxes on that land, and it has to be for at least seven years, If it ever gets remodeled or rebuilt, I can put and end to that. You ever hear of an easement? My guess is NO.
If the old man's dock isn't built to code, and uses his younger neighbor's section of the canal to access his dock...that provision would not work in the old man's favor.
Same kind of thing happened to me. I wanted to buy a stunning country cottage but if I wanted to shuttle in cattle or let my friends drive their or my vehicles onto my land. I had to ask for permission to drive over a meter of my new neighbours land. So in the end I chose not to move there.
The county doesn't run the water ways. That's the State. State supersedes County. Old man needs to go to the Department of Land and Natural Resources at tge State Building
not included in this report is whether or not the other owners attempted any discussions to find out what exactly would be happening. if the 'rich guy' informed them but they didnt respond then its all on them
Wait, the guy who is complaining has a doc that is not in compliance? If he's the one who's not in compliance, what is he complaining about? "Hey, I screwed up, now you have to accommodate me."
The young dude seems arrogant and unlikable but he may have a point in the others not having properly researched the legality of the situation. Sounds like a job for LAWYERMAN with his super powers to extract peoples money.
You're right, that Michael seems to be a real douch. Many times these older docks are not in modern day compliance but are "grandfathered in". The County is at fault here for granting the permit without visiting the property. And Michael's an a$$hole.
Just because someone has been shitting on your front lawn for the last 20 years while nobody lived on that property doesn't make it legal. Going by the same logic, just because someone has been keeping their boats on the property that you LEGALLY own for 20 years beforehand does not make it legal. As much as I symphatise with the grandpa here, his dock is built in an ilegal way.
@@istvankovacs4154 the problem is that they weren't built illegally twenty years ago. City revives it's codes and doesn't care what problems it created. And then a selfish neighbor moves in and doesn't care about neighborhood norms. So yeah, no law about being a jerk to your neighbors.
because the other docks aren't up to code. this story is about a grumpy old man who doesn't want to obey the law. he doesn't want to build his dock up to code while the young man is filing paper, getting permits, building his dock legally. the victim is the young man not the old man.
It may not be an issue with being up to code but how the docks were located and oriented on their water frontage previously that worked for everyone and now the new guy is legally changing the location &/or size of his that's causing the problem. Similar issues have happened when someone wanted to tear down an old house and build a new one bigger and closer to the neighbors. It impacts and changes the lives of the older residents but is totally legal. It can even be beneficial to to older residents because it usually boosts their property values - along with their property taxes.
I think most people commenting didn’t watch the story! New guy is building the way the code and covenants tell him to do it! All the other docs were built wrong he cannot get a permit to build his wrong he can only build his the way they approve!! The new guy has no choice either don’t build a dock or build they way everyone else was supposed to to begin with!
I wonder what the update is on this case. I feel bad for the older neighbor but the younger neighbor seemed able to prove that he was right and building within the codes.
Hope all the old guys neighbors are happy with him...now everyone who does any improvements on their dock will more than likely have to pay to have a survey done
this looks like it could be a case of all the docs passed code enforcement when built originally but changing terms means rules have changed over time with the other docs being grandfathered this is more likely with all the others being the same and only the new expanded one being different
the new dock may be in compliance as far as contruction goes, he may be in compliance, but that doesn't mean he's being a good neighbor. the ultimate fault lies with the original developer and how the lots were laid out.
Not necessarily. Whomever put in the old guys dock may have oriented it in a direction for the size of boats that were common at the time and it didn't interfere with the other dock. Now that the new guy is seeming expanding his legally, the old guy may be out of luck. He can probably still use his dock with some slight modifications but moving the boat lift would be the expensive part.
A gang of youths have declared my neighbourhood their "hood" and have "tagged" it to inform other gangs. At the time of writing, we have not found a solution.
@@carlspackler91 Or calling the police after gathering enough evidence through CCTV? I don't mean that I wouldn't hate being in such a situation, but as long as law and order stay in effect you should rather call your local law enforcement before making any rash decisions. There is a BIG difference between self defense and murder.
@@istvankovacs4154 No one mentioned murder. It was said half jokingly, but with a weapon as accurate as a .22 , you could teach them a quick lesson they wouldn't soon forget without risking their life.
@@carlspackler91 Shit, you don't even have to shoot it. The junkies that were breaking into my neighbors car never came back around after they seen me come out of my back gate into our joint driveway holding my Springfield xd.
There are plenty of stories of a city giving out a permit and later on the neighbor that the work infringes on is able to get an injunction or get the permit removed. Cities rubber stamp those permits sometimes by not doing the proper research.
"Its in compliance, otherwise i dont think the county would have issued a permit." Ok. You obviously have no idea the of the ineptitude of government employees
Hey young pup..you haven't been around long enough to know that the "homework" changes from time to time.. you haven't even been around long enough to know what being neighboorly is about let alone just being decent
@Jessi Louis sure we can play the what if game and assume everything..throw non existent scenarios out and hope to strike a nerve..if your comment came true then you would be on here commenting the opposite of what you said..have you ever owned property on water?..shit changes..again you probably don't know that because you haven't been in that scenario..or even heard of something like this before..you do realize that government "officials" are responsible for the property lines, easements and all that..there's no way the city or county or state didn't mess up right?.. probably never heard of that before either
@Jessi Louis so you agree with me on the young man then..move on. If you don't like how I commented then thumbs down and move along with life..how is Florida by the way? Cold up here in Wisconsin
@Jessi Louis I believe you are the one that can't handle reading a comment without being triggered..and on something about age?..holy shit you read to much into someone's comment..hey this guy is a piece a shit cuz he said young pup..generalizing someone because of age..get a life key board warrior
In Washington I think there would be standing to claim usage of the out of codes docks cannot be infringed if they have been used for 7+ years that way. The same laws that say if part of your property includes a path commonly used by the public to access the beach and you post nothing to deter them then after 7 years of use it is still your property but the public has legal president to expect access.
Michael calls police. There's a problem. Roofing nails keep being strewn in front of my driveway and in my yard. My boat has holes drilled into the bottom. Police: Yeah, we checked that out but we can't find any perps. Thanks for calling.
@@SurgeMMO did you comment without actually watching the video? the homeowner extended his dock--which was in legal compliance both before and after the proposed extension. then neighbor's dock was NOT in compliance and BECAUSE it was not in compliance it restricted his access if/when the compliant dock was extended. This is pretty basic shit here. How is it that you fail to grasp what is going on here?
Samuel Iam Yes I watched it and yes I understand what’s going on. This new owner is extending his dock. He’s making the dock as big as he’s permitted. The older docks that are in situ where built before the new codes where instated. While he is not doing anything illegal he has now docked other docks. His actions have had negative impacts on his neighbour and community. That is why I said it’s morally wrong.
@@SurgeMMO first, where did you get the impression that the older docks were built before new codes were instated. old or new, all docks are required to be up to code. and I think you better get yourself a dictionary and look up the word 'morality.'
THIS is why you submit dock plans and get them approved BEFORE building a dock. The younger man is building within his right-of-way and may need it that big for his boat. Sorry, but the neighbor is in the wrong. You can't dictate how someone will build on THEIR property just because YOU screwed up.
The young guy is within code and has every right to his project. The old guy has known forever that his dock wasn't in compliance but just didn't want to spend the money to correct it.
The old guy is being considerate of his neighbors. To correct the dock would block his neighbors until they also corrected theirs. This isn't "not up to code", these docks are old and we're in compliance originally, grandfathered into new code. But if new guy wants to be bad neighbors, I would have been more than happy to make his life a living hell.
The guy building the dock has never had his ass kicked that's obvious.
Why should he? He's on his own property. It's not his fault his neighbors don't know where their property lines are. He can put his dock 1/2 an inch from the property line if he wants. It's HIS property. The old man is just going to have to move his dock over. The guy gave him a 6 month notice of intent. Letting him know he was going to expand his dock. The old man should've moved his dock instead of being a prick and going to the media. He's just showing how stupid he is. Just Sayin'!
rockit730 and tootsiesCreationz, there’s no reason to build the extension though! And for him to say that if the old man had “done his homework before he brought the house, he might’ve seen an issue down the road” is complete bullshit. Who plans out for what “could” possibly happen if you get shitty neighbors? Like get real people
The generation of inconsiderate a holes will get theirs when Earl and his neighbors anchor their boats blocking him
ski man what's wrong with you the young man is legally extending his dock? The older man has the audacity to complain about the young man's legal dock while his dock is illegal!!
@@Kirbykin88 you moron if you had the money to live the lifestyle as these people and you wanted to legally extend your dock you would do so. It comes down to buyer beware.fool.
Oh no , my neighbor's new dock is on fire
Lol
That's a good one! lol
imagine that
shane prescott, shame , terrible shame ! lol
My exact thought when I watched this. 👍
Nothing like moving in and instantly become the jackass of the neiborhood😢
You mean the guy that's correct? Maybe the others should have checked before they bought.
@@bluej854 , It’s called being a good neighbor.
@@bluej854 because he legally can doesnt mean its right makes you a bit of an a-hole
Honestly, if you're only going to be there temporarily, it's kinda fun lol
@@bluej854 It's called due diligence. Also what prospective buyer doesn't have the property surveyed prior to purchase. I'm sure the lawyers would have required it.
This was 3 years ago and I bet the reporter is still waiting to hear back from the county on "Monday".
Work with your neighbor, man. Don’t be that guy. 🤦♂️
some neighbors are just F-ked--- can't "work" with an idiot---Stay the f- on your side of the fence ---NO Problems !
He already did. They wont comply
It's too late, he is that guy.
He just brought his dock to legal code and their docks aren’t to legal code and they won’t pay to bring it to code. Really not his fault. Maybe he will be using the waterfront commercially and needs it to pass and it wouldn’t have before.
And buy him a bra.
Those moobs!
Word to the wise. Never make enemies out of your neighbors.
If your neighbor is your enemy know the law and buy a shovel.
Thats something this young guy doesnt understand. Theres no amount of dock space worth being cussed out every time you go outside your house (even if its just a subtle look and middle finger every time).
Yah, there's a _lot_ of subtle ways to make his life miserable. Depending on the prevailing wind, dandelions are a good start. 😂
Two or three Weiner dogs, that have been taught not to like that one neighbor is good too.
Something like this happens in Bellair Florida a few years back and it got real nasty. Most of the people with docks have lived there for over 20+ years and a new person moves on to the street and pulled this stunt. There wasn't notice posted like there should have been and the city gave him the green light to replace his dock. It not only blocked two other docks next to him but on the other side of the water it stopped that person from leaving their dock " they had a 50' boat". The other homeowners sued. In the end, he had to remove the dock because all the older docks were grandfathered in before new codes went into effect. The local news found out the man worked for a company owned by City's planning commissioner and that's why he got the green light so fast.
People seem to think vacant land is there for the taking .... It's a childish and self-entitled attitude
This sounds just about as I expected (see below). It sounded like someone had a lot of free time on his hands to do the research needed to figure out - how to screw your neighbors, legally, with the amount of least effort. Like they say, idle hands are the devils workshop.
~.... The local news found out the man worked for a company owned by City's planning commissioner and that's why he got the green light so fast....~
A good Real Estate Agent ...must of told him, warned him of the repercussions.
I bet there is a document that talks about grandfathering in new builds.
The “screw you jack, I’m ok” syndrome. Very common.
There is something to be said about being a good neighbor.
They put up good fences. And stay on their side.
This is Florida, there are no good neighbors, just "florida man".
the wise person talk because he's got something to say,
the fool, because he has to say something
sounds like a dock measuring contest to me 🤣
Everyone wants a big dock.
@@yavin99 big dock energy
You know what they say about guys with big boats, they got big docks!
compensation for shortcomings, IMO.
Sounds like he's going to have problems with his property in the near future.
The guy expanding his dock may be in the right legally but morally he is bankrupt. To do that to his neighbour is mean and crappy. The bully on the lake.
Especially considering he is an older guy. Like really dude, "He should have done his homework?"
I bet Michael was the best hall monitor ever.
Maybe the docks were built to the codes of the time and are grandfathered in?
They would have been, as with nearly all non commercial constructions/properties. Imagine having to modify your house every 2 years or so to meet new insulation, tornado resistance or fire ratings. Or your car.
@Chris Kibodeaux Yes there is, Actually even if the wood just needed replace than you could still be forced to change the entire dock to meet code.
@Chris Kibodeaux Yes there is a such thing as being grandfathered in, I have an apartment building that was build in 1908 that is less than three feet from my property line. My cities current code says you can not build structures with in 15 feet of a property line. You care to explain why this 1908 apartment building is still standing if it is not grandfathered in?
@@brianhaflin9799 I would disagree with that, Brian. Replacing existing structure exactly as it was before should not lose grandfathered status, it's considered normal upkeep and repair. Most structures will only need brought up to current codes if something gets altered from it's original design.
@Charles Ng They will get the finger, especially if they honk. I mean why, with all the available space-time in the universe, would someone have an ego that he is entitled to an already occupied by me?
Rich people problems...
Yup I live in the city and our problem is finding parking for our car 🚗 🙃.... we have a neighbor that when he goes out he takes a car that is parked in the street brings out one of his many POS cars from his driveway and parks it in its place till he comes back ..
I will never have to worry about shit like this
@@Mr_brut3 if he has a driveway why doesn't the park there?
@@rogerwatkins8557 he does ,for some reason nobody but his family can park in front of his house even though its a public street !
meanwhile, in the lives of the 99% 😒
"Imagine having to drive over your neighbors property."
So an easement.
So a little rich boy moves into the neighborhood and then decides to throw his weight around and bully his elderly retired neighbors who are struggling to survive on a fixed income. Then hides behind the law to excuse his harassment! This guy needs to be taken "behind the schoolhouse" and taught a lesson in respecting his elders.
That kids wants and needs are more important than everyone else’s. Something as important as a dock is reasonable to turn all the neighbors lifes upside down. His parents must be so proud of him.
Needs his arrogant ass kicked. Punk.
Parents are probably just like him. No courtesy for others.
@@jeffreyyankee9714 Yup. He learned it from somewhere. Entitled Dick. He would be very sorry where I'm from.
How does something as unimportant as a dock turn someone's life upside down?
@@astroknight5 fyi, some make a living on the water so this could get ugly real quick.
His deck would be catching fire in the middle of the night.
Remember to wear a hood, cameras everywhere, lol
@@grangerdavid321 dont worry David a ski mask would do the trick.
And your house would be ketching on fire in the middle of the night and have bullets flying at it as well.
@@chaseviking5096 ooh micheal here is getting TRIGGERED!!!!!!
And you'll be getting charged for it
So the neighbor wants a "bigger dock" than his neighbors' "docks" eh? Someone appears to be over compensating. 🤪
Bwahahaha!
I'll look into it and get back to you. That's what all of our upper management used to say. Of course, nothing ever came of anything.
The new guy moves in, and builds a bigger dock, to block off the established docks. The water isn't "his property" and there's such a thing as being neighborly.
I agree with being neighborly but the county wouldn't give permits if it wasn't possible to build in the water. I assume this is a man-made canal and rights to and in the water were given to the homeowners when the homes were built.
The new guy is just building a bigger dock and has the permits to do so. He is not doing it to block anybody. He just wants a bigger dock. The water is not his property, true. But that has nothing to do with the construction of the dock on his property. Explain how he is taking the water as his. The old man is complaining because he knows he does not have a legal leg to stand on and he is wrong. Being neighborly is not calling the news to air your dirty laundry in public or to try to get sympathy when you are in the wrong. It is not the young man's fault the old man can not read a contract or research before buying.
When my neighbor put up his privacy fence he went all the way to the alley blocking me from being able to pull my camper in to the back yard so i had to have my alley leveled and graveled so i could back in (small town i own my section of alley ie my responsibility) the fact of the matter is complaining wont do anything but cause drama he doesn't have a leg to stand on.
DID you even hear the story? That is NOT what happened. The man who made the new dock is building legally and in compliance with county codes and on his property. The neighbors docks were NOT built in compliance with codes thus is making the conflict with the new dock. THAT IS NOT THE NEW GUYS FAULT .To fix the neighbors dock and make them compliant, would solve the issue, but would cost a lot of money. The neighbor does not want to spend the money so he is trying to go after the new guy who is doing everything by the book.
I see nothing wrong here, sad that a dock built who knows how long ago wasn’t done correctly but this sure isn’t the person who’s expanding their docks fault. That’s taking away their freedom, if ya got a boat and a dock you can probably afford fixing it. It’s your problem, not his at that point.
Well if the young fella was obstructing my dock with his dock, eventually he would get tired of having to rebuild his dock. 😳
Well Don, except for code likes to change every few years, so the prior docks were likely to code at the time of their construction. Code tends to be more about revenue than safety. Most places allow for a grandfather claus, which should protect the older docks. But the new docks code , while legal, may cause an obstruction. The solution is for the existing docks to have to be modified. Modifications that likely require a permit. Then to be modified or altered means they lose their grandfather status and would have to comply with new code. Seems like a raw deal to the owners that already paid to build docks to the then code, to be forced to meet the new code.
It isn't his fault that the other neighbor's docks were not built in compliance to codes which is what is causing this problem.
@mark bender , You are 100% correctamundo !
@don...i agree with you. So because he purchased property and wants to update his dock but cant because it would block a neighbor who apparently isnt compliant with his dock. Why should he be punished not to be able to do his property he wants. So dumb dumb would burn down his dock go to jail for it and forfeit any chance to go boating again...u ppl are stupid so tough at a computer saying what u would do...acting all manly.
And in short order, you'd be in jail, and he'd own your house and dock
Good to know his company is called BS technology because this guy is talking BS
i don't see update, but i bet this is Earls end of life last home, been there a longtime already and all the other docks have been setup sameway, long before some code was enacted, now new young man is upgrading to what code is and he did give notice. not sure why they didn't consider combining and docks and make it work for both without screwing all the neighbors and causing a chain reaction of upgrades for all. and still be good human beings toward each other.
I'm 68 now but at one time I had a docking rights problem. My mom solved the problem by draining the tub and making me go to bed.
Hahaha
The county could care less as long as someone keep paying fees
Curly servicestate “Could care less”??? So that means they DO care SOME?
@@caralama08 wow you can read
No, the county had guidelines and the other properties did NOT follow them..
The existing docks should be grandfathered in. The young guy is just being a jerk.
So the guy who’s following all the rules is in the wrong?
@The Emperor Protects but he literally explains why he’s not wrong both legally and morally. He has a right to build on his own property. He’s legally right because he submitted his plans and everything was to code. Morally he’s right because as he explains, it’s the buyers responsibility to see if the house you are buying is properly inspected to make sure everything is to code. The reporter even looked it up and found that he was correct. Was does the burden fall on the guy who did everything right and not the ones who did everything wrong?
@The Emperor Protects but the disruption is the fault of the other neighbors. They clearly say in the vid, that the other neighbors docks are not within the code. If they were, then this guys dock would not be interfering with their docks. So you can’t say just because the others are inconvenienced that this guy is some how incorrect. Now that’s the end of it.
@The Emperor Protects you too
@@supertrooper1600 All of the docks were up to code when they were originally put in. I guarantee it. Somewhere along the line, some law changed and now this bullshit happens.
"My neighbors should have known an asshole might move in and block their dock access" certainly does not make you morally right. You might be a psychopath.
My neighbour bought a mercedes the same colour as mine. Isn't that disgusting.
My neigbour added another story to his mansion and now my mansion doesn't get that beautiful vista we had.
But at least we do loathe poor people. So we have something in common.
In places like Bellevue area of Washington State, air space is as valuable as lot space. Building up can get you sued.
The old saying " why cant people leave things alone "
knightchallenger 20 20
if it ain’t broken don’t fix it
Because he is free to use his property any legal way he wants..
Cause it’s my property and I get to do what I want with it.
"in his cowboy boots". What did his cowboy boots do?
This would be much, much clearer if it was on land what is actually going on, and it would be clear that the original neighbor is in the wrong.
When you live on a lake, your property lines usually extend into the water. The dock itself probably doesn't encroach from the sounds of it, but the access does. In other words, the first dock was using the neighbor's property as a "driveway" for his boat.
Also, it looks like they are on a concave curve. So ANY dock added will crowd the surrounding docks. If your existing dock prevents your neighbor from being able to build his own because it wasn't built correctly, and you're using *his* property to access *your* dock, you're not just equally culpable. You're fully culpable. The new owner notified his neighbors of the encroachment, and they didn't do anything about it, possibly because they knew their dock was built wrong. Unless he bought and recorded an easement to use his neighbor's land to access his dock, he is in the wrong and has to move his dock.
finally somebody who hasn't smoked meth to complete mental failure
Looks like the existing dock guy was using the new dock guy's access point, and the other neighbors down the way did the same thing. A domino effect. New guy comes in and does what everybody else should have done in the first place.
Finally a voice of reason, the old guy expanded his dock and expected the owner of the right of way to just give it up !
The one who’s going to have problems is the neighbour extending his dock with the rest of his neighbours for as long as he lives there
Well, he is just going to turn around and sell the property for a hefty profit.
And his dock might catch fire in the middle middle of the night too
Nope. All the neibors who have illegal docks including Earl are going to have problems because of Earl being a entitled spoiled old brat. The problems are going to come from the county which is going to make the fix their docks or the county removes them and the neibors pay more than it would have coast to fix their docks.
@@mae7203 and Earl will be charged with arson and spend the rest of his spoiled entitled old life in prison.
Chase Viking yeah well the neighbour extending his dock won’t have much use for it when his boat is sunk
I dont understand news reporters doing an incomplete story ;(
Get back to me on monday
Well then do your story on monday !!!!
Thank you!
And now .. 2 years later ... 🤔
You don't understand, because you don't run a newsroom. Simply, they want people coming back for the story, of course they are going to give a piece now and then more later, its called a business.
jtheobbles86 They’re. 👍😉
His dad flushed the best part of that AH
I remember paying an extra $1000 dollars to the club because my yacht was 2 inches too long! Unreal. I changed clubs and got me some friends!
I’m so sad that wealthy people in the most expensive place to live in the country are having problems with their luxury docks.
...hahaha good one
Miss the point much?
@@mdeluco4675 nope. I got it. 😂 I suppose you missed the sarcasm…
It appears to be an issue of what happens when or If the new guys boat is stored or "lifted"out of the water?
Those boat guys don't want the stains, maintenance required if the boats stay afloat - especially in bad weather.
the 'new guy' is causing a ripple effect all down the access way. I wonder if its a tidal thing or a real issue?
Wait a few years....Global warming will fix the problem - Maybe?... rising tide lifts all boats.
All you do is find a neighbor that lives in-between the new dock and the gulf, fundraise for his dock improvement project, and make it so Micheal can't get his boat out to sea.
"If you're in a dispute with another party and you can't seem to work things out, don't take the law into your own hands; you take 'em to court."
If going to court does not fix the problem, then quietly take the law into your own hands. Accidents happen all the time.
How did this end? Did the young guy finish his dock as planned? Did the Neighbors modify their docks to be up to code?
Leave it to the government......."I'm busy now, I'll get back with you later.....if ever."
Always nice to have a south end of a horse headed north neighbor.
When i built my dock, the Corp of Engineers had to approve the design before the county would issue a permit.
I would assume the same would apply to any changes to the original approved design.
According to maps: the old man, along with his neighbor on his left side, have possibly built their docks docks too far to the right... blocking water access to the young mans property. The young man, like the old man, paid good money for their properties and deserve the access they are legally entitled to.
Exactly
His project would mysteriously catch fire in the middle of the night
James Pipkins good idea but he would just get richer on insurance. Probably why he did it
@@nancyhoward7005 - not if you make it look like he did it.
@@jimb9369 My thoughts exactly. Hot time on the old dock tonight. Take his boat too.
@@nancyhoward7005 Most homeowner insurance on water doesn't cover boat docks for good reason, the average home would file claims at least one or more times a year lol
Fuckin Eh right!!!!
Great way to make friends with the neighbors.
If I could no longer access my slip I would just anchor my boat behind his slip. He wouldn’t get his boat out unless I decided to take mine out. What’s good for the goose.
And you'd be impounded, as you're occupying his property. Acting cute doesn't yield positive results.
Dude, you'd lose your boat. The point is, your dock should be built so that after leaving the dock you stay on your water and then the public right of way. If you build a dock on a property line, then set the slip up so you have to go across someone elses property to get to your dock - you're going to have a hard time of things.
There are two reasonable sides here and I agree with both people, but my question would be why is a bigger dock needed? If its just for appearance then I would say he is in the wrong, now if its because he needs it to accommodate a bigger boat then he is in the right.
So many people that are angry with the old man for complaining. We don't know the whole story. If the old mans dock was built under an old code it would be grandfathered in under the old code. If he has to modify it because the new dock forces him to then he would have to bring it up to code. The county should come out and survey the situation and help them resolve the problem.
Also Lee county code say that any structure or moored boat should not block access to adjacent properties so the young guy could be screwed.
I don't think this is a "built to code" issue. It looks like the two docks are at angle from each other. It also appears that the new dock is significantly longer than the older dock. By doing that, it is built right in front of the older dock.
The statue only applies to legally permitted and build docks...It's not grandfathered, it's just that it never came up before the sale of one o the 2 houses.
The docks were built on Michael's property. As stated in the beginning if you have to drive through your neighbors property to access your driveway that requires an easement. I've seen garages cut in 1/2 because they were on someone else's property.
We were here first has nothing to do with it. The dock that's restricted is in the wrong. NO question.
He could always sell his boat to pay for the dock repair...
Just because you CAN be an jerk doesn't mean you need to be. The older guy(s) might have plenty of time to figure out some petty ways to irritate the younger guy, though, whether through legal technicalities or otherwise. That seems to be part of a lot of these neighbor dispute videos I seem to have gotten roped into lately.
The inconsiderate and greedy nature of the rich, knows no limits!
@Jeff Young Absolutely correct but that's not the case here! Clearly not!
So the old guy is greedy because he didn't renew his dock according to regulations to save his money? And now caused his neighbor trouble.
You are what is wrong with this country period. Laws who needs them. I’m sure you would be perfectly happy with a neighbor building a driveway across yours. Then when you tried to correct it and the neighbor complained you would just say okay. You are an idiot.
@Jeff Young Using what is there is one thing. Adding on and causing problems is another. It's the same as people with 6 teens who each have a car (!) buying a house with a narrow 15' driveway, and expecting the neighbors to be okay with their kids and the kids' friends parking all over the neighbors' lawns, blocking their driveways and mailboxes, playing loud music and screeching until after midnight in the street. Would you be okay with that, too? To me, a good neighbor would have purchased house and property according to the current family requirements of a huge driveway, 4-car garage and parking in their own yard, and not have expected the neighbors to provide solutions or put up with the overflow.
@Jeff Young Is this the same dock? "The residence that would be served by the dock is located on a nearby street. McGuigan is owner and partner at The Firestone, Los Cabos Cantina in Fort Myers, and Ford's Garage." "What's more important, a bigger dock or being friends/ getting along with with your neighbors?"
He apparently modified the dock.Google maps shows all three still have access.check it out at 5980 baker ct fort myers fl 33919
Look, if he is up to code then he is up to code. The codes need to be changed otherwise. I had a neighbor call the town with concerns about the setbacks of a shed I was building. I was good, but he was not. When they arrived they noticed his carport/storage building was on the property line, violating code. He thought his building was grandfathered in, but found out it was not. Had to move it 10 ft. Research before accusing.
Pause at 1:18 and you can read the permit that said approval is only granted if doesn't encroach on another property owner's riparian rights. So while he has a permit, what he's doing negates the scope of the permit based on the wording whether their docks were up to current code or not. It specifically states that it doesn't provide an opinion nor take into consideration of the riparian rights, just that it acknowledges that the scope of work he is doing meets current codes. If they go to court, he would lose the case based on the fact that the old guy's dock was there prior to the new work done on his and remained that way uncontested for a long time.
The issue never came up because no one ever sold their house. Being there first is not grounds for any defense in a property matter. It is an illegal structure, no one denies that. The old-timer has to tread lightly or they may force him to bring his dock to code or demolish it. His defense is based on sympathy alone.
@@MariaMaria-dw1sn You don't know your butt from a hole in the ground. Neighbor has a garage a foot on my land. Was there before I bought the property. Had it rezoned and found this out. Because I pay taxes on that land, and it has to be for at least seven years, If it ever gets remodeled or rebuilt, I can put and end to that. You ever hear of an easement? My guess is NO.
If the old man's dock isn't built to code, and uses his younger neighbor's section of the canal to access his dock...that provision would not work in the old man's favor.
Soo it sounds like the county is at fault and let people build wherever in the water
They say it’s not the size of the dock which is important,
It’s the power of the motor that creates the motion in the ocean 🌊
Same kind of thing happened to me. I wanted to buy a stunning country cottage but if I wanted to shuttle in cattle or let my friends drive their or my vehicles onto my land. I had to ask for permission to drive over a meter of my new neighbours land. So in the end I chose not to move there.
their should have been an easement, usually you can't sell landlocked property !1
The county doesn't run the water ways. That's the State. State supersedes County. Old man needs to go to the Department of Land and Natural Resources at tge State Building
But the law says I can be an asshole so that's what I'm going to be!!!!!!
how is he being an asshole, it is the neighbors that are out of compliance, or did you just comment on the title ?.
Unfortunately, when he needs help or his house is on fire, he’s going to be out of luck. Human nature.
Brady H you don,t need a law to be an asshole.
or is it the old fool is stupid and doesn't understand his dock isn't done correctly.
not a question it was a statement.
not included in this report is whether or not the other owners attempted any discussions to find out what exactly would be happening. if the 'rich guy' informed them but they didnt respond then its all on them
Starving people around the world. These guys fighting about boat docking..lol
People starving around the world, and here you are watching a video and typing about people fighting about boat docking. Good logic.
Wait, the guy who is complaining has a doc that is not in compliance? If he's the one who's not in compliance, what is he complaining about?
"Hey, I screwed up, now you have to accommodate me."
The young dude seems arrogant and unlikable but he may have a point in the others not having properly researched the legality of the situation. Sounds like a job for LAWYERMAN with his super powers to extract peoples money.
David Stutz hey now I like lawyers and their useful powers lol but that is a funny one
You're right, that Michael seems to be a real douch. Many times these older docks are not in modern day compliance but are "grandfathered in". The County is at fault here for granting the permit without visiting the property. And Michael's an a$$hole.
Just because someone has been shitting on your front lawn for the last 20 years while nobody lived on that property doesn't make it legal. Going by the same logic, just because someone has been keeping their boats on the property that you LEGALLY own for 20 years beforehand does not make it legal. As much as I symphatise with the grandpa here, his dock is built in an ilegal way.
@@istvankovacs4154 the problem is that they weren't built illegally twenty years ago. City revives it's codes and doesn't care what problems it created. And then a selfish neighbor moves in and doesn't care about neighborhood norms. So yeah, no law about being a jerk to your neighbors.
@@istvankovacs4154 Actually that could create an easement...
How can he get a permit that allows him to close off the other docks ?
because the other docks aren't up to code.
this story is about a grumpy old man who doesn't want to obey the law.
he doesn't want to build his dock up to code while the young man is filing paper, getting permits, building his dock legally.
the victim is the young man not the old man.
It may not be an issue with being up to code but how the docks were located and oriented on their water frontage previously that worked for everyone and now the new guy is legally changing the location &/or size of his that's causing the problem. Similar issues have happened when someone wanted to tear down an old house and build a new one bigger and closer to the neighbors. It impacts and changes the lives of the older residents but is totally legal. It can even be beneficial to to older residents because it usually boosts their property values - along with their property taxes.
You didn’t watch the whole video did you?
I think most people commenting didn’t watch the story!
New guy is building the way the code and covenants tell him to do it! All the other docs were built wrong he cannot get a permit to build his wrong he can only build his the way they approve!!
The new guy has no choice either don’t build a dock or build they way everyone else was supposed to to begin with!
Don't code inspectors check these situations out???
I wonder what the update is on this case. I feel bad for the older neighbor but the younger neighbor seemed able to prove that he was right and building within the codes.
Hope all the old guys neighbors are happy with him...now everyone who does any improvements on their dock will more than likely have to pay to have a survey done
I can see it now -"fear they neighbor" waterway edition😂💯
John Ayers love that show,man.Be careful with fucking neighbors,never know what the hell is going in someone’s life.👍🏽
gl if he is ever in trouble. neighbors just gonna sit and watch on lawn chairs
Like neighbors could really give a damn.. Yea right they would help.. But i would..
I can't imagine living that close to someone
this looks like it could be a case of all the docs passed code enforcement when built originally but changing terms means rules have changed over time with the other docs being grandfathered this is more likely with all the others being the same and only the new expanded one being different
the new dock may be in compliance as far as contruction goes, he may be in compliance, but that doesn't mean he's being a good neighbor. the ultimate fault lies with the original developer and how the lots were laid out.
Not necessarily. Whomever put in the old guys dock may have oriented it in a direction for the size of boats that were common at the time and it didn't interfere with the other dock. Now that the new guy is seeming expanding his legally, the old guy may be out of luck. He can probably still use his dock with some slight modifications but moving the boat lift would be the expensive part.
one neighbor I had tried to say that a small street next to his property was his driveway . he removed the street sign. I fixed that real quick
A gang of youths have declared my neighbourhood their "hood" and have "tagged" it to inform other gangs. At the time of writing, we have not found a solution.
@@PenisMcWhirtar.22 long rifle??
@@carlspackler91 Or calling the police after gathering enough evidence through CCTV? I don't mean that I wouldn't hate being in such a situation, but as long as law and order stay in effect you should rather call your local law enforcement before making any rash decisions. There is a BIG difference between self defense and murder.
@@istvankovacs4154 No one mentioned murder. It was said half jokingly, but with a weapon as accurate as a .22 , you could teach them a quick lesson they wouldn't soon forget without risking their life.
@@carlspackler91 Shit, you don't even have to shoot it. The junkies that were breaking into my neighbors car never came back around after they seen me come out of my back gate into our joint driveway holding my Springfield xd.
There are plenty of stories of a city giving out a permit and later on the neighbor that the work infringes on is able to get an injunction or get the permit removed. Cities rubber stamp those permits sometimes by not doing the proper research.
One would think that the older docks would be grandfathered if they met compliance when built.
"Its in compliance, otherwise i dont think the county would have issued a permit." Ok. You obviously have no idea the of the ineptitude of government employees
🤣 I love it when rich people fight with each other
Sounds like the neighbors weren't in compliance. Sucks to be them
A fair, impartial, and intelligent judge can fix these issues easily you would think?
Hey young pup..you haven't been around long enough to know that the "homework" changes from time to time.. you haven't even been around long enough to know what being neighboorly is about let alone just being decent
@Jessi Louis sure we can play the what if game and assume everything..throw non existent scenarios out and hope to strike a nerve..if your comment came true then you would be on here commenting the opposite of what you said..have you ever owned property on water?..shit changes..again you probably don't know that because you haven't been in that scenario..or even heard of something like this before..you do realize that government "officials" are responsible for the property lines, easements and all that..there's no way the city or county or state didn't mess up right?.. probably never heard of that before either
@Jessi Louis so you agree with me on the young man then..move on. If you don't like how I commented then thumbs down and move along with life..how is Florida by the way? Cold up here in Wisconsin
@Jessi Louis I believe you are the one that can't handle reading a comment without being triggered..and on something about age?..holy shit you read to much into someone's comment..hey this guy is a piece a shit cuz he said young pup..generalizing someone because of age..get a life key board warrior
@Jessi Louis where did you get your psychology degree. I think you and this jerk should get married.
@Jessi Louis Both of you are dicks
He should get a permit that allows him to charge the other docks a toll while he’s at it
Username checks out lol
In Washington I think there would be standing to claim usage of the out of codes docks cannot be infringed if they have been used for 7+ years that way. The same laws that say if part of your property includes a path commonly used by the public to access the beach and you post nothing to deter them then after 7 years of use it is still your property but the public has legal president to expect access.
As long as the reporter (who hasn’t mastered ENGLISH) said dude was in compliance…..who are we to question that
There’s one in every neighborhood
Angel some times there is more than one. and they usually run together.
always some old bastard that complains about someone doing something legal.
Always gotta be one.
@@KingPossum Shut up stupid.
The county said they'd get back to me Monday, so I ran the story today instead...
Michael calls police. There's a problem. Roofing nails keep being strewn in front of my driveway and in my yard. My boat has holes drilled into the bottom.
Police: Yeah, we checked that out but we can't find any perps. Thanks for calling.
Well its been 4yrs... Still waiting on what the County has to say about the dock issue?
The county stands on the money he slid them under the table.
Legally right but morally wrong. Some people don’t see the distinction.
like you. youre a moron.
Samuel Iam why’s that then?
@@SurgeMMO did you comment without actually watching the video? the homeowner extended his dock--which was in legal compliance both before and after the proposed extension. then neighbor's dock was NOT in compliance and BECAUSE it was not in compliance it restricted his access if/when the compliant dock was extended. This is pretty basic shit here. How is it that you fail to grasp what is going on here?
Samuel Iam Yes I watched it and yes I understand what’s going on. This new owner is extending his dock. He’s making the dock as big as he’s permitted. The older docks that are in situ where built before the new codes where instated. While he is not doing anything illegal he has now docked other docks. His actions have had negative impacts on his neighbour and community. That is why I said it’s morally wrong.
@@SurgeMMO first, where did you get the impression that the older docks were built before new codes were instated. old or new, all docks are required to be up to code. and I think you better get yourself a dictionary and look up the word 'morality.'
This guy definitely loves docking with his neighbours.
They both came off as reasonable which is pretty rare
I could see his drain plug falling out.
I can see the drain plug being the only thing left...
Its not the size of your dock its how you use it 😉 👍
I get so frustrated with news stories that report before there is a resolution. What happened!?!?!?
THIS is why you submit dock plans and get them approved BEFORE building a dock. The younger man is building within his right-of-way and may need it that big for his boat. Sorry, but the neighbor is in the wrong. You can't dictate how someone will build on THEIR property just because YOU screwed up.
The young guy is within code and has every right to his project. The old guy has known forever that his dock wasn't in compliance but just didn't want to spend the money to correct it.
The old guy is being considerate of his neighbors. To correct the dock would block his neighbors until they also corrected theirs. This isn't "not up to code", these docks are old and we're in compliance originally, grandfathered into new code.
But if new guy wants to be bad neighbors, I would have been more than happy to make his life a living hell.
Let me file that in the "WHO GIVES A F**K" cabinet under "private neighbors' dispute that has absolutely nothing to do with me"
this is why your dock should be right in your own back yard, on private land. sadly these coves in FL are notoriously over populated
Remember we all get OLD at one point everything depending on how you treat your neighbors and others will eventually come back.
Biden is replacing them both, old or not.