You MUST EAT CARBS! - Dr. Westman Reacts
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- “KETO is burning the wick of your LIFE.” 😨Paul Saladino is at it, AGAIN. He claims low carb diets make you age FASTER and cause cortisol (the stress hormone,) to SPIKE😵💫 How can the author of The Carnivore Code make such WILD claims?
Find out in the latest Dr. Westman reacts video
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Saladino is in the position where he surfs for hours every day, works out (obviously) at a level virtually nobody with a day job and normal life can. He burns through that extra glukose like a maniac. That is not translatable for 99% of us.
I agree 100%. He's a flip flopper and I don't listen to him period.
I eouldntvsay he burns through all that sugar. Have you seen the state of his face lately? He looks terrible. Compared to how he looked only a few years ago - and yes, he's in his 40s, but that is not old, the amount of sugar he consumes is doing him dirty and it shows.
He can also pronounce sentences with many multisyllabic medical words with aplomb so he MUST be correct.
To follow anyones diet blindly is a bad idea anyway. The amount of carbohydrates Saladino is eating would be nuts for someone having not much movement.
Don't forget all that fructose wreaking havoc on his metabolic system
I think Paul Saladino is now definitely on the wrong track, unfortunately.
what matters to me is that with keto, triglycerides went down, hdl up, ldl down and more importantly, i am not hungry every 3 hr and sometimes i do not even feel like eating. he can eat all the carbs he wants.
I will never be persuaded by people who appeal to fear over rational discernment.
All this talk about cortisol, yet he’s the one who’s always so wired up. Especially compared with Dr Westman’s calm demeanour lol
Im not sure if thats always a good thing, Thats one thing Ive noticed with Men on carnivore or low carb long term, They just seem like they have low T or something.
That’s always been his personality type. Regardless of diet.
It's true. I even suspect that that was a factor in his heart palpitations that he blames on ketosis
This guy needs to refund all the people who bought his book
agree. what about all the people who followed his diet?
Despite his reversal on the topic, his book was eye-opening for me. It wasn’t that he what he was writing was authoritative, but it was something that I had never heard before and pushed me to research further through other sources. As a vegetarian, the book made me question everything I thought I knew about health, nutrition, and metabolic function. It also gave me enough of a framework to integrate complementary research and views from other researcher physicians like Dr. Stephen Phinney, Jason Fung, and a host of other low carb high fat ketogenic proponents
Wowie Zowie. Saladino is all excited about a study of, what was it, 13 men? Not 1300 or 13000. But 13. Sounds like he has turned into a raging looney.
It has taken me over a year to feel totally comfortable with keto, but the long term mood calmness has be hugely beneficial. Certainly feel so much less stress than before keto.
Keto is not healthy long term. Tons of doctors have spoken out about the plethora of negative health effects years ago already. Scientific studies that have been in the making over the past years also start confirming this.
Search Plant Based News channel for interviews with doctors and top-tier researchers explaining how unhealthy keto is.
This is what I was thinking.
Sugar makes me so physically sick, and so mentally sick. I just find it hard to believe that my body thinks it's more stressed now than before. 🤷♀️
Lol.. This is about the most polite "you are full of shit" reaction video i've seen to date. Good on you Dr. Westman! 5 months Carnivore and i've never felt better in my life!
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Thank you Dr. Westman. I really like and appreciate your desire for truth.
There are several problems with Saladino's comments: First, I don't know that he has ever done any significant clinical practice with people with broken (or in the process of breaking) metabolisms. I could be wrong, but I have never heard him say that he has ever worked in a weight loss or other type of clinic for people with serious health issues (obviously he would have had some types of clinical experience in medical training, but that was before his carnivore life). Everything he seems to focus on is his personal experience and then develops his views around that. Secondly, I have always felt that he cherry-picks his studies, and I think Dr. Westman shows that here. Third, he lives a very active lifestyle in a tropical country. He surfs 4 hours a day and lifts weights or something crazy like that. His experience cannot be replicated in most people who would want to change their way of eating and get healthier. Finally, he is inconsistent. He talks about his experience with a mostly meat-eating tribe in Africa and how they loved it when he was with them when they found a wild beehive and its honey. And then he says because they were excited to eat it on that one occasion, that it must be good to eat that everyday. That tribe are primarily meat eaters who enjoy an occasional wild honey find, and then for him to expand that to we need to eat this everyday is inconsistent (and intellectually dishonest). I think he does the same thing with fruits. He used to talk about eating some fruits when they were seasonally available was fine, to him now living in a tropical climate and eating them everyday. How about the vast numbers of people who have traditionally lived in areas with no fruit available most of the year until the modern era? He has made personal choices of eating, lifestyle, and location and want to then justify those medically and scientifically.
Spot on with that comment I was thinking similar, where he lives and his lifestyle is not typical of most people, not even close. He also has access to prime foods, organic grass fed, ideal foods, again most people don't or can not afford.
100 % agre
@@buckjones4901agree with you
I’ve checked all these experts out, from Dr Berg on keto to Dr Baker and Chaffee on carnivore. Saladino has a big following because he’s charismatic but he’s flip flopping a lot now.
I decided to eat a high meat based keto diet. Like 90-95% keto with great results. I believe that’s what our hunter gatherer ancestors ate. 90% from the hunt 5-10 gathered food. Obese to a six pack, but of course I exercised too.
Beautifully observed. I'd just add a couple of other things. First, he isn't a woman, and there are female hormonal differences that matter. (I just mean that in his extrapolation/universalising from his N=1 he misses important stuff that is relevant to half of humanity.)
Second, he was a vegetarian before he went carnivore then took up fruit/honey, each in an "all in" way. I'm not saying "don't change your views (we have all done that), but he seems very reductively black-and-white. Many words that DO apply to the gentlemanly Dr W don't spring to mind to describe Saladino. "measured", "considerate", "modest", "careful", "reasonable", "open", "gentle" and "likeable".
Finally, his high-speed urging and babbling at length, on complex ideas is hard on the viewer. I appreciate the depth of info but frankly I don't trust him. He is too wedded to his own current but changeable viewpoint. Oh, and the supplements.
I just had a wicked, uncharitable thought. He says he has evolved. I think he is devolving into a Pokemon Primeape. 🤭
He’s just trying to justify he wants to eat carbs again .
And load up on sugar! But of course they're "healthy sugars" bc it's honey & fruit 🙄 uhuh
I think he’s just wrong. He went a year and a half in pure carnivore before eating carbs again. I don’t think he lacks the will to not eat sugar
I can totally understand his desire to justify eating sweats... I want him to try real hunter gatherer lifestyle and see how much fruits and honey he can actually afford.
I also dont think he lacks the will to not eat sugar. He should just be aware that his diet wont work for others. But that counts for EVERY diet. Thats the problem with many nutrition advisers, they think they know whats good for other people. And it that - THEY ARE WRONG!@@KevinSamuelsKid
@@miraak8523 I’m just saying I don’t know if it’s addiction or if it’s truly believing that carbs are necessary. Purely speculation and opinions
Saladino…. There’s many like him, different names…no research behind him, no real understanding of the body, obesity, T2D..on the other hand we have Dr Westman and 30years of experience in a clinical/academia background and current status.
I’m a believer of Dr Westman because his info has helped me so much, keep it up Dr Eric. 👍🙏❤️
Not only that, but I cannot find any scientific studies that Saladino has done. His analysis of these various studies is laughable. He reads only the researchers conclusions, never actually analyzes the raw data, ignores some of the statements of the researchers (like the A1c test DOES NOT pick up fructose glycation). He should stick to psychiatry and stop dispensing nutrition advice.
Thank you. When Saladino said add fruit- I did. It threw my body so far off track, I am still struggling. I am working on healing significant system damage - his advice threw me back quite a few steps.
And thats the testimony I have heard from people following Berg's keto diet.
Same here and it turns out I have SIBO and eating fruit and honey like he suggested made things for me 10 times worse and packed 20 lbs on. Back on track with keto/carnivore and feeling so much better and dropping the pounds!
When salad(ino) started adding in fruit and honey, I stopped following him.
@@WordAboveAllthey’re two very different things, have you figured out why?
he said if u eat fruit n get shlt on it means your body is weak.. if keto make u feel good then its probably only suppressing the symptoms.. the only problem of keto he said is cortisol... then u can go on keto if your cortisol is fine, carb is not bad he is right carbs only diagnose u shows u how weak u r... saladino eats 300g carbs n he has 2.4 fasting insulin and low fasting glucose... i agree with him why would carbs be bad why would something that is exposed to our body for millions of years is bad.. the problem is the poisons thats with the carbs.. it makes your mitochondria weak n u need to fix it before going high quality carb
Saladinos fault was the misbelieve That honey gehts him to workout better. You can see it in his Face that carbs took over his thoughts again. You can try it for yourself: as a lowcarby try to reintroduce oatmeal only once a week into your Life and you will end up eating chocolate for weeks, again. It is then double-hard to get back on your old behaviors. I tried That 😂
I have been eating chocolate regularly for the past month and i've no idea how it began. I just realized it recently and thought to myself 'how the f** did i get back here?'
@@colinglen4505 chocolate is high in Oxalate also has cadmium and lead....not good
Totally agree...just a piece of cake in a party makes me eat more carbs for days before I get back on track ..
I think once you started eating.fruits..or honey ..you can't stop eating..he is now fructose addict..good luck to him
Agreed! I had “Candy Week” that started as just having candy “one time.” It may or may not have been longer than a week. :/
@@519rpk Fructose destroys mitochondria - interesting to see how Saladino copes with that in a few years.
Paul looks like he has aged a lot in the last couple of years.
@@truthseeker8502Saladino went 0-100 grey hair and wrinkles, correlating to his newly added fruit and honey consumption
Agreed!!
@@davitbeliashvili2500He also went from working indoors to playing outdoors 4+ hours per day. Too much UV can be damaging also
Absolutely!
@@truthseeker8502 woah....troll much?
for me, the gym causes more cortisol movement than eating carbs. I've used the Cortisol test strips and now I train with more rest days. What makes a huge difference in me is whenever I add carbs into my day, after bread I feel slow and less agile, my bowel movement is sticky and mushy, honey excites my carb cravings and makes me thought ruminate on other sweet things and then thinking about beer and alcohol creeps back in. Fruit simply makes me put on weight, really fast.
Paul doesn't really take into account the issues the vast majority of us have had with sweet and carb laden foods and the fact most of us were metabolically far worse off than he ever was.
Paul Clownadino has lost all credability. Hes still selling his carnivore books, yet saying its not a good diet. That should tell you everything.
He is a confused puppy alright.
I learned recently that if Amazon or other book sellers have your book in stock, you can't tell them not to sell them! (Kind of makes sense, they are in the business of selling books. Also, the used books will always be for sale.) However, you can tell the publisher to not make any more books, or you could make a decision to give all royalties to a nonprofit or charity to make "amends" for writing a book on the carnivore diet---if he was that concerned about it.
His YT shorts are too long to watch.
Still selling his carnivore books is almost criminal but he's right about one thing, it's not a good or healthy diet.
Bro claims that keto is bad, but perhaps it's more about his specific carnivore version of it being unsuitable. Keto isn't one-size-fits-all; However, he's lumping them all together, which isn't a fair assessment.
Saladino lost it, wrote the carnivore book, cashed the check let people that believed him behind in confusion and than repeats the process.
I mean not for nothing but dont you remember being idk like 25. And changing your mind about things several years later? These comments are retarded to me.
A strictly carnivorous diet is often not the optimal approach to keto for most people, as it can be too extreme. The perspective of individuals like Saladino, who frequently advocate for such extreme dietary measures, can be compared to a weatherman always predicting extreme scenarios. It's important to remember that even cats, known carnivores, consume grass. Humans, in contrast, are omnivorous scavengers. Our stomach acidity is lower than that of a true carnivore, aligning more with the acidity levels found in scavengers. This is typical for omnivores, like bears, who also exhibit scavenging behavior. Therefore, a balanced keto diet that includes very low-carb plant-based foods, in addition to animal products, is more in line with our natural dietary physiology.
It's advisable to avoid consuming high-sugar fruits, as suggested by Saladino. Historically, the 'sugar bombs' we see in today's fruits didn't exist; they have been selectively bred.
@NoName-cx3gk is our stomach acid not more acidic than a lions?
@@NoName-cx3gkget your facts straight. Human have more acidic stomachs than most carnivores due to us being hypercarnivores. They don't class humans as apex predators for nothing.
I am 100% carnivore now because it's the only way to to combat my rheumatoid arthritis and high blood pressure. I'm a 67 year old male and just can't see myself going back to my old lifestyle of eating everything that taste good. My first 4 days on carnivore I lost 10 pounds and just after 2 weeks my blood pressure had drop from 150/92 to 127/82.
Bart Kay has ripped Salidino to shreds and deservingly so. Paul has lost his way. Since he’s introduced 300 to 400 grams of carbs a day to his diet he has aged dramatically. 4yrs ago he looked fantastic and younger than his yrs. Now, well, not so much. Dr. Westman is a true saint in the realm of nutrition and we all should be grateful to have his voice on our side. Thank you Dr. Westman for all you do!
He has grown a lot of grey hairs in the past a few months. Something is driving him off the right path
I am amazed he eats 300+ carbs, that is a ton of carbs, if I hit like 100 carbs in a day I feel I ate too many.
LOL, I just discovered (and saw) Bart Kay. Just what I needed to hear....facts from an absolute clinical expert. He wasn't near as nice as Dr. Westman, lol. I need to hear from the true experts because I'm new to all this, having been diagnosed a T2D at the beginning of July and now have an A1C of 5.3, great BP, lost 40 lbs. (am trying NOT to lose any more). I try to learn constantly about the correct and healthy way to the optimum metabolic health and when anyone throws out these videos, it does give someone like me pause for concern and causes confusion. One thing I have learned for sure is to never listen to any of the vegan/ plant based guys. They already "know" the answer and skew everything to get to their predetermined answer. They have NO credibility. Paul is like a butterfly, flying from one flower to the next.
I wouldnt really say he looks old or aged, he Is in his Mid 40s now, and seems to be very healthy and fit. Also one thing ive noticed when ppl are on low or no carbs and same with me when i did it when younger, was that i didnt seem to have much spark or aggression or anything. Kinda like I Had low testosterone. Once I added carbs back, I started to feel more energetic and Like I started to take steriods, but Sugar has been known to age so yeah.
@beastbombshell3589 I have had it tested. And there is actually numerous studies and from ppl showing there either free or SBGH went down. Now it could be cuz when i did carnivore, it was over 10 years ago and may not have known everything there is to do now, but after doing a gut cleanse and strict diet for 2 months, went back to eating carbs occasionally and felt better and stronger than ever
Many thanks for this. I have followed a keto/carnivore life style now for over 12 years. Never felt better, fitter and looked better, better than Paul.
Amazing testimonial. Big congrats!
Thanks for your post! I just looked up how old is Dr. Saladino and found that he’s only 46 but to me he looks older and not so healthy.
@@csillagviragizabella2495 And yet did you see how he looked when he wrote cThe Carnivore Code? Omg super hot! 😋 maybe all that sugar is aging him 😭
especially when you compare him to 3 years ago...mannn fructose hurts.
@@csillagviragizabella2495
poast physique
I do wonder if you tube health guru's feel under pressure to gradually shift their message over time because they have run out of things to say and begin to repeat themselves. Changing their view allows them to build a whole new catalogue of videos and also be a 'pioneer' and consequently the leader of a new healthy eating movement.
You can only say the same story before people stop listening I guess? I don't know, I like watching affirming diet videos when I feel like I may be doing it wrong and making a mistake.
You may be onto something there
Totally agree once people know what foods to eat which is very simple on the carnivore or keto there’s really not much else they can offer, just look at his view count over the past few years. Once people learned they stopped watching
Tom Delauer comes to mind
I’ve been doing carnivore for almost 6 years now. I remember when he first burst into the arena with his book that he hastily wrote and published. He has never stuck to a single construct in the years since and from what I hear years before that. He needs to give everyone who purchased his book a refund. I stopped listening to him long ago and pity those who still follow him. I do enjoy Bart Kay ripping him a new one every chance he gets and this video. This needs to happen as he is a danger to anyone in metabolic dire straits. He cherry picks vastly flawed studies to prove his extremely flawed n=1 ideology. In his words tens of millions of people doing low carb Keto/Ketovore/carnivore diets are wrong and he’s right.
It’s very strange that I feel better when I’m in ketosis. Surely I would feel worse if it was bad for me? Does he know there are carbs in a ketogenic diet? 20 grams does me.
Not me, but then it's probably different for someone with a bad thyroid.
I look so good, I’m feeling so peaceful, I’m thinking well, I’m energetic, I love my food, I’ve not been so healthy in 20 years. Think what you want Dr. Saladino. I’m keto for life. Edit; I’m 70 and I don’t care how long I live if I’m fat, sick, disabled, failing and constantly in and out of the medical/industrial complex. I see too much of it in my friend group.
100% agree - Keto/carnivore/fasting all the way for me.
❤ !! I feel the same way! I'm 67... just a number... got my life and health back... looking forward to at least the next 40+ years!😀
@@blaze1148Keto yes carnavore no
Is Saladino going to refund the buyers of his carnivore book? Or will he write a carb book and expect to make more sales? His rapidfire ejaculation of cherry-picked research figures and info is increasingly irritating. I no longer follow or trust him.
I prefer to follow the science, not some sunburned "influencer" who seems to have foregone the need to do appropriate and adequate reading on the subject. There are many like this on RUclips, unfortunately. It is also unfortunate that in recent times, RUclips has sought to take down channels that are fully cognisant of the latest scientific research that identifies the causes of the many health issues the general populace endures, but those discussions go against the food or pharmaceutical lobby groups that would prefer to keep people unhealthy. I'm just grateful that the likes of Dr. Westman and similar colleagues are available to enlighten us as to how biology actually works! 👍
Saladino comes off as a grifter. He started using the carnivore diet, wrote a book, became a RUclips influencer, and promoted keto/carnivore. Then suddenly threw all that away after he made a lot of money. Kinda gross.
Like all carnivore influencers 😂
I think he's more interested in growing his followers, What better way than saying "hey, you can add all off this sweet stuff back in.".
And now he has found a way to renew the click baits. It doesn't matter whether people who click are angry, bitter, sad or happy followers. Clicks and visits fill his bank account giving him more time to surf :-))
And started his own vitamin company which he pimped religiously.
@@jeovanniperez3949nearly stated Actually that's not true there's Dana Spencer shute has been carnivorous sense I don't know 1718 years, Kelly Hogan is a huge influencer that's been carnivorous for 17 years, Mykayla Peterson and Jordan Peterson, The andersons who have been carnivorous for over 20 years, those were the early carnivores that started the first main carnivore group which was a branch off from a forum by the Bear or Stanley Olsen.
Keep in mind he draws blood weekly because his iron is dangerously high.
Paul doesn't need the sugar for his exercises. He wants the sugar for emotional purposes. Just like any other sugar addict, myself included. He will selectively pick any scientific piece of paper to support his points regardless of the quality of the conclusions in these papers. The addiction weighs heavy on many of us.
"Methylglyoxal (MG) is a highly reactive α-dicarbonyl compound that is primarily generated endogenously during glycolytic pathways (glucose and fructose metabolism) in cells and exogenously due to autoxidation of sugar, degradation of lipids, and fermentation during food and drink processing." Thus sugar/carb metabolism upregulates MG not a low sugar/carb keto diet.
Surely Paul's new diet leads to high glycation which accellerates ageing how's that good ?
You've got that backwards. Foods like red meat, but also chicken, eggs and saturated animal fats significantly speed up aging.
A recent longevity study has measured this once again. It's objectively true.
As for glycation, almost all healthy plant foods (vegetables, legumes, fruit, complex carbs/starches ...) are 100s to 1000s of times lower in AGEs (advanced glycation end products) than most meats, eggs, cheeses.
Butter contains 3x more AGEs than peanut butter, 3-4x more AGEs than margerine and 16x more than avocados.
A beef steak fried without oil contains 16x more AGEs than the worst "soy burger" fried with olive oil (and over 50x worse compared to best case vegan burgers)!
Chicken is similarly bad but can be up to 2x worse with skin.
Bacon fried without oil is like 13x worse than steak.
So bacon fried without oil is 208x worse compared to the worst soy burger fried with oil.
Several cheeses are comparable to the steak in AGEs. Some types are better, some are worse.
Fried eggs are not great either, still about half as bad as the steak. Compared to toasted bagels fried eggs are over 50x higher and compared to white bread fried eggs are 90x higher in AGEs.
Heck, fried eggs are on par with the worst fatty potato chips you can find.
@@xnoreq You are mentally ill.
I'm really disliking Saladino. Any diet he proposes is an ever changing grift. All his analyses are based one a sample of one person, himself, who surfs 3h per day. lots of 'normal' carnivores and keto are calling him out now and rightfully so.
Honestly, his approach makes sense for his energy output, lifestyle, and location. Others may not find success with it who live differently. His greatest failure is calling his way “the species appropriate way” - as in, viable for all.
Wisdom
hello thankyou for writing a lovely non judgemental comment. I find some of the other comments on here to be immature and a bit witch hunty..like I said anyone can change there mind and likely should as this is part of life. Everybody's dietary requirements are different and these doctors are getting too attached to what they believe to be a 1 cap fits kind of solution. Your comment is the only one I gave a thumbs up because it was fare and didn't jump to insults or sides. luv gemxx
@@gemmaatkinson3815 You're sweet. Thank you for your kind comment!
He is a sugar addicted person trying to justify his addiction plan and simple. Thanks Dr. for your teaching!
I've heard Saladino claim that you can reverse type 2 diabetes by eating table sugar and rice. He uses fear tactics to gain notoriety. He is clearly just an attention seeker.
not true at all. he was strick carnivore before and he can continue. what a terrible assenssment.
@@1111111111202 -- He used to be carnivore, but he loves honey so much that he couldn't continue. He really is addicted to sugar.
Was he a sugar addict before carnivore? I do feel this is sugar talk
no. dont listen to this fool. he was on carnivore and is exploring like the collective are@@sunwm2003
You can see a fructose-glycation on Saladino’s face😅
And according to your comment you are a hypochondriac don’t be afraid of carbs ☠️
He has aged from all the saturated animal fat. A recent study again showed that it significantly and strongly speeds up aging.
It's objectively measurable.
Additionally, when you live off a keto diet then your body needs to produce almost all the glucose itself through a complicated and not so healthy process (it's a trade-off against starving).
What blind keto followers don't realize is that this process involves conversion to fructose phosphate first.
Yeah, every molecule of glucose that your body has to produce on a ketogenic diet is first converted to fructose phosphate.
It's one of the worst possible diets for longevity.
@@xnoreq careful you just said fructose probably gonna give these keto carnivore followers PTSD 😂
@@xnoreq Our skin cell membranes are made of 50% saturated fat. Keep avoiding saturated fat then act confused when you see your face shrivelled up and melting in the mirror like long-term "low-fat" delusional dieters.
@@xnoreq
Please share the study name that you referenced. Thanks.
I think Paul Saladino just wants to eat carbs so he's looking for an excuse to say that is healthy. He's retracting a lot of things he used to say so to say face now he's decided that it's OK to eat carbs. It is OK to eat carbs but not everybody has an opportunity to do exercise all day and go orders serving and keep up the same piece that he does some of us don't do well on carbs.
He's an adult. He can decide for himself. He wouldn't have to tell anyone what he's eating, though.
Its exactly what i think too.
It would make sense for there to be an increase in cortisol initially after starting on a very low carbohydrate diet, in order to prevent low blood sugar. This is not a bad thing! It’s a good, adaptive response.
this is a near undeniable fact that i wish more people would acknowledge. The question is not whether low carb raises cortisol. The question is whether that cortisol remains high longterm. To that i don't know, but if cortisol is raised to convert fat/protein to glucose, then what changes in longterm carb restriction that makes it no longer raise cortisol?
Longterm adrenaline/cortisol flooding can lead to downregulated/desensitized receptors, meaning when you finally go back to carbs and begin to lower that cortisol you'll get tired and foggy and inflammation will come back (cortisol is body's main anti-inflammatory) which actually maps pretty well onto the experience of people trying to come off keto ( or any of it's varients).
@@gobblestheturkey1413 people demonize cortisol so much. It’s ridiculous.
Saladboy is just off his rocker. Very hard to listen to. Just not credible. He just annoys me.
Just, thank you Dr Westman, for trying to help clear the muddy waters. I find it worrying, when these type of videos come out. Then you calmly make me feel calm again with your understanding of the studies. Keep on being calm and keto on. 😊
Dr Mercola has also stopped keto because of this cortisol issue. Supposedly your body does go into a stress mode using protein as an energy source and your cortisol goes up. Also , Adkins’s just promoted low carb, not strict ketosis.
i have been on a HFLC diet for 2 years. I have lost 90# since i started, weighing less than in high school ( im 70 years old) I added some carbs back to my diet which caused immediate weight gain. I have gone back to HFLC and will not change again.
Same here. I will never go back to any other way of eating. At 75, I feel the best I have ever felt and weigh exactly what I did in high school. I feel amazing!
What I would like to know is who has paid him off. We shall see in the end. I am a low carb advocate myself. Thank you for all your hard work Dr. Westman.
Same goes with dr mercola, when thomas Seyfried became popular with his keto as a cancee treatment videos, suddenly dr mercola changed his stance on keto diet after over 10 years on it. Coincidence? I think not.
Probably Big Honey, and Big Mango! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I had some similar issues to him, and adding in some fruit really made a big difference.
@@EmilKlingberg According to Bart Kay, most of his problems will come from being in ketosis 7/24, which our bodies are not designed to do. Yes, adding in fruit will no doubt take you out of ketosis, and so resolve your short-term issues. However, there are other, better, solutions which do NOT involve eating fruit (and honey) which is likely to give you long-term health issues from the prolonged chronic consumption of fructose.
Saladino looks stranger and stranger, like he has extremely high-blood pressure and his head is going to pop off his shoulders...He has really aged recently too...
He's been spending more and more time outdoors as he continues into the health guru rabbithole. Although that isn't inherently bad, he lives in Costa Rica and being exposed to warm sunlight for hours on end is just not an adaptable lifestyle for white skin.
Guys. Daily honey > not good...but re : Saladino looking older : he IS getting older. Also, as we get older, eating a lot of fat, we lean out and that makes you look older. Grey hair. Not a big deal. But he uses mostky personal experience ... IS a FLAW... Even so, I eat a lot like He does, 3 years straight : & now calmer, & pseudoGout and Psoriasis gone, belly flat , at age 60.
I can see who looks healthier with my own eyes. Saladino looks like he's been lost at sea for a couple of months.
I think he got threatened by the medical people by revoking his dr license or something lmao😅
Credible theory 😉
Thanks for this video, Dr. Saladino’s opinions are really confusing and I wish there was a way to succeed with more carbs. Many people are getting heart palpitations on carnivore including myself, and I do worry about cortisol. It would be great if you could explain this more. Thanks for the research surfing you do in your spare time!
Look at his face, accelerated aging.
Yeah from all the saturated animal fat. A recent longevity study once again has shown that it significantly and strongly speeds up aging. As does red meat.
It's objectively measurable.
Besides, the carnivore diet caused serious health issues for him. He probably would have diet if he had continued it for another year or two.
@@xnoreq😂Don't talk bullshit.
The face of most, almost all carnivores look good and the face of people who are eating carbs looks bad.
@@mateivancic7369 Cope harder. 😆
Denial is the first stage.
Fed up with the medical establishment. It's this simple: once reserves of body fat drop to a certain level, keto no longer makes sense -- maintaining the diet would require increased dietary fat.
Once I reach, say, a BMI of 25, I switch to low-carb. That doesn't make keto unhealthy.
Thank you Dr Westman for doing these videos! Very much appreciate you wading through the muck to help us see and understand the science clearly! You are amazing and loved hearing you speak in Tennessee this year!
I have been experimenting with reintroducing oats lately as I wanted to increase energy intake so as to increase mass in the gym (steaks cost too much for me currently {£50 a day}). All of my old hell symptoms returned. Depressed beyond belief, brain fog, digestive discomfort, vulnerable to back problems, hip pains, diabetic coma, you name it. I am glad that I ran the experiment so as to experience the hell one more time, but masaannnn. How the heck do all of the high level bodybuilders get away with it? What is it about me/us that is so badly affected by such ‘foods’?
how do u know it was just the oats. ?
Oats are a known problem carb. even well-researched vegetarians know it. Saladino, too, will tell you the same.
@@anteandrovicbecause it was the only change in diet. Alot of people go on a carnivore diet to rule out foods the body rejects. You slowly introduce foods back into your diet and see how your body responds. Obviously stop eating anything that has bad reactions
Give it time, in 2 years he will be Vegan for 4 years and then go back to Carnivore.
When is Dr Saladino going to talk about too much sun exposure?
Someone with a common sense question???? eight hours a day in the tropics will age you very fast
It might sound tin foil but it really seems someone has given him a massive cheque to change his opinions. Because even has a backwards rube farmer i instantly thought that study with 20 people over 2 weeks was a complete waste of time.
Even people who dont earn a penny with nutrition change their opinion quite often. So i dont know why people are so sure Saladino only does it for money.
@@Bhavyo it's nothing to do with changing opinion. It's the laughable level of evidence he's based the change on when he is an intelligent guy who's written a whole book on the top.
Sure, legit argument, but people are delusional sometimes. @@tom-u8k6y
@@Bhavyo because of what I stated in my comment. The evidence he's citing that changed his mind is so bad a first year college student could rip it to shreds. 20 people ?! Lol and over just 2 weeks??? I'd fail my GCSE science if I used a study this massively pointless to make an assertion. This lad is supposed to be somewhat of a expert in this field. It's the equivalent of being a mechanic and not knowing how to change your oil
Dr. West may we request to have a Friendly debate with Dr. Saladino so you verbally defend your belief with conviction that Diet without Carbs is really sustainable and really a good thing for long term.
I followed Saladino for a while and started to believe nose to tail eating was important but when he went crazy with fruit I knew that won’t work for me and he lost me on all of it. Now I mainly eat fatty cuts of meat and occasionally maybe some liver on my keto or ketovore diet and it’s still working for me at almost 4 years.
In Bart Kay's opinion, Saladino's problem started with his 'nose-to-tail' WoE. He was eating FAR too much organ meats, which would have upset his thyroid (copper toxicity) and screwed up his electrolyte balance. He then tried to compensate by adding in carbs. He was also convinced that honey was good because 'the Hadza ate it all the time'. I guess it never occurred to him that he was a guest, and maybe they were honoring him by giving him special food (as a treat) that they DIDN'T eat all of the time. Also, Saladino's analysis of studies is woefully inadequate, He should stay in his lane and stick to psychiatry. I worry for all the people who are following his poor advice.
Saladino changes his mind whenever it's time to write a new book.
$$$$$$$
I'd argue a lot of us need keto for the appetite control because otherwise it's constant waves of hunger and that is stressful itself.
Has anyone ever figured out what's wrong with you? There are hundreds of millions of people that eat a lot of healthy carbs, lots of plants (fruits, vegetables, legumes), they are not hungry all the time, they are not overweight, and they are healthy. In fact, some of them are the healthiest people on the planet.
On the other hand almost everyone that does keto or carnivore has some serious health issues, has permanently damaged their pancreas or liver, has diabetes, has constant hunger, abysmal blood lipids, high blood pressure, digestive issues, chronic inflammation etc.
I had blood work 2 weeks ago I'm doing fine. My primary doc suggested that the inflammatory response to certain foods is coming from the gut and specifically something called leaky gut. That is where the individuality is, and even within a family, one person can eat XYZ food and be ok and then another person - even their sibling- can't.
@@TallRedhead1014it might be more than a leaky gut... there might be candida or sibo cause you need some level of carbs , cutting carbs is a short term solution it's not sustainable long term. Even veggies are carbs .
So grateful to have your even-keeled, respectful, wise voice here on RUclips. There are so many loud, alarmist voices in the health arena. I return to you again and again to adjust my sails to true north.
Thank you for all you do to help us make wise choices for our health. ❤️🙏🏻❤️
Saladino talks like he is on speed.
My body hates carbs. I avoid them completely.
Now.. i understand where everyone is coming from but i really do feel this is very different for every person.. i tried carnivore and high fat for months and it did really well at the beginning but i under ate alot and started wasting away muscle mass while working out. I genuinely wasnt hungry.. so i did eventually add berries, honey and some fruit and it seems to have really worked for me personally. I wish i could do full blown carnivore but my body just doesnt cope well. I wish everyone a safe journey on their keto, carnivore and animal based diets
Fair comment.
It’s possible that you were under eating protein as you were focusing more on the higher fat version of carnivore. Even the O.G “regular” carnivore diet at 60/40 - 70/30 (fat/protein ratio) is considered a “high fat diet” in comparison to the SAD of low fat/high carbs(sugar) diet. I know that for most people, especially women with a history of protein deficiency, initially the high fat carnivore is great, but then I think that moving into a higher protein basic carnivore may be better long term. Of course there may be times where more fat is better, such as continued high stress situations (prolonged illness, death of a loved one, long working hours, etc) even seasonal changes, such as going from Summer to Fall/Winter, basically for short periods of adjustment. And of course, everyone has to take their physical activity levels into consideration as well 😊
Understand, with me I do get heart palpitations after so many days without oatmeal or something, but I am low carb less than 70 a day usually and that seems to work good. My last blood work was that of someone on keto or carnivore, and I am sure I fall into ketosis often, I also do not eat at least 12 to 14 hours each day.
Same here… I do extremely well on the Mediterranean diet. I wish I could do carnivore for life, but it’s not for me. I did it for 2 years.
This is really puzzling because, had you said you'd been on keto and it didn't work, there would be many possible reasons; on carnivore... It's a species-specific and species-appropriate framework (thnx, Prof Bart!); a fundamental (but very rare, thankfully) problem would be having histamine issues. You wouldn't have lasted for months, though. Another possible reason could be not enough protein (you say you wasted away muscle mass). If there had been some health issues, carbs wouldn't have fixed it anyway. Ironically, couch potatoes are lucky to be able to keto-adapt much faster, whereas athletes take longer - maybe you rushed through things, not giving your body enough time to transition?
Sure, I would love to spend time on a beach, but I live in a land locked state. His arguments seem to be pretty convoluted. He is just trying to find arguments to support his food choices. I like your evidence based approach so much better.
I think he’s using his personal experiences and making connections that aren’t factual. I am 7 years into low carb/Keto and plan on staying right where I’m at. I’ve lost close to 50lbs and been able to keep it off by just watching my carbs daily. I don’t exercise regularly, but I’m going to start doing low impact cardio and calisthenics. I’ve had to introduce a Magnesium Glycinate supplement for leg and toe cramps, but other than that I feel great. Thanks Dr. Westman, I find you to be a very reliable source on low carb and I’ve referred friends and family to your videos.
Excellent analysis, as always.
Paul is a surfer he spends half his day surfing. I’d listen to westman any day over paul
Cortisol 🤔, I suffer less stress on keto. Changing from carb to keto will cause changes possibly stress but once body realises the diet is good, body settles down. Better hormone balance/production. The carb guy in video looks ill, the inflammation will catch up with him.
Dang he use to look better eating only meat
back in the cavemen days the bread maker would tell the meat eaters that dinosaurs are bad for them
Bart Kay now calls him Fruity Boy😅.
Bart Kay looks worse and is bold atleast he doesn’t need stem cells 😂
I actually have experience with keto vs Paul Saladino diet. I had good results with keto. A year of eating like Paul (a banana,an apple and some honey every day)has left me fat, tired and old. So im going back to keto.
Been carnivore for a year. Saved my life. Zero sugar, zero carbs, zero cravings, zero supplements, zero and I mean zero veggies! Down 115 lbs and weigh the same I did when I was 18 back in the late 1990s fresh outta basic training to be a tanker in the army. Too many health improvements to list. Carnivore for life!
For me adding fruit helped a lot with energy for exercise.
Paul Saladino had problems on the carnivore diet, but the theory of many other carnivore influencers is it's because he ate too much liver.
Copper toxicity from too much liver. Screws up the adrenal glands, leading to a host of symptoms (most of which he had). But you can't stop the liver supplement consumption, or risk losing your channel's major sponsor!
Aha.there we have it. Cheers for that info
I just carb cycle, 2 weeks of low carb carnivore and one day of super high carbs. Im pleased with how I feel and its what works for me. Love carnivore and low carb
Honestly Eric looks lot healthier than saladino in this video
Joannidis 2005, why most published research findings are false.
1. Ignore the finding
2. Study the study
3. Find all the errors, misinterpretations and biases.
4. Look at the actual numbers, not only principals. Numbers do matter.
5. Formulate your own finding carefully and observe the range of validity.
I began carnivore for health reasons, not weight loss. I felt calmer but lousy, so added fruit. I slept better and felt better and rarely have palpitations now. I think either diet is an improvement and the no carb diet is for people with weight issues or possibly several other health problems. Weight is not an issue for me so the addition of fruit makes me feel like I am thriving. I have no problems sticking to this diet and I do not miss the vegetables. Personally I don't feel I could stick to straight carnivore and I would miss fruit. If I had been overweight and found I could keep the weight off with carnivore or keto I would probably be happy with it.
I think there is room for both types of diets.
Smart analysis for your own needs!🤔😉😇
ah 4 weeks is not enough for sure to adapt! agree :)
Salidino admitted he wanted to be keto but loves fruit and honey and lives in South America where both are fresh year round. His high activity lifestyle insulate him from fat storage of the unburned carbs because he said he surfs 3+ hours a day. He said this in a video conversation with Dr Ken Berry.
Doesn't protect him from glycative damage from all of that fructose tho, Look at how his face has aged in less that four years,
@@masterchiefburgess aging skin could be from living on or near the equator getting more sunlight daily. Could be stress related. Also possibly genetics, some people get old fast, while others can look in their mid or late thirties when they hit 60
For someone so concerned about aging early, he doesn't seem to be doing a good job at staying young. Most of his day is just having fun surfing. He doesn't have a stressful job or a life. Since his diet is so anti-aging, makes you wonder why it isn't working for someone living such a low demand life.
He's letting UVA rays destroy his skin because "sunscreen bad, sun good, leather skin here I come" and maximizing glycation with his fructose mania.
Your youtube button is not hanging straight!
Ok, so carnivore triggers your OCD? 😅
@@spindelnett6315 hahahahahah
Dr Westman, what are your thoughts on the claim low thyroid patients need carbs to keep their thyroid from getting worse?
Listen to Dr. Elizabeth Bright, she talks a lot about why fat is important for thyroid.
Having dietary _internet influencers_ do a 180 degree turn like this always makes me suspicious of somebody pulling the strings behind the scenes.
“Pulling the strings behind the scenes”? By whom? BIG FRUIT?
@@brianomoli4 ....the food [and medical] industry duh.
@@brianomoli4Cereal brands and agriculture, in general, are mega-billion dollar enterprises. A significant portion of the global economy is agriculture. Make no mistake, the Powers That Be want you eating bread (historically, bread is what peasants have always eaten a majority of whilst meat was the main calorie of nobility).
Whether or not Saladino has been scared straight (my first thought flits to that South Park episode on internet influencers; check it out if you haven't seen it), it is quite clear he has done a deliberate 180° from what he was preaching on the Joe Rogan Experience. He is, at the very least, as the Bible puts it, a double-minded man.
You know Dr. Westman, you might not possess the same level of skill in attracting an audience like Paul Saladino for example. He has over 500k loyal subscribers that he gained through his great advice to eat more meat and ditch the vegetables. That was great advice. But unfortunately, people trusted him so much that if he says something is bad, or changed his mind about something, all will follow blindly, let alone him referencing "studies". I'm one of the people who started strict carnivore and lost 40 pounds in 2 months, healed all my inflammation and other health issues and I felt great. Then I saw Paul's video about incorporating fruit and honey in your diet so I started making strawberry, heavy whipping cream, yogurt and honey shakes. My weight-loss stalled and my energy levels at the gym stalled as well, and if this was the case with me, It would be safe to say that hundreds or thousands of others have gone the same rout as I have.
Your character is more chill and balanced. You're intelligent but you don't speak with the same confidence level and hype as him, but you're more accurate than him. obviously!!! The sad thing is that people like to get hyped up. He speaks with passion and makes you feel that he possesses the absolute truth. You on the other hand, because you're more intelligent, in my opinion, lay down the facts but seldom claim you have absolute truth or knowledge, you do, but seldom.
Smart people are usually more humble. But people like to follow those who seem more confident about the bullshit they're talking about 😂
I already watched a few of your interviews in the past few days and I'm intrigued by your great deal of knowledge in that area, and I'm now a loyal subscriber. Thanks for opening our eyes and helping us filter information the proper way.
Babies in the womb and after birth while nursed by mom are in Ketosis. It is a natural state and we thrive in it.
No, we don't. That's a fallacious argument.
Ketosis is engaged when the body is starving. The brain uses ketone bodies when you're starved of oxygen.
This causes more oxidative stress and produces toxic byproducts compared to a normal (balanced diet with carbs) metabolism. It's not healthy. It's a tradeoff: a bit of extra damage is still better than starving.
To your argument about babies: breast milk contains like 40% carbs, 10% protein and the rest is fat. Babies are not in a mild* ketosis because of the diet but because their metabolism is adjusting to receiving food through their mouth.
*) It is estimated that only about 25% of a baby's energy requirements are met by ketone bodies, hence only "mild" ketosis.
Carbs play a very important role in a baby's normal development. Babies are not on a ketogenic diet.
@@xnoreq In all my study I have never seen your belief. I have only seen what I related. I will search more but doubt I will find it. All evidence shows how damaging the modern dependence on carbs has become and how much better the health of a child that nurses and avoids the consumption of sugars. I will study further.
@@matthewbeck5680 BELIEF? Are you kidding me?
I explained to you what are verifiable FACTS. That has nothing to do with belief.
All you got is false belief.
Look at the healthiest and longest living populations on the planet. They all eat a lot of vegetables, complex carbs, legumes, fruits and avoid red meat and saturated animal fats.
Study after study has shown how damaging those foods are to health and longevity.
How do you know someone's a keto/vegan/carnivore? they don't shut up about it
My problem with keto was to much fat , not enough protein. I swapped and it’s working better.
You're not producing kiton anymore than you just eating like anyone ells.
It's best to limit your fat to around 75 grams or less when trying to lose fat quick on keto. Once you get to your ideal weight add more fat to your diet to maintain.
That video from Saladino makes me question who is buttering his bread, I suspect the carbs good crowd are bribing him to change his views, ie good old money
Paul Saladino must have been paid by someone to change his previous opinions on the carnivore diet!
Book sales dropped. And maybe he didn’t want to return to work!
Saladino looks terrible. That being said, I'm OK with not eating carbs. I'll stick to that.
I been following Dr. Saladino for 3 years and my instincts said, he as internet influencer he got nuts for promoting carnivore diet, but not anymore I guess
I remember when follow Dr. Saladino channel he is very convincing Ketodiet, then saw him went into meat eating carnivore diet then organs meat eater, promoting how good is organs meat then recently he promoting eating lot of fruits, then he start to fight against keto and or carnivore diet by promoting the limitation and talking bunch of keto disadvantages, seldom for him to advocate the “GOOD points” about high carbs diet!!
If he can be so wrong over what he been promoting for 3+ years the percentage of him to get very wrong this time is very very prominent.
@@spchua512he has reached his intellectuals limit. It’s all about popularity and clicks now.
Saladin got his feelings hurt on TV and now sells vegetarian based supplements. He’s living his life he never could younger and thinks he’s found Nirvana but he’s in a temporary health peak before the abyss. I know, I’ve been there.
I've been ~only 6m on keto, significantly lowered carbs intake (especially processed ones) and I've been doing much better, even my resting heart rate dropped down, also being calmer...I personally stick to what works for me and improved the quality of my life. Thank you Drs for arguing, science is very complex, our bodies even more
westman is 100% right saladino flip-flops continuously confusing his own followers. Our family is keto and we feel healthy, strong, in shape, and in good mood. keto diet or carnivore diet is the way to go.
The fact he doesn’t represent organizations is a good thing in my mind and most studies are junk. That said, our bodies react differently to different diets. I was keto for a couple years and transitioned into carnivore 6 months ago. My body feels so much better and is healing.
in the past he's shown summarized tables in studies that claim insignificance while saying they have xyz outcome. he can't interpret research at all.
After 6 months of keto and dropping to a great weight for me, i came across your book end your carb confusion and have settled into a reasonable lower carb lifestyle for me that i can sustain….activity levels, lifestyle all play into whether i manage my health and this is a sound approach for me …everyone is different.
What they never tell you is that most weight loss on keto is from losing lean body mass, not from losing fat.
And almost all body fat comes from dietary fat. Studies have also shown that body fat loss actually slows down on a ketogenic diet, because when you eat a lot of fat the body will use that instead, even if your insulin levels are kept low (which is also unhealthy btw).
Keto is not a sustainable diet. Some people notice the negative health effects already after a few months, others struggle for years and end up at a GP's office with permanent damage.
I felt sluggish and sick on keto. I added back fruits, potatoes and occasionally white rice into my diet and feel better, and still lose weight. On keto I tracked my carbs, protein and fat. It did open my eyes to the high calorie intake many carbs so I only eat one higher carb item a day. Most keto dieters try to imitate the standard American diet anyway, but use fake chemical sweeteners and almond flour that has its own long term use issues.
@@xnoreq show me one study that shows keto makes you lose lean body mass or muscle
that is absolute BS .
and almost all body fat comes from dietary fat ??? are you nuts
no that could not be farther from the truth its excess carbs that gets stored in fat
you literally do not understand even in the slightest how the body works .
I was just thinking about Dr. Saladino, and how he's starting to look a little manic.