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STOP Using Cheap Audio Interfaces | APOGEE SYMPHONY IO MKII SPECIAL EDITION
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- Опубликовано: 5 авг 2024
- A video on Why You should STOP Using Cheap Audio Interfaces. Also why i switched to the APOGEE SYMPHONY IO MKII SPECIAL EDITION, works with any DAW i.e Pro tools, Logic, FL studio, Ableton, Cubase, Studio One etc. from your bedroom.
0:00 Intro
2:17 Expensive Converter Vs Cheap Converter
4:10 Mic Pre Amp Test
5:55 The Touch Screen
10:35 Inputs And Outputs
12:15 The Inspiration Behind The Piece
13:26 Option Cards
13:55 The Remote Control
16:08 Symphony Control App
20:15 Apogee Symphony Vs Prism Sound Titan
24:35 Conclusion
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Appreciate y’all!!! Glad to be here!
Got the Duet 3 because of his channel. Absolutely loving it. Coming from the SSL 2+ this was best upgrade along side with the Sony c80 🫠 Apogee Symphony is next once I find me a studio space to lock down.
@@ptwo4630 Let's go! Welcome to the family🙌
Bro, The picture comparison is the best, simplest, way to describe conversion, (Especially to a newbie) I've ever seen. GREAT WORK !! KEEP IT UP !!
there is a certain depth in the low end that i feel from the titan which i loved. The apogee was tighter but the lush feel of the titan. Man i loved it ...but the symphony sound stage and transient processing is really something. You have made a fan out of me for sure. Great video bro. Look forward to seeing more like this. The way in which you communicated your assessments was easy to understand and the blind tests were a very welcomed addition. Thank you for this.
Thanks so much for these videos! This channel has helped me so much along these past 4 years when it comes to producing and editing my own vocals. I always listened to the living weirdo covers since 2013. I currently am working on something really special to be released in October! A debut EP and it would not be possible without his vocal chains and mastering chains. A true Godsend
Dude I can't stress enough how proud I am of how far you've come. The quality the explanations the video in itself. I'm literally a minute in and I'm impressed with how good this video already is. Great job brodie!
Thank you so much for this. I’m going to keep making things better!
In a "real" studio situation, sure. You'll want your entry point to be as good as possible regardless, and this looks like a solid option. That being said, you do mention "bedroom" in the description, and for the vaaaaaaaast majority of people an interface that costs $6000 US is not even remotely viable. Most musicians that work from their home, outside of those who outright have proper studios at home, cheaper interfaces *will* be the better option. You'll get better audio quality, but basically all of the main "cheap" interfaces (Focusrite Scarlett, UA Volt, even Apogee's own One) will do a perfectly serviceable job in a home recording setting without spending the same amount of money as a used car. Of course, for a full-tilt studio setting capable of Atmos, etc, you'll want the absolute best, but there's definitely a use case for both "cheap" and high-end gear.
I love the remote control hardware! I hate clutter, so being a small design is perfect with so many customization feature at hand. Solid video, definitely thinking about upgrading from my ensemble to the Symphony in the near future
Great analogy in the beginning. Making me reconsider my interface by the second! LOL. Great video.
I switched from a Scarlett to a UA Volt this year and absolutely love the switch and the difference is apparent to everybody. The benefits of analog gear require a good interface for the multiple conversions you'll be doing.
so imagine if you switch volt to a antelope lynx or apogee or dangerous it will blow the volt away by miles
Devon, I know not many are not going to talk about this interface. But if you ever get a chance, listen to the SSL12. I highly recommend this interface to anyone cannot afford the the Apogee. It is so clean and clear then anything in its price mark... They upgraded everything from the SSL2 and 2+. I stand by it solely. Cause I was looking for the Hi-Fi sound as well.
I've heard 3 times the final comparison and pick Prism as the best sound. Thanks for the review.
preamp in Prism is better as well. too bad he didn't include that comparison lol
I have an apogee symphony desktop and it’s definitely clearer than my Apollo x4 but the Apollo workflow is hard to beat.
B was definitely the winner and I heard it right away due to the stereo field expanding alone! I can't wait to upgrade from my Element!!
I would love for you to test the Audient, SSL, and Focusrite Clarett(not scarlett lol) interfaces and hear your thoughts on their converters and pres compared to expensive stuff. I think a lot of people would like that video since they aren't like the absolute cheapest, but still only like a few hundred dollars for the versions with like 2 pres.
It's crazy you haven't broke 500k Subs yet. Soon come, king.... soon come. Your content is consistently amazing
Soon my friend soon!
Hey I don’t know if the people at Sweetwater were aware of this, but someone left half of their SSN on the price 🏷️.
😂😂😂😂
Hello , I have a question , I bouth a Scffham Dumble amp clobe plugin and using Pro Tools and while I have no problems with UAD's plugin amps,
with this Scxuffman ,I here a weird harsh frequency and the clean mix with some dirt of the Scuffham plugin. Would you know what I'm doing wrong and why is this happening ? thanks.
the very best tutorial for audio interfaces! i love this!
Do you still use the 710 Twin Finity with the Apogee?? I have the Symphony Desktop, and tho I like the built in preamps, you kinda made me want to get the 710 TF… as a Hip Hop dude, what do you recommend?
You never looked at rme? Since you are looking at the ad/da 2 ferrofish plus a rme digiface usb can get 32in and 32 out for 2900. Do you feel that the other features are worth the 3100 dollar difference?
needed this since im trying to decide between the RME Babyface pro (no-fs) and apogee duet 3
If you go Apogee get the Symphony Desktop, its basically the same sound as the one in this video
@@jacksp8de It's much too expensive $1400 vs $450 used
With the prism sound titan, don't they have a Dante card that you can add to it? I thought you can get up to 64 channels on that joint. Am I wrong?
hey how were you able to route you summing mixer bro so that you're not hitting the same channels with 1-2 for monitoring and summing at the same time ?
My Apollo twin x isn’t working for my neve 1073/ hardware set up . Xlr female to trs male Mogami cord . Idk if it’s the line button itself on the Apollo or what. Changed cords . Change preamps still
Same issue not getting any good volume gain from the external Pre amp a lot of distortion . And to add in it was working before now it’s not so I know what it’s suppose to sound like . anybody have any suggestions . is it the interface ? The mic works when I run straight thru Apollo but that’s not what I want
Very useful video..... let's see where it takes us
With your Apogee experience, how does the IO Symphony compare to the Symphony Desktop.
Are there any notable differences? Similarities?
for sure the conversion is better, but I don't know about preamps.
Great vid brother as always but what confuses me is what are the cable type (XLR, 1/4 inch. rca?) that are used to plug in speakers, external hardware..etc? Also does the control come with the hardware? Tell your audience the price ? lol
@helpmedevon I been using that interface for a year now. I switched from an Apollo X8 and couldn’t have been happier wit my sound. Even just listening to industry music is so much more pleasant to the ears through my Focal Monitors. Great video
The first song i played on it confused me so much i couldnt believe it
I have the apollo rack silver face, UAD apollo mkii pre-amp and the apollo 710 Twin-Finity along with two satellites i get a pretty great sound. I think it depends on how you use it all.
I do think he should have done the A/B comparison with the apollo rack
Id like to see the Apogee vs Lynx (N)... this thing is a beast! That Apogee is nice too though!
Love my Apollo Interface 🫶
I run a Presonus Quantum and I'm able to bypass the built in pres and go straight to the converters via my custom built very high resolution pres. I playback on a Clarette 8pre usb where I can sum externally passively and reamp again through custom transformer coupled single discrete opamp pre and round trip is completed through one of two tube compressors, one of which is a Fairchild 670 clone which more of a muscled up version of the original. Yeah we slammin over here, bro!
good stuff👍👍
Doesn't Titan sound better in this comparison? Is it just me? I'm using Prism currently and need to upgrade for more inputs. I'm thinking between Symphony i/o and Atlas. I love my current Prism interface, but am really curious how Symphony would sound. That's why I liked this video. But, the clap sound so empty on the left channel on Symphony in this comparison. I'm confused
I love the b roll of u thinking in the AB tests😭😭😭
Haven’t watched the video yet but what do you think about the babyface fs pro? Got it a few months ago but I honest have to say that the difference atleast for me is more felt than heard, had a Steinberg ur22 before and I thought the difference would be heavier. Nonetheless some few percent more in the right direction I guess. 😄
Babyface conversion is bad compared to the ones from Apogee and Prism. The difference is actually big. I used to use Babyface as well.
Great content 🔥🔥🔥
Thank you brother decap!!
Great video as always! Can the Symphony be used for summing also? The person who sold me my generation 1 Dbox said it could...I'm curious
It can in the easiest form
I wanted the Prism to win, but I can’t lie you are right about the Apogee being better. I immediately chose A in the blind test. To the trained ear, the Apogee wins by a mile.
Nice video, Happy apogee quartet owner here. gonna drive this interface till the wheels fall off.
Hey I'm planning to get one of this, is it still worth to buy even if it's 10+ years old?
@@JuanFM hi, definetly get it. Well worth the quality. Still compatible with older and newer computers
I’m definitely going to buy one.
What’s more important if I’m going to upgrade one or the other, a better Mic or audio interface?
better interface first then mic then pre
Dev making house music now ??? LETS GOO
I was here coz of the title 'audio interface' but the intro made me change what I'm here for, what tool did u use to enhance that image? 😐
i am very happy with the RME BAbyface Pro fs
Awsome ! vid brother. Wish I had 6k for this piece lol
I would really like to see a comparison of this Apogee SE with a JCF. Maybe someone finally made a better converter than those?
That tool is next level mate.
Can this system work with FL studio??
I already knew that the sterlin was A once the vocals came in when you starting hitting those peaks of your vocal it started getting distorted and it was really harsh.
Facts 💯
hey man, I recently just got the symphony and I’m having some trouble with getting started. I was wondering if we could hop on a call at sometime?
I heard a wider dimension on the sterling interface. The apogee had more clarity for sure.
Aw man now you gotta do a video on interfaces with the best converters please.
this my biggest issue i dont need all them inputs or outputs whats the best option for a 2 channel convertor ...i feel like u pay more for the i/o vs the actual conversion ......is the apollo x decent and if not what would be a step up in conversion for 2 channel interfaces ....i dont need all that io fam...so give us a realistic review on hardware people actually need vs want because not every one need all that I/O
The RME UFX has a great high resolution low end.
Great video. I'll be honest the apogee sounds like my Apollo.If your mind me asking, what made you not want go the universal audio route? x6?
They don't sound the same
@@Paulkruz1 Enjoy the apogee better ?
@@Joeyelkey 10x better i have both UAD and Apogee but the details in the apogee is clear bro, day and night. Its transparent and has depth its no wonder why all your favorite mixers use apogee
Devvon is the most dramatic Engineer that I know 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Guilty 🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️😂😂
Copped an Apogee boom recently and it sounds wayyy more detailed than my previous Scarlett 3rd gen and NI komplete audio 6. I gave up some ins/outs but it was worth it to me for the better conversion
Welcome to the club 💜
EVERYTHING Sounds better than that red trash box.
i got a presonus audiobox usb96. how does that compare? should i smash it with a hammer?? i need answers !! (seriously though)
Use what you've got. Save up for upgrades when it makes sense.
What are you capturing ? Isnt what we are hearing is D/A NOT A/D?
It’s a pass through so you’re hearing conversion of DA AND AD in total. One full circuit
Only one budget audio interface has a hi-fi sound of high-end mastering converter is the black lion audio revolution 2x2
I am still rocking my 3rd gen Scarlett 2i2🙂
Apogee gets my vote.
Even while viewing this on youtube thru iPhone speakers I Immediately knew apogee was B.
Sounded way richer and more depth to the sound stage.
I’ll pick both, such awesome sounds 🥺
There's a difference with the conversion for sure, but I don't hear the $6k difference in the preamps. Now with the Prism, there was less of a difference, but it's there. That Apogee is crazy, not a fan of the preamps at that price though.
So it’s comes in handy when you think about how many channels of AD/DA your getting. That’s what is raising that price. So I have 24 channels of AD DA on my apogee and only 8 channels if I use one of my titans
More AD DA more expensive
Ahhh understood. Workflow is priceless. 🔥
This is essentially just a 30 minute advertisement
When are we getting the final walkthrough of the new studio?
That’s coming super soon I wanted the final video to be the ultra super final ya know. I’ve been testing and swapping out equipment till I felt everything was rigjt
@@HelpMeDevvon Thanks! Yeah we are looking forward to it!
Everybody Can’t Afford That High Quality Stuff! Sometimes You’ve To Be Thankful For What You Got And Make Magic 😂 I Been Around Producers With Tens Of Thousands Wroth Of Equipment And Music Sounds Like Trash! & Been Around Guy Who Have Less Expensive Equipment Music Sounds Top Notch.. I Understand What Yu Mean Tho I’m Putting Together My Home Studio Now Great quality Is The Key
This is cool but the level match on this tracks are not the same so to the ear some people will think that one is much better when all it is the dynamic sound is just different from a small amount that’s only heard because the expensive interface is quite
l love what u do and I'm a very big fan thanks for all your great work
Not night and day, but I can spot the difference. However, is there is a difference? RUclips's sound quality is something like 128 kbps.
Not sure that the tests can be considered as "valid". +20% for $5000... Not sure either.
When it comes to converters at these price points things become very subjective! Things like transients, stereo image and detail can be very overlooked when eyeing converters. They both are amazing and both have distinct characteristics that set them apart for me!
What about a null test?🕺
Finally!
I have to say that the low end in the prism is insane I was listening tru the speakers on my phone and the weight is someting that I haven't found in any other convertes, I have own in the past the lynx aurora n hdx ,I have work extensively with the symphony, with avid 192 , with burl and the orion 32 + and for me the prism is the more transparent, punchy and detailed,but I have to say that to be able to open the prism full potential you need to conect it to avid hd native or hdx, the usb connection is a Lil be slow and can give you latency problems that are no present when you use it tru the hd conection, my English is not perfect so plz excuse me if my writing is not the best , good luck to anyone !!!
Is there something like the apogee that’s in the 2k range?
The Symphony Desktop which claims to have the same sound as this
Look for a used Apogee Ensemble Thunderbolt. It’s a great unit. About $1500 used. Plenty of I/O. I can’t compare to the symphony but the Ensemble has two headphones and two guitar inputs with reamp. Apogee stopped making the Ensemble.
Yes devon but none of those stands close to that dangerous converter plus that you got there on your desk
Never tried it but I’d like to 🤷🏽♂️
The transients at the apogee sound significantly better than the Prism.
There is a slight mud in the low mids that does not exist in the apogee.
Dawg, mine is legit a behringer costed bout 50 dollars and the music I'm making still is as quality if not better than my competition. I started on half a surround sound system. Just the left signal so my mixing had to get critical. Life hits when it wants to so I had to get what I could
What’s your Spotify?
Am I right in thinking you’ve got about $20k worth of rack gear and converters and a pair of $400 speakers ?
these test always confuse me because i'm not sure what exactly you're testing here. so you're sending a final 2-track mix from your converters DA's, into it's own AD's, which means you're hearing BOTH it's DA (which doesnt actually affect the sound of the mix, it affects your perception of the mix thus you make different mixing decisions) and it's AD's (which definitely does affect the mix, but only if tracked thru the interfaces AD's.)
so i guess my question is, what are you trying to show us here, how the DA converters sound (since the DA has its own distinct sound it's not an accurate representation of the AD's)? The pre amp test was solid since we're really hearing the difference in the AD converters.
maybe i'm wrong in my fundamental understanding somewhere, definitely down to be corrected. great video!
Don’t know about this one. I’ve been using the Prism Titan for two days now and I wouldn’t say the Apogee is better. I think both are equally good but for the price point, Prism Titan all the way.
an SE, mannn a regular USED MKII will smoke everything out here... EVERYONE has been wasting time not buying one of these...Apogee hasn't updated this mf in so long cause it was so far ahead of everything else... i bought one of these a few months back.. and i strugged not putting the gun in my mouth, cause if i would have bought this when it dropped i'd be at least grammy nom'd by now... i was wasting so much time adjusting what i couldn't even hear. Old mf'ers talking bout you can make a hit record on anything GTFOH .. Mastering studios been using this thing RELENTLESY for years with no upgrade plan... you know why? .. CAUSE AINT NO UPGRADE FROM THIS.
Album remasters etc all go through this thing. Push your VST's through a external preamp, and let them hit this AKM chip on the inside of this mf'er and jesus it make CHEAP VST's sound good after they hit the converter. BUY THIS MF'ER NOWWWWWWWWWWW IT WILL CHANGE THE WAY YOU MAKE MUSIC!!!!
I would love to hear this Apogee Symphony IO MKII Special Edition vs Lynx Aurora (N)! The Lynx Aurora (N) is still a mix and mastering bang, BANG Go-Getter! I've done a ton of these back-to-back face-offs with it, and I have chosen the Lynx Aurora (N) every time! I'm waiting for an interface to have the clarity, and the wide-open space image it has! Can you do one of those? I can send one of my Lynx Aurora (N) if you're interested...! I don't get on here but like once or twice a week so if i do not msg back right away give it couple days... I will get back to work out the details!
had the lynx hilo but if you read up on the complaints that thing lacking on the mid and low end bass it hasa beautiful stereo spread but lacking in the centre apogee has better depth than my hilo and not as hard soundings
Dope Video. I'd like to know how the Symphony I/O compares to the Symphony Desktop model. I don't exactly have $5000-6000 dollars laying around😅 but i might be able to swing $1500 if the converters are comparable.
Hi there! The Symphony Desktop features the same conversion quality as our Symphony I/O Mk II but the model that Deevon is our newest SE verion which is the best system we have ever made. Not sure what you currenlty have but the office favorite is the Symphony Desktop. You won't be disappointed 😊
@@apogeedigital Awesome! Super excited to learn that. I currently use the SSL2+ in my home studio. Just need to save up $1500 now lol
you got this
Close to my dangerous dbox+
I have to watch this video cause I'm still in my early days.
Nothing beats lynx conversion. Time to upgrade to big boy toys.
wrong lynx is ok but its not all that .people complain about the the lack of low end in the low mids and lows i had it for 2 years and tried to like it but sold it for the mk2 which sounds better and can tame digital harshness , better depth. also lynx does not clip well
Prism sounded way better thanks for comparison
I got a clarrett+ 8pre
Like LJ said man you rich 🙃😂
bro i'm a bedroom beat maker thats doing too much for me lol but great info though
It’s night and day between these two interfaces
Now I’m just sitting here looking at my Apollo twin like 😒
Mannnn....same here😅
If the apollo is good enough for post malone it’s good enough for you !
Lol me too
Me2 hell lol
I only have the mbox 2😢
I dunno why but I prefer the Sterlin than the Apogee, it sounds more warm to me.
It sounds better to me
My friend respectfully and highly highly disagree with you. Just hearing that noise floor was insane
Is this a sponsored video? 🤔
I heard a difference, I choose B, before he reveled the answer, EA Ski was right, Converters do matter.
This jus blew my ID14 out the water😭
Aye man we still killing it with ours in the most popular budget interfaces out there 😭💪🏾
@@thestreetdisciple3955 I love my Audient but they need to make a rack mount ID interface I don't wanna switch to the Evo 16 I like the Pre's on the ID line😭😭😭
Depends on which version because mk2 is sooo fing fat it sounds like a audient mixing desk
@@bighousemusic628 I have the MKII
The Prism is better.
It's an audible difference