Also, I saw that Big Band has a Drum section, and recommendation for physical modelling in drums? Sorry for all of the questions... I have a LOT to learn. And, I appreciate everyone's time and patience.
The only physical modelling drumset I know of is IK Multimedias MODO Drums. Pretty cool - Cymbals are samples though, and I'm not sure if they work well for jazz. The Drumsets in Project SAM Swing! and Swing More! are pretty great, that's the ones we used in our live demonstrations.
I would like to know if you all are using any midi expression devices like the TEC breath controller or Roli or Touché Expressive E? Just curious. The expressive nature of these videos are pretty amazing.
Yes, Peter and I (Steffen) both use TEControl BBC2 when we perform. Breath for dynamics, bite for vibrato depth feels very intuitive. It really changed the way I perform virtual instruments in my work as composer, highly recommended!
Will divisimate be available as a stand-alone app to run on iPad rather than just a remote control option? I dont use a laptop for Camelot pro, just iPad so a stand alone version would be fantastic! Any plans?
I've got a question: I don't understand how f.e. the swam-solo-violins sound so good together, is the midi-data (vibrato, expression etc) randomized (so that it's different on every solo-instrument) through divisimate or is that done with the template in cubase? Kind regards, Jona
There is actually no randomization to speak of between the different instruments within a section (though there's humanization per section from Divisimate). The ensemble sound is achieved by using different instrument bodies and different parameters (bow position, bow pressure, vibrato speed) throughout SWAM on each String instrument, and then having individual placement with EAReverb 2 in different positions. So every instrument has it's own sound characteristics, and individual early reflections. It's noteworthy that there are some gentle random elements built into SWAM-S that can be cranked up as well, particularly related to vibrato and attacks. Even if you don't have Divisimate, if you got SWAM and EAReverb 2, feel free to download our template project to see what exactly we did there!
To run the full SWAM orchestral template at 512 samples (including the brass) we mostly use a system with a 2,3 GHz 8-Core i9 and 32 GB of RAM. That's a lot, but by increasing the buffer or scaling down the template here and there you can run it on less powerful systems as well. It is mainly very heavy on CPU, since there are so many modeled instruments.
@@julienpainot8862 Yes, we did some changes to the instrument instruments, mainly to the reverb mix, instrument bodies, transpositions and levels, but also some more detailed things (turned off vibrato for clarinets, as they usually play senza vibrato in orchestral music). If you have the most recent SWAM versions installed, those settings should load up with the templates.
Thanks. Also, when you play the strings in the video, do you play them with really high velocities? Because, when I load the same setup, I hear a lot of glissando and portando effects when I play with low/mid velocities. Is it the way we should use the Swam strings? By playing with strong velocities?
Yes, on the lowest velocities, the SWAM Strings perform a glissando, or portamento. On the higher velocities, both strings and woodwinds get a little staccato-like attack. So the sweet spot for "normal" playing is the middle velocity range. These three playing styles are very useful for the expressivity of the instruments, once you get used to it. For example I deliberately use the portamento in the lower voice around 08:32
It is not officially supported, but it does seem to run okay in Rosetta on our machines, though we have not tested that extensively yet. It does not look like there is a native version on the horizon, unfortunately.
@@Nextmidi Thanks. I don't like running Rosetta if I don't have to. Are there any plans to map a different reverb which will run natively? I'm looking at Virtual Sound Stage, for instance, and am checking to see if they run natively. It's the placement mapping which I'm interested in.
Audio Modeling does not have a piano, their focus has been on string and wind instruments so far. In some of our demo videos we used the Garritan CFX Concert Grand, which is a sampled piano. There are modeled offerings on the market though - check out PianoTeq.
@@sekritskworl-sekrit_studios There's no modeled option that we know of, but tons of good sampled options. Spitfire Symphonic Percussion, NI Symphony Series Percussion, Cineperc, Berlin Percussion... there are a lot of good offerings out there. More a matter of taste and preference of room sound. - Steffen
With the SWAM Templates, you can't split a string section, because technically it only consists of three violins per section plus a ensemble sample library. The template is just not built for that. If you have a library or a setup that is able to divide the section automatically when it receives multiple notes (like LASS, Modern Scoring Strings, Symphony Series Strings or Afflatus) you can use the port properties to have two rows in the matrix represent the same port. For example if Violins 1 are Port 28, you can click on the number of Port 27 and change it to 28 as well. Now the routings of these two rows are both sent to Port 28. Now route the same voice to both and transpose one of them an octave up. It's a convoluted solution - if you have samples (or individual instrument setups) for different divisi sections you can set up your template with this in mind. Right now we're working on improvements to the fill voices mode to improve the workflow with individual divisi sections and auto-divisi libraries.
@@ChristopheTornieri Depends on the specific situation. You can pull up a Low Range and only route it to the ports that you want to get Keyswitches in that range. You could also just apply a transposer to the instrument that has sounding pitches in an area where you have keyswitches in other instruments and have it sound an octave higher/lower than played to keep out of that key range. If you want to do neither of these things you can usually apply MIDI FX and Filters in the DAW to block certain keyranges or disable keyswitches in the instrument. But long story short - no, there's no function devoted to just this, and I do agree that it would have its uses. Will bring this to discussion.
@@Nextmidi Issues can arise when you actually transpose one octave higher or lower then you can end up in a situation where you actually send keyswitches .
This works by splitting the voicing into individual chord voices and transposing the middle voice up an octave and giving it to the upper player in a section. This is very easy to build in Divisimate. Have a look at this video about the transposer plugin: ruclips.net/video/jHUci4o9n0s/видео.htmlsi=FqLH3cr5MHfoq9tQ
One more thing @08:32.. Are those all SWAM strings? If so, That section is just so... Dope!!! I can't recall any other demo of SWAM sounding like that in an orchestral arrangement like this.
Like earlier in the video, this is a mixture of SWAM Strings and Cinematic Strings 2. The SWAM Strings are providing a lot of the expressivity and detail (with continuous control of vibrato and dynamics), while the Cinematic Strings 2 help blend the tone and ensemble size. This technique of blending SWAM and sampled ensembles also works great with other libraries - check out the Teaser A Walkthrough, where Peter uses Spitfire Symphonic Strings as a layer for SWAM: ruclips.net/video/x2unb2S0rzQ/видео.html
@@Nextmidi thanks for clarifying.. Sounds really amazing..the blending technique is really convincing. Does the templates provided, include a section for sampled libraries?
@@DarrinNoNAME Yes, there's an empty track apart from the individual SWAM instruments that is specifically meant for loading your own string ensemble library. Depending on your DAW you may need to reconnect the routing to the disabled track. Then it should work fine - after all I'm using our template for Cubase in this video to do just that :)
So being that I'm deep diving into this first hand, I'm having issues with minor stuff that I shouldn't be. 1. Expression pedal. I bought one and its reading as a sustain pedal. I changed the settings on my controller to see it as an expression pedal and it does now but only as on and off. How do I get it to see the pedal as a range and not just on and off? Do you have a suggestion for pedals? I'm also using windows.
Hi Darrin, That does not sound like a problem with Divisimate - Divisimate does not really distinguish between controllers, it just works with whatever MIDI that is coming in. Sounds your problem has to do with the compatibility of your specific controller and the pedal. Maybe there is another setting you are overlooking. Sorry to say I can't help you with that, maybe throw that question out to a wider community of musicians.
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This is only a walkthrough and I almost started crying.
Yeah.. me too.
Absolutely wonderful! Thank you for an amazing innovation.
This is true next gen man! great job... really inspiring
no fl studio?
So excited to try this out!
Guys you are my heroes ! It is simply amazing!
Also, I saw that Big Band has a Drum section, and recommendation for physical modelling in drums? Sorry for all of the questions... I have a LOT to learn. And, I appreciate everyone's time and patience.
The only physical modelling drumset I know of is IK Multimedias MODO Drums. Pretty cool - Cymbals are samples though, and I'm not sure if they work well for jazz.
The Drumsets in Project SAM Swing! and Swing More! are pretty great, that's the ones we used in our live demonstrations.
I would like to know if you all are using any midi expression devices like the TEC breath controller or Roli or Touché Expressive E? Just curious. The expressive nature of these videos are pretty amazing.
Yes, Peter and I (Steffen) both use TEControl BBC2 when we perform. Breath for dynamics, bite for vibrato depth feels very intuitive. It really changed the way I perform virtual instruments in my work as composer, highly recommended!
Do you plan on expanding template compatibility,
for example, Waveform 12, and FL Studio?
Will divisimate be available as a stand-alone app to run on iPad rather than just a remote control option? I dont use a laptop for Camelot pro, just iPad so a stand alone version would be fantastic! Any plans?
Will buy when you have an Infinite Instrument template. Audio modeling is old school and I got rid of mine 2 years ago.
I am all set I got divisimate and swam strings let's what this baby can do !!
I've got a question: I don't understand how f.e. the swam-solo-violins sound so good together, is the midi-data (vibrato, expression etc) randomized (so that it's different on every solo-instrument) through divisimate or is that done with the template in cubase? Kind regards, Jona
There is actually no randomization to speak of between the different instruments within a section (though there's humanization per section from Divisimate). The ensemble sound is achieved by using different instrument bodies and different parameters (bow position, bow pressure, vibrato speed) throughout SWAM on each String instrument, and then having individual placement with EAReverb 2 in different positions.
So every instrument has it's own sound characteristics, and individual early reflections. It's noteworthy that there are some gentle random elements built into SWAM-S that can be cranked up as well, particularly related to vibrato and attacks.
Even if you don't have Divisimate, if you got SWAM and EAReverb 2, feel free to download our template project to see what exactly we did there!
Nextmidi thanks a lot for the detailed answer:) and the template🙏
Any love for Digital Performer??? I have used DP for over a decade, and I don't want to switch...
Could you give us the specs of your daw (cpu, ram, cores,...) that you use and that allows to play all those instruments simultaneously?
To run the full SWAM orchestral template at 512 samples (including the brass) we mostly use a system with a 2,3 GHz 8-Core i9 and 32 GB of RAM.
That's a lot, but by increasing the buffer or scaling down the template here and there you can run it on less powerful systems as well.
It is mainly very heavy on CPU, since there are so many modeled instruments.
Thanks. Did you edit the instruments parameter and settings and if you did, did you include it in the templates?
@@julienpainot8862 Yes, we did some changes to the instrument instruments, mainly to the reverb mix, instrument bodies, transpositions and levels, but also some more detailed things (turned off vibrato for clarinets, as they usually play senza vibrato in orchestral music).
If you have the most recent SWAM versions installed, those settings should load up with the templates.
Thanks. Also, when you play the strings in the video, do you play them with really high velocities? Because, when I load the same setup, I hear a lot of glissando and portando effects when I play with low/mid velocities. Is it the way we should use the Swam strings? By playing with strong velocities?
Yes, on the lowest velocities, the SWAM Strings perform a glissando, or portamento. On the higher velocities, both strings and woodwinds get a little staccato-like attack. So the sweet spot for "normal" playing is the middle velocity range.
These three playing styles are very useful for the expressivity of the instruments, once you get used to it. For example I deliberately use the portamento in the lower voice around 08:32
It looks like Eareverb 2 isn't an option on M1 Macs, if I read their website correctly.
It is not officially supported, but it does seem to run okay in Rosetta on our machines, though we have not tested that extensively yet.
It does not look like there is a native version on the horizon, unfortunately.
@@Nextmidi Thanks. I don't like running Rosetta if I don't have to. Are there any plans to map a different reverb which will run natively? I'm looking at Virtual Sound Stage, for instance, and am checking to see if they run natively. It's the placement mapping which I'm interested in.
Piano? Is there a piano from Audio-Modeling? If not, what do you recommend?
Audio Modeling does not have a piano, their focus has been on string and wind instruments so far. In some of our demo videos we used the Garritan CFX Concert Grand, which is a sampled piano. There are modeled offerings on the market though - check out PianoTeq.
@@Nextmidi Thank you so very much! Any advice on percussion?
@@sekritskworl-sekrit_studios There's no modeled option that we know of, but tons of good sampled options. Spitfire Symphonic Percussion, NI Symphony Series Percussion, Cineperc, Berlin Percussion... there are a lot of good offerings out there. More a matter of taste and preference of room sound.
- Steffen
How to double at the octave the same instrument (playing divisi)? For instance the violins 1.
With the SWAM Templates, you can't split a string section, because technically it only consists of three violins per section plus a ensemble sample library. The template is just not built for that.
If you have a library or a setup that is able to divide the section automatically when it receives multiple notes (like LASS, Modern Scoring Strings, Symphony Series Strings or Afflatus) you can use the port properties to have two rows in the matrix represent the same port. For example if Violins 1 are Port 28, you can click on the number of Port 27 and change it to 28 as well.
Now the routings of these two rows are both sent to Port 28. Now route the same voice to both and transpose one of them an octave up.
It's a convoluted solution - if you have samples (or individual instrument setups) for different divisi sections you can set up your template with this in mind.
Right now we're working on improvements to the fill voices mode to improve the workflow with individual divisi sections and auto-divisi libraries.
@@Nextmidi Thanks! I missed that in the documentation.
Also is there a way to filter incoming notes per port to prevent accidental key switches?
@@ChristopheTornieri Depends on the specific situation.
You can pull up a Low Range and only route it to the ports that you want to get Keyswitches in that range.
You could also just apply a transposer to the instrument that has sounding pitches in an area where you have keyswitches in other instruments and have it sound an octave higher/lower than played to keep out of that key range.
If you want to do neither of these things you can usually apply MIDI FX and Filters in the DAW to block certain keyranges or disable keyswitches in the instrument.
But long story short - no, there's no function devoted to just this, and I do agree that it would have its uses. Will bring this to discussion.
@@Nextmidi Issues can arise when you actually transpose one octave higher or lower then you can end up in a situation where you actually send keyswitches .
Will you bring the full editing to iOS? The remote looks good but i would love to have the full Divisimate on an iPad.
No plans for iOS just yet - but we're not ruling that out for the future. That could be a powerful tool.
Ok, wait, how did it take closed voicing and make them open?! This is blowing my mind
This works by splitting the voicing into individual chord voices and transposing the middle voice up an octave and giving it to the upper player in a section. This is very easy to build in Divisimate. Have a look at this video about the transposer plugin:
ruclips.net/video/jHUci4o9n0s/видео.htmlsi=FqLH3cr5MHfoq9tQ
Thanks 🙏
One more thing @08:32.. Are those all SWAM strings? If so, That section is just so... Dope!!! I can't recall any other demo of SWAM sounding like that in an orchestral arrangement like this.
Like earlier in the video, this is a mixture of SWAM Strings and Cinematic Strings 2. The SWAM Strings are providing a lot of the expressivity and detail (with continuous control of vibrato and dynamics), while the Cinematic Strings 2 help blend the tone and ensemble size. This technique of blending SWAM and sampled ensembles also works great with other libraries - check out the Teaser A Walkthrough, where Peter uses Spitfire Symphonic Strings as a layer for SWAM:
ruclips.net/video/x2unb2S0rzQ/видео.html
@@Nextmidi thanks for clarifying.. Sounds really amazing..the blending technique is really convincing. Does the templates provided, include a section for sampled libraries?
@@DarrinNoNAME Yes, there's an empty track apart from the individual SWAM instruments that is specifically meant for loading your own string ensemble library. Depending on your DAW you may need to reconnect the routing to the disabled track. Then it should work fine - after all I'm using our template for Cubase in this video to do just that :)
@@Nextmidi 👍 perfect! Thanks for the replies and details. Very helpful.
Ker Plow. Mind blown. You just got my 200 bucks.
Awesome
So being that I'm deep diving into this first hand, I'm having issues with minor stuff that I shouldn't be. 1. Expression pedal. I bought one and its reading as a sustain pedal. I changed the settings on my controller to see it as an expression pedal and it does now but only as on and off. How do I get it to see the pedal as a range and not just on and off? Do you have a suggestion for pedals? I'm also using windows.
Hi Darrin,
That does not sound like a problem with Divisimate - Divisimate does not really distinguish between controllers, it just works with whatever MIDI that is coming in. Sounds your problem has to do with the compatibility of your specific controller and the pedal. Maybe there is another setting you are overlooking.
Sorry to say I can't help you with that, maybe throw that question out to a wider community of musicians.
@@Nextmidi its my midi controller
damn I want this pretty bad!!
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