These 'Switch 2' Joy-Con Might Be Real
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- Опубликовано: 23 янв 2025
- Alex should have studied arts instead
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Ever since Nintendo have been saying they want to leave the whole idea of console lifecycles behind, I've been getting the feeling that they want to turn the Switch (and the Switch brand) into basically "Nintendo's Steam". The ability to use a joycon as a mouse is genuinely so exciting to me-there's so many TYPES of games and other things (simulation games, builder games, point and click, shooters, drawing, ingame editors, etc etc) that the Switch can run perfectly fine, but which simply aren't as comfortable to control without a mouse.
I'm being reminded of the Wii U GamePad. It was pretty cool, but exactly BECAUSE it was so unique and hard to ignore, people behind third party games who wanted to provide the same game experience across platforms would often skip the console. It was a feature that widened the gap between the Wii U and other consoles, asking them to do things in a way that was more tailored specifically to the Wii U.
Being able to use a joycon as a mouse feels like it'd have the exact opposite effect: instead of widening the gap with other game platforms, this would bridge a large gap in controls between PC and console, because you could just keep the exact same mouse controls with no compromises and no peripherals! And imagine all the games that are already on Switch 1 (Minecraft, Stardew, Mario Maker 2, Game Builder Garage, Balatro, Ōkami, all the Pikmin and Ace Attorney games) that could suddenly become so much more comfortable to play......
Btw, really appreciate the thumbnail saying "speculate", "review" and such. Big QOL thing
Does anyone else remember that Nintendo patent for scroll wheel style buttons? The patent basically depicted the shoulder buttons on a controller having scroll wheel functionality. And now the rumor is that their new Joy-Cons might behave like a computer mouse... I'm just putting two and two together here.
Petition for Nintendo life podcast - these videos are perfect for it.
PLEASE
If it’s a sensor similar to a mouse, I think it’s a good idea for some games for example city building games, theme, park games, tycoon games, and other games that require a lot of point and click
If they were attempting to make it a mouse, it would make sense as to why the new Professor Layton is rumored to be a launch title, what a great point and click to show off new hardware
I can’t wait for them to release this thing, so we can get the Switch 3 speculation industry off the ground.
😂
should've mentioned that it was a valid serial number on the actual image itself, someone put it into Nintendo's warranty system to check
I remember a few weeks back a leaker was saying the Joycons had a surprise related to the triggers, saying "think lasers."
Suddenly that comment makes all the sense in the world.
oml i remember that, this makes sense
Yup, nexthandheld
I remember this but didn't they say something more like there's a surprise at the top of the joycon? Not specifically the triggers
Why was that outro so ominous
“Play some games on your switch…while you still can 🔫😈”
The idea of using a joycon as a mouse is certainly interesting, but it seems like a novelty to me. I’m also not convinced that it could actually be comfortable to hold unless they shipped it with an accessory you could slot it into to make it fatter
Novelty? Just like how the Joy-Con R contained an infrared depth tracking sensor. This is Nintendo; they are all about novelty and less about comfort.
I'm sure there will be choices. Accessories that go over the JoyCons, mice from Nintendo and/or third parties, you can even plug in the dongle for a wireless mouse (already can be done in Switch 1, I doubt they will break that feature).
They might add that to the shape of the black joycon guard. It might shaped like a mouse. Imagine if we can use this "mouse" during portable session in the plane playing Borderlands or COD
Nah the third party accessories exist
It's so random but that's Nintendo for you. Either this gets completely forgotten after a year or gets gemuine support from various devs.
Its pretty obvious the IR sensor is intended for the joy-cons to be used like a computer mouse when you place them sideways on a desk. The new shoulder buttons are bigger and curvier than the Switch 1's and literally mimmick the left and right buttons of a mouse, with your thumb resting on the control stick for character movement in fps games. Those round parts at both edges in the inside of the joy-cons are those glide pads that mouses have at the bottom.
Whoever at Nintendo had the idea to re-purpose a regular gaming controller into a mouse simply by placing it sideways: That was a genius move and never been done before in home consoles 👏
I think you're counting those chickens before they've hatched. Been in this long enough to never assume Nintendo is doing the obvious thing 😅
Am I going crazy or did I see you comment this on Spawnwave too? Either way, you’re completely right
...Lenovo Legion Go?
@tarangrewal
Yes, the Lenovo Legion Go is totally a home console, thank you for reaffirming how incredibly smart you guys on RUclips are...
Optical sensor*
Looks like Mario Paint will make its return with the mouse feature!
Is the artist who made the joy con mock-ups available for commissions??
these are the real joy con
@cwega2463 they mean the ones made for this video
I'm with Alex.. an IR pointer that can see the size of your TV
A mouse is a good additional option, but only with an accessory to avoid carpal tunnel syndrome
a new Arms game somehow allowing you to use two mice would be very funny
Over the years since the Switch launched, I’ve heard many RUclipsrs (Nintendo Life included) complain about how point and click games are rough on Switch.
This makes so much sense if Nintendo has heard those complaints too.
A mouse is nice but a guarantee of no more joystick drift would be even better.
Older illustrations when these controllers leaked show that both joy cons have the optical sensor, this leak aligns with those designs
i really hope it is a mouse! It would make so much sense for them to double down on the whole "switch" thing and add more "modes". Desktop mode would fit right in.
I don't think it'll work for Splatoon as a mouse, most competitive players have more than 13,000 hours of gameplay counting Splatoon 2 and 3. Changing to a mouse-only option won't work. However, it could be just an option for some new casual players
My god, using a mouse would be incredible. I've been trying to find a choice for analog joystick movement on PC, but having a mouse for console would be great.
If it's real, it might actually push more games to support joystick movement+mouse aim combo
Oh my god, DUAL MOUSE JOYCON AIR HOCKEY
6:15 I'm on the opposite side of this. An optical sensor needs a frame of reference to capture position. That's why you have the sensor bar on the Wii and WiiU. Without a frame of reference is impossible for the joycon to capture the position through an optical sensor. It would depend on the color of the wall, the things present on the wall like frames, paintings, plants, anything that obstructs the view. It would depend on the illumination too. What happens if you take your switch to a friend's house?
Besides all of that, that's not how "lasers" work. A laser is a very focused ray of light. It goes in a straight line and not like a "cone". So if you point to a wall and you are NOT PERFECTLY PERPENDICULAR TO IT, the laser will miss the sensor when reflected.
Plus, what happens when the joycons are attached? You would loose that functionality when the joycons are attached to the console and when they are attached to a grip. And... wouldn't it be too easy to accidentally cover the optical sensor with your fingers when it's so close to the "R" button? That would be a very bad design mistake.
I don't know... for me, everything seems to point more to the "mouse" function and not "sensor bar" one.
I heard someone mention that you can have the joy con on the side and slide your finger along the sensor to have essentially a second stick for camera control. There is a lot they can do for this. I hope the mouse thing is real, but I wish they could have figured out the scrollwheel shoulder buttons thing.
Bluetooth Air mice exist (which I use when I dock my smartphone for TV gaming), so just a default option of that, would be amazing
Wow! I can't believe I didn't notice this before... a few months ago there was a leak where someone saw the Switch 2 and said that one of the buttons was also used as a scroll wheel like a mouse, and that really ties in with the current leak!!!
3:58 Tank Trouble reference in 2025!!!
I'm not into speculation. If Nintendo hasn't announced it, it's just hearsay.
For me the MOUSE function is the most likely one. Think about this: when you are in HANDHELD mode, you have a touchscreen to interact with games and menus. Now a MOUSE would do EXACTLY THE SAME when the console is docked. I picture myself using Mario Maker, Mario Paint, Brain Training, Kirby's Magic Paintbrush, or Return to Monkey Island in DOCKED MODE with a Joy-Mouse and everything works! The joy-mouse would close the gap between HANDHELD and DOCKED a little more.
When you see all the legal stuff on the back of the Joycon its not really a 'maybe' - it's the real joy con .
I think they’re just trying to balance addressing the elephant in the room, without jeopardising their positive relationship with Nintendo. Most channels who’ve been going all out milking the leaks for every last click don’t have that relationship.
Mario Paint to rival Adobe CC Suite
Imagine if metroid uses that mouse controls
A mouse would be interesting. The original joycons actually had one IR sensor, but very few games ever used it - I imagine if anyone got off their lazy arse and thought for a bit, we could have used the IR joycon as a joystick. If they had IRs on both, you could have simulated arcade style twin-stick shooters (the ones that are usually in cockpit style cabinets). But where those IR sensors are on these designs, it couldn't be used that way, they'd be blocked by your hands. But if these are larger joycons, then there could be space to have most of the technology in both instead of the way they are in the current joycons. If say, they BOTH had sensors on the bottom as well as on the front, they'd have a lot of potential going. Again, Nintendo will probably have to show how these can be used (ideally with something that's not as goofy as 1, 2, Switch), but I think it's going to bring a lot of new ideas.
5:19 Alex just dm'd everyone the switch image
How come no one is askin why the image on the left u cant see the other buttons stickin out?
It's probably perspective from being a close-up shot.
I would really like to see a refined Switch 2 with features that just make sense like the N3DS was to the NDS
Imagine people's surprise when nintendo shows something different 😊
Oh my god, RTS and tower defense games easily ported to the Switch 2 because of the mouse configuration.
The Riftbreaker on Switch 2 with DLSS3.0 and Ray Tracing, plus mouse controls with the left joy stick at the same time! Imagine the possibilities!!!
I’m speculating both a blue accented left joycon and orange accented right in both a black and a white color way (like the 2DS XL). As well as the Switch 2 tablet itself in matching black and white shells. Or maybe the white Switch color way may have both joycon with the orange accents and the black with the blue accents 🤷🏽♂️.
My idea for a new launch ip is Nintendo theme parks game. Like roller coaster tycoon. You get special rewards to use in game using the new street pass when you visit Nintendo theme parks and stores.
Maybe they even have splatfest type events to see what people want added most to the real in life theme parks. Great use of the mouse. Nintendo Land 2.
I really doubt that it will be used as a mouse. It just makes no practical sense, even by Nintendo standards. A mouse only works as a concept in tabletop mode. It would be awkward as hell in handheld and docked mode to use it as a mouse, if it would even work at all. Alex's suggestion of it just being used for more accurate motion capture sound far more likely to me.
I'm on the opposite side of this. An optical sensor needs a frame of reference to capture position. That's why you have the sensor bar on the Wii and WiiU. Without a frame of reference is impossible for the joycon to capture the position through an optical sensor. It would depend on the color of the wall, the things present on the wall like frames, paintings, plants, anything that obstructs the view. It would depend on the illumination too. Besides all of that, that's not how "lasers" work. A laser is a very focused ray of light. It goes in a straight line and not like a "cone". So if you point to a wall and you are NOT PERFECTLY PERPENDICULAR TO IT, the laser will miss the sensor when reflected.
Plus, what happens when the joycons are attached? You would loose that functionality when the joycons are attached to the console and when they are attached to a grip. And... wouldn't it be too easy to accidentally cover the optical sensor with your fingers when it's so close to the "R" button? That would be a very bad design mistake.
I don't know... for me, everything seems to point more to the "mouse" function and not "sensor bar" one.
"It would be awkward as hell in handheld and docked mode to use it as a mouse" .. in handheld woudn't be necessary, because you already have a touchscreen... and in docked the mouse would work very similar as the touchscreen when in handheld.
You could use the R and L buttons to scroll if they’re capacitive.
Official support would maybe be cool. We used a mouse with Hypnospace Outlaw. I can’t imagine playing that game without one. Hopefully this extends to using regular mice as well.
Where there's smoke there's fire. All of these leaks and images aren't fake in my opinion. The Switch 2 will look like a more refined Switch 1. Why is this so hard for some people to comprehend?😐 Nintendo struck gold with the Switch and won't deviate too much from the design.
I wonder if a Joy-Con-as-mouse would have a usecase for Wii emulation? Imagine playing Animal Crossing City Folk and being able to switch to mouse mode (by just turning your JoyCon and perhaps pressing a button) for menus.
hmm, the "mouse" sensor being just an integrated sensor bar makes a lot of sense! however how much more precise could they be? and what would that mean for pro controllers? and when playing handheld mode? so many questions
I'm now even more hyped for Super Mario Maker 3!
THE C BUTTON LETS YOU CHANGE FROM MOUSE MODE TO CONTROLLER MODE
It totally could be for that
@ ikr
Mouse functionality would be GREAT for 2 point hospital!
If the joy-con is a mouse, does that mean we wont get analouge triggers again? Please no.
The buttons they are pressing are not the triggers
@@mikeuk666 When you hold the right joycon as a mouse, the buttons ARE the triggers.
Wish the kirby game port switch rumor/leak is true... it would be soo awesome with the kirby collection of triple deluxe, epic yarn & planet robobot... also another 3d all stars with mario 64 ds, kart 64, galaxy 2 & 3d land..
Might be? They are real and look good
no alex, this isn’t speculative. it IS final.
these joy con leaks have the literally official manufacturing number on the back of them, and they’re a new and unique one nintendo hasn’t used before.
when you put it in on nintendo’s website it validates it as real; if you change one character you get an error message. so it is real.
this leak being so real also retroactively proves the reddit one correct, so everything they specified about the console is true. meaning also the dock we saw was real; meaning the logo we have js real, etc.
This has been disproven. The website doesn't check if it's a real product, only if the check digit is correct. People have shown that you can input totally bogus serial numbers there.
@ when it comes out that the joy con are real within the next 3 months this will be a very funny comment
@@cwega2463 I didn't say the entire thing is disproven, just the website factually doesn't (really) check the serial number.
Exactly. Since those pictures in internet, they must be true, because everything in internet is true and we should believe them without questioning.
What a clown...
@ LMAOOOOOO every console leak was just confirmed
It'll be nice to see the return of point blank
I'm surprised nobody brought up Mario Paint.
My prediction: these recent leaks are real and we're gonna get an announcement as soon as this week.
As a fellow Joy-Con aficionado this does get me really excited to see what Nintendo will flaunt when we get the reveal! I’m still taking these with a huge grain of salt, so I’ll attempt to suppress my enthusiasm until we get a final confirmation.
Also great job on the mock-ups Alex. What programme did you use to create these?
Off topic observation, but as a dane and linguist, I was fascinated by Felix's very English/British accent when suddenly switching to Danish on "piletasterne" (arrow keys). 🧐😅
I hope this doesnt mean c button is for like "click" and is still connect cuz connect has been my dream idea for the last 8 years bro
They just better not have stick drift like the switch 1 joycons. I hope Nintendo has learned their lesson from that lawsuit filed against them.
And what are you going to do if they still drift. If you are still going to buy it, don’t complain.
7 years of whining. Sick and tired of you mfs
@@hass556difference is people are now aware before release 🤦♀️
@@mikeuk666 Absolutely, and I hope the people at Nintendo are too.
Every time there’s a leak, Nintendo pushes the release date back 6 months
I think its obvious now, nintendo is working on a 99 person candy crush game with local coop in which we can use the joycons as a computer mouse
Mice optical sensors have a max range of like 3 to 4 inches it's not gonna detect the space also your hand would get in the way
Nintendo Life starving for content. Nintendo give us something.
all of youtube, in fact
Damn Zion didn’t make the cut on this one 😬
Where is the d-pad? You would think that it was made clear by the majority of us that it should be there that a individual buttons aren't that good.
I'd love for all the leaks to be false and Nintendo to put out a system with a clamshell design 2 screens and a dock. When attached to a TV, you can use the base system as the second screen, but on the go, you'll still have 2.
Also StreetPass is there.
HI I wished Nintendo would of made the Switch 2 with an OLED Screen, I suppose this could happen at some point?
I was just saying yesterday how I really wish switch sports was anywhere near the same level as wii sports. Fingers crossed for motion controls!
Finally another chat, this is the only content I care about
Mario paint 2 coming to Nintendo switch 2, soon!
Joycon as a mouse would be great! It would make the Switch 2 feel more like its own unique system rather than just a “Switch Pro”
This could be HUGE for stardew valley on switch
I love stardew but I much prefer the computer control scheme but if this leak is real and if CA takes advantage of this I could play stardew on the go with my prefered control scheme!
Oh lawd I knew exactly what Felix was on about, it was called Tank Trouble
We used to play that, and yes the mouse was extremely good
Nintendo's RUclips channel has been oddly quiet. They haven't uploaded anything for a couple of weeks.
Nintendo left the market.
so youre meant to take a mouse pad with you everywhere?
yes, it will be a new Nintendo accessory for only $30.
Please Alex stop interrupting your cohosts mid sentence. Your videos on your own are great, but it’s hard to listen in group videos sometimes. I also have a very loud voice so I can relate, but think you could balance the sounds levels to accommodate the difference in loudness between your voice, and Felix/Zion’s.
It's a shame if it's the same shape. I guess that means I'll have to buy another Satisfye grip.
8:48
watched the whole video anyway
I would like a small vaccum cleaner attached to it.
If the controllers are mice, it'll blow my mind
If it does have mouse capability, they will make a full sized clip in mouse grip for the new joycon (similar to the wiimote clipping into the mario kart wheel)
Third party manufacturers would probably come up with something too.
If it's real, I need the C&C: Red Alert Remaster on Switch 2 immediately!
Felix PK Freezing Alex 👏🏼
6:50 Why not both?
Still looks uncomfortable if it's real.
a mouse would be incredible, that idea has actully blown my mind, ill be so disappointed now if its not a thing lol
legion go mouse mode
People acting like Nintendo is innovating and inventing, but the Legion Go already does this.
So the new switch has new buttons. Cool
This is the best take video I’ve seen on the recent switch 2 leaks
Everything is a lie until Nintendo announces it. That’s my take.
🤦♂️
👍
Then why are you even in a video discussing about leak??
Dude it’s real. You’ve been spoiled. Sorry!
Nuh uh
Reminds me of the Lenovo Legion Go
If this can also double as a travel mouse for my work laptop… that would be a game changer. Split joy cons are already my favorite PC and Phone controllers.
I'm afraid the real thing will never be as cool as all the fan theories because the limitations of the real world, like no way all of that is gonna cost less than $500
(I'm referring to having any sort of image processing inside the joycons itself)
And no game dev will bother to utilize it if it is real. They don't even bother optimize their games. They just want to ship it as quickly as possible.
Nintendo Desktop..? Nintendo themed MS office etc..
Just use a mouse.
Console needs USB outlet for that.
@sparkypack the switch dock has USB outlets.
@@bingo96-y5l True. I totally forgot after playing handheld for years and years.
you cant show the real pic??? why
Miyamoto is watching. 😄
Might be? They're real. Nintendo waited too long to announce the platform, period.