I saw Seahorse's live at the Barrowlands in 97, they were amazing. Before they came on stage the crowd chanted "Squire! Squire! Squire! Squire!......" for ages.
I was there, the weather was appalling and it was a miracle that any band played, the stage was sinking and everything. Monitors were fucked as well as the sound, what a tune though!
@FullMontyUK You're deffo onto something here. The way Helme leaves large chunks of the song out (some of the most important parts too, second chorus especially!), the way he shakes his head and looks so frustrated at 2.23 then looks over at Squire as if to indicate he's in trouble...I know from singing myself live for years that sometimes it doesn't matter how good or powerful a singer you are, if your monitor mix is terrible and you're playing with a loud band, the only way is down
I once read about how talented Reni was musically (he was playing drums in his parents pub from about the age of 8) and that the rest of the band thought he was the most gifted musician. Of all the negatives of the Roses spliting his loss to music in general was the greatest as all the others (talented as they are) still have careers while he vanished.
Chris IS a better singer than this clip suggests, he was having a bad day, I was in the studio when they were laying down tracks for the album that never got released coz they split up (Well, Squire told them it was all over) and he has a quality voice.
Go Go John....! SOLO LIKE A BASTARD ALL NIGHT....!! remember watching This....! huh.....! BRILLIANT...!! John "Borrowed" some of the "Shapes" he throws from Jimmy Page.! way Cool.....All Good Then HaHa...!! Freaking `90s....! The BEST...!!
@FullMontyUK You're right, the outdoor factor with the wind blowing the sound all over the shop is another bugbear. It's a horrible feeling for a singer, knowing you're not able to hear the notes you're hitting and sensing that you're missing them but not knowing whether to raise or drop a semi-tone or whatever...and then you're thinking that the crowd is thinking you can't sing! I saw The Seahorses at their last gig (supporting The Verve at Slane Castle) in '98, they had more tunes by then
At the beginning of the video John plays and it reminds me the song the ocean of led zeppelin, the influence of jimmy page on the squire carrer is clear
everyone always points out Squire the giutarist, but thier drummer was class too for my money. and i know how hard they are to learn to play, tried and failded many moons ago..peace
@titheed He (StuzRoz) means the never-released second album that they were working on before they split, not Do It Yourself. Heard them play several of the songs intended for it at their last gig (Slane Castle '98, supporting The Verve)
i heard an interview with reni and mani on manchester radio talking about the coral and he was saying he had projects, it would be a waste if he doesnt come back, after all he is the best drummer ever.
Was there at this gig, and I was disappointed at the backing vocals being so out of tune they seemed to put Chris off, but having read an interview recently, it was John’s guitar sound onstage being so loud , it was putting both the vocalists off, I don’t think anyone at the time was gonna be able to rein John in- he just wanted to play.. and play loud. Cracking band though, they were brilliant at Rock City the same year. The Roses were on another level musically though, the songs, the swagger, the vibe, the ethos. Seahorses were a great Bripop band, a great rock band- but the Roses were a lifesaver and a lifestyle..
Would definitely reccomend James Hargreaves' video on the subject, he goes over the band's entire history but he mentions at one point an interview where Chris mentions how painfully loud Squire's guitar always was and that, combined with the fact he was always riffing, never playing root notes, the wind, the crowd etc. it all just becomes white noise. There was no chance even the best singer could have been able to stick to the right key or keep in time.
I was there! We listened for a bit, but was a bit like John was trying to be Jimmy Page lol.... his guitar was f ing loud and it was more like the John show.
Ecstasy at 1,50 pill. L.S.D. at a quid. Amphetamine at what... 7,50 a gram. Pot 15 for an eighth. We collectively fucked ourselves into the ground. But the music was FUCKING excellent. Good times.
GOD, look at the state of this! jesus its clear that the seahorses were pretty much a vehicle for squire's Zeppelin complex! not so much a band as one mans ego trip!
I'm a huge Squire (and Seahorses) fan, but not only did Helme's vocals let this down, but Squire was playing in the wrong key for the most explosive rundown of the solo (6.27 - 6.36)...bit of a shame really
hes the best singer ever this is a rubbish video he was in manchester the other night and was singing after i closed the pub was mint! singing songs no one has heard yet!
Davey - you should check out The Shining - Quicksilver, it's on here if you search for it. It's my best mate on drums for the Seahorses album you have and The Shining - He has a new band on the way and they freakin rock !!!
@dean87bwfc LG thinks he's John Lennon, but he's not. After watching this clip many times now the fault lies with the drummers crap vocals, very poor! Helme is a legend!
@StudioNovusatRoblox I love the tact and sensitivity to both sexual preferences and races you displayed in your post! In the meantime... if you come to America, and somehow we meet... wear body armor. Anyhoo... Squire is amazing, best guitarist of the 90's (and beyond)...
Yeah wise up. He's amazin & has a unique style. If u listen u can hear he has many influences. Those Japanese scales he played on I Wanna Be Adored are awesome. It's gotta be 1 of the best fukkin guitar intros to a song ever made. Yeah the singers not hot but u try singin through a mike with 2/3 guitars & drums full blast behind u. Maybe he had a sore throat, maybe his monitor wasnt workin right & he couldnt hear shit..who gives a fuck? Nobody's perfect. Least he's up there doing it.
I personally don't think squire pulls off the Jimmy page thing at all...pagey really played for the song and fitted with the band...the guitplaying here is pretty poor really
Squire's total got his Jimmy Page on when he breaks out the intro riff. Quality!
John Squire leaning at an obtuse angle is a delight. Everyone needs that in their lives. Fact.
If you watch the seahorse documentary you'll understand why Chris was struggling singing
Squires guitar
Yep absolutely. All becomes apparent watching this. Feel sorry for Chris.
Yep, just watched the documentary and then this, really interesting.
What Seahorse documentary?
@@HeroesZeros rise and fall of John squires seahorses
THE BEST GUITARIST IN THE WORLD Pat Dublin LOVE
I saw Seahorse's live at the Barrowlands in 97, they were amazing.
Before they came on stage the crowd chanted "Squire! Squire! Squire! Squire!......" for ages.
So did I.
How they could hear anything with John squire turned up so loud is incredible
Up to 11 son, he blew lead singers ears!
His stance when he starts the intro is fucking class.
It's gay
@@shredder9536 🤣
Jimmy Page did it first, but yes, still looks fuckin cool !
John Squire is smokin...one of the best guitarists alive.
Shame he's virtually impossible to work with.
noo
@@jacobmassey3897 and you know this how?
@@-cityinthesky99 because I read up on bands and watch videos by people who do their research smartarse 🙄
@@jacobmassey3897 people who do their research like James Haregreaves 😂😂😂
Great bass player!
Squire is a formidable and exiting Guitar Hero... an enigmatic player.
He couldn't hear himself over johns "loudness"
Possibly my favourite song of all time, what an intro!
You need to listen to a lot more music. :-)
@@Chrisamusic1 🤣
It's his/her favourite song, nothing wrong with that for fuck sake.
what an outro more like....fudge this track is just the bollocks is it not?
This song bring back some wicked memories..
Great times...
I was there, the weather was appalling and it was a miracle that any band played, the stage was sinking and everything. Monitors were fucked as well as the sound, what a tune though!
Yeah me too, my tent and everything got washed away, spent nigh on four nights hanging around the fires at the stone circle.
just seen him twice in the space of 6 days with the roses! amazing!
@FullMontyUK You're deffo onto something here. The way Helme leaves large chunks of the song out (some of the most important parts too, second chorus especially!), the way he shakes his head and looks so frustrated at 2.23 then looks over at Squire as if to indicate he's in trouble...I know from singing myself live for years that sometimes it doesn't matter how good or powerful a singer you are, if your monitor mix is terrible and you're playing with a loud band, the only way is down
i was at that gig too! still got the t shirt for a fiver outside! best gig ever, just before Christmas!
FUCKIN HELL WHAT A TUNE LOVE TO YOU Pat Dublin xxx
classic, absolute classic
I once read about how talented Reni was musically (he was playing drums in his parents pub from about the age of 8) and that the rest of the band thought he was the most gifted musician. Of all the negatives of the Roses spliting his loss to music in general was the greatest as all the others (talented as they are) still have careers while he vanished.
Squire is a monster, but let's not forget that incredible rhythm section! Guitar players always sound better with great drums and bass behind them.
I love Squire as much as anyone. But dare I say... he spoiled The Seahorses.
Do It Yourself - Probably the greatest album of the 90's, i love it...top 5 anyway
Ah yes, i was there! The highlight of Glasto 2007 for me!!
This was 1997, not 2007.
Wtf?! Love this song. Love the album. JESUS ! VOCALS!
amazing fooking love strap on Sally chased me down the ally we feared for our behind
😂😂😂😂😂
she was a rum old slaper and we always tryed to get her pants off when she called😂
Sally cinnamon had a long fall from Grace
I love that line
Heaven is a Squire solo.
This song is not to unhappy 'to play, this is a great song
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RIP Chris' hearing.
Chris IS a better singer than this clip suggests, he was having a bad day, I was in the studio when they were laying down tracks for the album that never got released coz they split up (Well, Squire told them it was all over) and he has a quality voice.
I was there! The weather was awful and the Seahorses were crap. I remember we stayed for about 10 minutes before wandering off
Indeed!
the legend that is john squire
The cameraman missed that awesome bass solo!
saw them at the mayfair in newcastle first gig i ever went to
Genius, i fuckin miss the 90's, bands like pulp and and the fun lovin' criminals.. :(:( great times lol
I was in the audience for that one.
Go Go John....! SOLO LIKE A BASTARD ALL NIGHT....!! remember watching This....! huh.....! BRILLIANT...!! John "Borrowed" some of the "Shapes" he throws from Jimmy Page.! way Cool.....All Good Then HaHa...!! Freaking `90s....! The BEST...!!
the 3rd coming. Great!
aww man.. i wish i was. :o(
Squires is a fantastic guitarist proper rock n roller he has a great tone fanatic licks
He's great, but at this point he was playing way too loud for the rest of the band and they struggled with it.
@FullMontyUK You're right, the outdoor factor with the wind blowing the sound all over the shop is another bugbear. It's a horrible feeling for a singer, knowing you're not able to hear the notes you're hitting and sensing that you're missing them but not knowing whether to raise or drop a semi-tone or whatever...and then you're thinking that the crowd is thinking you can't sing! I saw The Seahorses at their last gig (supporting The Verve at Slane Castle) in '98, they had more tunes by then
Great vocals 1:42
At the beginning of the video John plays and it reminds me the song the ocean of led zeppelin, the influence of jimmy page on the squire carrer is clear
Good band
thats true and if you think about it, that really says something about the vocals in this performance
10 year fluck sake but a legeng=d of a track classic live too YLT
better than any of todays indie
I was there......
Squires intro is fucking class
everyone always points out Squire the giutarist, but thier drummer was class too for my money. and i know how hard they are to learn to play, tried and failded many moons ago..peace
oh YES ya will. with the roses no less :-) :-)
You've got to feel bad for Chris Helme being unable to hear himself.
i was there.
i was there too, was good to see j.s. play live but i think chris couldnt keep up with it vocally, but all in all it was a good set, i wont forget it
@titheed He (StuzRoz) means the never-released second album that they were working on before they split, not Do It Yourself. Heard them play several of the songs intended for it at their last gig (Slane Castle '98, supporting The Verve)
i heard an interview with reni and mani on manchester radio talking about the coral and he was saying he had projects, it would be a waste if he doesnt come back, after all he is the best drummer ever.
This isn't as bad as I remember it being. Watch at 02:28 where he's trying to get the sound engineers to turn the monitor levels up.
Was there at this gig,
and I was disappointed at the backing vocals being so out of tune they seemed to put Chris off, but having read an interview recently, it was John’s guitar sound onstage being so loud , it was putting both the vocalists off, I don’t think anyone at the time was gonna be able to rein John in- he just wanted to play.. and play loud. Cracking band though, they were brilliant at Rock City the same year. The Roses were on another level musically though, the songs, the swagger, the vibe, the ethos. Seahorses were a great Bripop band, a great rock band- but the Roses were a lifesaver and a lifestyle..
Would definitely reccomend James Hargreaves' video on the subject, he goes over the band's entire history but he mentions at one point an interview where Chris mentions how painfully loud Squire's guitar always was and that, combined with the fact he was always riffing, never playing root notes, the wind, the crowd etc. it all just becomes white noise. There was no chance even the best singer could have been able to stick to the right key or keep in time.
@@ruubennn i'll check that out
Was this really 19 years ago?!! It feels like yesterday!
No…25yrs mate.
It is now 😂
Andy Watts was bang on the money!
Comments from 12 years ago. This must be one of the first RUclips videos uploaded. The site only launches in 2007
Craig Moore Hence the 1st class quality haha. Thanks for the comment! 👍
Squire is a god, end of
Everything except the vocals are really good here
its not the guitars that make u sound like them its how YOU play
I was there! We listened for a bit, but was a bit like John was trying to be Jimmy Page lol.... his guitar was f ing loud and it was more like the John show.
And the man chris helme, dont forget!!!
Why didn't the sound guy turn down or turn off the drummer's mic? It's clear the lead singer can't hear himself, especially in the choruses.
waha i bought this song from woolworths
1997 Glastonbury was the bollox for many reasons, only for the hard ore
And one only needs to think about it for a nanosecond
Ecstasy at 1,50 pill.
L.S.D. at a quid.
Amphetamine at what... 7,50 a gram.
Pot 15 for an eighth.
We collectively fucked ourselves into the ground.
But the music was FUCKING excellent.
Good times.
GOD, look at the state of this! jesus its clear that the seahorses were pretty much a vehicle for squire's Zeppelin complex! not so much a band as one mans ego trip!
@lilackitsune The opportunity came up again!
@TheDocfonz Your not wrong, what was the name of that other singer that was a bit hit and miss?........Ian something
I'm a huge Squire (and Seahorses) fan, but not only did Helme's vocals let this down, but Squire was playing in the wrong key for the most explosive rundown of the solo (6.27 - 6.36)...bit of a shame really
Well spotted on the solo.
@Jcahalane i was thinking Brown to be honest lol
He gigs solo in smaller venues, think he still does some seahorses stuff
yeah m8..was all about squire..the legend
lol i almost feel sorry for chris after watching this
hes the best singer ever this is a rubbish video he was in manchester the other night and was singing after i closed the pub was mint! singing songs no one has heard yet!
Look at Chris going down to the crowd, like he is the BIG star!! Ha ha, people only listened to the Seahorses for one thing, and it aint the singing!!
@lilackitsune i know....
Andy watts on drums?
Great track (recorded) bit iffy Live, bad monitor issues, flat drummer vocals, it's a shame it didn't go better but the album track is fookin ace
what happened to them ?,that solo was sound !
John Squire is back where he belongs in The Stone Roses - playing stadiums, Sydney Opera house and Madison Square Garden.
Davey - you should check out The Shining - Quicksilver, it's on here if you search for it. It's my best mate on drums for the Seahorses album you have and The Shining - He has a new band on the way and they freakin rock !!!
The singing's fucking attrocious
@dean87bwfc LG thinks he's John Lennon, but he's not.
After watching this clip many times now the fault lies with the drummers crap vocals, very poor! Helme is a legend!
@lilackitsune Its comin mate
@StudioNovusatRoblox
I love the tact and sensitivity to both sexual preferences and races you displayed in your post!
In the meantime... if you come to America, and somehow we meet... wear body armor.
Anyhoo...
Squire is amazing, best guitarist of the 90's (and beyond)...
jhon squire the best
I went to see the Smashing Pumpkins on the main stage this day instead. What a big mistake that was!
John Squire is GOD!!!!!!!!
Yeah, great isn't it?
Yeah wise up. He's amazin & has a unique style. If u listen u can hear he has many influences. Those Japanese scales he played on I Wanna Be Adored are awesome. It's gotta be 1 of the best fukkin guitar intros to a song ever made. Yeah the singers not hot but u try singin through a mike with 2/3 guitars & drums full blast behind u. Maybe he had a sore throat, maybe his monitor wasnt workin right & he couldnt hear shit..who gives a fuck? Nobody's perfect. Least he's up there doing it.
who is the singer in this video he is poor or been smoking too much before he went on stage! is it reni from the roses? he looks different...
Alright until the bridge
I personally don't think squire pulls off the Jimmy page thing at all...pagey really played for the song and fitted with the band...the guitplaying here is pretty poor really
Ouch! stick to drumming drumming man.
A great brit pop track back in the day.