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Yes he was great as was the episode! Btw I feel like you guys read "Church of Spies: The Pope's Secret War Against Hitler" by Mark Riebling that book is all about this topic lol.
I KNOW! I KNOW! Joey OX single-handly takes down the entire garrison in an astounding display of marksmanship and hand-to-hand combat, but Hitler escapes by passing through a small side door that Ox's huge brass balls could't fit through.
This is an excellent mini series covering a topic that has been shrouded by immense secrecy and misinformation. Really enjoying it and nice to see you found a great guest presenter that could complement and hold their own with the great Queen Astrid, didn’t think that would have been possible.
For those who are curious, Helmuth James von Moltke was the grandnephew of Helmuth von Moltke the Younger, The Chief of the German General Staff during the opening months of WWI. He was also the great-grandnephew of Helmuth von Moltke the Elder, the Chief of Staff for the Prussian Army during the 2nd Schleswig War (1864), the Austro-Prussian War (1866), and the Franco-Prussian War (1870-71).
Nice to see a guest presenter other than the usual team members and others like The Chieftain etc in a World War Two video. Hopefully in the future we may get the chance to see other guest presenters in other videos too, it might be welcome and refreshing from time to time.
Would be nice if they would indicate in the video picture, what presenter is presenting a video. Personally i dont care much for the other 2 presenters, i only watch the video's with Indi, he is a great storyteller, compared to the other 2.
@@JohnDoe-bd5sz It is in the video description actually. But yeah, agree with you on that, it would be a good idea to put the presenter's name on the video. It may attract outside viewers who might know the guest presenter's name but are otherwise not aware of the channel.
@@JohnDoe-bd5sz Wait, are you not watching War Against Humanity because Indy's not doing it? You're denying yourself some of TimeGhost's best work, if so. Sparty's delivery is pretty powerful lately.
@@PolicyofIllusion I am not watching the WAH, i have tried, but Spartacus is not able to "catch me" quite the way Indi does. And dont get me started on Ingrid :)
Astrid speaks with her hands more than any person I've met who's not Italian. It's a very endearing character trait. She even gestures as others are speaking to emphasize their meaning.
Unfair! You can't just leave us hanging like that. ;-) Thank you for this series. As a retired history instructor, I know how hard it is to get balanced information on role of the Pope in Big Mistake Two. As a Catholic, I have a built-in bias, but I never expected him to be that directly involved. I knew about the actions of Catholic individuals (many became saints) and organizations but I always assumed the Pope was merely turning a blind eye and not actively involved.
Pope did not do enough. He could have done so much more but he didn't. If Putin would do anything to current Pope, Pope Francis, how would around 1 billion Catholics that is now in the world, react to that ? He was a coward and being as such caused untold sufferings to people.
@@ari1234a It is easy to judge historic figures. It is more difficult to understand them. Compared to our (Canada's) WW2 prime minister, the Pope comes off very well. (Short of Hitler and his crew, almost anyone looks better than Mr. King.) Our PM actively tried to prevent Jewish immigration into Canada during and after the war. Considering the large number of Jews be hidden in and moved through Catholic services in Rome and Italy, The Pope had to know about it. (My blind eye comment.) In the mean time, as I always taught my students, I'm more worried about what I'm doing now that the future will judge as stupid or out right immoral.
@@old-moose Pope knew, yea okay. People were killed for hiding Jews in their homes and they were just ordinary people Pope cared more about his status and fine meals he had in Vatican than the people he knew that were being tortured and murdered by Nazi regime. Like i said think about the uproar it would cause if Putin would go after current Pope, the billion Catholics worldwide would not take that well.
@@ari1234a Okay I'll bite. What more do you think he could/should have done? At high level he worked to change the government in Germany and at the lower level he covered for and protected the members of the church to save all they could.
Great work on shedding light on little-known aspects of WW2! Could sit and watch countless videos like this all day long, followed by buying a new set of books to dive deeper, you guys never fail to deliver!!
This series is kind of a real-life Da Vinci code. Very interesting, as I haven't heard much of this before. Thanks to all you researched these Vatican incidents - it couldn't have been easy. Very well done.
Fantastic episode! Astrid is always informative and entertaining, and James Peach is impeccable as a co-host. I so enjoyed their back-and-forth presentation! Thanks to this episode, we have a new WWII hero to thank: Joey Ox! Thank you for this! The pleasure was all ours, Mr. Peach!
Augustin, the Church's greatest theologian postulated that "War was always the result of sin, war was also the remedy for that sin." He also said a war could be Just if it was to fight evil. That pretty much describes the NAZIS.
I am so glad you spent 4 episodes on this subject. It is a huge issue that is normally not addressed in typical WW2 history. Yet it has so many aspects. TimeGhost Army Member
Nice job! I've been trying to point this out but unfortunately, people have been entrenched in the idea that the nazis were buddy to buddy with the Vatican. Great video guys and a wonderful series!
I hope I'm not alone in just marveling in the outstanding pronunciation of every TimeGhost presenter and it's guests. I could especially listen to either Astrid or Spartacus reading the phone book. Great episode!
This is by far the best episode of World War Two that I've ever seen. For me, the reason is that, I knew absolutely nothing about any of this. Absolutely fascinating.
Thank you for watching, glad you enjoyed it! I hope you'll check out all our specials & weekly episodes, as we're now in the 207th(!!!) week of WW2. Stay tuned, subscribe, and share with your friends!
? KGB/UB-Polish Branch,"Urzad BEzpieczenstwa", sent through Jesuits (sic!) in Poland, Mr.Turowski to Rome, to enter the novitiate and become a Jesuit (to be a spy as a chaplain on NATO there). In 1980 he got a mysterious directive (from Poland) to warn the Vatican that its security is v.questionable; he did it and of course, immediately the question aroused who is he (Mr.Turowski); no one before him suggested such a warning! JPII directly asked him@he mysteriously answered, I "serve the homeland".He was immediately transferred to..Paris and as a womanizer started dating the daughter of a policeman. French Counter-Intelligence checked him finally but he also "smelled" his mission was uncovered and he simply...escaped to Poland (to his UB superiors and Communist Party, later -the ambassador in Moscow). Ps. His 1980 warning seemed to prove that Polish Intelligence discovered the plot of KGB to assassinate the Pope and simple contra Moscov headquarters decided to warn the Pope- how can one explain this Turowski's warning to the Vatican? It fits other data: Bulgarian escaped to France and revealed the plot by Bulgarian (with Ali Agca) and France warned the Vatican but they did not believe it seriously at that time until the...day of the assassination on May 13, 1981. (all in Turowski's Memorias, by GAzeta Wyborcza; and C.Sterling, The Time of Assassins, 1983); later revealed: Vatican Radio in Polish run by Jesuits who were ..Secret Service informants (TW-Tajny Wspolpracownik)like Fr. Koprowski, also the Superior of Jesuits Eastern Europe province and plenty others. Vatican "CounterIntelligence" chief,Fr.Graham SI had ab.100 boxes of files on spies in the Vatican but JPIi forbade to disclose it. I "smelled" something v strange listening to Vatican Radio "teachings" during Marshall Law in 1982 and later-It was revealed later after 1989 why.
Astrid D and Tim. You both told a very intriguing story. And I would love to see where this goes one day. You both made this video extra special. God Bless you both.
What a great series and great presentation I’ve never heard anything about this before I wonder y not …. It’s to bad that none of the assassination plot against hitler worked out it’s actually crazy if u think about it
This is such a fun episode and series. And I’d never thought about the Catholic church’s involvement during the war. I’d love to see more series on other religions’ involvement during the war (and other groups too).
@@thunderbird1921 The problem and, in many cases, advanages with most other religions and denominations is the lack of structure that the Catholic Church has.
@@old-moose while it's true Catholicism is more centralized, all of the spiritual authority the Pope wields doesn't ensure Catholics toe the line. It's true today, and it was true in the 1930s-1940's.
@@johnnelson4880 Who Catholics being independent minded! The church teaches to on one hand obey the teachings of the church, it also requires us to follow our own moral compass. It isn't like the Pope or church has always been the perfect example of Christ in the world. Now if God hadn't given us free will, we wouldn't have these problems. (As an adult convert to the Catholic Church, I've long discussions with spiritual advisors and God about this and many other topics.)
I must admit that thanks to your channel, I've become quite a bit of a fan of Wilhelm Canaris (his later "works", of course). A person I've known nothing about before.
"Thou shall not kill" is NOT a christian or judaic commandment. The Commandment is "Thou shalt not *murder*" - you are allowed to kill lawfully. After all, the same section of the bible which introduces the ten commandments also describes when it is lawful to wage war or to execute wrongdoers. Killing in self-defense is also allowed, as is killing in defense of innocents. It'd be kind of weird if the bible outright forbade killing in light of that, no?
Polish Catholic Church took very active part in resistance pretty much on mass. Starting with local Parish level and going up to very top clergy took great risks and many gave their lives. I don't know what is the official count of saints who perished during WW2 and there are great many.
108 Polish martyrs were beatified collectively in 1999. Firstly, they are blessed, not saints and secondly I don't see fr. Maximilian Kolbe on the list (declared saint), so probably it's not full list. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/108_Martyrs_of_World_War_II
@@WorldWarTwo I never use auto-generated subtitles. I use dedicated English subtitles if they are available. Just too keep up with dates and words that I'm unfamiliar with since English is not my native language. If possible, it will be great for future viewers to check dedicated English subtitles for this episode. I think it's the first time when I see so many misspells, especially with names and organizations. Examples vs subs: Pius - pios / pew's / peers / piers Abwehr - upfair's / their Halder - Halda / haida P.S. Vatican Series Part 4 subs were great. :) Only this one is weird.
Thank you for posting these videos. As a catholic I often wonder how involved the church was doing during the war. Its seems it was more involved than I knew. All I knew was the pope lack of condemnation against the Nazi parties against the Jews
@@Zen-sx5io he is the former president of Republika Srpska during the Bosnian War, and was later convicted of genocide, crimes against humanity and war crimes by the ICTY ( International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia.)
Map of the GB to Oster triangle is after German victories in West in 1940. No more Denmark, Norway, Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg and total defeat France and Italy on German side since end of May.
Fascinating trying to imagine how the events from Dr. Felton's "The Rat Lines" fits into this very same organization! What absolute apocalypse it was back then...
The Church reflects society's politics. There were Catholic resisters to Nazism, and there were Catholic supporters. While the institution of the church opposed Nazism, that didn't stop Nazi sympathetic Catholics from helping Nazis escape Europe at the end of the war.
"the institution of the church opposed Nazism" This is simply not true. The story is just too muddy to make such a statement. Stay tuned for more detail.
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Sounds exactly confusing as someone trying to make up their resistance work after the war. A bunch of people talking to each other trying to convince each other to do something, but nobody does anything.
I think any one of us would find organizing such resistance a challenge in a continent where civilization had been systematically demolished for more than a decade.
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Very good job by Timothy. I think he is very well known in Germany
Yes he was great as was the episode! Btw I feel like you guys read "Church of Spies: The Pope's Secret War Against Hitler" by Mark Riebling that book is all about this topic lol.
(Sorry for the German)
Das soll jetzt nicht Böse gemeint sein, aber wie stehen die Chancen das Timothy Spies & Ties übernimmt?
Timothy has a special gentlemanly presence about him. He'd be a great addition to the team. Also love the on-screen chemistry between him and Astrid.
I KNOW! I KNOW! Joey OX single-handly takes down the entire garrison in an astounding display of marksmanship and hand-to-hand combat, but Hitler escapes by passing through a small side door that Ox's huge brass balls could't fit through.
This is an excellent mini series covering a topic that has been shrouded by immense secrecy and misinformation. Really enjoying it and nice to see you found a great guest presenter that could complement and hold their own with the great Queen Astrid, didn’t think that would have been possible.
Cris Thanks for watching
For those who are curious, Helmuth James von Moltke was the grandnephew of Helmuth von Moltke the Younger, The Chief of the German General Staff during the opening months of WWI.
He was also the great-grandnephew of Helmuth von Moltke the Elder, the Chief of Staff for the Prussian Army during the 2nd Schleswig War (1864), the Austro-Prussian War (1866), and the Franco-Prussian War (1870-71).
Great info, thank you
Nice to see a guest presenter other than the usual team members and others like The Chieftain etc in a World War Two video. Hopefully in the future we may get the chance to see other guest presenters in other videos too, it might be welcome and refreshing from time to time.
Would be nice if they would indicate in the video picture, what presenter is presenting a video. Personally i dont care much for the other 2 presenters, i only watch the video's with Indi, he is a great storyteller, compared to the other 2.
@@JohnDoe-bd5sz It is in the video description actually. But yeah, agree with you on that, it would be a good idea to put the presenter's name on the video. It may attract outside viewers who might know the guest presenter's name but are otherwise not aware of the channel.
@@gunman47 But if i have to click on the video, to read the description, it is faster to just start the video for 1 second :)
@@JohnDoe-bd5sz Wait, are you not watching War Against Humanity because Indy's not doing it? You're denying yourself some of TimeGhost's best work, if so. Sparty's delivery is pretty powerful lately.
@@PolicyofIllusion I am not watching the WAH, i have tried, but Spartacus is not able to "catch me" quite the way Indi does.
And dont get me started on Ingrid :)
Sometimes, history is actually better than fiction. Great job you two!
Thanks for watching, elbeto
Astrid speaks with her hands more than any person I've met who's not Italian. It's a very endearing character trait. She even gestures as others are speaking to emphasize their meaning.
Unfair! You can't just leave us hanging like that. ;-) Thank you for this series. As a retired history instructor, I know how hard it is to get balanced information on role of the Pope in Big Mistake Two. As a Catholic, I have a built-in bias, but I never expected him to be that directly involved. I knew about the actions of Catholic individuals (many became saints) and organizations but I always assumed the Pope was merely turning a blind eye and not actively involved.
Do you think allied involvement was a mistake? Gandhi is that you?
Pope did not do enough.
He could have done so much more but he didn't.
If Putin would do anything to current Pope, Pope Francis, how would around 1 billion Catholics that is now in the world, react to that ?
He was a coward and being as such caused untold sufferings to people.
@@ari1234a It is easy to judge historic figures. It is more difficult to understand them. Compared to our (Canada's) WW2 prime minister, the Pope comes off very well. (Short of Hitler and his crew, almost anyone looks better than Mr. King.) Our PM actively tried to prevent Jewish immigration into Canada during and after the war. Considering the large number of Jews be hidden in and moved through Catholic services in Rome and Italy, The Pope had to know about it. (My blind eye comment.)
In the mean time, as I always taught my students, I'm more worried about what I'm doing now that the future will judge as stupid or out right immoral.
@@old-moose Pope knew, yea okay.
People were killed for hiding Jews in their homes and they were just ordinary people Pope cared more about his status and fine meals he had in Vatican than the people he knew that were being tortured and murdered by Nazi regime.
Like i said think about the uproar it would cause if Putin would go after current Pope, the billion Catholics worldwide would not take that well.
@@ari1234a Okay I'll bite. What more do you think he could/should have done? At high level he worked to change the government in Germany and at the lower level he covered for and protected the members of the church to save all they could.
Hi Astrid and Timothy
Great and interesting episode.
Enjoyed this series.
Awating for next episode.
Thanks
Thanks for watching!
Great work on shedding light on little-known aspects of WW2! Could sit and watch countless videos like this all day long, followed by buying a new set of books to dive deeper, you guys never fail to deliver!!
This series is kind of a real-life Da Vinci code. Very interesting, as I haven't heard much of this before.
Thanks to all you researched these Vatican incidents - it couldn't have been easy. Very well done.
Thank you for watching, Perihelion. We always appreciate your support
This was incredibly interesting!!! Thanks for posting this!
Thanks for watching it!
Fantastic episode! Astrid is always informative and entertaining, and James Peach is impeccable as a co-host. I so enjoyed their back-and-forth presentation! Thanks to this episode, we have a new WWII hero to thank: Joey Ox! Thank you for this! The pleasure was all ours, Mr. Peach!
Thank you for the very kind words of support, Chuck!
🤔 Timothy Peach.
This series is gold, so many details I did not know and it sheds a new light on Pius XII.
Christoph Thanks for watching
Augustin, the Church's greatest theologian postulated that "War was always the result of sin, war was also the remedy for that sin." He also said a war could be Just if it was to fight evil.
That pretty much describes the NAZIS.
I am so glad you spent 4 episodes on this subject. It is a huge issue that is normally not addressed in typical WW2 history. Yet it has so many aspects.
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Nice job! I've been trying to point this out but unfortunately, people have been entrenched in the idea that the nazis were buddy to buddy with the Vatican.
Great video guys and a wonderful series!
First time I have EVER heard about this!
Thank you for watching, Tankaxe!
Superb guest host by Tim. Absolutely fit in like a glove with your team, it seemed like he was having a lot of fun. Please have him back soon!
Timothy* 😉
@@WorldWarTwo I HADNT GOTTEN A CHANCE TO WATCH EP. 4 YET!!!
I LOVE this subseries. I knew nothing about the subject.
They forgot to say how much the pope loved hitler ….and made gross profits from him ….ps these two r c**ts next level
Joey Ox - James Bond of the Vatican.
- wikipedia
as someone who has had NO idea of this plot at all, that "wait tilll next time" cliffhanger just made me swear
Hi Time Ghost Team. Love the special guests presenters. Hope to see more in the future. Great content as always.
Thank youu!!
Astrid should totally present more, shes great
Thank you Heka
I hope I'm not alone in just marveling in the outstanding pronunciation of every TimeGhost presenter and it's guests. I could especially listen to either Astrid or Spartacus reading the phone book.
Great episode!
Isaac Thanks very much for your kind words. It means quite a lot to our hosts.
This is by far the best episode of World War Two that I've ever seen. For me, the reason is that, I knew absolutely nothing about any of this. Absolutely fascinating.
Thank you Martin. Much more to come, please stay tuned
I find myself playing catchup this weekend. What an awesome episode! Thank you so much for sharing. I love this series.
Thank you for your loyal viewership, Hannah. It really does make my day seeing so many names every week in the comments. Take care
Timothy Peach sounds like Maurice LaMarche doing an accent.
That's a compliment.
This definitely helps remediate Pius XII’s reputation a bit. Enjoying the series.
Thanks for watching as always,
CrimsonTemplar
Really good narration of a fascinating story I hadn't heard before in history! Thank you!
Really enjoyed Timothy’s narration. Have really enjoyed this series as well. Would love to see a special on Dietrich Bonhoeffer sometime.
Surely this story should he made into a movie!
Hhhaaaa, Nonnnnnnn! nous devons attendre encore, excellente série Merci!
Merci mon ami!
Both excellent and intriguing. I am always learning something new with this astonishing and often poignant World War 2 series. Well done.
Thanks for watching, John
This was one of the best videos I've ever watched on youtube. Thanks for sharing this obscure goldmine of information. Love yall.
Thank you very much for your support!!
Really enjoyed this part of history! Very informative! Thank you! 👏
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I like this video series. A lot more balanced than the one from National Geographic done a few years ago.
This tie is a reissue of a classic, and a good one! 3.5/5
I never heard of Tim before, never seen him before, ,, ,,,but,,,,,I hope to see more of him. This episode was TOTALLY AWESOME!!!!!!
Thanks William!!
"Ox. Joey Ox." ("James Bond" Theme starts playing in background)
"The Vatican doesn't have a spy network"
Jesuits : "Are we a joke to you ?" 😉
? KGB/UB-Polish Branch,"Urzad BEzpieczenstwa", sent through Jesuits (sic!) in Poland, Mr.Turowski to Rome, to enter the novitiate and become a Jesuit (to be a spy as a chaplain on NATO there). In 1980 he got a mysterious directive (from Poland) to warn the Vatican that its security is v.questionable; he did it and of course, immediately the question aroused who is he (Mr.Turowski); no one before him suggested such a warning! JPII directly asked him@he mysteriously answered, I "serve the homeland".He was immediately transferred to..Paris and as a womanizer started dating the daughter of a policeman. French Counter-Intelligence checked him finally but he also "smelled" his mission was uncovered and he simply...escaped to Poland (to his UB superiors and Communist Party, later -the ambassador in Moscow).
Ps. His 1980 warning seemed to prove that Polish Intelligence discovered the plot of KGB to assassinate the Pope and simple contra Moscov headquarters decided to warn the Pope- how can one explain this Turowski's warning to the Vatican? It fits other data: Bulgarian escaped to France and revealed the plot by Bulgarian (with Ali Agca) and France warned the Vatican but they did not believe it seriously at that time until the...day of the assassination on May 13, 1981. (all in Turowski's Memorias, by GAzeta Wyborcza; and C.Sterling, The Time of Assassins, 1983); later revealed: Vatican Radio in Polish run by Jesuits who were ..Secret Service informants (TW-Tajny Wspolpracownik)like Fr. Koprowski, also the Superior of Jesuits Eastern Europe province and plenty others. Vatican "CounterIntelligence" chief,Fr.Graham SI had ab.100 boxes of files on spies in the Vatican but JPIi forbade to disclose it. I "smelled" something v strange listening to Vatican Radio "teachings" during Marshall Law in 1982 and later-It was revealed later after 1989 why.
This would make a brilliant movie
Astrid D and Tim. You both told a very intriguing story. And I would love to see where this goes one day. You both made this video extra special. God Bless you both.
You have me hooked!
What a great series and great presentation I’ve never heard anything about this before I wonder y not …. It’s to bad that none of the assassination plot against hitler worked out it’s actually crazy if u think about it
Daniel Thanks for watching
The number of failed plots against hitler always stands out to me.
I would love to see dr mark felton as a guest sometime!
This is so good! I’m so happy that this channel and all the wonderful people affiliated with it exist
Avery Thank you so much! As an intern, I'll take your comment as a personal compliment 😉
As you should ;) keep up the good work
I come for the "hello darlings". I stay for the spy games.
This is such a fun episode and series. And I’d never thought about the Catholic church’s involvement during the war. I’d love to see more series on other religions’ involvement during the war (and other groups too).
Read up Lutheran minister Dietrich Bonhoeffer, he ended up paying with his life his resistance against Hitler.
Thank youu!
@@thunderbird1921 The problem and, in many cases, advanages with most other religions and denominations is the lack of structure that the Catholic Church has.
@@old-moose while it's true Catholicism is more centralized, all of the spiritual authority the Pope wields doesn't ensure Catholics toe the line. It's true today, and it was true in the 1930s-1940's.
@@johnnelson4880 Who Catholics being independent minded! The church teaches to on one hand obey the teachings of the church, it also requires us to follow our own moral compass. It isn't like the Pope or church has always been the perfect example of Christ in the world. Now if God hadn't given us free will, we wouldn't have these problems.
(As an adult convert to the Catholic Church, I've long discussions with spiritual advisors and God about this and many other topics.)
Great interaction between the two. A great team.
Thank you Holland Paul
I must admit that thanks to your channel, I've become quite a bit of a fan of Wilhelm Canaris (his later "works", of course). A person I've known nothing about before.
omg the clifhanger, loving the series!
Teseu Thank you! Stay tuned
I could listen to you folks talk all day!
Oh, wait, I am! Thanks for doing all that you do!
Aramis Thank you for watching! Much more to come, stay tuned
Imagine if this coup only played out successfully!
Is that an effect or is she seriously that good at snapping?
"Thou shall not kill" is NOT a christian or judaic commandment. The Commandment is "Thou shalt not *murder*" - you are allowed to kill lawfully. After all, the same section of the bible which introduces the ten commandments also describes when it is lawful to wage war or to execute wrongdoers. Killing in self-defense is also allowed, as is killing in defense of innocents.
It'd be kind of weird if the bible outright forbade killing in light of that, no?
Polish Catholic Church took very active part in resistance pretty much on mass. Starting with local Parish level and going up to very top clergy took great risks and many gave their lives. I don't know what is the official count of saints who perished during WW2 and there are great many.
108 Polish martyrs were beatified collectively in 1999. Firstly, they are blessed, not saints and secondly I don't see fr. Maximilian Kolbe on the list (declared saint), so probably it's not full list. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/108_Martyrs_of_World_War_II
So cruel! What's going to happen to our friend Joey!
Another duo host and a new host at World War Two channel? Amazing.
One complain. The subtitles need some editing. A lot of misspells :(
RUclips generates the subtitles, unfortunately they're not wonderful.
@@WorldWarTwo I never use auto-generated subtitles. I use dedicated English subtitles if they are available. Just too keep up with dates and words that I'm unfamiliar with since English is not my native language. If possible, it will be great for future viewers to check dedicated English subtitles for this episode. I think it's the first time when I see so many misspells, especially with names and organizations. Examples vs subs:
Pius - pios / pew's / peers / piers
Abwehr - upfair's / their
Halder - Halda / haida
P.S. Vatican Series Part 4 subs were great. :) Only this one is weird.
This mini serie is a Wonder. I am glad the pope and the church took this way
Best episode ever Astrid!
Thanks, Samlind
Thank you for posting these videos. As a catholic I often wonder how involved the church was doing during the war. Its seems it was more involved than I knew. All I knew was the pope lack of condemnation against the Nazi parties against the Jews
Jeff Thanks for watching
im scared of how well she's pronouncing those German names
why did they get radovan karadzic to host?
Who is he?
lmaooo
@@Zen-sx5io he is the former president of Republika Srpska during the Bosnian War, and was later convicted of genocide, crimes against humanity and war crimes by the ICTY ( International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia.)
Lol, they have the same hair. Lol
Roflmao
Outstanding
Thanks for watching, David
Nice job! but I didn't know it was a cliff-hanger...!
You guys make the inaccessible , accessible !
Thanks for watching, Chris! Glad you accessed it ;)
The correct translation of the commandment is not"Thou shall not kill" but "Thou shall not Murder".
Who needs '007' when you've got real life? Astonishing!
Map of the GB to Oster triangle is after German victories in West in 1940. No more Denmark, Norway, Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg and total defeat France and Italy on German side since end of May.
I din't know about any of this. Thanks!
Thank you for watching!
Fascinating trying to imagine how the events from Dr. Felton's "The Rat Lines" fits into this very same organization!
What absolute apocalypse it was back then...
The Church reflects society's politics. There were Catholic resisters to Nazism, and there were Catholic supporters. While the institution of the church opposed Nazism, that didn't stop Nazi sympathetic Catholics from helping Nazis escape Europe at the end of the war.
"the institution of the church opposed Nazism"
This is simply not true. The story is just too muddy to make such a statement. Stay tuned for more detail.
Ok, Timothy can become a permanent presenter, such a great presence.
Joey Ox sounds like the name of a capo in an organized crime family. Best name ever!!!!
Oh, a cliffhanger ending.... How appropriate!
Well done. Consider a movie.
a wonderful coverage of this attracted matter
Mohammed Says Rashid Very glad to have you with us as always, thank you for watching
What a wonderful voice this guy has!
Thanks for watching, Edward
Welcome Timothy!
Great info again. Looking forward to iv.
Hey Timeghost, my son (adopted) Ja'shun graduating high school today. Wanted you to wish him well. Thanks. By the way he's really good in History and it's his favorite subject! 🎓🎓🎉🎉🎉🎉
Nice. Never forget Ja'shun.
@@theoutlook55 thank you.
Happy graduation Ja’shun! Good luck in your future learning endeavors!!
De'shaun CONGRATULATIONS to your son and good luck to him!! Good work on getting him there, keep being a great Dad and we're privileged to have you on our channel. Stay tuned, my friend.
@@WorldWarTwo thanks. I'm not a man though I'm a woman. Even though my name may not suggest it.
You've put me on the edge of my seat ! WHAT HAPPENS NEXT ????
Stay tuned, MrMax
Germany keeping Austria?
Not bad.
What is the relation Helmuth James von Moltke has to the former German chiefs of staff?
Wow! Did not expect to see Timothy Peach on a Timeghost production! How on earth did you get him?
Now I’m on to the next episode although we all know that Hitler survives until the very end of April 1945.
Please note that the one in charge of the closed captions are doing a pretty poor job
We suggest that you don’t use the RUclips auto generated captions…
Goodness! My mistake. I just tried selecting the English US cc and it is correct. Thank you so much
Great job Guys how can we put pope at war book david kertzer their are different kind of stories with Pope pius x11 how can we harmonize that
From now on i will be using joey ox's face for all my chad memes lol, what an mvp!
6:58. A rare slip up from our Queen. Freud himself would have been proud.
LOL you 2 work it well together well done
Thanks for watching, Marc
SS Sicherheitsdienst = "SS zika height teams"... god I love the automatically generated subs.
Sounds exactly confusing as someone trying to make up their resistance work after the war. A bunch of people talking to each other trying to convince each other to do something, but nobody does anything.
I think any one of us would find organizing such resistance a challenge in a continent where civilization had been systematically demolished for more than a decade.
This is fascinating!!!!
Thanks Kiwi!
Argh! A cliffhanger........ Darn you, Timeghost. Darn you to Heck!!!!!
Stay tuned, Karl
"The Pope? How many divisions does he got?"
-From Stuff Stalin Probably Didn't Say
i want more videos like this
Alin Sorry but you've triggered my (intern) copypasta routine
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Admiral Canaris is looking really young, good for him. He looks alot better than Admiral Donitz with his snake Wolfpack. Great thumbnails.
13:45 then 14:00. In March 1940 France hasn't fallen yet.
But I'm just nitpicking. ;-)
Very cool video
Thanks David
@@WorldWarTwo :)
At this point, even bearing scripture, he had to recognize the numbers game. One vs millions.