Voge 300 Rally 4500 mile update (LEJOG - Dorothy didn't make it)
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- Опубликовано: 17 авг 2023
- I had a Land's End to John o'Groats group ride.
Set off on the Honda CT110 that I previously rode around the world. Sadly the bike had better ideas and seized.
Swapped out for the Voge 300 Rally, adding circa 2200 miles to the total.
Bike on loan from the importer Moto GB.
More adventures to join at:
www.dorothysspeedshop.com
Just an update on this. I was at the off road event this weekend and she ran fine. No problems. People have asked about E10/E5 fuel and whether that was the problem. Could be. I rode all the way up to Scotland on E10 as that's all you could get in the rural areas. So it had about 7 tanks worth. On the way back down the motorway I ran it on E5. It had about 3 tanks worth and was a touch lumpy off the bottom. Now with another tank of E5 it's fine. So maybe the consequence of running it on E10 is that slightly lumpy bottom end on a closed or throttle.
Hi Nathan, I sold my yamaha bt1100 bulldog due to the carbs gelling up. V twin hard to get carbs out. e10worse for small engines lots on here about lawnmowers failing. My fuel injected bike seems ok……..so far
Esso Synergy (the red pump) is marked as E5 but is completely ethanol free in the majority of the UK - they state this on their website. E5 legally means "up to 5% ethanol", and so zero ethanol is still marked as E5 in the UK. Ethanol has a lower energy density, so I tend to run this on a 2022 Vespa when doing long trips in order to maximise my range per tank.
@@volt8684I’ve been using E10 in every engine I’ve got that can run on it (which is all of them) since 2011. Zero problems. It’s easy to be scared of something different don’t use E10 as a scapegoat. The Voge oddity is that it states that E5 must be used, that’s odd but must be respected. The big Japanese makes have been built for E10 since the 1990s.
What size tank and how is the milage?
I like the looks of the Kove 300 Rally, but my G310GS has twice the service interval which I greatly appreciate. The Kove 450 Rally may be the bike I'd like to have, kitted out as an off road oriented ADV bike with the power for highway use without being wrung out as my baby GS is at those speeds. I also love the dual tanks on the Kove 450 Rally and the extended fuel range. The 2.9 gallon (11 liter) tank on my G310GS is honestly my only real complaint about the bike. Get well soon, Dorothy!
Just started following you. Love your stuff, good basic info, and interesting knowledge. Keep it up 👍
Shame Dorothy didn't make it but I have a feeling she will raise like the Phoenix and have more epic adventures ahead:) Loving the Voge but my Himalayan still has lots and lots of life left in it:)
just watched the trip t0 the prynees you did loved that one
Maybe next years LEJOG bike if the Multistrada thing doesn't happen :) Thanks again Nathan brilliant experience with great people.
Dorathy is legend, 100k + she is amazing.. Honestly Honda at it roots were so pure for motorbikes and cars... But the voge looks awesome mate....
Really enjoyed the postie bike day on Wednesday!, I’ve “reserved” one of the 93 model 110s from seven seas, so hopefully by about mid October I’ll have it
Good for you Archie. Hope you get on with it okay mate when it finally arrives. Let us know how you get on.
@@nathanthepostmanI got the bike after a while and after after getting the carb ultra sonic cleaned, new Speedo cable and oil change it, i got it going and it seems runs well!, im going to start on some green lanes when it gets a bit warmer and ive given the bike a few on road miles to make sure its happy. I’ll have to try and find a centre stand for it as the previous owner in Japan took it off for some reason, but oh well!
Hopefully one day I’ll be able to ride it down to Devon and maybe join in on a run!
Does look good. I really want to try a Kove. Hope Dorothy's back up and running soon.
Yeah keen to try one myself!
I’m nearly pushing the button on on of these, as l want to get into trail riding and have a go at the TET
They're a good bike for the trails I would say. Either this or a CRF or a Himalayan. They'd all serve you well I reckon
Hi there. Nice to meet you about a week ago. I was on a yellow wr250r with my mate on a crf250 rally just outside Rhayader. You were coming back from sweet lamb in the van with your bike . Be interesting to see how the bike keeps performing. 👍
Hey Richie. Yes indeed, good to chat about the WR. Lovely bike. Will get the Voge serviced and put some more miles on it
A video on LEJOG , via quiet roads ? *yes please*
Poor Dotty, and poor Voggy not even a wash down.....no Fray Bentos for you this evening!
Another really interesting video.
Would be interesting to hear your thoughts Voge 300 vs Royal Enfield Scram 410 ?
At £3,799 the Voge Rally is a lot of bike. TET/ACT/Stella /Sweet Lamb friendly. On my brief ride in the Alps, it proved to be easily rideable and well mannered. Without any complications.
I wouldn’t swap my Crf250L, for one. If someone wanted a Crf, I’d recommend they look at the Voge, it’s better value and a equally capable alternative to the Crf.
Now? If they did a Voge Rally 450, I might swap allegiances.
Ahhh have you heard of Kove? The 450 Rally has been born.
Sorry to hear about Dorothy. Will you upload the restauration of her?
Bit of wd after a ride always helps
Très bien 👍
Bonne moto . J’ai une 300 ds. Très beaux paysages
Stéphane en France
I’ve been thinking of a big KTM 950 Adventure but when I see the prices of these brand new it’s a bit of a no brainer. As long as there’s backup because if I buy a brand new bike I’m keeping it at least five years
Sorry to hear about Dorothy’s mishaps. Hope she is soon much better. That Voge sounds like the bee’s knees! Les
HI Nathan your not The only one who broke down last week doing the lejog.I broke down on my Himalayan 2021 .still under warranty.I found out the hard way royal enfield road side recovery isn't worth the paper it's written on .I live in south Devon .long story short bike is still at Preston being repaired .I was left on side of the road .also I've been told I've got to pay (£325) to get bike home once repaired.
what broke and why you have to pay
That's not good at all.
Fuel pump
Fuel pump went on my 21 plate 2 months ago, head bearings too. Still waiting for my bike back.
Nothing but issues from Royal Enfield. Worst part is, it's an absolute crapshoot what will fail. Broke frame/subframe, fuel pump, electrical issues, I've heard it all.
wait what they would not recover you?!?? no trucks in the area ? longest i ever waiting for recovery was like 6 hours but did not have to sleep by the road side
Do you think that hesitation in the throttle was from E10 fuel, as I remember you saying you’d been using that in Scotland?
Yeah not sure. Had considered that. I ran it on E10 most of the way up and e5 on the way back down. So e5 in it currently. I'm keen to get the service done before drawing any conclusions on the fuel usage.
Hi, what's the range and fuel tank capacity on the Voge? I cant find it anywhere! I'm considering buying one in South America for a year-long trip, and I'm wondering how suitable it is. It's that or fly my tenere, but with the chance of getting nicked and cost of shipping, I'm thinking buying a Voge may be the way forward
They're 11 litres. On the motorway I was getting about 62 mpg. On the back roads about 85mpg. Safe range on motorway about 120. Safe range off motorway about 160 miles
I'm surprised 101,000 km is the 110's limit. I know it's a small engine. Has it had a hard life? 2:18 stunning scenery. The Voge sounds a good bike, and it looks so much better than the CRF. I like the dash and the screen. Great price. Parts availability?
Excellent video. 1990 [Nick John]. Nathan, I'll drop the 1990 from now on, just sign of with Nick J, then you'll know who's commenting.
She's had a fairly hard life to be fair. Himalayas, Rockies, Alps. She's had more abuse than most small bikes. Hopefully no problems with the bottom end. Just some top end work needed. Cheers Nick.
@@nathanthepostman To be expected, then, Nathan. Tough little engines.
Interesting review. Are you still doing the A2 experience days?
I'm hoping to get them up and running again in the Autumn.
wish we had these in the states
I wonder if anyone will pick it up in the States. Odd how we get what you don't and you get stuff we can't.
@@nathanthepostman A big part of what comes to the US is what sells and what does not. I helped a friend with his first motorcycle and after a few hours on my Honda Cub, figured a 250 was a good start. He was well placed on a Honda Rebel 250 and after that, I wanted that engine. There are so few CB250 Nighthawks in the US, it took me almost 3 years to find one. I bet there's 200 Rebels for every 1 Nighthawk. The Nighthawks wouldn't sell. I wanted a CX500 Standard but, what sold here was the Custom and bought 2 of those before I found a Standard. If the Voge 300 Rally comes here, people will gut the exhaust and toss the airbox for a pod filter. There is a reason we can't have nice things.
Nathan: genuine question.. Does the vogue have better suspension than the shite Honda supplied within the CRF 250 and 350 ?
Yes, still a little soft but I've found it perfectly decent for all types of riding without need to upgrade.
I see you only have 1 spring on the side stand, there should be 2 springs, have you found the stand dropping down, mine did, found the other spring under the seat.
No I haven't to be fair. Haven't seen a second spring under the seat.
I just bought a Honda innova that’s done 250 miles in 10 years!! 😂. Will get it serviced and go for some runs locally before going further a field 🙏
Ha. Sounds like a great find! Just check your fuel tank for rust before doing any miles on it. I had chap join a LEJOG run this year on one that'd done low miles as well and had been laid up for a while. The rust in the tank blocked his injector and he had to get recovered home on the first day. Worth checking.
Thanks!! that’s good to know, it’s a bit rough but seems to be running well, will definitely give it a very thorough going over 🙏
Nathan, great videos, just picking up a used Voge in Ukraine. Can you do something on your luggage.
How are you finding standard Himalayan with the TEC Cam ?
Great vid as usual mate.
Thanks mate. Haven't ridden the Himalayan much recently to be fair. It's ok with the tec cam in, but not sure I'd bother again.
Fair enough still debating if I want to get one.
Thanks Nathan. Hope to join one of your rides at some point.
@@The_steady_motorcyclist No worries Steady. I'd probably ride it for a bit and see if you can get used to it stock.
Come to Morocco 😊
no "fanfair" from those waiting for the next invite to a mainstream bike launch and fancy hotel in S Africa or Andalucia etc , no surprise eh. A bike earning its reputation from users, Social media can be crap but also a treasure trove of usefull info. Someone who wants to buy a bike to do a 500 mile m-way run wont be choosing your channel, but someone who needs to do it as yourself to enjoy their trip to the max may do so, so its all valid info. Give the girl a little spanner time to keep the story valid. Thanks.
Any plans on testing the kove? 😁
Hoping so!
Never mind the adjustable suspension (although that would be nice) give me a fuel gauge and stop the running out of fuel anxiety😟
Sad to hear about the mishap. Is there a Dorothy rebuild video in the works?
That Voge seems like a bargain.
Yeah when winter sets in I'll get the engine out and see what's occurring. Hopefully nothing too serious!
@@nathanthepostman Hopefully something simple like barrel and rings, fingers crossed!
Any idea on fuel consumption?
i was getting about 65mpg (UK) on the motorway and between 85 and 93mpg on the back roads and mountains@@stuartosborn4785
Have you been running it on E10?
I have but it has e5 for the last five tanks.
I messaged you about joining up with you when you got to the Yorkshire area but got no reply.
Apologies Martin. Sometimes messages slip through the net if I'm on the road. Sorry about that
хороший мотоцикл, мощности бы ему немного побольше.
Your breakdown company wouldn't recover you??
Bike older than 16 years old.
Just change the bloody plug lad!!..5 mins job done😂😂😂
How many times have you killed Dorothy now ???😅
This is the first time to be honest. Never left me stranded until now.
Let No one say that you are an abuser of little Honda's then.
Good Man.
I really must get my 1972 Honda Chaly 70 rebuilt.
Dorothyyyyy nooo 🙈
stop with the stainless spokes. worst galvanic couple with aluminium rim... Have good rides :
KTM ...." pick it apart ".....really ? My response would be...."..and just how many engines are made for you (not 'by' you) in China ?? "
I'm not quite sure what point you're arguing against Clive if you wanted to elaborate