I bought the Tucson Hybrid last year and couldn't have been more impressed Smooth, powerful and efficient enough, it never gave me a day of trouble. Traded it for a Vette Z06
After a crash that totaled my car and I rented a Hyundai Kona, I looked at other brands and after weeks of looking, Tucson PHEV is for me, design, comfort, power when you need it and practical cargo, I am leasing the new design when is out!
Me too! And no fog lights! Those are so old school, and people just like to run them constantly simply just to let people know they have fog lights. Look at my fog lights! 🤣🤣 I have to admit that I did that in my last vehicle, until I realized how asinine it was and the fact that nobody cared. Including myself.
@@Ricky-mo6mv Yes, and the worst is all the german cars that have the rear fog lights and they turn them on and blind you when they are ahead of you too.
Really like your reviews, nice and informative and not OTT. Only issue I have is you really should consider focusing on engine/drive train more right at the outset, and give us the deets on mileage, drive train warranties, hybrid battery warranty, etc.
Hyundai and Kia really do kill it with design. They make the neatest looking cars inside and out and are super premium. Love this new updated Tucson, love the new Kia K4 (wow) and so on. Even the upcoming Kia Carnival van is gorgeous! I would have easily went back to Kia and Hyundai (I trade in every 2-3 years on a new car) except for 1 reason. They have so many recalls and seem to have a lot of engine issues and fire risk issues. More and more pop up even on newer models. Just a little scary to me. But I must say they make the best looking vehicles with premium features, premium materials, great prices, long warranty and so on. I hope the recalls and fire risk start to go away for them.
@LetMeCook86 Yep, that's true!. Same goes for Santa Fe. 😟 The direction indicators in the back should be at the same level as the tail lights (brake lights...).
I still can’t understand why people think this is dangerous. If anyone is that close behind a vehicle that they can’t be seen, or the mirror indicators, then neither vehicle is barely moving regardless.
It’s great for short people driving short cars. We can’t discriminate against the vertically challenged. This is 2024 and there is no discrimination allowed. Remember what happened to Aunt Jemima?
I'll be interested in this vehicle once they put the rear turn signals up to a point that they are seeable by those around. Putting them down so low on the rear of the vehicle don't enhance form, function or safety.
I am not sure why Hyundai has a XRT model but not much off road use. Especially Subaru Forester may have a Hybrid model in 2 years. I think the hybrid will be a popular choice for many people.
LIke the refreshed interior--my only knock is the steering wheel needs to feel/look more 'truckish', other than that, way better than the previous interior.
Look wise ...this is amazing... especially the c pliiar where the quater panel has this X sort of design where the rear windshield and side back window matches
Putting the 12V battery in the trunk is something I appreciate because of temperature moderation. In cars where the battery is in the engine bay, my experience is that the battery dies in 6-8 years. Whereas in my car with the battery in the trunk, the battery lasted 11 years.
RUclips has some videos of people rewiring Tucson rear turn signals , making factory beltline taillights flash a turn. However, reports of dealer & Hyundai corp replied that rewiring would void vehicle warranty. Is it legal to void a whole car for a basic signal rewire?
This was looking interesting until Alex got to the driver monitor. If that's not a deletable option, then we have a deal-breaker. Side note: the T-handle shifter as an option is a different plus.
I've been considering the Tucson PHEV for a while now, but pricing is now at ~40K, which is a hefty premium and it was not eligible for any tax credits. With such pricing, I'd probably get a regular hybrid, and likely not the Tucson.
I have a 2023 Tucson Hybrid and I checked out the Tucson at the auto show as well The larger screen is a nice interior upgrade but somehow the rest of the interior feels fuller, less spacious - mainly because the large armrest console that got extended. Also not sure if I like the new shifter behind the steering wheel, close to my knees…
Will Tucson 2025 Limited have heads up display? Only Tucson 2024 PHEV used to have heads up display. But I am waiting for it to be available in Tucson Limited (non-hybrid version).
The low rise on the center console below the dash could be good for me, I need to manspread with my knees! Went looking at hybrid/plug in crossovers including Tucson, the Kias, Outlander, CX-90 and any that had a wide center console were a dealbreaker
Generally I prefer the starter battery to be up front with the engine. When you have to trickle charge your starter battery, it's just more convenient in my opinion to have the cables running to the hood rather than through a small gap from the tailgate.
There’s a positive terminal and a ground under the hood, so charging or jumping the car is about the same. Only time it’s annoying is when you want to jump another car with this, then yeah you’d have some annoying trunk rigged cables
@@davewilson7602 1. There is only a positive terminal. Ground has no terminal, but there is a ground spot to clip onto. 2. You should never try to boost with a hybrid. Their 12v batteries are too tiny as they only serve to turn on accessories, not crank an engine.
Does the new phev have a heat pump system to heat the cabin? That's one of the issues on the phev that doesn't allow it to stay in Ev mode when it's cold.
Glad it doesn’t have it. No need for a complex heat pump… when the ICE can provide more heat. It’s a PHEV not an BEV. That is coming from a person that owned a RAV4 Prime with a noisy heat pump and still didn’t heat well when below freezing.
It might have a PTC heater for the facelift, which will at least help with less start-ups of the ICE. But still can't confirm that, as I just saw it only in one place - in a dealer technical specification for European model. I can't understand why there is no full detailed info for that facelift yet, you can find much more info, much earlier for cars like Koenigsegg, Lamborghini and Ferrari...
It is because you now get five years unlimited miles on your roadside assist any time you purchase a new vehicle from hyundai. So the plan is that you dont have to change your own tire that's the sell.
I looked at this model this year - but the electronic interior scares me. Consumer Reports customers report tremendous reliablity problems with it. The Theta II engine also has problems before 100,000 miles. I know they plan to leave the Theta II engine soon if not already, but I stay away from new engine designs for at least four years from any manufacturer, not just Hyundai. Bought the ancient Mazda CX-5 instead which I know will last for 200,000 with few problems. Still own a 2013 Subaru Legacy with 145,000 on it doing well and a 2018 Buick Envision with nearly 84,000 that is fine too. Buying older tech has served me well on numerous car brands that build good cars after a few years.
@@saxmanmatt1574Anytime, have a 22 Santa Fe Callagraphy. Going back in August. If that green is available. On Limited Hybrid I would consider it. I think the color is great. Hopefully not exclusive to XRT. It shouldn’t be.
@@saxmanmatt1574 Yeah, that green looks absolutely amazing on the Tucson. I can’t seem to find any info, but it would be typical if the US didn’t get this color as an option. We always tend to get the plethora of boring colors. I currently have a 2023 Limited in Portofino Gray and it’s quite beautiful. That green is definitely me though!
I like the new updated changes but the indicator lights are a deal breaker for me so it looks like I’m getting the Kia Sportage (who by the way changed their design to eyeline level). It’s an easy fix Hyundai!
@@marksneyd1262 If someone’s eyes can only see what is at their eye level, they really shouldn’t be driving regardless and are clearly a safety hazard themselves.
Those rear blinkers tucked under the bumper is a horrible idea. WTH were they thinking? Brakes and blinkers are equally important to be seen clearly. They did a great job on the front, but the back feels like a afterthought. I might still buy this vehicle but that is a pretty dumb rear blinker placement.
I’m disappointed. They didn’t change what needed changing (turn lights in the bumper; the body creases) and they changed the things that worked well (the grill, dashboard, the shifter, the cohesive interior styling language). WTF? Hyundai design is going downhill.
This interior design is so much better than the old one idk what you knock it for. The body creases and bumper lights are intentional change so they won’t change it. Plus 7/10 people wouldn’t care because it’s exterior stuff anyways
Our 2024 Hyundai Tuscon burns a quart of oil every 2500 miles. Never again will I buy a Koran car. It's pretty. It's got a lot of bells and whistles. But they fail at the most basic level
I love the new front, however I still think they are throwing every design trick or trend on their vehicles. I am not a Hyundai or Kia hater, I have been on their side since the mid 90s. I just think that overall their cars have no flow or continuity.
I can understand how you may see a lack continuity in the Tucson exterior design. I once thought the very same. Now I lease one and all I can see now is a work of art. Love it!
I have a 2022. Love it's wing lighted grill. DO NOT like this new grill and lights. Also DO NOT like the dash or center arm rest. It hasn't been 5 years and they've changed it ALREADY??? New model ABS sounds bad. The big dual camera screen is a distraction. The steering wheel looks to be "cheapened". Rear turn signals seem lower. SMH. When something looks good; changing so soon makes people wonder why.
No spare tire or even a threaded hole to retrofit a tire-holder with all that space under there is total cost-cutting bullshit from Hyundai beancounters.
I second that. Having to buy a spare tire kit and figure out how to secure it is ridiculous and enough for me to look elsewhere. I hope more people speak their mind on this to get the manufacturer’s to move away from this trend.
Look at the Rover SD1 interior and you will laugh, I drive a pre-facelift model and think the new design even exudes less class. A kind of uniformity that no longer has its own identity, rather soulless.
So the Tucson gets a facelift. Are we all just gonna ignore that ugly amber reflector/light on the front fender? 2024 doesn’t have that. Who on the design team approved putting that zit on an otherwise nice body? Not all “facelifts” are actual improvements. Someone needs to be fired. Maybe put some black duct tape over that if I decide against the 2024 model. SMH
I don't get why Hyundai/Kia/Genesis are still working so much effort to the North America market. Just leave them buy the Toyota and Honda 😂 No competitions are needed. They will always look down on KDM whatever they tries to offer. Just only give them a corolla or Civic that's all they want. They don't mind whatever Japanese junks manipulate their engine specs for decades or what so ever lol They only cares about reliability and V8 muscle cars or something. 😂
I bought the Tucson Hybrid last year and couldn't have been more impressed
Smooth, powerful and efficient enough, it never gave me a day of trouble. Traded it for a Vette Z06
Glad you're enjoying your Tucson! -Travis
Your 1 year old vehicle is working like new? Crazy.
@@bradweinberger6907well he had a corvette which is crap from the get go 😂
@@JohnLee-db9zt You can't read, he traded the Tucson for the Z06
After a crash that totaled my car and I rented a Hyundai Kona, I looked at other brands and after weeks of looking, Tucson PHEV is for me, design, comfort, power when you need it and practical cargo, I am leasing the new design when is out!
The side profile of the Tuscon reminds me so much of a Lamborghini Urus! Overall, great improvements. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Absolutely love the lower headlights trend on CUVs. PLEASE keep it coming.
Me too! And no fog lights! Those are so old school, and people just like to run them constantly simply just to let people know they have fog lights. Look at my fog lights! 🤣🤣
I have to admit that I did that in my last vehicle, until I realized how asinine it was and the fact that nobody cared. Including myself.
@@Ricky-mo6mv Yes, and the worst is all the german cars that have the rear fog lights and they turn them on and blind you when they are ahead of you too.
@@gettcouped Fog lights =dumb. I never found they did anything in the fog regardless except for light up more fog. Haha
Really like your reviews, nice and informative and not OTT.
Only issue I have is you really should consider focusing on engine/drive train more right at the outset, and give us the deets on mileage, drive train warranties, hybrid battery warranty, etc.
Hyundai and Kia really do kill it with design. They make the neatest looking cars inside and out and are super premium. Love this new updated Tucson, love the new Kia K4 (wow) and so on. Even the upcoming Kia Carnival van is gorgeous! I would have easily went back to Kia and Hyundai (I trade in every 2-3 years on a new car) except for 1 reason. They have so many recalls and seem to have a lot of engine issues and fire risk issues. More and more pop up even on newer models. Just a little scary to me. But I must say they make the best looking vehicles with premium features, premium materials, great prices, long warranty and so on. I hope the recalls and fire risk start to go away for them.
@6:26 there's Craig (EV Pulse) & Sofyan!
There are lots of folks at the New York Auto Show! -Travis
New shifter frees up a lot of space for...even MORE gloss black plastic.
Not really; there is a new wireless charging pad for your smartphone
Soooooo much gloss black :(
Actually, this facelift has much less gloss black plastic than the old model.
Turn signals in the rear bumper is a deal breaker! Wake up Hyundai, nobody wants that!
Thank you! Even worse when it’s incandescent bulb
Not even a deal breaker lol you still have the turn indicators on the mirrors I’ve had my Tucson for 2 years and no issues
Such a huge Zonk. Why couldn't they incorporate the turn signals into the red lights and keep the reverse light below the bumper area?
@LetMeCook86
Yep, that's true!. Same goes for Santa Fe. 😟
The direction indicators in the back should be at the same level as the tail lights (brake lights...).
What? It looks like that cool Klingon weapon.
I have a 2022 Santa Fe hybrid and it’s been amazing. I’ve never had an issue.
Rear blinkers still low in the bumper
No good.
Oh no!!!!!!!!!
Yes it’s so dangerous. Kia Sportage has them at eye level so why not the Tuscon, it’s an easy fix.
I still can’t understand why people think this is dangerous. If anyone is that close behind a vehicle that they can’t be seen, or the mirror indicators, then neither vehicle is barely moving regardless.
@Ricky-mo6mv I can't understand nuclear fission so don't feel bad
It’s great for short people driving short cars. We can’t discriminate against the vertically challenged. This is 2024 and there is no discrimination allowed. Remember what happened to Aunt Jemima?
I'll be interested in this vehicle once they put the rear turn signals up to a point that they are seeable by those around. Putting them down so low on the rear of the vehicle don't enhance form, function or safety.
Hang on, people don't use their indicators, turn signals anyway 😂
Did I miss the upgraded power output figure ? What is the increased electric power ?
For the PHEV it's 268 up from 261.
I am not sure why Hyundai has a XRT model but not much off road use. Especially Subaru Forester may have a Hybrid model in 2 years.
I think the hybrid will be a popular choice for many people.
LIke the refreshed interior--my only knock is the steering wheel needs to feel/look more 'truckish', other than that, way better than the previous interior.
Why did you not mention if it’s still turbo and is the engine still 1.6. Why?
Now if the hybrid versions will be easier to find that be a plus.
Along with the updated tech and infotainment screens, the 2025 Tucson finally includes a Heads Up Display.
But no power folding mirrors, no power lumbar control for passenger seat, and turn signals too low in the rear bumper!!
Look wise ...this is amazing... especially the c pliiar where the quater panel has this X sort of design where the rear windshield and side back window matches
didn't realize they had different dash designs for hybrids. Wish they do the same to the refreshed sorento hybrids
Putting the 12V battery in the trunk is something I appreciate because of temperature moderation. In cars where the battery is in the engine bay, my experience is that the battery dies in 6-8 years. Whereas in my car with the battery in the trunk, the battery lasted 11 years.
Do you think it could have anything to do with the fact that most vehicles with rear batteries are more expensive and have better batteries?
RUclips has some videos of people rewiring Tucson rear turn signals , making factory beltline taillights flash a turn. However, reports of dealer & Hyundai corp replied that rewiring would void vehicle warranty. Is it legal to void a whole car for a basic signal rewire?
Easily the best hybrid suv out there. Well done hyundai.
Based on what? Mechanical awd and no cvt?
I think the RAV4 hybrid is better but unfortunately Toyota, unlike Hyundai, still suffers from very low inventory.
Hyundai Tucson is rated the best hybrid compact SUV by Consumer Reports. That’s pretty high praise considering the competition.
Rear reflector still on bumper
This was looking interesting until Alex got to the driver monitor.
If that's not a deletable option, then we have a deal-breaker.
Side note: the T-handle shifter as an option is a different plus.
I've been considering the Tucson PHEV for a while now, but pricing is now at ~40K, which is a hefty premium and it was not eligible for any tax credits.
With such pricing, I'd probably get a regular hybrid, and likely not the Tucson.
Could you consider leasing one?
Turn signals in the bumper a deal breaker. No thanks.
I have a 2023 Tucson Hybrid and I checked out the Tucson at the auto show as well
The larger screen is a nice interior upgrade but somehow the rest of the interior feels fuller, less spacious - mainly because the large armrest console that got extended.
Also not sure if I like the new shifter behind the steering wheel, close to my knees…
How is driving in city?
Will Tucson 2025 Limited have heads up display? Only Tucson 2024 PHEV used to have heads up display. But I am waiting for it to be available in Tucson Limited (non-hybrid version).
The low rise on the center console below the dash could be good for me, I need to manspread with my knees! Went looking at hybrid/plug in crossovers including Tucson, the Kias, Outlander, CX-90 and any that had a wide center console were a dealbreaker
Certainly a specific need that requires some seat time to sort out. -Travis
Have you tried the delicate flower “ group for recommendations???
The "H" in Morse Code??? Oh, wait, I'm thinking Braile. Nevermind.
I didn’t even know the NEW KIA K4 and the Refreshed Hyundai line was being introduced
Ta-da! -Travis
Generally I prefer the starter battery to be up front with the engine. When you have to trickle charge your starter battery, it's just more convenient in my opinion to have the cables running to the hood rather than through a small gap from the tailgate.
The battery’s charge point is still under the hood.
There’s a positive terminal and a ground under the hood, so charging or jumping the car is about the same. Only time it’s annoying is when you want to jump another car with this, then yeah you’d have some annoying trunk rigged cables
@@davewilson7602 1. There is only a positive terminal. Ground has no terminal, but there is a ground spot to clip onto.
2. You should never try to boost with a hybrid. Their 12v batteries are too tiny as they only serve to turn on accessories, not crank an engine.
Does the new phev have a heat pump system to heat the cabin? That's one of the issues on the phev that doesn't allow it to stay in Ev mode when it's cold.
Tucson Phev doesnt have it. New kona ev for example have it it
Glad it doesn’t have it. No need for a complex heat pump… when the ICE can provide more heat. It’s a PHEV not an BEV. That is coming from a person that owned a RAV4 Prime with a noisy heat pump and still didn’t heat well when below freezing.
It might have a PTC heater for the facelift, which will at least help with less start-ups of the ICE. But still can't confirm that, as I just saw it only in one place - in a dealer technical specification for European model. I can't understand why there is no full detailed info for that facelift yet, you can find much more info, much earlier for cars like Koenigsegg, Lamborghini and Ferrari...
@@grasho ICE has PTC heater only in case of Diesel. In case of HEV/PHEV - PTC heater is STD.
What color is one on video? Amazon Gray or a new gray?
I will never understand why they don't give you a spare tire.
It is because you now get five years unlimited miles on your roadside assist any time you purchase a new vehicle from hyundai. So the plan is that you dont have to change your own tire that's the sell.
I looked at this model this year - but the electronic interior scares me. Consumer Reports customers report tremendous reliablity problems with it. The Theta II engine also has problems before 100,000 miles. I know they plan to leave the Theta II engine soon if not already, but I stay away from new engine designs for at least four years from any manufacturer, not just Hyundai. Bought the ancient Mazda CX-5 instead which I know will last for 200,000 with few problems. Still own a 2013 Subaru Legacy with 145,000 on it doing well and a 2018 Buick Envision with nearly 84,000 that is fine too. Buying older tech has served me well on numerous car brands that build good cars after a few years.
Am I correct, the exterior green will not be available for USA?
I haven't heard that myself but it is possible. -Travis
The Pine Green matte not available. That metallic green on XRT should be. It’s new color. Rockwood Green.
Thank you, if that green is available, my wife will love it! Been waiting so long for green.
@@saxmanmatt1574Anytime, have a 22 Santa Fe Callagraphy. Going back in August. If that green is available. On Limited Hybrid I would consider it. I think the color is great. Hopefully not exclusive to XRT. It shouldn’t be.
@@saxmanmatt1574 Yeah, that green looks absolutely amazing on the Tucson. I can’t seem to find any info, but it would be typical if the US didn’t get this color as an option. We always tend to get the plethora of boring colors. I currently have a 2023 Limited in Portofino Gray and it’s quite beautiful. That green is definitely me though!
How much please for export ?
I would love to see those in an electric version.
Looks like no LED turn signals even on the limited? What a bummer!
Still in the lower bumper, so dangerous as car behind can’t see it.
geez actually prefer the 2022 steering wheel
Still too much glossy plastic in the interior. And I’m saying this as someone who owns two H/K vehicles.
Wish they could make this Tucson an EV car.
The front is a bit better now, but oh those tail lights are still just awful!
I like the new updated changes but the indicator lights are a deal breaker for me so it looks like I’m getting the Kia Sportage (who by the way changed their design to eyeline level). It’s an easy fix Hyundai!
@@marksneyd1262 If someone’s eyes can only see what is at their eye level, they really shouldn’t be driving regardless and are clearly a safety hazard themselves.
This is prettty nice
Wait 6 or 7 years when those screens crap out , then tell me how great it is...
Why are matte finishes require more maintenance and what type of maintenance? Thanks.
The surface isn’t protected against micro scratches… ie they show up much more intensely.
Those rear blinkers tucked under the bumper is a horrible idea. WTH were they thinking? Brakes and blinkers are equally important to be seen clearly. They did a great job on the front, but the back feels like a afterthought. I might still buy this vehicle but that is a pretty dumb rear blinker placement.
Looks better...
But it's still a strange-looking and busy design on the outside.
I’m disappointed. They didn’t change what needed changing (turn lights in the bumper; the body creases) and they changed the things that worked well (the grill, dashboard, the shifter, the cohesive interior styling language). WTF? Hyundai design is going downhill.
This interior design is so much better than the old one idk what you knock it for. The body creases and bumper lights are intentional change so they won’t change it. Plus 7/10 people wouldn’t care because it’s exterior stuff anyways
What does Hyundai have against duel exhaust ?
$
Our 2024 Hyundai Tuscon burns a quart of oil every 2500 miles. Never again will I buy a Koran car. It's pretty. It's got a lot of bells and whistles. But they fail at the most basic level
I love the new front, however I still think they are throwing every design trick or trend on their vehicles. I am not a Hyundai or Kia hater, I have been on their side since the mid 90s. I just think that overall their cars have no flow or continuity.
I can understand how you may see a lack continuity in the Tucson exterior design. I once thought the very same. Now I lease one and all I can see now is a work of art. Love it!
If only they lasted longer than a lease.
Most do, I don't think they'd still be in business otherwsie. -Travis
which hyundai you talking about
@@darkivaz-aaa1145 probably talking about the Pony.
@@swiftadventurer dude is still from the past. LOL
It’s not the same cars from the early 1990’s.
Hyundai always offers two interior colors on the Tucson, black or gray. Boring. Can they please offer a blue or white interior?
I have a 2022. Love it's wing lighted grill. DO NOT like this new grill and lights. Also DO NOT like the dash or center arm rest. It hasn't been 5 years and they've changed it ALREADY??? New model ABS sounds bad. The big dual camera screen is a distraction. The steering wheel looks to be "cheapened". Rear turn signals seem lower. SMH. When something looks good; changing so soon makes people wonder why.
Meanwhile the Hyundai Kia haters are desperately punching air trying to convince us that they’re junk products
Junk comes in all shapes and sizes
Sometimes people have to learn the hard way.
As long as you stay away from the DCT and 2.5 turbo engine they are solid vehicles.
The Korean apologists are well mannered.
So you just going to ignore the lack of immobilizers, Theta II engine, and crap DCT?
More boring drab colors.
No spare tire or even a threaded hole to retrofit a tire-holder with all that space under there is total cost-cutting bullshit from Hyundai beancounters.
In europe spare tire is newly optional for hev
I second that. Having to buy a spare tire kit and figure out how to secure it is ridiculous and enough for me to look elsewhere. I hope more people speak their mind on this to get the manufacturer’s to move away from this trend.
The new interior is not a step up - it looks cheaper
No ambient lighting, don’t want it.
😂😂
The RAV4, CRV don’t either 😂😂
@@kromahj bro, if my interior don’t look like an Asian Metropolitan at night I don’t want it.
If my interior don’t look like it’s from the movie Tron I’ll pass.
👏👏
They may produce bold designs, but there engine still extremely unreliable... Money pit
Look at the Rover SD1 interior and you will laugh, I drive a pre-facelift model and think the new design even exudes less class. A kind of uniformity that no longer has its own identity, rather soulless.
So the Tucson gets a facelift. Are we all just gonna ignore that ugly amber reflector/light on the front fender? 2024 doesn’t have that. Who on the design team approved putting that zit on an otherwise nice body? Not all “facelifts” are actual improvements. Someone needs to be fired. Maybe put some black duct tape over that if I decide against the 2024 model. SMH
Come on, we are sick of the Hyundai Kia's. They are generally garbage cars. Can you review another brand...
Yeah! Let’s see the RAV4 and CR-V so we can bore ourselves to sleep before bed!
How are they garbage?
I don't get why Hyundai/Kia/Genesis are still working so much effort to the North America market. Just leave them buy the Toyota and Honda 😂 No competitions are needed. They will always look down on KDM whatever they tries to offer. Just only give them a corolla or Civic that's all they want. They don't mind whatever Japanese junks manipulate their engine specs for decades or what so ever lol They only cares about reliability and V8 muscle cars or something. 😂
If Hyundai and Kia wasn’t selling In America you thin😢they will still be in business and not everyone want Toyota or Honda
Together Hyundai and Kia sells more cars than Honda so I don’t think it’s the same anymore.