It’s sad bro. Look at Fernando Vargas too… and yet we still got fans that boo when a fighter boxes around and tries not to get hit, they expect them to go full on brawls every time. The fans don’t have to deal with the life time trauma.
His son signs with top rank, then they dumped him. Goldenboy gave him a second opportunity. Shane’s just mad at Oscar because Oscar still owns goldenboy and is a big promotional company.
Didn’t they say the same thing about don king? About bob arum? Or how about Eddie Hearn? Promoting is a business and sometimes you have to agree to disagree with certain people. Oscar built goldenboy from the ground up not by going behind peoples back stealing fighters.
You know its bad when the snake Richard Schaefer, who was CEO of Golden Boy at the time of Pacquiao v Mosely, sees Mosely as turning his back on the company to work with Top Rank to finalize the deal. 😂. Shane mentions Oscar but it was actually Richard who was running Golden Boy at the time
@@YoungBreeze252 that’s my point. You have to be smarter than your wife and you’re so-called business partner. Especially your the main financial provider. I’ve never had a joint bank account with anyone. I knew when I was a youngster that you don’t let people have access to your money. So many examples that you could learn from, unfortunately Shane wasn’t about his business.
Shane should have never taken that pacman fight if it meant giving up ownership in a company. He would have made triple the money by now that he made in the pacman fight. Glad he is at peace and enjoying life though.
I respect Shane and I think he just got alot of hate towards Oscar because Oscar went on and became a successful businessman. I feel a lot of people including Floyd hate Oscar for that same reason.
@@oridsolutions4405just like Canelo and Tyson Fury lied about steroids, list goes on and on…besides who got more integrity in general between Shane and coke boy/fishnet de la Hoya? And did Shane himself say that he gave up his stake back then?
@robkeller3431 you don't have to take too much punishment. Everybody is different, some people don't have the resistance that others have. Some fighters took more punishment than ali and they are fine mentally and physically.
I love your platform Art but I wish you would have had him elaborate on how he was finessed out of his portion. I know he says he got beat in court because he couldn’t fight it financially but how did it make it to court to begin with? How did he become aware that Oscar finessed him?
When it comes to MONEY its best to lawyer up cause even family will hang you up to dry, surely all these promoters mentioned have taken advantage business-wise of their fighters, etc... its the darkside of Boxing as in all sports
When Oscar started golden boy he galvanized all the old champions Mosley Hopkins Barrera and a couple more guys! Gave them all 5% ownership turned around and didn’t pay any of them! They took him to court and he paid them off and the only one left with a small percentage is Hopkins!
Love Shane Mosley! Wish I can meet him. I’m a big mma fan but the more I watch boxing the more I appreciate the art. Shane is one of the best! No doubt.
Us as a whole we do each other so wrong it's ridiculous and I do understand the loot issue that comes wit it but we're fu@king each other ova fo a fu@kin percentage of a lil bit of nuthn and we just have to have it all and you can't take it wit you
When don king would manipulate fighters (black ones in particular) he’d say come sign over here don’t listen to the white devil etc. I wonder what Oscar’s pitch to sign a deal is.
Damn Oscar has allegedly stolen from Canelo and now Shane Mosley. Oscar has become everything he swore to destroy. He said he will become a promoter for the fighters. And be the opposite of Don King and Bob Arum but he became just like them
Kind of comes with the territory it's not always just but they have to make decisions to keep the train rollin and certain sacrifices have to be made yes a lot of promotes are greedy but they take more losses than wins and still have to pay the fighters and their staff
They are all the same!! They just point the finger at each other it’s the fighter that has to have his paperwork in order.A lot of these guys come from the streets so the know nothing about business or contracts,same as rappers.Its tough.
💚💛❤️…sounds like the same shit Lyor Cohen did to me with my fathers inheritance (Bob Marley) …his PONZI practices have followed him everywhere…Def Jam, Atlantic, Warner, 300 and now You Tube🥴😬
@@athomerecordschannel what does that have to do with my comment? A “vailed” threat from adversaries? “Rip” …? This conversation has been screenshot, peace beloved…
It seems like nowadays everybody has a story, but yet nobody wants to tell the real one, I'm pretty sure there was a contract that was signed by Mosley and apparently he didn't read the contract, now all of a sudden it's bad business think about it, if you go and buy a car and they're telling you here's a 19 % interest rate would you still buy it, so why should anybody feel bad for you if you sign something like that if you're struggling with the High car note, plain and simple it's all business read what you're signing
People don't often respect a athletes kids who join the sport because they had a easy spoiled life most of the time. People dont give those kind of fighters the same kind of respect they have to do a lot to earn that. You might have a soft image on you people still wondering about his son.
With the ex and De La Hoya, Shane had to deal with two extremely dishonest, dishonourable people.
Gotta respect the spirit of a man that says I'll come back up👊🏽
He’s a KNOWN cheater to tho!!!
Bruh just watching him talk them headshots starting to show 😢
I've been saying that for at least a year.
It’s sad bro. Look at Fernando Vargas too… and yet we still got fans that boo when a fighter boxes around and tries not to get hit, they expect them to go full on brawls every time. The fans don’t have to deal with the life time trauma.
@@stmichale6192 i agree. Fernando was in some wars and wounded beyond repair in the long term.
@@hardworkmcgee2998Shane had far more wars, he faced heavy hitters like Vernon twice, Canelo, pac, margarito, Fernando, de la hoya twice, Cotto….
Shane took the most of his punches later on ,when he slowed down ,the problem was masked by his strong chin ,but now he show the result
Never let ur son sign to an enemy
I think he was signed before everything went south.
His son signs with top rank, then they dumped him. Goldenboy gave him a second opportunity. Shane’s just mad at Oscar because Oscar still owns goldenboy and is a big promotional company.
Oscar like “yea, we own your son too.”
He signed before when Shane own 5%
It seems like nobody who's worked with Oscar has anything good to say about him
That’s ALL promoters
At least you beat his ass trice Oscar’s always be a lieing bastard everyone says the same thing
It’s not just Oscar. I mean look at mayweather promotions. Haney passed and tank can’t wait to start his own thing
Didn’t they say the same thing about don king? About bob arum? Or how about Eddie Hearn? Promoting is a business and sometimes you have to agree to disagree with certain people. Oscar built goldenboy from the ground up not by going behind peoples back stealing fighters.
Then Why is Bernard Hopkins still with Oscar ? Fernando Vargas is also crying that Oscar didnt sign his kids now we got mosley crying
You know its bad when the snake Richard Schaefer, who was CEO of Golden Boy at the time of Pacquiao v Mosely, sees Mosely as turning his back on the company to work with Top Rank to finalize the deal. 😂. Shane mentions Oscar but it was actually Richard who was running Golden Boy at the time
You don’t know who was running what and when… My guess is it was Shane going to court against Oscar, so he knows…
@@apache7074 it's not hard to look up genius. Mosely fought Pacquiao in May 2011 and Richard Schaefer ran Golden Boy until June 2014.
Surprisingly, Shane is saying anything about Oscar. He's always defended him.
Payback for beating him in the ring. Shane is a class act even in this situation
Why is bHop still with the company now then?
@@yarmus718 cause him and Shane go way way back.
@@yarmus718 bhop is probably a boot licker
Could not have been winning because attorneys would have taken it on contingency if it were worth millions.
People are always quick to blame others for their struggles
Stfu.You don’t know wtf you talking about.
To a certain extent sometimes it's true.
Something not right with Shane ..
Too much blows to the head.. it's obvious
CTE
Yeah he’s been a little off from the brutal sport
Can’t stop moving (shaking & twitching) while he talks😬
no shit Sherlock
He has an excuse for EVERYTHING!!
An excuse of HIS TRUTH??? Who tf are you to say which it is
@@bryandungee1029HE IS A OSCAR DE LA HOYA, LUST BOY, A LIAR AND A CHEAT JUST LIKE OSCAR. THATS WHO THAT HOT SMOLDERING PILE OF DOG SHIT IS. 1
Yes. This man's excuses are too much
I guess had he got the 5% or continued on - Jen would have taken it anyway.
Technically she would have taken 2.5% ? Right
@@yrnx9334 Perhaps! Depending on individual state laws.
50 million dollars 😅😅 sheesh nah bro we never cool lol
That’s why you got to start your own so no one can’t take it. Shane should be worth 100 million minimum. Got to do better
After his wife and Oscar got done with him, he was about broke to start anything
@@YoungBreeze252 that’s my point. You have to be smarter than your wife and you’re so-called business partner. Especially your the main financial provider. I’ve never had a joint bank account with anyone. I knew when I was a youngster that you don’t let people have access to your money. So many examples that you could learn from, unfortunately Shane wasn’t about his business.
Shane was never a ppv star
@@CapUnlimitedShane was one of the biggest drawcards in boxing...beat De La Hoya twice
@@DanTan_81 he was never a big drawer great fighter never a ppv star
Shane should have never taken that pacman fight if it meant giving up ownership in a company. He would have made triple the money by now that he made in the pacman fight. Glad he is at peace and enjoying life though.
I can tell you don’t know shit about boxing
I respect Shane and I think he just got alot of hate towards Oscar because Oscar went on and became a successful businessman. I feel a lot of people including Floyd hate Oscar for that same reason.
Sound hella delusional
stop it
True Oscar is the best🥊
Floyd has more money than Oscar. He doesn't like Oscar due to his bad business practices just like Canelo.
Floyd doing better than Oscar and with just on his purse for fights dont even need to add any business ventures floyd has done.
Oscar would never steal from no one. According to Oscar lol
I thought Shane gave up his stake in golden boy when he fought Pac-Man.
You’re right. Shane is lying, just like he lied about the steroids
@@oridsolutions4405 exactly.
@@oridsolutions4405just like Canelo and Tyson Fury lied about steroids, list goes on and on…besides who got more integrity in general between Shane and coke boy/fishnet de la Hoya? And did Shane himself say that he gave up his stake back then?
Yes that was it. I remember he gave back his stake in GB for something but couldn't remember the reason. Thanks for reminding me.
@@beestle322 exactly he’s lying. 🤥. He went after the fast money instead of the long term Bad decision
God bless this man!
Self hate....
Unfortunately this is what happens to good ppl.
This dude punch drunk
Facts
Yeah he talk funny I box and he make me not wanna go Pro
He has CTE
He didn't take much punishment, though
@robkeller3431 you don't have to take too much punishment. Everybody is different, some people don't have the resistance that others have. Some fighters took more punishment than ali and they are fine mentally and physically.
Attorneys are always the winning especially in Florida
Shane don’t look right 😞 get checked champ
Right
Anybody else notice him scratch his nose and the white pebbles fall out on his shirt before the video ends or am I trippin?
It was spit.
Shane is telling the truth but just remember Delahoya business style is Bob Arum tactics.
Damn Sugar ain't looking so sweet.
Poor lad. Clearly in pain
GB isn’t no billion dollar company. Not even close
Precisely. I guess 100 millions at the very best
So far he keeps telling stories of how everybody seems to get over on him
A damn shame he got fucked out his stake in the company
He didn't put in the work ..
If it was illegal I would think he would have sued him or something 🙄
Shane chose to fight pacquiao for 5 million, golden boy canned him because he worked with top rank promotions
Blessings to Shane Mosley 🙏🏽
I love your platform Art but I wish you would have had him elaborate on how he was finessed out of his portion. I know he says he got beat in court because he couldn’t fight it financially but how did it make it to court to begin with? How did he become aware that Oscar finessed him?
He wasn’t robbed he gave up his stake in golden boy to go fight pac. He want the right now money instead of the long money
Damn my guy really got that pomona luck I'm with ya homie
You gotta get Oscar on here
Shane didn’t negotiate his contract properly.
When it comes to MONEY its best to lawyer up cause even family will hang you up to dry, surely all these promoters mentioned have taken advantage business-wise of their fighters, etc... its the darkside of Boxing as in all sports
When Oscar started golden boy he galvanized all the old champions Mosley Hopkins Barrera and a couple more guys! Gave them all 5% ownership turned around and didn’t pay any of them! They took him to court and he paid them off and the only one left with a small percentage is Hopkins!
Love Shane Mosley! Wish I can meet him. I’m a big mma fan but the more I watch boxing the more I appreciate the art. Shane is one of the best! No doubt.
Everyone says Oscar is a crook !!!!
Oscar de la hoya is the Don King of this era 😂
Fishy...If you got something in writing why couldn't he settle or win in courts ?
It's funny that he didn't say anything till now,SMH
Us as a whole we do each other so wrong it's ridiculous and I do understand the loot issue that comes wit it but we're fu@king each other ova fo a fu@kin percentage of a lil bit of nuthn and we just have to have it all and you can't take it wit you
Hard to blame Oscar, who I can't stand, for winning in business.
Especially when recognizing the position of B Hop right now.
Reporter: So how do you feel that you're broke and he aint?
If Shane LEGALLY and CORRECTLY ( which means having contract and paperwork ) owned 5% of Golden Boy Promotions then Oscar can’t take jack diddly.
Bernard Hopkins ain’t complaining. But I’m very of a lot for sure people ain’t street-smart and slick like Bernard Hopkins either.
Consequences of boxing, he is not 100% he needs close captions.
Hopkins better lawyer up
Get De la Hoya, on your show
Let’s see what he has to say
God bless Shane you could tell
He is a good guy….
How is anyone surprised when someone who got caught crossed dressing does something weird
He needs to show receipts
I was mad as hell when Mosely retired... Was my pick in his weight class 💯
Dude is broke 😂😂😂
I knew Mosley was not making the right decision by involved himself with Oscar. He should have worked with Floyd and TMT
If it was not legal then he would not have won
Oscar de Your Dinero
Damn i hate to see this. You can tell he took too many hits by how he's talking.
I always thought Mosley was part owner
So he said Oscar took his 5% but let’s son sign to him ?? More to the story I’m sure
U agreed to give up ownership when you fault pac. Stop whining bad business move.
He would have had 50 million dollars
Didn't Shane Mosley test positive for steroids after he fought Dela Hoya????
Oscar, the new Don King...
Pathetic, who would ever sign with him.
All boxers sound slow af
He has poor lawyers and Managements, Shane is a Boxer who getting Rob by the legal system now
Seems canelo wasn’t lying bout it
I am a minute in, what is the thing?
When don king would manipulate fighters (black ones in particular) he’d say come sign over here don’t listen to the white devil etc. I wonder what Oscar’s pitch to sign a deal is.
That man is lying
Oscar did you dirty then now you got your son working with him, huh
Why he let his son sign with him if its all bad? He just mad understandably his son aint being made a star
Damn Oscar has allegedly stolen from Canelo and now Shane Mosley. Oscar has become everything he swore to destroy. He said he will become a promoter for the fighters. And be the opposite of Don King and Bob Arum but he became just like them
K you believe that, and Don KIng fighters got real fights, and they made money
Lol, they get into promoting for the money, every promotors goal is just to make money Im sure they are all snakes
Kind of comes with the territory it's not always just but they have to make decisions to keep the train rollin and certain sacrifices have to be made yes a lot of promotes are greedy but they take more losses than wins and still have to pay the fighters and their staff
GGG had to sue DeLaHoya for money that was owed to him.
They are all the same!! They just point the finger at each other it’s the fighter that has to have his paperwork in order.A lot of these guys come from the streets so the know nothing about business or contracts,same as rappers.Its tough.
Shane is just a shadow of himself… it’s sad man.
Remember Oscar wesring a black fishnet bodysuit? Look it up 😂
The crazy part is when he admitted to it. Talking about he was doing drugs.
Everybody took advantage of shane mosley, especially his kids’ mother
as ducknelo said he steals money
Run it back with oscar a third time whoop him again lol
Oscar Snake a Hoya
My conclusion about Mosley is that he is a cornball
Hes around millionare and billionares im sure sometimes i would of tried to partner up with someone.
💚💛❤️…sounds like the same shit Lyor Cohen did to me with my fathers inheritance (Bob Marley) …his PONZI practices have followed him everywhere…Def Jam, Atlantic, Warner, 300 and now You Tube🥴😬
R.I.P Moese Angel, and salute and respect to Luna Angel.
@@athomerecordschannel what does that have to do with my comment? A “vailed” threat from adversaries? “Rip” …? This conversation has been screenshot, peace beloved…
I'm taking that 100k and using that for A hit
Oscar is just protecting what he built his name and nick name reflecks the company business is business
It seems like nowadays everybody has a story, but yet nobody wants to tell the real one, I'm pretty sure there was a contract that was signed by Mosley and apparently he didn't read the contract, now all of a sudden it's bad business think about it, if you go and buy a car and they're telling you here's a 19 % interest rate would you still buy it, so why should anybody feel bad for you if you sign something like that if you're struggling with the High car note, plain and simple it's all business read what you're signing
Shane took steroids and fought Oscar if I was Oscar I would’ve done the same thing 🧠
and he beat your ass😂😂😂
Shane Jr is not good
All respects to Shane, but Oscar showed love signing his son. A mediocre fighter, riding his dads name.
Why you let your son sign with him knowing he fucced you over? That’s crazy
Well Oscar was robbed in the second Mosley fight so fair game
Bullsh!t there’s no reason for Oscar to be ripping off all these dudes…
Ryan Garcia, Canelo Alvarez, Shane Mosley Snr & Jr....Oscar de la coke head consistantly screwing fighters over.
Shane it's sad to say that your son is Oscar's enemy by association
That’s what he get with signing with someone who doesn’t look like u
People don't often respect a athletes kids who join the sport because they had a easy spoiled life most of the time. People dont give those kind of fighters the same kind of respect they have to do a lot to earn that. You might have a soft image on you people still wondering about his son.
Son ain’t got it
This guy has to be the biggest victim of all time 😂
Yeah, him & Meek Mill.
@@melvinhhcp3615 💯
Goofy talk
Nah, he said he good. How he a victim?
This what canelo said two weeks ago that de la Hoya a thief