The company I work for requires….. 1.Full size duty firearm. No compact or subcompact 2. 3 Magazines minimum of 10 rounds each 3. Level 3 retention holster I personally run a Glock 17 gen 3 with holosun slide optic and TLR 1 rail mounted light. Regardless of how people feel about Glocks, they are the “apple IPhone” of the gun world. No matter where you are, state, city etc, you can find anything you need for a Glock at a moments notice. That is simply not the case for many other honestly better firearms. Glock just has the market cornered for law enforcement and civilian use at this point, and to me that’s the safest bet. Be Great 👍
Solid points. Thank you for your input and perspective as always. The only problem I have with Glock is that Gen 1-3 is not a one-size fits every hand solution to every shooter. But…GEN 4-5 have interchangeable back straps and a narrower frame which allows a lot of shooters to now access the fire control and magazine release a lot easier. Just out of curiosity how long did it take you to feel comfortable manipulating your level three retention holster?
I would say Glocks are more like Toyota corollas of the gun world. Extremely reliable, easy to repair, well known, and plentiful in aftermarket parts. XD's are reliable like Glocks but with more features so they are like Lexus.
Just went from a Glock 17 to a beretta M9 both are 9mm. Knowing that most security guards have very little training I recommend a double action weapon to reduce the possibility of a negligent discharge.
I have a friend who is really well trained who carried a Glock 22 and he had a negligent discharge with it on duty. He's no longer employed in security and the police took his firearm and he may face charges in which he is waiting to find out if he's going to be charged or get his firearm back. The benefits of a striker fired weapon is easy to shoot. The disadvantage of a striker fired firearm is it's easy to shoot. The double action is a safety and as stated that many security guards have very little training some have no training do to instructors signing cards off it's advantageous to carry a safer firearm.
Always make sure you can obtain a level 2-3 retention holster for your your wespon. That includes optics and/or light. It sucks purchasing a gun then have a hard time finding a retention holster for it.
Im surprised you said dont use sleeves on your firearm. Talon Grips are known for being reliable sleeve grip. Check out reviews and their website. If they slip out "when you need it" then you haven't properly put them on. I would say they are better than stock because during the day your hands can sweat and grease up resulting in a slip. That is more probable than the sleeve itself coming off. I use them and never had a problem shooting even on a hot day at the outside range.
My company is pretty lenient on what gun you Cary I’m qualified for 9 40 45 38 and 357magnum but just make sure it’s a full size fire arm 4 inch barrel and whatever caliber your most accurate with no use in a big bullet you can’t accurately shoot
I’m thinking about doing security but I’m not sure but if I do Decide to go in that Field I will be looking in Consideration to carry a cz p10f and the M&p maybe Springfield xdm also but my holsters Choice would be a Safariland level 3 Holsters u can get them Custom made for your pacific type of pistol
Okay then... I want to go armed again, this would be level 3, in Texas. I'm currently level 2. I've currently got the cash to purchase a reasonably-priced pistol first. Because I'm a fairly novice shooter, and I had much muzzle lift issues with the .38 that I did own in the past? *Will security companies allow me to use a .22 pistol for a duty weapon?* I want to buy a .22 pistol with a competition-length barrel. Couple of reasons: -accuracy of weapon and round. -less likely to penetrate walls and vehicular sheetmetal. *I may go on to do hospital security soon* So wall penetration is a likely issue if I absolutely can't talk someone down. As per your very good advice, i am about to go see if I can find a level 2 holster for the Keltec cp33 I have been drooling at. (It's pretty, but the fun thing is it carries 33 rounds per magazine. I must master my weapon, so I can make many little holes in someone if I absolutely have to.)
@@grmpEqweer First off, thank you for being honest about yourself. It depends on the private security company that you go to. I don’t believe there are a lot of security companies who are reputable that will allow you to carry a .22. Your inability to keep the muzzle from “flipping” is an issue that I’ve struggled with in the past. You can easily overcome this issue with training and practice, but most of all using the right GRIP. If you were able to correct your grip, which I am confident you will, you can easily manage a 9mm. The majority of duty rated 9 mm that have a 4-inch barrel or longer are easily recoil manageable with the right GRIP. There’s a video that I recently saw, and I highly recommend that you subscribed to his channel. Here is the link: ruclips.net/video/rCxsrU4nYSM/видео.html
Is armed security allowed to have upgrades on a duty weapon. For example a 3lb pyramid trigger with threaded barrel kkm, i do have a trl1 light on it, magwell flare and plus 4 extension base plate. This weapon is a glock 22 gen 5
A 3" - >4" handgun will do fine and can be fired just as accurately as a 4" slide especially even more so if an optic is installed. What someone shoots the best and fits their hand trumps a larger gun that they'll struggle with. Recoil is subjective, and a 3.5"- 4" isn't necessarily going to have a noticeable difference in recoil. Please weight of the gun and model matters. A 21oz 4" Glock 19 might have more recoil than an all steel 3.5" 1911 officer model for an extreme example.
I've come across a security company that required a level 3 holster. Can't remeber the name but I'm sure it's has changed names since then. My duty weapon is an XD .40 With a Blackhawk Serpa Level 3. And you are correct. Lots of repetition to be able to draw without something catching.
Good information. I find it very interesting that I already know what all firearms you guys have based on your screen name 😂 😂 and our past conversations. Just one question I have is how long did it take you to feel comfortable using your level three holster?
@@crimbullet I would say about three weeks. My instructor had us use our own holster and unloaded firearm towards the end of the course and work out any issues. I did around 150 draws a day for the three weeks. Than I would practice draws periodically throughout the weeks to follow. Since I can shoot on my own land I was able to practice drawing and firing which is a no no on most ranges.
I always go with a Surefire 300X. My second choice would be Streamlight, followed by Modlite and then Nightstick. First find a holster, then find the light.
@@crimbullet Thank you sir for the information and taking the time to respond to me. I just recently looked into certification training for security work and hopefully soon will be able to pursue a career in that field.
Depending on a weapon mounted light source as a security officer is asinine. That means you have to always draw your firearm and flash anyone and everyone with the muzzle of the firearm in order to emulate the scene for any occasion. It's better to have a detached light source.
We’ve been recommending two light sources on this channel. A gun mounted light - only if trained appropriately- that almost never happens and secondly, the handheld light source to identify threats / non-threats without muzzling the non-threats.
Your absolutely correc sir.. I think it's uniform across the US for service pistols to have a 4" barrel. That's why I carry a g19 and a g17.
Mike just posted a follow up video that adds on to information I forget to mention: ruclips.net/video/QFhGCXKQ8uI/видео.html
The company I work for requires…..
1.Full size duty firearm. No compact or subcompact
2. 3 Magazines minimum of 10 rounds each
3. Level 3 retention holster
I personally run a Glock 17 gen 3 with holosun slide optic and TLR 1 rail mounted light.
Regardless of how people feel about Glocks, they are the “apple IPhone” of the gun world. No matter where you are, state, city etc, you can find anything you need for a Glock at a moments notice. That is simply not the case for many other honestly better firearms. Glock just has the market cornered for law enforcement and civilian use at this point, and to me that’s the safest bet.
Be Great 👍
Solid points. Thank you for your input and perspective as always. The only problem I have with Glock is that Gen 1-3 is not a one-size fits every hand solution to every shooter. But…GEN 4-5 have interchangeable back straps and a narrower frame which allows a lot of shooters to now access the fire control and magazine release a lot easier. Just out of curiosity how long did it take you to feel comfortable manipulating your level three retention holster?
I would say Glocks are more like Toyota corollas of the gun world. Extremely reliable, easy to repair, well known, and plentiful in aftermarket parts. XD's are reliable like Glocks but with more features so they are like Lexus.
Just went from a Glock 17 to a beretta M9 both are 9mm. Knowing that most security guards have very little training I recommend a double action weapon to reduce the possibility of a negligent discharge.
I have a friend who is really well trained who carried a Glock 22 and he had a negligent discharge with it on duty. He's no longer employed in security and the police took his firearm and he may face charges in which he is waiting to find out if he's going to be charged or get his firearm back. The benefits of a striker fired weapon is easy to shoot. The disadvantage of a striker fired firearm is it's easy to shoot. The double action is a safety and as stated that many security guards have very little training some have no training do to instructors signing cards off it's advantageous to carry a safer firearm.
As someone who been in the EP/close protection business since 07 with Gavin de Becker, I learned to use what works best for me.
Nice!!!!!!
Always make sure you can obtain a level 2-3 retention holster for your your wespon. That includes optics and/or light. It sucks purchasing a gun then have a hard time finding a retention holster for it.
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4' inch barrel minimum
My duty weapons are a G22, G17, and an XD9. All excellent.firearms in my opinion and trust with my life.
Nice guns!
Im surprised you said dont use sleeves on your firearm. Talon Grips are known for being reliable sleeve grip. Check out reviews and their website. If they slip out "when you need it" then you haven't properly put them on. I would say they are better than stock because during the day your hands can sweat and grease up resulting in a slip. That is more probable than the sleeve itself coming off. I use them and never had a problem shooting even on a hot day at the outside range.
Thanks for your input. Never thought about sleeves. The ones with poor quality are definitely a big no no .
Glock 34 9mm
Glock 17 9mm
Xd 9mm
M&p 9mm
10 mm for rural mountain areas
All hollow point
This is not pro advise.
Nice line up! Your obviously prepared with that 10 mm 😂
My company is pretty lenient on what gun you Cary I’m qualified for 9 40 45 38 and 357magnum but just make sure it’s a full size fire arm 4 inch barrel and whatever caliber your most accurate with no use in a big bullet you can’t accurately shoot
I agree 💯. Thank you for your input
I prefer Glocks or Smith Wesson M&Ps for duty. Not really a Sig guy, I tried a few, not really my preference dont like the high bore. Great video!!!
I’m thinking about doing security but I’m not sure but if I do Decide to go in that Field I will be looking in Consideration to carry a cz p10f and the M&p maybe Springfield xdm also but my holsters Choice would be a Safariland level 3 Holsters u can get them Custom made for your pacific type of pistol
You definitely have great style in pistols!
@@crimbullet thank you sir well Appreciate it love your Chanel by the way
Thank you very much!
What is YOUR private security DUTY weapon? Looking forward to the comments!
Currently Gen 3 Glock 21 with TRL1 HL, trijicon night sights, and a Blackhawk Epoch level 3 holster
Okay then...
I want to go armed again, this would be level 3, in Texas. I'm currently level 2.
I've currently got the cash to purchase a reasonably-priced pistol first.
Because I'm a fairly novice shooter, and I had much muzzle lift issues with the .38 that I did own in the past?
*Will security companies allow me to use a .22 pistol for a duty weapon?*
I want to buy a .22 pistol with a competition-length barrel.
Couple of reasons:
-accuracy of weapon and round.
-less likely to penetrate walls and vehicular sheetmetal.
*I may go on to do hospital security soon*
So wall penetration is a likely issue if I absolutely can't talk someone down.
As per your very good advice, i am about to go see if I can find a level 2 holster for the Keltec cp33 I have been drooling at.
(It's pretty, but the fun thing is it carries 33 rounds per magazine. I must master my weapon, so I can make many little holes in someone if I absolutely have to.)
@@grmpEqweer First off, thank you for being honest about yourself. It depends on the private security company that you go to. I don’t believe there are a lot of security companies who are reputable that will allow you to carry a .22. Your inability to keep the muzzle from “flipping” is an issue that I’ve struggled with in the past. You can easily overcome this issue with training and practice, but most of all using the right GRIP. If you were able to correct your grip, which I am confident you will, you can easily manage a 9mm. The majority of duty rated 9 mm that have a 4-inch barrel or longer are easily recoil manageable with the right GRIP. There’s a video that I recently saw, and I highly recommend that you subscribed to his channel. Here is the link: ruclips.net/video/rCxsrU4nYSM/видео.html
Walther PDP with holosun and TRL light on a Safariland Level 3 holster
@@alanphillips1610 nice! I was looking into purchasing one
Is armed security allowed to have upgrades on a duty weapon. For example a 3lb pyramid trigger with threaded barrel kkm, i do have a trl1 light on it, magwell flare and plus 4 extension base plate. This weapon is a glock 22 gen 5
Everything you asked is a yes, however, threaded barrels are not a legal item in California for pistols.
A 3" - >4" handgun will do fine and can be fired just as accurately as a 4" slide especially even more so if an optic is installed. What someone shoots the best and fits their hand trumps a larger gun that they'll struggle with.
Recoil is subjective, and a 3.5"- 4" isn't necessarily going to have a noticeable difference in recoil. Please weight of the gun and model matters. A 21oz 4" Glock 19 might have more recoil than an all steel 3.5" 1911 officer model for an extreme example.
Good info. A pistol is only as good as the holster it's carried in. Im tired on seeing guards carrying firearms in nylon airsoft holsters.
Wow! Airsoft holsters huh?!!
I've come across a security company that required a level 3 holster. Can't remeber the name but I'm sure it's has changed names since then.
My duty weapon is an XD .40
With a Blackhawk Serpa Level 3.
And you are correct. Lots of repetition to be able to draw without something catching.
Good information. I find it very interesting that I already know what all firearms you guys have based on your screen name 😂 😂 and our past conversations. Just one question I have is how long did it take you to feel comfortable using your level three holster?
@@crimbullet I would say about three weeks. My instructor had us use our own holster and unloaded firearm towards the end of the course and work out any issues. I did around 150 draws a day for the three weeks. Than I would practice draws periodically throughout the weeks to follow. Since I can shoot on my own land I was able to practice drawing and firing which is a no no on most ranges.
For the third one did u have to go thru the red dot training
@@jaypitts3100 Yes.
What are your recommendations for a light to attach on a handgun? Are there some lights better than others?
I always go with a Surefire 300X. My second choice would be Streamlight, followed by Modlite and then Nightstick. First find a holster, then find the light.
@@crimbullet Thank you sir for the information and taking the time to respond to me. I just recently looked into certification training for security work and hopefully soon will be able to pursue a career in that field.
Desert eagle.50 AE or nothing! .... Lol... I like 9mm Glocks myself and you should also always have a hood on your holster
The .50 AE will work definitely work against those zombies 🧟♂️ 😂
I just passed my firearms test and submitted application, do you know how long does it take for me to get permit?
60 days. I’m excited for you!
Thanks man I appreciate it that, thanks for the awesome videos they are a great help.
"I promise to keep politics out of this video"
Like button, hit.
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What about Kel-Tech
Which model?
I love it..
Thanks, I actually recorded it 3 weeks ago and did not remember to put it live until I saw your video 😂
@@crimbullet awsome
Depending on a weapon mounted light source as a security officer is asinine. That means you have to always draw your firearm and flash anyone and everyone with the muzzle of the firearm in order to emulate the scene for any occasion. It's better to have a detached light source.
We’ve been recommending two light sources on this channel. A gun mounted light - only if trained appropriately- that almost never happens and secondly, the handheld light source to identify threats / non-threats without muzzling the non-threats.