I dead ass remember my dad visibly face palming to the "I know sex exists, I just haven't experienced it." I've never seen my dad so visibly dissapointed in a movie before.
Moral of the story: Just accept failing, but also don't do that. Also I think this has been pointed out, but WHY was Barry not concerned with WHO killed his mom? He's not even changing anything by seeing who did it!
@@oneinathousand2156 Yeah, which makes total sense in the context of his mothers death in this movie ... of course Barry's dad being also in the house would totally stop Eobard from killing the mother. It's not like he could run in and stab her even without being seen, even if that's something he would care about. Normally it's the Flash who stops Reverse Flash from killing his mother, so yeah, pretty stupid to add this little detail to the movie.
Imagine doing Flashpoint without Eobard Thawne. That’s like doing the Killing Joke without Joker, or Kraven’s Last Hunt without Kraven, or… ok you get the point already I assume.
@@lordmontymord8701 The reason why is because the movie explains he can’t intervene in who kills his mom like he can’t be “involve” when wanting to change his mother's fate.
This movie really got made and left theaters in a flash. I guess you could say you cant always rely on nostalgia. I remember this was featured at the super bowl
bruh it flopped HARD 200-220 million budget right? it made 267 MILLON. (this shit even flopped like trash, is there anything this shit movie can’t do?)
My favorite streamer desciribed the cameos in this movie as "a parade of corpses". The best part is that people thought he was talking about how bad the CGI is rather than the way the movie practically practices necromancy in its blatant attempts at nostalgia bait.
i'd still hate it even if the CGI looked near perfect. the fact they used fake likenesses of multiple dead actors (George Reeves in particular) just for a cheap key-jiggling nostalgiabait scene is absolutely unethical. this is the one movie that i'm happy failed at the box office.
@@A-Ner2 Oh yeah, I'm not saying it would be fine if the CGI were good. It's royally f*cked up, and from what I've heard, I don't think WB even paid the estates of the deceased actors to use their likenesses or bothered checking if any of them were still alive. Because one of the deep fakes they used (I think from an old live action Flash show) is not only still alive, but he only found out his likeness was used when other people asked him about the movie on social media. Seriously, this movie was a mistake on virtually every level imaginable. And if THIS is what they went ahead with, I can only imagine how much worse that cancelled Batgirl movie must have been.
Adding insult to injury, apparently Nic Cage recorded a really emotional performance of seeing his home reality falling apart, but the only thing that made the final cut was him fighting the giant spider
If that got revealed I wouldn't be surprised. You could tell me that they have a wine cellar full of bones from recreating Cask of Amontillado several times over for their own sick pleasure and I'd be like "Yeah that tracks."
And WB would still claim all of this isn't true because they simply can't aknowledge Miller should have been replaced. Or at least they would if there was a chance for a The Flash 2 - so sad thats not going to happen.
I really hate that they didn’t introduce reverse-flash in this, since he played a big role in both mocking and confirming that Barry was the one that created this doomed universe but sadly they didn’t do that.🐱
What are you talking about? Reverse Flash appears in this movie twice! They even had him do villainous things irl like choking women or terrorizing Hawaii as a clever PR campaign
They really made an adaptation of Flashpoint but forgot to include the main antagonist of Flashpoint who is also potentially Barry’s greatest archnemesis. I mean, for fuck’s sake, even the CW got that part right.
From what i heard reverse flash was in the movie. Director confirmed (i heard this from someone else so grain of salt) that reverse flash is the man that killed barry’s mom yet never bother to include any scenes hinting towards that after the fact. They clearly didn’t know what to do with the film.
You know, apparently Supergirl’s characterisation in this is actually closer to the comics. In a few of the comics, she’s apparently a really aggravated and isolated person who isn’t a huge fan of humans. She apparently never even made a secret identity for herself for years, and it probably took a bunch of encouragement from Clark to do it. In a lot of more recent things, though, she’s just seen as this super optimistic female Superman. Not saying this makes the movie great, as comic accuracy doesn’t automatically mean good, but it’s still fun to point out.
I agree, and also Sasha was great, it's just a shame they wasted her and her Supergirl ( which they could've developed into liking humans ) if she wasn't a one time thing, it's a shame she had to be in this movie. Especially after knowing that Supergirl was her idol and that she felt honored to play her and she hoped that Henry Cavill liked her as Supergirl, and I believe he even gave his blessings and good luck 😭 She was so passionate about this and they ruined it by having her in this movie 😭
And I will even give MAWS so much credit for exemplifying this aspect of hers, making her at first curious and astonished yet annoyed and weirded out by human customs at the same time. She was tough at first, especially with humanity, but Superman and especially Jimmy eventually helped out in making her see the good of it all and helped her care for humanity.
@@aaaaagh-thegoat I think people were just payed, the reviews were suspiciously identical and I don't think a single one brought up negatives outside of 1 I remember saying "Ezra made few mistakes"
@leguac4187 reviewers and media companies like IGN need to praise these movies or atleast give them decent reviews to maintain good relationships with studios and continue getting early access to popular media through review copies and early screenings, it's a really roundabout way of paying them for good reviews.
Did anyone really say that??? Ok, that has to be a joke or they were really payed. I can understand if someone likes the movie (i mean there are people who really think The Last Jedi is a great movie), but the "greatest" comic book movie? But perhaps someone who only saw Supergirl, Catwoman and all the other bottom five adaptations and also never heard anything of all the other superhero-movies could say that ...
I’m really glad you added the No meme section for that part of your video, your very respectful and im glad u told the story of what happened and how fucked up it was to use cgi on someone who literally couldn’t have a say if they wanted some cameo.
I don’t love this movie but I did really like Ben Affleck’s send off scene and the “old soul” vibe he was giving. Side note if WB wanted cameos in this movie so bad then instead of bringing back dead actors they could’ve just used people like Grant Gustin, Brandon Routh, and Henry Cavill. Why they didn’t just do that I have no idea. Even Marvel at least used actual actors for the cameos in Multiverse of Madness.
That's what gets me about the Christopher Reeve cameo. Brandon played a version of that iteration through Superman Returns. They literally coulda got him. Also hilarious that in this movie about THE FLASH, the only real alternate Flash in this entire movie was the Jay Garrick cameo while we get four Batmen[no offense Keaton and Fleck, y'all carried it], four Superpeople, and three Ezra Millers.
Y’know, i am glad that they made Supergirl similar to how she was in the comics. Her being raised on krypton and thusly feeling like an outcast and letting her anger get the best of her is her entire character. So it was horrific to see her turned into “female Superman” in the CW show. Although they definitely did make her far more bland than she is in the comics
She was the one good thing in this movie, but since her character didn't get that much attention (since we needed TWO Millers to care about), it's still not much.
yeah, especially since they have her come to earth so young. The point is that she comes to earth at around 16 years old at least, making her far more of an outcast. Honestly a supergirl series of her landing on earth and then having to adapt to it while trying to live up the standard her cousin already set and control her emotions sounds really interesting.
@@ProjektTaku I hope you are talking about Young Miller, because Old Miller was the best thing that happened to cinema. Realizing that his "armor" was just all the Kryptonian metal stuck in his body broke me - i couldn't stop laughing for at least half a minute. Too good nobody in my screening cared about the movie or i might have gotten into trouble ...
True story, Micheal Keaton’s Batman was originally gonna be in the Batgirl movie on HBOMAX before WB cancelled the film just before it was finished. If you ask me, they should’ve saved Michael Keaton for a Batman Beyond movie instead of this or Batgirl.
Yeah, but i'm sure there won't be a Batman Beyond with Keaton, because even if he was willing to do it WB surely blames the failure of The Flash on him too. Even if that is nonsene.
Not only is it morally disgusting for them to still release this movie after Ezra Miller was outed as a criminal, but it's even more heinous to make a shitty cgi version of Christopher Reeve and George Reeves to sell a shitty product. This movie is a prime example of moral degeneracy in Hollywood and it needs to be cracked down on hard.
22:34 Holy hell. Now that you've mentioned it, just when you thought the "tribute" of Christopher Reeves Superman was already disrespectful enough, the George Reeves "tribute" wasn't only problematic, it feels pretty evil. The sheer audacity of Warner Brothers thinking we will just buy anything that we recognize (even if it means using CGI of late actors for lifeless and pointless cameos) as long it will grant them the big bucks. I know The Flash movie nor Warner Brothers as a whole aren't RUclips related, but to quote Pyrocynical: "RUclips has proven to me that you can't even die right.", it perfectly describes the movie and the company's actions.
@@PrincessMavenKittyDarkholmein short, George Reeves fell into depression for unable to get any successful job outside of being just the actor of superman which he got tired of being known as, thus shortly took his own life with a gun
@bitsylecatlover2297 Wasn't there an implication of George Reeves getting murdered rather than suicide? I know it's still a mystery to this day, but I don't think committing suicide by the first bullet missing, and a second bullet in the head is possible. Or maybe that's just me.
11:36 Not only did the Flashpoint movie was better in general but it also came after a whole bunch of movies that let us know the characters thus making the changes in the alternate timeline way more interesting.
It honestly amazes me that Warner Bros thought Micheal Keaton would be the megastar to revitalize the DCEU. They wanted his version of Batman to appear in this movie, Batgirl and Aquaman 2 as if to say "finally, our saving grace is here, a 70 year old man whose bored out of his mind and is only familiar if you grew up with the Tim Burton movies". This would be like if I wanted to revitalize the Fast and Furious franchise and I brought Morgan Freeman, Micheal Caine and Al Pacino on board.
Again agreed Flashpoint is a bad choice for a first Flash Movie, it’s like having Spider-Man get the Symbiote in his first movie or having Batman experiencing Knightfall in his first ever movie! Also not featuring Reverse Flash was a very stupid move when you consider that He’s the One who Killed Barry’s Mother!
Not sure what you expected, It's not like Warner Bros is gonna just let him shit on the film, it's not the most honest move integrity wise, but unless he wants to throw his chances at directing future DC projects off the window he just kinda has to promote this shit they were making as he joined DC.
If that was deliberate because they couldn't outright ditch him. He's clinging on by some sinister way. Maybe he has blackmail material on some people. Then good on them. Assassinate his career if you can't outright ditch him.
@@evandaymon8303 Maybe they can't do that. He might be clinging on with some sinister methods. Maybe he has blackmail material on someone/s. The obvious option is fire and blacklist him. But if they can't. Assassinate his career instead.
I think what hurts me most is that flashpoint the comic is the first big comic story I ever truly loved. It’s pretty much what got me into comics and seeing it butchered like this is just depressing. They swapped strange alt versions of heroes fighting each other for memba berries shrimple as that.
Same it was what developed my love for comics and D.C , I'm glad I didn't waste my money on a bastardazation of beloved comic again( the first time was BVS lol)
The fact that a decade-old 1h 21m direct-to-video animated movie had both a better narrative *AND* better visuals than a recently-released 2h 24m live-action theatrical blockbuster says a hell of a lot...
The Marvel Cinematic Universe’s 10 year anniversary - Infinity War, the most ambitious crossover of 2018 The DC Extended Universe’s 10 year anniversary - “Fuck it, we’re rebooting it again with The Flash.”
I'm sorry, but infinity war was definitely not the most ambitious crossover ever lmao. Smash, MVC, idk, the literal DC and marvel crossover comic event were and still are more ambitious
What's upsetting to me is that Michael Keaton ended up returning for this movie, personally it would of been better if they made a batman beyond movie.
while i had a few good moments with it like the more emotional parts, i just wanna say if you want to experience this movie's story without dealing with the dubious special effects, the story halting for a bunch of disrespectful CG cameos and... Ezra Miller, just read Flashpoint instead, I recommend it as a better way to digest this plot. it's the comic story that the movie loosely adapts and it has a full, proper start-to-end story that also acts as a lead into the New 52 era of DC Comics. it also has a lot of moments that make the comic better on its own because it doesn't tie in to a bunch of other stuff or hell, just for the memes, watch the Flashpoint Paradox animated film instead. i just hope Sasha Calle got her checks from this
I really hope The new DCEU is a complete reboot, DC did a half ass reboot before with new 52 in the comics and that shit completely stained DC's reputation
@@HELLO_KORO lol yeah, the new 52 got especially weird later on when they killed off new 52 superman and replaced him with pre-new 52 superman and his son, only to later merge them for whatever reason. They also did something similar by having new 52 superboy replaced with pre-new 52 superboy. Idk why they couldn't just have pre and post new 52 superman merge first instead of killing new 52 SM off, and just retcon new 52 superboy into being like the pre-new 52 superboy (just say that him being the clone of jonathan kent from a alt future was a lie and he actually was a clone of present day clark and lex luthor, and have him either adopt the jeans and black shirt or 90s leather jacket look).
The whole George Reeves CGI controversy honestly makes me thankful that Christopher Nolan decided to not CGI Heath Ledger in The Dark Knight Rises. Take notes, you corporate hacks.
2:24 "People can not like The Flash and some of their CGI; that's their right." Bro, didn't Smith reacted negatively to He-Man fans calling him out for false advertising in his shitty He-man Revelation?
I first liked this on first viewing, but I will admit, on first viewing, the CGI in the film makes Black Panther look like How To Train Your Dragon, the titular lead is like every bad MCU character thrown into a blender, and thank you for making me aware of the cruel treatment of the actor who played Superman in the 50’s. This actually was the first time I’ve heard about it, and it shocked me even hearing about it, and how the cameos of two versions of Superman, played by two actors who have died, have been used in the film for nostalgia bait rather than doing anything of value in the climax scene.
If you told me this movie was a laundry money scheme, I would believe it. Because the budget definitely did not go to directing,cgi,writing... or anything related to the development of this product. I definitely have high hopes for Aquaman 2. I just hope Amber doesn't crap the bed. Literally.
Something which a film like this needs to be able to do is stand out on its own. Spiderverse can do that. Spider-Man No Way Home can (arguably) do that. But, without context from the previous source materials, The Flash feels too underdeveloped in some areas like Zod, and scenes like the dead cameos are even more distracting than they already are. I choose to keep an optimistic look on the future, but I can see how people would be concerned with the type of media (or world in general) the new generation of children are going to experience.
Fun fact: I watched this movie with a friend and he was totally confused by the Nick Cage-stuff (and George Reeves too, but at least thats more commonly known than Superman Lives). So i - who watched An Evening with Kevin Smith on DVD years ago - had to explain this to him afterwards ... Great idea putting that in - and it's not even accurate, because John Peters didn't want Superman to fly, so they fucked up. Of course he also said - according to Smith - that he didn't want Sups to wear his suit, but since there is the famous casting photo of Cage in the costume i'll give that one a pass 😉
Wrong, Miles morales can't carry a movie just by himself, which is why they again dragged a bunch of other spiderman's from alternative dimensions all over again with Gwen also taking most of the screentime.
I didn't even know they were using AI to bring back dead actors. That's actually fucked up. Thanks for telling me not to watch this movie on twitter lol
The baby microwave reminds me of a guy who did that in real life and yes he went to jail. The crazy part was that his wife's cousin and I were in a class together in college and he admits how messed up it was.
Spider-man: No Way Home is gonna be the new Shrek in the sense that it did something good (multiverse + bringing back past iterations of spiderman) to the point that other movies tried to replicate and failed at doing so, resulting in people viewing the original movie as bad because of the ripple effect it had on the industry.
Ed Boon not seeing the main issue with using cameos in The Flash makes way more sense as to why 1/3 of the roster of MK1 are characters people wanted to play as for years, but he won't let us do so.
@@kankeydong2500 Well he's not wrong, and they did it for almost similar purposes, but one that's common about both is that they wanted to become big and famous, but unfortunately something stopped them, like the Springlock suit/fake pizzeria for William Afton, or the visual proof of Ezra doing something sus/bad and the bombing of The Flash, both faced similar successes and failures, but there's one who's gonna face far worse than the sweet release of passing away that William Afton faced, one who will actually pay for what he did instead of getting trapped inside a metal suit for years on end (though if you think about it, their fates wouldn't be to far from different, like being trapped in a suit is no different than being trapped in a jail cell, only difference is that you have more room in the cell, but, then it makes you vulnerable to the elements that come with it, either way justice will be served, though in this day and age, sometimes it takes longer to prosecute someone who's famous compared to someone who isn't, just saying is all).
Well something like this can work as proven before. Marvel used indie directors you wouldn't expect to make a movie like this to good effect (at least sometimes). But if you give them a bad script and in the end force them to make the movie the way you as the producer/studio want while ignoring all their original ideas, it has to end in a disaster.
You've got to give people a chance. How else do you get new talent. The guy didn't have much good stuff to work with. And what he did have probabely had a lot of control from some awful producer.
The only reason why this movie wasn't canceled is because they put way too much money into it and needed it to keep the dc movies going so they can finally get an mcu equivalent that is actually profitable so they can milk it just as much as marvel did
Honestly i would've like it if they did an actual accurate Flashpoint movie since that comic story has some good stuff like Bruce Waynes dad being Batman and his mom being the Joker and how their dynamic is so emotional and almost too real. Pretty much what I'm saying is if they left Ezra Miller a small part of the movie then it would be ten times better
I have a theory about this movie. That the reason why so many celebrity scumbags have gotten away with their crimes like Ezra is because we live in the Earth 33 version of the Flashpoint timeline. Some speedster went back in time to stop an assassination and they succeeded, but the time boom messed a lot of other things up
It's easier to accept that it's a similar universe lol Just like the villains in No Way Home, some are so inconsistent that it's easier to say they came from a universe similar of Tobey and Andrew movies
like, wow, the fact that Flash was upset that a woman he saved was rushing to get out of immediate danger didn't stop to thank him. dude, the danger is still there. give her a moment to make sure her family and friends are safe first.
When you think about how long this movie was in production, it couldn't have been that long between the recording for it and Justice League; principal photography was reported to have been in early 2021, so like 4 years apart. Miller wasn't this trash in Justice League. What the heck happened between 2017 and 2021 to make them like this? Did Miller's quarantine just go THAT bad???
Thank you dumbsville you are the reason i own deus ex game series on my steam account. Not only i play it now i learn about it thanks to you. The most intresting thing about flash movie is post credit scene due to my mothers love to aquaman.
I also have to say the director tried defending the CGI 💀 saying as he quotes “It’s Barry Allen’s Perspective.” 💀 That’s just sad, just admit your CGI is Ass 💀💀
This movie would've been... slightly better if it was Zoom/Reverse-Flash that tricked Barry into changing the time-line, so that Zoom could become the new Flash and do shenanigans.
the only thing I like about this film is that the opening scene doesn't hide the fact it's in Glasgow and I get to go "huh I've walked down that street"
My dad watched that movie, he doesn't care about controversies as long he can enjoy the movie for what it is... so he pirated it lmao . I also wanted to watch it but only because I needed to know why did Erza Miller cosplaying as Flash put a baby in a microwave, I watched why I hold my laugh and went upstairs to reflect about the microwaves and the bad cgi
I knew this movie was going to be shit when they had two Ezra Millers. One is bad enough, who thought adding an even more annoying ezra miller was a good idea?
Woah, this movie is so good it may just surpass Little Cars 2-Dark Knight Rising! In all seriousness, Justice League Animated was the SHIT when I was younger. So many cool arcs and stories to tell with unique and interesting characters. Even that weird "Men have purpose too!" women arc was enjoyable. Seeing the Justice League reduced to this is just... sad. Superheroes are so cool HOW ARE STUDIOS MAKING THEM BORING. Insane.
Honesty if they swapped our George Reeves Superman and Jay Garrick with...IDK, The CW variants and Grant Gustin?! I-I don't know, I'd enjoy the cameos at the end a tiny bit more.
Thinking about it more, Spider-Man No Way Home is a *both* a blessing *and* a curse. I say a curse because it leads to more multiverse “No Way Home wannabe” movies like The Flash as well as the unfortunate rise of necromancy and by association A.I.
The most funniest thing about this movie is how a costume designer said “this movie will make you forget Ezra Miller’s crimes.” 💀
lmao they really said that shit?
@@Starry_Waveyep 💀💀💀
@@WEYYYY874 OOF
💀 is the only suitable emoji for this
NAH 💀💀💀
I dead ass remember my dad visibly face palming to the "I know sex exists, I just haven't experienced it." I've never seen my dad so visibly dissapointed in a movie before.
Imagine your movie sucking that much.
damn, that’s just damn 💀
Poor dad
I know dad jokes are infamous but it would be a compliment to call this movie a bad joke.
That's a big claim
I loved the pert where Ezra Miller said "We live in a society" and then kidnapped a girl in Hawaii.
Remember when Ezra said it’s flashing time and wiped it out on the little girl
I loved the part where Jared Leto stabbed one of the Millers an screamed "who's the bigger creep now?!"
Is there a lore reason why The flashed a minor? Is he stupid???
Moral of the story: Just accept failing, but also don't do that.
Also I think this has been pointed out, but WHY was Barry not concerned with WHO killed his mom? He's not even changing anything by seeing who did it!
I heard the director confirmed it was Reverse-Flash who did it. I sure do love when important story details are only revealed after the fact 🙄
Yeah,Why didn’t they include him?
@@oneinathousand2156 Yeah, which makes total sense in the context of his mothers death in this movie ... of course Barry's dad being also in the house would totally stop Eobard from killing the mother. It's not like he could run in and stab her even without being seen, even if that's something he would care about.
Normally it's the Flash who stops Reverse Flash from killing his mother, so yeah, pretty stupid to add this little detail to the movie.
Imagine doing Flashpoint without Eobard Thawne. That’s like doing the Killing Joke without Joker, or Kraven’s Last Hunt without Kraven, or… ok you get the point already I assume.
@@lordmontymord8701 The reason why is because the movie explains he can’t intervene in who kills his mom like he can’t be “involve” when wanting to change his mother's fate.
This movie really got made and left theaters in a flash. I guess you could say you cant always rely on nostalgia. I remember this was featured at the super bowl
bruh it flopped HARD 200-220 million budget right? it made 267 MILLON.
(this shit even flopped like trash, is there anything this shit movie can’t do?)
We need a new actor for flash.
Ezra is finished.
@@nehemiahpouncey3607 Agreed, I’d have someone who nailed the flash character
My sister tried to stay awake during the first action scene of the movie. Though falling asleep around Erza Miller is a bad omen.
Remember guys, the director said the CGI was supposed to be terrible, so that makes it ok.
Remember a director saying there movie sucks IMMEDIATELY makes it a misunderstood masterpiece
And you can't hurt his feelings if he's in on the joke!
If it was Spy Kids or Sharkboy, it makes sense.
The director. 😢😢😢You can’t hurt my feelings if I’m in on the joke😢😢😢
Remember when Andy Muschietti said the CGI was supposed to look bad 💀💀💀
“We made the CGI bad on purpose, as a joke”
This guy directed the IT duology mind you 💀💀
Yeah and he said it was supposed to look like that because it was “Barry’s POV”
bro just because Barry has bad eyesight don’t mean we do the fuck 💀💀💀
TRANSLATION: The VFX artists were crunched and couldn’t get the project done in time
their explaination literally can be summed up with "it's not a bug, it's a feature"
My favorite streamer desciribed the cameos in this movie as "a parade of corpses". The best part is that people thought he was talking about how bad the CGI is rather than the way the movie practically practices necromancy in its blatant attempts at nostalgia bait.
i'd still hate it even if the CGI looked near perfect. the fact they used fake likenesses of multiple dead actors (George Reeves in particular) just for a cheap key-jiggling nostalgiabait scene is absolutely unethical. this is the one movie that i'm happy failed at the box office.
@@A-Ner2 Oh yeah, I'm not saying it would be fine if the CGI were good. It's royally f*cked up, and from what I've heard, I don't think WB even paid the estates of the deceased actors to use their likenesses or bothered checking if any of them were still alive. Because one of the deep fakes they used (I think from an old live action Flash show) is not only still alive, but he only found out his likeness was used when other people asked him about the movie on social media. Seriously, this movie was a mistake on virtually every level imaginable. And if THIS is what they went ahead with, I can only imagine how much worse that cancelled Batgirl movie must have been.
Adding insult to injury, apparently Nic Cage recorded a really emotional performance of seeing his home reality falling apart, but the only thing that made the final cut was him fighting the giant spider
Ezra Miller might as well be a baby eater at this point
Ezra Miller is truly one of the all-time actors.
If that got revealed I wouldn't be surprised. You could tell me that they have a wine cellar full of bones from recreating Cask of Amontillado several times over for their own sick pleasure and I'd be like "Yeah that tracks."
And WB would still claim all of this isn't true because they simply can't aknowledge Miller should have been replaced. Or at least they would if there was a chance for a The Flash 2 - so sad thats not going to happen.
It is Hollywood after all.
I wouldn’t be surprised if he did.
Last year, Ezra Miller said he was 29, but now he says his 30, which is it Flash, get your story straight!
And NOW he's allegedly 32. Can you believe it!? What's he gonna say next, that he's 33!? Sheesh... get a loud of this guy!
I really hate that they didn’t introduce reverse-flash in this, since he played a big role in both mocking and confirming that Barry was the one that created this doomed universe but sadly they didn’t do that.🐱
What are you talking about? Reverse Flash appears in this movie twice! They even had him do villainous things irl like choking women or terrorizing Hawaii as a clever PR campaign
They really made an adaptation of Flashpoint but forgot to include the main antagonist of Flashpoint who is also potentially Barry’s greatest archnemesis. I mean, for fuck’s sake, even the CW got that part right.
From what i heard reverse flash was in the movie. Director confirmed (i heard this from someone else so grain of salt) that reverse flash is the man that killed barry’s mom yet never bother to include any scenes hinting towards that after the fact.
They clearly didn’t know what to do with the film.
Its a bit funny the creator confirm the reverse flash was the one who killed barry's mom even tho he was never shown and everyone obvious knows this
@@sonianevermind7258 also the fact that the movie doesn't even bother trying to solve who killed barry's mom.
You know, apparently Supergirl’s characterisation in this is actually closer to the comics. In a few of the comics, she’s apparently a really aggravated and isolated person who isn’t a huge fan of humans. She apparently never even made a secret identity for herself for years, and it probably took a bunch of encouragement from Clark to do it. In a lot of more recent things, though, she’s just seen as this super optimistic female Superman.
Not saying this makes the movie great, as comic accuracy doesn’t automatically mean good, but it’s still fun to point out.
I agree, and also Sasha was great, it's just a shame they wasted her and her Supergirl ( which they could've developed into liking humans ) if she wasn't a one time thing, it's a shame she had to be in this movie.
Especially after knowing that Supergirl was her idol and that she felt honored to play her and she hoped that Henry Cavill liked her as Supergirl, and I believe he even gave his blessings and good luck 😭 She was so passionate about this and they ruined it by having her in this movie 😭
@@Marukanitel I hope this colossal failure of a film doesn't ruin her acting career. She's a MUCH better performer than Ezra is by several miles
So that means that Supergirl is waifu.
And I will even give MAWS so much credit for exemplifying this aspect of hers, making her at first curious and astonished yet annoyed and weirded out by human customs at the same time.
She was tough at first, especially with humanity, but Superman and especially Jimmy eventually helped out in making her see the good of it all and helped her care for humanity.
I just need to know how critics saw this movie and said, yep this is the greatest comic book movie ever made, like did we even see the same movie?
People overhyped the shit out of this movie for no reason
@@aaaaagh-thegoat I think people were just payed, the reviews were suspiciously identical and I don't think a single one brought up negatives outside of 1 I remember saying "Ezra made few mistakes"
this is the one time where i'm unironically convinced that people were paid to call this the best superhero movie ever made
@leguac4187 reviewers and media companies like IGN need to praise these movies or atleast give them decent reviews to maintain good relationships with studios and continue getting early access to popular media through review copies and early screenings, it's a really roundabout way of paying them for good reviews.
Did anyone really say that??? Ok, that has to be a joke or they were really payed. I can understand if someone likes the movie (i mean there are people who really think The Last Jedi is a great movie), but the "greatest" comic book movie?
But perhaps someone who only saw Supergirl, Catwoman and all the other bottom five adaptations and also never heard anything of all the other superhero-movies could say that ...
I’m really glad you added the No meme section for that part of your video, your very respectful and im glad u told the story of what happened and how fucked up it was to use cgi on someone who literally couldn’t have a say if they wanted some cameo.
I will give the movie this, though: it was pretty revolutionary for DC to make the first superhero movie with an IRL supervillain playing the lead.
Considering that Batman 1 & Returns now exist in the same continuity as the alternate earth of this movie is an actual war crime.
They don't idiot. Does this trash look like a Burton world???
A moment of silence for all the overworked vfx artists who were forced to work on this movie
Supporting their eventual strike!
I don’t love this movie but I did really like Ben Affleck’s send off scene and the “old soul” vibe he was giving.
Side note if WB wanted cameos in this movie so bad then instead of bringing back dead actors they could’ve just used people like Grant Gustin, Brandon Routh, and Henry Cavill. Why they didn’t just do that I have no idea. Even Marvel at least used actual actors for the cameos in Multiverse of Madness.
Because they're Warner Bros, that's why. Fucking greedy bastards.
Because likenesses of dead people are cheaper, probably.
That's what gets me about the Christopher Reeve cameo.
Brandon played a version of that iteration through Superman Returns. They literally coulda got him.
Also hilarious that in this movie about THE FLASH, the only real alternate Flash in this entire movie was the Jay Garrick cameo while we get four Batmen[no offense Keaton and Fleck, y'all carried it], four Superpeople, and three Ezra Millers.
My favorite part was when Flash microwaved a baby, that was pretty poggers.
Fun fact, that wasn’t in the script. They just did that because they wanted to
Y’know, i am glad that they made Supergirl similar to how she was in the comics. Her being raised on krypton and thusly feeling like an outcast and letting her anger get the best of her is her entire character. So it was horrific to see her turned into “female Superman” in the CW show. Although they definitely did make her far more bland than she is in the comics
She was the one good thing in this movie, but since her character didn't get that much attention (since we needed TWO Millers to care about), it's still not much.
@@lordmontymord8701 not just 2, but 3 millers, one of whom is completely unnecessary and an annoying addition.
yeah, especially since they have her come to earth so young. The point is that she comes to earth at around 16 years old at least, making her far more of an outcast.
Honestly a supergirl series of her landing on earth and then having to adapt to it while trying to live up the standard her cousin already set and control her emotions sounds really interesting.
@@ProjektTaku I hope you are talking about Young Miller, because Old Miller was the best thing that happened to cinema. Realizing that his "armor" was just all the Kryptonian metal stuck in his body broke me - i couldn't stop laughing for at least half a minute. Too good nobody in my screening cared about the movie or i might have gotten into trouble ...
True story, Micheal Keaton’s Batman was originally gonna be in the Batgirl movie on HBOMAX before WB cancelled the film just before it was finished.
If you ask me, they should’ve saved Michael Keaton for a Batman Beyond movie instead of this or Batgirl.
Yeah, but i'm sure there won't be a Batman Beyond with Keaton, because even if he was willing to do it WB surely blames the failure of The Flash on him too. Even if that is nonsene.
I like the part where the flash went to a vending machine and started to eat while the baby fell from hospital
What a great payoff tho the whole "burning calories"-thing - which then was never a factor ever again ...
Not only is it morally disgusting for them to still release this movie after Ezra Miller was outed as a criminal, but it's even more heinous to make a shitty cgi version of Christopher Reeve and George Reeves to sell a shitty product. This movie is a prime example of moral degeneracy in Hollywood and it needs to be cracked down on hard.
This and Batman V Superman were the only movies ever to give me motion sickness. I never get motion sick.
what scene in Batman V Superman had you feeling motion sickness? Genuine question.
The Onision Mclovin comparison had me ROLLING 💀
Same
22:34 Holy hell. Now that you've mentioned it, just when you thought the "tribute" of Christopher Reeves Superman was already disrespectful enough, the George Reeves "tribute" wasn't only problematic, it feels pretty evil. The sheer audacity of Warner Brothers thinking we will just buy anything that we recognize (even if it means using CGI of late actors for lifeless and pointless cameos) as long it will grant them the big bucks.
I know The Flash movie nor Warner Brothers as a whole aren't RUclips related, but to quote Pyrocynical: "RUclips has proven to me that you can't even die right.", it perfectly describes the movie and the company's actions.
It's fucking awful, really.
I think Pyro said the Internet as a whole, not just RUclips
Whatnhapoened to Reevea
@@PrincessMavenKittyDarkholmein short, George Reeves fell into depression for unable to get any successful job outside of being just the actor of superman which he got tired of being known as, thus shortly took his own life with a gun
@bitsylecatlover2297 Wasn't there an implication of George Reeves getting murdered rather than suicide?
I know it's still a mystery to this day, but I don't think committing suicide by the first bullet missing, and a second bullet in the head is possible. Or maybe that's just me.
11:36 Not only did the Flashpoint movie was better in general but it also came after a whole bunch of movies that let us know the characters thus making the changes in the alternate timeline way more interesting.
Ezra Miller took method acting so seriously that he decided to become Reverse Flash irl and sabotage his career.
It honestly amazes me that Warner Bros thought Micheal Keaton would be the megastar to revitalize the DCEU. They wanted his version of Batman to appear in this movie, Batgirl and Aquaman 2 as if to say "finally, our saving grace is here, a 70 year old man whose bored out of his mind and is only familiar if you grew up with the Tim Burton movies". This would be like if I wanted to revitalize the Fast and Furious franchise and I brought Morgan Freeman, Micheal Caine and Al Pacino on board.
Again agreed Flashpoint is a bad choice for a first Flash Movie, it’s like having Spider-Man get the Symbiote in his first movie or having Batman experiencing Knightfall in his first ever movie! Also not featuring Reverse Flash was a very stupid move when you consider that He’s the One who Killed Barry’s Mother!
The most unfortunate part about this is that James Gunn has said this is his favorite movie of the year
Not sure what you expected, It's not like Warner Bros is gonna just let him shit on the film, it's not the most honest move integrity wise, but unless he wants to throw his chances at directing future DC projects off the window he just kinda has to promote this shit they were making as he joined DC.
He hasn't had a choice. He can't give his real opinion. If he criticises it he might lose the chance to reboot the entire DCCU.
This really feels like they just wanted to assassinate Ezra Miller’s career
And you know what? Good on them, good on them.
Well if that was true they should just fire elza and blacklist elza in first place.
If that was deliberate because they couldn't outright ditch him. He's clinging on by some sinister way. Maybe he has blackmail material on some people. Then good on them. Assassinate his career if you can't outright ditch him.
@@evandaymon8303 Maybe they can't do that. He might be clinging on with some sinister methods. Maybe he has blackmail material on someone/s. The obvious option is fire and blacklist him. But if they can't. Assassinate his career instead.
Good if true
I think what hurts me most is that flashpoint the comic is the first big comic story I ever truly loved. It’s pretty much what got me into comics and seeing it butchered like this is just depressing. They swapped strange alt versions of heroes fighting each other for memba berries shrimple as that.
Same it was what developed my love for comics and D.C , I'm glad I didn't waste my money on a bastardazation of beloved comic again( the first time was BVS lol)
The lasso of truth only makes it impossible to lie, it doesn't force you to start spouting off random things
The fact that there are no memes and Dumbsville is actually pissed during the CGI cameos scene (unferstandably so).
The fact that a decade-old 1h 21m direct-to-video animated movie had both a better narrative *AND* better visuals than a recently-released 2h 24m live-action theatrical blockbuster says a hell of a lot...
The Marvel Cinematic Universe’s 10 year anniversary - Infinity War, the most ambitious crossover of 2018
The DC Extended Universe’s 10 year anniversary - “Fuck it, we’re rebooting it again with The Flash.”
I'm sorry, but infinity war was definitely not the most ambitious crossover ever lmao.
Smash, MVC, idk, the literal DC and marvel crossover comic event were and still are more ambitious
@@Dhampire1976 We’re talking about movies in this case.
@@comixproviderftw_02 even in movies, it isn't the biggest one. Average "I know marvel bro, I only watch the films" circle jerker 💀💀💀💀
@@Dhampire1976 he said of 2018
The fact that Warner Bros. tried to downplay Ezra's actions afterward is just gross
I was just laughing and smiling with the vid but then you hit me with the 22:24 sequence and I shifted from a good mood to experiencing true fear.
Felt the same way as you man.
"guys i swear the baby scene is vital to the plot"
The cgi is so good it makes Clu from Tron Legacy look ahead of its time
In fact, it's so good that the entire grid looks hyperrealistic.
What's upsetting to me is that Michael Keaton ended up returning for this movie, personally it would of been better if they made a batman beyond movie.
To be honest, I agree with you. Like at how they massacred mah boy!
I will never forget the fact that Zack snyder has decided to watch blue beetle much to the chagrin of anyone who enjoyed this movie.
Comic book movie fans when their favorite directors are normal people who support other people’s movies: 😡😡😡😡😡
I’m surprise he’s even with DC. I thought he left-
@@faccezitCroc You don’t have to still be employed by a studio to support the stuff that comes out of it
@@halfmettlealchemist8076 I guess now that you mention it.
Hollywood be Hollywood ig
@@faccezitCroc He's at Netflix now
while i had a few good moments with it like the more emotional parts, i just wanna say if you want to experience this movie's story without dealing with the dubious special effects, the story halting for a bunch of disrespectful CG cameos and... Ezra Miller, just read Flashpoint instead, I recommend it as a better way to digest this plot. it's the comic story that the movie loosely adapts and it has a full, proper start-to-end story that also acts as a lead into the New 52 era of DC Comics. it also has a lot of moments that make the comic better on its own because it doesn't tie in to a bunch of other stuff
or hell, just for the memes, watch the Flashpoint Paradox animated film instead. i just hope Sasha Calle got her checks from this
It made me sad when James Gunn promoted this dogshit because he knows he'll be punished by WB if he doesn't
I really hope The new DCEU is a complete reboot, DC did a half ass reboot before with new 52 in the comics and that shit completely stained DC's reputation
Yeah. He didn't have a choice. Hopefully he can make the reboot better.
@@HELLO_KORO lol yeah, the new 52 got especially weird later on when they killed off new 52 superman and replaced him with pre-new 52 superman and his son, only to later merge them for whatever reason. They also did something similar by having new 52 superboy replaced with pre-new 52 superboy.
Idk why they couldn't just have pre and post new 52 superman merge first instead of killing new 52 SM off, and just retcon new 52 superboy into being like the pre-new 52 superboy (just say that him being the clone of jonathan kent from a alt future was a lie and he actually was a clone of present day clark and lex luthor, and have him either adopt the jeans and black shirt or 90s leather jacket look).
The whole George Reeves CGI controversy honestly makes me thankful that Christopher Nolan decided to not CGI Heath Ledger in The Dark Knight Rises. Take notes, you corporate hacks.
2:24 "People can not like The Flash and some of their CGI; that's their right."
Bro, didn't Smith reacted negatively to He-Man fans calling him out for false advertising in his shitty He-man Revelation?
thanks dummyvillie
I first liked this on first viewing, but I will admit, on first viewing, the CGI in the film makes Black Panther look like How To Train Your Dragon, the titular lead is like every bad MCU character thrown into a blender, and thank you for making me aware of the cruel treatment of the actor who played Superman in the 50’s. This actually was the first time I’ve heard about it, and it shocked me even hearing about it, and how the cameos of two versions of Superman, played by two actors who have died, have been used in the film for nostalgia bait rather than doing anything of value in the climax scene.
I loved the part where Dumbsy say "Is dumbsy time" and started to recommend El Twittor, El Instagram and La Patreon.
So sad😢
Omg new Dumbsville video !! A great way to start the day !!!
My favorite thing about this movie is that batman has a bat electric chair just laying in his cave
If you told me this movie was a laundry money scheme, I would believe it. Because the budget definitely did not go to directing,cgi,writing... or anything related to the development of this product.
I definitely have high hopes for Aquaman 2. I just hope Amber doesn't crap the bed. Literally.
HOW MANY SUPERHERO MOVIES DO YOU THINK WE NEED, KYLE?!
Something which a film like this needs to be able to do is stand out on its own. Spiderverse can do that. Spider-Man No Way Home can (arguably) do that. But, without context from the previous source materials, The Flash feels too underdeveloped in some areas like Zod, and scenes like the dead cameos are even more distracting than they already are. I choose to keep an optimistic look on the future, but I can see how people would be concerned with the type of media (or world in general) the new generation of children are going to experience.
Fun fact: I watched this movie with a friend and he was totally confused by the Nick Cage-stuff (and George Reeves too, but at least thats more commonly known than Superman Lives). So i - who watched An Evening with Kevin Smith on DVD years ago - had to explain this to him afterwards ...
Great idea putting that in - and it's not even accurate, because John Peters didn't want Superman to fly, so they fucked up. Of course he also said - according to Smith - that he didn't want Sups to wear his suit, but since there is the famous casting photo of Cage in the costume i'll give that one a pass 😉
Wrong, Miles morales can't carry a movie just by himself, which is why they again dragged a bunch of other spiderman's from alternative dimensions all over again with Gwen also taking most of the screentime.
I think it's hilarious that even the CW Flash looks better in his 'running scenes' compared to a big budget film. lol
I didn't even know they were using AI to bring back dead actors. That's actually fucked up. Thanks for telling me not to watch this movie on twitter lol
They didn't
Honestly I have to commend Miller for their acting here, his ability to make us believe they'e attracted to consenting adults is really mindblowing
They did
@@PrincessMavenKittyDarkholme sorry, even though they're a degenerate I forgot, my bad
The baby microwave reminds me of a guy who did that in real life and yes he went to jail. The crazy part was that his wife's cousin and I were in a class together in college and he admits how messed up it was.
The woman
For reverse flash they should get a nice guy to play him bc ezra plays as the flash you know a good guy even though he’s choke slam a fan
Why watch Ezra Miller be The Flash in theaters when you can instead see him be Homelander in real life?
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@@serodio_petitseumDid I stutter?
@@yuki2320 ? why would i need you to stutter lmfao you misgenred them so i corrected you you're welcome
@@serodio_petitseum"you're welcome" LMAOOO BRO THINKS HES HELPING 💀
@@serodio_petitseumBro, I better start respecting Stalin as if he had “they/them” pronouns and forget the fact he did horrible things.
Spider-man: No Way Home is gonna be the new Shrek in the sense that it did something good (multiverse + bringing back past iterations of spiderman) to the point that other movies tried to replicate and failed at doing so, resulting in people viewing the original movie as bad because of the ripple effect it had on the industry.
Shrek is 10000000000x times better than no way home
You forgot to mention the Adam West Batman cameo. They didn’t even add the ears and it looks like “the man”.
the funny thing about the CGI is that they had 2 years to perfect it and it's the same VFX team that did ZSJL
Instead of reviving dead actors without their consent, why didn't they just animated something from one of the many DC cartoons?
Ed Boon not seeing the main issue with using cameos in The Flash makes way more sense as to why 1/3 of the roster of MK1 are characters people wanted to play as for years, but he won't let us do so.
Wait you guys actually want to play as cyrax and sektor?
Ezra Miller makes William Afton look like Jesus by comparison.
On top of the fact that William Afton is fake and that his character arc finished faster than it took for the Flash to finish his.
At least William just killed the kids Ezra will be on some EDP455 shit
@monkiking778 Yeah he really do be doing that don't he? 😆
Did you just compared a fictional villain with ambiguous purposes to that of a real life criminal? Come on...
@@kankeydong2500 Well he's not wrong, and they did it for almost similar purposes, but one that's common about both is that they wanted to become big and famous, but unfortunately something stopped them, like the Springlock suit/fake pizzeria for William Afton, or the visual proof of Ezra doing something sus/bad and the bombing of The Flash, both faced similar successes and failures, but there's one who's gonna face far worse than the sweet release of passing away that William Afton faced, one who will actually pay for what he did instead of getting trapped inside a metal suit for years on end (though if you think about it, their fates wouldn't be to far from different, like being trapped in a suit is no different than being trapped in a jail cell, only difference is that you have more room in the cell, but, then it makes you vulnerable to the elements that come with it, either way justice will be served, though in this day and age, sometimes it takes longer to prosecute someone who's famous compared to someone who isn't, just saying is all).
Bringing back dead actors for cameos is NOT ACCEPTABLE!! God, Hollywood has never been more corrupt, BECAUSE THEY ALWAYS HAVE BEEN!
This shit is like if they made a Star Wars multiverse movie and they CGIed Jake Lloyd’a Anakin Skywalker into the movie.
I still don’t understand why a director who had only done three horror movies and one horror short directed a superhero movie!!!
Well something like this can work as proven before. Marvel used indie directors you wouldn't expect to make a movie like this to good effect (at least sometimes). But if you give them a bad script and in the end force them to make the movie the way you as the producer/studio want while ignoring all their original ideas, it has to end in a disaster.
Hey give Andy a break, he had a lot of awful stuff to work with that wasn't his fault
You've got to give people a chance. How else do you get new talent.
The guy didn't have much good stuff to work with. And what he did have probabely had a lot of control from some awful producer.
Sam Raimi.
The only reason why this movie wasn't canceled is because they put way too much money into it and needed it to keep the dc movies going so they can finally get an mcu equivalent that is actually profitable so they can milk it just as much as marvel did
I want to go to the alternate timeline where Superman Lives actually happened.
The CGI is so bad if you told me its a sequel to Alpha and Omega i would believe you
Yay
Tasteless as this might sound but it only feels fitting that the repercussion for Ezra’s crimes was this movie bombing like mad
Or....hear me out, have the PoS switched with that superman actor or peter pan actor.
Would prefer either of them to an annoying little twat.
Honestly i would've like it if they did an actual accurate Flashpoint movie since that comic story has some good stuff like Bruce Waynes dad being Batman and his mom being the Joker and how their dynamic is so emotional and almost too real. Pretty much what I'm saying is if they left Ezra Miller a small part of the movie then it would be ten times better
I have a theory about this movie. That the reason why so many celebrity scumbags have gotten away with their crimes like Ezra is because we live in the Earth 33 version of the Flashpoint timeline. Some speedster went back in time to stop an assassination and they succeeded, but the time boom messed a lot of other things up
I’m so glad we were able to see Man, he deserves more recognition
stop this video made my day it had me actually giggling thanks dumbsy :)
Do you think anyone who was a fan of Batman 89 is happy with the fact he killed himself and that entire world got destroyed and terraformed?
It's easier to accept that it's a similar universe lol
Just like the villains in No Way Home, some are so inconsistent that it's easier to say they came from a universe similar of Tobey and Andrew movies
the fact that anyone even bothers to try and defend this movie is sad
like, wow, the fact that Flash was upset that a woman he saved was rushing to get out of immediate danger didn't stop to thank him. dude, the danger is still there. give her a moment to make sure her family and friends are safe first.
When CATS has better cgi than a big budget superhero movie. You know you’ve fucked up big time
And CATs wasn't even good lmao
@@unknown6470 I know right
That’s…. Wow. That’s the most embarrassing thing I’ve ever heard. Wow. DC = Dead Company.
When you think about how long this movie was in production, it couldn't have been that long between the recording for it and Justice League; principal photography was reported to have been in early 2021, so like 4 years apart. Miller wasn't this trash in Justice League. What the heck happened between 2017 and 2021 to make them like this? Did Miller's quarantine just go THAT bad???
Babe wake up, new dumbsville video
I laughed so hard when I saw batman die for nothing like that shit was so unreal it's like a shitty fever dream
Thank you dumbsville you are the reason i own deus ex game series on my steam account. Not only i play it now i learn about it thanks to you. The most intresting thing about flash movie is post credit scene due to my mothers love to aquaman.
The thing is I would love to see Nick cage as superman, but not like this
I also have to say the director tried defending the CGI 💀 saying as he quotes “It’s Barry Allen’s Perspective.” 💀
That’s just sad, just admit your CGI is Ass 💀💀
The film equivalent to “It’s not a glitch. It’s a feature.”
Which means Barry's brain cannot handle the whole superspeed thing as good as it should, so he can't render faces properly. Makes sense ... or not.
I 💀 know 💀 right 💀.
Just 💀 admit💀your💀 CGI 💀is💀bad💀(I don't think I used enough 💀 emojis)
This movie would've been... slightly better if it was Zoom/Reverse-Flash that tricked Barry into changing the time-line, so that Zoom could become the new Flash and do shenanigans.
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the only thing I like about this film is that the opening scene doesn't hide the fact it's in Glasgow and I get to go "huh I've walked down that street"
My dad watched that movie, he doesn't care about controversies as long he can enjoy the movie for what it is... so he pirated it lmao . I also wanted to watch it but only because I needed to know why did Erza Miller cosplaying as Flash put a baby in a microwave, I watched why I hold my laugh and went upstairs to reflect about the microwaves and the bad cgi
I knew this movie was going to be shit when they had two Ezra Millers. One is bad enough, who thought adding an even more annoying ezra miller was a good idea?
earliest i’ve been to a dumbsvile video
blessed day
When you order Spider-Man No Way Home from WISH
Woah, this movie is so good it may just surpass Little Cars 2-Dark Knight Rising!
In all seriousness, Justice League Animated was the SHIT when I was younger. So many cool arcs and stories to tell with unique and interesting characters. Even that weird "Men have purpose too!" women arc was enjoyable. Seeing the Justice League reduced to this is just... sad. Superheroes are so cool HOW ARE STUDIOS MAKING THEM BORING. Insane.
I know bro did not put the dark knight rises in the same tier as little cars 2 💀
@@dandywave9360 I combined the two titles to make it Little Cars 2: The Dark Knight Rises.
I left ma fuckin son at the gas station
i say this with the clip every intro now
The way the flash talks at the camera is the most movie moment in movie history
Honesty if they swapped our George Reeves Superman and Jay Garrick with...IDK, The CW variants and Grant Gustin?! I-I don't know, I'd enjoy the cameos at the end a tiny bit more.
21:04 "You're on your own, Noble. Carter out."
Ezra Miller is an even better villain than Reverse Flash.
¿Why the hell do you even say that nonsensical crap?
Thinking about it more, Spider-Man No Way Home is a *both* a blessing *and* a curse.
I say a curse because it leads to more multiverse “No Way Home wannabe” movies like The Flash as well as the unfortunate rise of necromancy and by association A.I.