Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 vs. Apollo Twin Duo USB vs. Apogee Symphony Desktop (My Windows PC Journey)
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 5 мар 2021
- 🔴 SUBSCRIBE TO CURTISSKINGTV: bit.ly/subcktv
👑 WHO IS CURTISS KING?!
By the way, if this is your first time watching one of my videos, my name is Curtiss King. I'm an Independent Rapper, Music Producer, and RUclipsr. My goal is to make you think, laugh and motivate you daily. If you need a channel that constantly keeps you motivated, in a good mood, and speaks to deep thoughts of creatives, consider subscribing.
💪 FULL AMAZON STOREFRONT:
►► www.amazon.com/shop/curtisski...
🌊 FOLLOW CURTISS KING
►► Instagram → / curtissking
►► Twitter → / curtissking
►► Website → curtissking.com
►► My Music → http:/curtissking.bandcamp.com 
Видеоклипы
Love the way you describe your journey! The biggest headache I had when working with Audio Interface and PC is that my graphic card kept giving my studio monitor interference Hss sound when playing games or even just moving the mouse. (ofc using balanced xlr/trs)
I lowkey didn't know that's what an audio interface does. I've learned a lot today 💎😳
Thank you so much for the heads up. I just got a brand new PC build a month ago AND I was literally abouta buy the Apollo Twin X today, so this was a major key for me to know. Imma have to rethink this purchase.
Thank you so much for this one. I'm a pc head as well and I've been looking for the perfect audio interface for a while now. This one helped a lot!!
I truly truly appreciate this video. My concerns about the Apollo working with my pc was my biggest worry. The Apogee I would love to get but for now I’m thinking of the Focusrite Clarett.
You rocked those hurdles. and saved me hella time on upgrading my sound card. You the man
Curtis I really appreciate this video because I'm currently about to upgrade my interface and I was considering the Apollo but now that you told me about that, Thunderbolt connectivity issues, obs issues I thank you for the video because now I have to do further research. I appreciate all of your content you are truly an inspiration
Thanks for this! I rock with the Scarlett solo and plan to upgrade later down the road, and was eyeing the Apollo. I'll put the apogee symphony on my wish list for now!
My guy, this was gold ! I’m about to pull the trigger on an interface upgrade , and this video just saved me a TON of headache . Automatically had to sub this channel !
Curtiss,
I just wanted to take a moment to thank you for posting this video. I am an aspiring voiceover talent, and I really had my heart set on the Apollo Twin. I am also a PC guy. After hearing your struggles, some of which went way over my head, I decided on the Apogee. Thus far, it is beyond my modest abilities, but that is more a case of coming from using old school mixers with sliders or pots.
In any event, thank you for your fantastic description and commentary.
Glad it was helpful!
I appreciate the details. Love Apogee. I can't wait to try this one.
Last year I bought UA twin X Quad Core in Sweetwater and yes its a beautiful interface but it was also giving me many issues for an entire month even using a Mac Pro 2020, so I couldn't take it anymore and I returned it. Now watching your video it gives me of a more clear view of the apogee, it sounds like an amazing interface and I love the features, its also beautiful 👍
Thanks man for this awesome video. I was about to buy the Apollo Twin Duo USB for my PC but I was a bit hesitant because of the lack of Windows support. I am definitely going for the Apogee Symphony Desktop.
Bro thank you for this video! I literally just had the same experience with ordering the wrong version of Apollo and came across this video doing research. Definitely looking in to the apogee 🔥
Like how you keepin it real about this particular journey. Salute.
Hadn't thought about this one... thank you very very much!!!
thank you so much! I am new to all of this tech gear and I just had a similar experience with audiant id22 - sounded great but to many glitches - I went to a focusrite and its easy to use but sound sucks- so now I'm looking for the best- easiest to use interface I can get - I've narrowed it down to RME - apollo twin or apogee - I too am a PC user and not interested in converting I giggled all the way through your video and feel like you saved me tons of headache - I'm already so frustrated that had I not seen this and went with the apollo that would probably be enough to send me over the edge lol and just give up on recording - fantastic video - thank you!
I still have the apogee due and sound amazing. I used for when I take trips or for just demos. In my studio I have the Antelope audio interface Zentour and is great! Work with no issues and we the software you can routing anything. Great video, congrats!
Does the Antelope sound better than the Apogee duet? I am looking into buying the Antelope soon, and I have both the Apogee and a Apollo twin mkII...I feel the Apogee sounds better than the Apollo.
@@MichaelAdam-cd3gj The original Apogee Duet has a clear and transparent sound, but in my case, I have replaced everything 😀with the help of Black Lion Audio, and it now sounds close to another interface I have, the Apogee Symphony 2x6 version 1.(No mic preamp here)
On the other hand, the Antelope Audio interfaces are also highly regarded in the audio industry. Antelope's interfaces are known for their advanced digital clocking technology, which is designed to reduce jitter and improve overall sound quality. They also offer a range of built-in effects and processing tools, which can be useful for recording and mixing. And the Zen Tour have more inputs and outputs than the Apogee Duet. I have noticed that Antelope audio have a "darker" or more "analog" sound than the Apogee Duet, which may be desirable in certain situations.
Ultimately, the choice between the Apogee Duet and the Antelope Audio interfaces will depend on your specific needs and preferences. I use in the studio the antelope and in the rout the Apogee...However, I had a problem with my Antelope Audio Zen Tour two year a go, the meter gave me a wrong number and there was no place in the USA where I could send the unit for repairs. I sent the unit to the manufacturer, where they analyzed it, but they were unable to fix it. In the end, it turned out to be just a software problem.
I hear you man. Excellent video, and I can really relate to what you're saying, since I've been on my own journey hunting for better sound for my studio. I used PCs for music for 10 years, and loved my setup. Best sounding, most stable setup I ever had was a Quad core pentium, Windows 7, RME HDSP card with midi and multiple audio channels. Plugged into that using AES with Mytek and Benchmark AD/DA converters and external preamps. Sound blew me away, as good as anything I've heard since. Did heaps of stuff with that including sound for movies and all sorts of commercial projects, with lots of happy customers. Sold my gear before moving to a new country, then got a cheap Mac mini, and that's when all my problems started lol. Seriously learnt so much shit, the good, the bad and the ugly. Had a focusrite like you, with my Mac mini, and the focusrite is reliable, no issues, but nowhere near as good sound wise as my PC setup. Also one huge issue I discovered about using Macs, and this goes totally counter to what I'm seeing people post online. If you have a mac with an integrated graphics processor, (like my Mac mini) then you're in trouble if you use some of the newer plugins with constantly changing graphics (Izotope, Fabfilter etc). These are great plugins by the way, which I use a lot for mixing. They use the GPU to accelerate the graphics processing. If you don't have a good graphics card, you'll get lots of pops and clicks on playback on the Mac, and many times the DAW just stops and says "Not enough CPU" or "Not enough RAM". Once I figured out it was because of the really low powered integrated GPU I had, I traded up for an iMac with good graphics card (not integrated) and works like a dream now. A few months back I was so fed up, I was about to build a new PC, but graphics cards are so crazy expensive, I stayed with Mac. So back to looking for better sound now. Read good things about the Symphony, worth looking into. It doesn't really matter what you use to make music, the devil is always in the details lol. All the best.
Man, I relate to this video so much! I'm a full time voice actor, and upgraded from the Focusrite Solo to the Apollo Solo (USB) a few months back. But this video hits hard. From the same compatibility issues with not only programs like OBS etc. but also for software used to connect studios together for live directed recording sessions (Cleenfeed, Source Connect etc.), right down to the pain of letting it go due to how beautiful it is! Like you I was routing through Voicemeeter, through ASIO, through this and that and by the time I had gone through so many chains it just felt pointless to be paying so much and having to do so much just to work around its limitations.
Perhaps it's time to send mine back...
Man. . . . I went through the same hell you did and I died. I was in hell. I used a Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 too till it just went to the grave 5 months later. I needed your video thank you so much. To a fellow PC head I will just through money at something that just works and loves on my sweet voice that I know I always deserved. Apogee Symphony Desktop here I come.
thank you SO much as a fellow windows fan
thanks for the info bro I was actually looking to get an apollo but heard about some of the issues with pc. I had never heard of the apogee so good lookin
Best video about this subject. Thanks Mane 💯
Great presentation. Thanks for the heads-up
you kept it real bro.. massive thanks - really helped
Hey Curtis .. honestly this video made my day.. you make me laugh, but I am now heading to Sweetwater to check out the Apogee. I am using the Audient ID22. It is great but my headphone is going so time to upgrade.
Thanks Curtiss for that cause I thought I was bugging to with the Scarlett but since i like mixing vocals imma need to upgrade my interface
SOOOO helpful dude, I’m never switching to mac and I’m ordering my symphony now from sweet water. 🤘🏻
Thank you for this video. I was literally trying to upgrade to an Apollo from 100$ interface (pc). I just bought the symphony after watching your video.
Great job brother! I have the Apollo x4 and it’s truly amazing! I’ve heard amazing things on apogee. Keep up the outstanding work! -Charles III
Thanks man you save me time and money I really appreciate you 🤜🏻🔥🤛🏻
Youre a goat. This video not only made me laugh but solved years worth of an issue.
Hey Curtis!! I had the silver Apollo Twin first + Mac in 2012, then built a PC in 2017 and tried to transition over my interface and pretty much went through similar problems as you did, so I bought a thunderbolt card....and that's it, everything I needed to do Audio-wise went smoothly including setting up OBS, upgraded to the apollo mark 2 everything is working as it should. I think I caught a break when I unknowingly used hardware to feed my audio so things are initialized through the hardware first, then the apollo, that's why I had no problems with discovery after that with any other program that needed audio inputs etc. I hope this helps, keep up the good work.
I needed this video big bro 🙏
So glad I saw this
This is EXACTLY the video I needed.
Great video, was in the same boat as you, I'm PC all day. Thanks for the info
Big Words Again Bro, you always come with usefull information, Love it🔥
Thank you definitely going to look into this
Very helpful, thank you!
the first time you hear a legitimately pro audio interface it's like *choir of angels sound* - additionally, you really can never go wrong with Apogee conversion - it might literally be the best
Very nice work!!! 👌😁✌
Great interview.
Never giving up my Dell XPS 8940..Super Fast and Strong for Music Production. Love It!!
Thank you! I use PC. Looking to make the change from Focusrite Saffire not because of quality. The preamps are pretty high end. But it’s FireWire and old. They won’t last forever. I’ve been belly aching over the right unit and like you was pointing towards the Apollo. Great vid
My dawg .. I appreciate this video
Thanks for sharing this video was going to buy the Apolo Two for my pc because like you I'm staying with my pc lol.
bruh, you was on my recommended, didn't know what I was gonna watch but the first thing I noticed was "holy shit his mic sounds AMAZING" lol and this video is about that. Crazy journey bro. Funny af, sounds better than your regular voice LOL
Subbed
Thank for always being so sweet 🤗
Thank you 🙏🏽 I’m a PC head and purchased the exact same Apollo twin and after all the stress I found myself stuck on what’s a better interface for my desktop pc after being up all night I come across this video of someone breaking down the almost exactly issue I was having I will be purchasing the apogee later today
great video. very helpful.
Not just PC’s having issues with UA. My UA Apollo has given me nothing but headaches on my Mac. Sold it at a loss for the Apogee Symphony Desktop and couldn’t be happier!
Good info. Bro, very nice video.
Yeah man...sound like that PC life got ya hemmed up. Glad you found something that worked for you!
Great video CK!
I own a Focusrite 8i6 1st generation, Apollo Twin duo and a Zoom Tac 2 thunderbolt interface. Although the thunderbolt interfaces are great, the Focusrite has been solid!!
been using a Focusrite 6i6 forever, got an apollo twin, and was super happy with sound quality, but had major compatibility issues. apollo would connect and disconnect at random multiple times during sessions. also would heat up and get so hot I got worried and unplugged it. When I went back to Focusrite I noticed to sound quality difference and was heartbroken that it didn't work out... I too also thought I wouldn't find anything to match it.. so thanks for the review... Definitely going to check into the Apogee!
Couldn't have felt more validated watching this while I consider the Apollo and rent it to test it out + experience some hiccups!! Thank you
This is exactly my sentiment. I just bought the symphony desktop after having an apollo twin USB for about 6 years. Loved the sound of the apollo twin and the plug-ins are the best in the business, but I had to find so many work arounds to get it to work with different applications. I can't wait to not deal with those things!
How sounds the symphony desktop?
@@davidflps2278 it sounds great! I have no complaints
great video bro
PC Gang all day!! Thanks for this video because I been shopping for a computer upgrade and audio interface upgrade. I've had my focusrite (2nd Gen) 2i2 forever, no issues except for, like you replace the usb cord but I need more processing power because I'm starting to get work from local artist and a few out of my state and I'm really starting to see the strain on my desktop now. Plus I also got back into creating my own songs and stuff again so this was a good video for me to catch.
oh my god this video made me subscribe :D super helpful thank you!!!! (I love pcs and building my own pcs so i'm right there with you lol)
I used to swear up and down that PCs were great for music. I had learned how to navigate through all the idiosyncrasies and get it to do what I needed. But when it was finally time to upgrade, I bit the bullet and bought a MacBook. You couldn't pay me to go back to a PC.....
Amazing! Funny that you said that Apogee seems made for windows cause they were for Mac only for years. Thanks for the info
I run my studio off the Apollo Twin USB + Uad-2 Satellite. It handles 75% of routing within the UAD Console Application for windows. UAD is in point with windows too, as far as software, but their hardware is definitely outdated. Been thru the manual and tried, you have setup Virtual routing channels, which are routable within almost any application. The 2 virtual channels show up as outputs, whether you set them up as stereo or mono, as well as the Microphone input, which can give you stereo or mono inputs. You gotta do front end routing via console for the back end to show up in the program.
Loved it❤️
Good lookin out. Fighting with Windows has been super frustrating with my audio interface.
Got so much problems with my UAD X6 on my mac…… . So I sold it. And now I’m happy !!!
Great video my brother. On target info. BTW, you've got to thank Bro. Nizzereo. He's sending people like me to Big-Bros like you. Thanks for such great info. Keep up the OUTSTANDING WORK.
This was super super helpful--coming from a fellow windows user
Great video.
Yeah every pc user trying to work with the freaking apollos will end up down the same pit.. You brought it to the point! I sold my interface and am now on the satelite just to use the plugins.. If you pay that much for an interface universal audio, should set some freaking priorities to support the users with working drivers!
Your story is one of the 'best and unbiased AND TRUE TO LIVE" reviews that 99% of humans will agree with. Questions from another OBS user - how would you compare this with the Arturia AudioFuse Studio? We just returned the Focusrite 4i4 and looking for something better and cleaner - especially being able to access all inputs when using a DAW?
Curt, try the Prism Sound Lyra.
I’ve owned Everything from Focusrite boxes, RME UFX, Apogee Quartet and Element 46, etc. But when I bought the Prism Sound Lyra and eventually the Prism Sound Atlas...mind blown!!
Awesome knowledge 👏 👌 👍!!
So... I saw this video and updated to the Focusrite Clarett 2Pre...💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾 great video bc the old old Focusrite Scarlett was good to me but sheeeesh the sound difference. AAANNND i ran a entire session at 192 buffer rate. Like Woooow‼
Audient products sounds great too.
yup and u can find them cheap on the secondhand market
I love my Symphony Desktop and it’s going to be even crazier when they drop the new software update. I updated from an Avid fast track duo to the Apogee Duet for Mac/IOS about 5 years ago and it was a massive upgrade in sound quality and my mixes turned out better...no complaints with the Duet at all, but after upgrading to the Symphony Desktop, my mixes are even better than with the Duet, my home studio legit sounds like I’m recording and mixing in a big major studio somewhere. And the Apogee plugins are amazing, the Pultec plugin is the only pultec plugin emulation licensed and endorsed by the company that makes the Pultec hardware. When Apogee states that the Symphony was like a widescreen window into your mixes....they...were...not....lying. I’d definitely be interested in a video of how the Symphony affected your mixes at some point.
How much of a big difference did you notice from the duet 2 to the symphony in vocal recordings?
Also is it true the symphony has a fan? Does this jot affect while recording ?
@@EM-km8em first of all, no it doesn’t have a fan. There’s definitely a difference, better preamps and better converted for sure. I mainly use the Neve preamp emulation for vocals, and it has the esc channel strip software built into it so you can really shape the sound first and print the effects if you want to. I would say one of the biggest advantages is the digital to audio conversion. My mixes have gotten a lot better, or should I say when mix and play them back on other devices, even on earbuds they sound a lot better than when I mixed using the Duet.I got great mixes with the Duet but sometimes I’d have to go back and make adjustments here and there when I checked them on earbuds etc. you can just hear more detail when mixing with the Symphony.
@@nicolasstrawberry4148 and between symphony and Apollo twin duo?
@@EM-km8em I don’t have any personal experience with the Apollo Twin Duo or any of their product line. I’ve heard a side by side comparison online and thought the Apogee sounded cleaner but it might have been how the user had their setting.
I used to want an Apollo for the UAD plugins and because of them being processed by their hardware but computers have become so powerful I don’t need dsp processors these day. The Apogee Symphony has dsp processing but my 2020 MBP is more than capable of running the pluginsI need, and the thing I like about using A[ogees plugins is I can use them with or without Apogee hardware, unlike UAD plugins. I can also use the Symphony with my IPad if I feel like it.
I don’t doubt the Apollo sounds great though, I doubt Universal Audio would be behind anything that didn’t sound great.
I have an apogee duet 2 at the moment.
Would you rather get a neve or ssl waves plug in or buy the whole apollo twin instead ?
I need it just for vocal recordings
You are a funny dude, haha. I wish the UAD had worked out for you. I, too, started with the Focusrite. Had it for over a decade. Could not stand the Focusrite software interface. Then I went to the Apollo x8. Wow! What a night and day upgrade. The free UAD plugins alone upped my game immeasurably.
Bro that PC got you working hard 😂 you're story reminds me how I went down the rabbit hole years ago too LOL
I used to be team windows and then I got the Mac with the apollo twin thunderbolt. Never looked back and now I have the free Luna. Its worth it with other plugins. Boom!!
After a few months of procrastination I copped, shit hard bro 👌🏾
Twin X on Mac here, 0 problems with OBS and routing, also love it for the sound, don’t know why u got so many problems! But that symphony looks outstanding
Apollos can be very problematic with PCs which he is using. You have to remember Apollo was for years was only for Mac, until recent years when they specifically made USB version of the Apollo Twin, but still there are issues, which is why he is having problems. With a Mac its going to work flawless like yours. I use both Mac and PC both using Apollo Twins and my PC constantly has issues with the Apollo Twin
PC user here I own 3 x series apollos chained together I had a huge issue when it came to recording screen captures and streaming at first then I went Into the routing matrix and started messing with the inputs and outputs. I found out you can make the apollo see the outputs of the virtual outputs as inputs once you do that obs can see it zero problems zero shudders. The only other issue was because my apollos are thunderbolt 3 they come in way faster than the capture card for my cameras. I had to set a delay but eventually realized it's easy using a streaming switcher with all 4 cameras connected to it then feed it the apollos outputs on a separate send and boom everything was in sync sounded amazing and has never had a single glitch
Bro I'm literally going through this right now. I bought an X8 but now I want to stream with my PC gaming rig as well. Didn't even consider the Apogee until now so definitely will look into it
Hmm I got a Focusrite Clarett 8pre USB which is plug and play perfect with Windows, but I've been toying with the idea of getting an Apollo. This is great info. Think I'm sticking with my Clarett for now, but that Apogee looks dope
thank you for this video, i am also in the market for a new interface
“Sounds better than my personal voice”😂😂😂 I’ve been using focusrite with my Mac since the beginning of time so I thank you for this video🙏🏽 however I don’t really use my personal vocals a lot..I just make instrumentals..so I’m not sure how switching an interface would benefit me but it no doubt looks sooo beautiful lol
Ordered one right after watching it!! PC for ever ever....ever ever???
Thanks bruh!!! You saved me!!!
Thank you for saving me that headache! I’m switching to Windows, and I’ll really miss the Twin, but it’s good to know what else is good. Have you had any experience with the new SSL interfaces?
I am also Running on a Windows Machine, and I also Stream using the Apollo Twin X. I had to get a Thunderbolt 3 PCIe card for my Motherboard just for me to hook it up. After watching this video, I noticed you stopped at ASIO Link Pro, which was the solution to my OBS Mic Problem. All I did was re-route my Mic Input into a different Channel in ASIO Link Pro and used it as MIX 01 in OBS and VOILA. :)
But I'm sorry you were unable to get yours to work.
I went DAYS going thru this as well... So I definitely feel you're pain. I wasn't gonna give up. LOL
steinberg is killing all of them. ur rt4 with the transformers the sound is unbelieveable mastering is super sweet
Nope its not fam. Not even close
U gotta be trolling lol
@@dollamanhomie whatever dude stay lost
@@negusrosell7558 as with everything...u get what u pay for!
Bru Dope Channel, I'm a PC Guru
I'm never going to Apple not even for a visit! I need a interface and I was looking at Focusrite.
Regular voice in person, I felt that 💯😂😂😂
I chose the Symphony Desktop as well. It is a fantastic unite
I was just like you before I made the switch to mac. I was a pc head and android geeek for life until i bought my first iphone. It was over after that. I made a complete switch on everything apple and i don' t regret it.
Apollo owner and yes, Apogee is the best alternative to UAD. Good for you and enjoy your art brother.
I had Focusrite and just got the Apollo twin, When he said "you can hear the difference", he aint lying