@@Dj.D25I disagree. 2020s are nothing like the 2020s. Pandemic, war and rapid advances in AI technology have led to the 2020s having a distinct culture.
I disagree. Back then kids from different nations would watch local tv shows and play traditional games. Now every kid is into Fortnite and Mr. Beast. I didn't say it was good culture. 😂
I agree. many of us don't hate tradition at all, we merely realize that it isn't feasible economically or socially. we're in a time and situation where the traditional family and lifestyle are all but impossible unless you were born rich or find a way to gain the system young.
Maybe because Generation Z never experienced the benefits of tradition, as traditional life died decades ago when the world changed against having a single paycheque from a modest job running an entire household?
Gen Z constantly tells me how they are the most educated generation in all of human history so how is it possible that they do not know that Traditions are the Solutions to Long Forgotten Problems? How does the brightest and the smartest group of people ever to spring up out of the Earth - the very end of History, not realize any of this?
@@a.taylor8294he’s not saying that though. He’s referring to the affordability of housing and lifestyle off of one paycheck . He didn’t say anything about gender
In the 1980s, I knew one person who didn't have both parents working full time. So "having a single paycheck" I think is not related at all to losing traditions.
I'm 37 and I have 3 young daughters. It's easy to blame the generation that is Gen-Z because they are the ones who are not wanting structure. However, who are the parents of Gen-Z? It's Millennials and Gen-X. We are the generations to be blamed, not the ones who are kids. Make your kids have family dinner. Do crafts with your kids and get them off their phone. Every kid wants to get attention from their parents. After speaking with many parents, it's obvious that their kids are not the center of their lives. The few kids who have parents that are all in, do not need to resort to a screen because they feel lonely. Let's have some accountably as parents and not just blame the kids who are reaping the problems.
I'm Gen Z. In school my parents really put me and my twin before themselves. In hindsight I don't understand how they did so much. I struggle with the idea that I could ever be that selfless. I've been told several times how jealous people were of me having such good parents. Its was honestly very very rare to meet kids whose parents were not divorced or whose parents were not physically or emotionally abusive or just emotionally unavailable. I do honestly belive that tradition died decades ago with the Boomers. Maybe not all of em. But you can find so much historical information about how much the Boomers changed it all.
Thank you for improving the world. A huge amount of our social problems stem from a 51/49 split in sex of the baby. It is very important to have fewer sons and more daughters if you really are trying to make a better future for the children.
The young men of gen Z don't hate tradition, they hate that they can't afford that lifestyle with the terrible econony or find a partner that share the same values.
As far as the second one goes, I think that applies more to young conservative men of gen z. I had friends in high school that ended up becoming insanely conservative, alone, and bitter about it. Meanwhile I ended up becoming insanely progressive, have a girlfriend of multiple years, and I'm only annoyed at the constraints of the economy and housing market (and I'm smack dab in the middle of gen z)
@@tatersalad76 they say this generation is going to have serial killers like the boomers did , I'd guess a few of those guys are prime candidates. Many of the old school serial killers were embittered with society because they couldn't get what they want.
@@Tailionis love each other it's that simple I don't view my woman as a lesser or a subservient I view them as an equal who can do things just as good if not better than I can
The real clash in our culture is personal worth/value. Our current culture tells us that personal worth is in things we own and tittles we hold. Biologically, thing we value the most are our relationship with other humans. But, that doesn't make our social elites any money.
I would say our true value is determine by looks more than what we have(but that is stil super valuable) But that stil benefice the corporations bc an atractive individual could sponsor the company very well
I disagree entirely many ppl are realizing that looks don't matter in the long run for relationships and what it and are attempting to be happy @@pizza8725
The system is set up by design to constantly show us 1% lifestyles, tell us if we don't have it we aren't working hard enough than make us go into debt trying to fulfill that fantasy...
So they divide us with scare tactics with films making males look like killers and monsters and woman run away, the logic thing to do, says the coperates
"What is liberty without wisdom, and without virtue? It is the greatest of all possible evils; for it is folly, vice and madness, without tuition or restraint." - Edmund Burke
All dictatorships are less evil than the US (if your cis male scum). Saddam Hussein should have never been overthrown. We need to have a leader like Pol Pot to fix the nation.....or better yet...you can just become a girl through HRT stop complaining and experience the real west through the lens of a girl and realize that only men have it bad.
@@beingsshepherd My service left a whole lot more blood on my hands than that... You aren't wrong but also there is a reason we are recruited young and dumb.
Social Media is the problem but it’s also that a lot us come from broken homes where mom and dad where divorce so there is no sense of family in us. Inflation everything is so damn expensive that instead of working towards a family we working towards our death basically, because the cost of living is so high we can’t afford a home we focus and ourselves, capital, and material things that don’t matter. We were tolded as kids that we can once we are adults we work hard and buy homes and start a family. But instead we are working hard and gain nothing
@@theboombody The problem is that when everyone wants to go really a lot for his or her individuality without anything that kits us together, that there is nothing to kit us together. If our demands from each other are getting skiy high whilst our wish to invest in the relationship gets to an all-time low, the relationship tends to break more easily. If all ties are seen as non-binding and fragile and living life to the maxx means living life without any compromise, no wonder marriages break down easily.
@@theboombody marriages are no more stable than any other relationship, people move on from partners and friends constantly in life, being stuck with someone forever is not an example of something working out
"Break over minor things".. you mean minor things like violence, disrespect, dominance, two people that hate each other stuck because they were dumb and horny in youth like the reproductive system designed, or maybe living an everyday hell because the other person is so inflexible that theres no solution beyond going their way? With the exception of the early pregnancy, the other things i described used to be in some way reinforced by the tradicional values of before, just think about ig
I hear Gen Z use Nietzche's line "God is dead" as a celebration, not realizing it was spoken as a warning just as much. With complete freedom from tradition, that means exile to a desert where you'll really have no idea where to go next
If we complement this with Nietzsche's theory about the Übermench, he suggested that the desert that people are thrown into after "killing God" because he limited their potential should be just a transitory pilgrimage in which human beings would take advantage to forge a better version of himself and thus overcome the abusive God with a new perspective on life. However, it is easy to see that not all people can have the necessary wisdom to understand this and, either they embrace pessimistic fatalism or they become totalitarians because they have embraced the idea of the Übermench too much,
As a Gen z person , when I was younger I was completely against tradition, but as I got older and learned more I realized that tradition is often times (not all the time) a good thing for society and I have a new found respect for it , and I also realized the lack of it is one of the main causes for why things are the way they are today. I don’t believe we are able to go back completely to traditional ways, but I do believe that living a life that at least resembles traditionalism with a few adjustment’s to fit the modern day is definitely possible.
Yeah same for me, the more I got older and the more I learned about the world. The more I realized I am an idiot and the past (before industrialization) was correct in many ways about human nature, we aren't perfectible, we are essentially monkeys with a bit more brain cells, and culture is an attempt to keep the natural instincts in control, progress is not inevitable you need an incentive for it, a good healthy religion keeps society functioning, there are differences between men and women, and if you believe that your just asking to destroy your people. All I know is that the modern ruling elite and system requires people to reject their ancestors and their stories to make them willing to work in a factory for 8 hours a day or sit in an office for 8 Hours a day for the rest of their life, for very little gain, while lying about well everything about reality which is starting to quiet literally break at its seams as the more they try to keep the illusion of progress up and everything they claim to be true. The more they say unemployment is good, the more they say their managerial class is good, the more they say the science supports their claims when really it starting to go against it, the more they say the past doesn't matter and isn't important even when we are matching the development cycle of a dozen other major civilizations, with the Roman Republic experiencing massive social issues and economic problems becoming an Empire. Babylon having a Feminist movement, decreasing fertility rates of the native Greek populations in the axial age, the Weimar republic having all the same or similar issues, changes, and movements as does the west have today. The more one would realize we're reaching the end of a cycle, which the founding fathers predicted would happen after simply looking at history and realizing that if every major civilization does this in their history and starts to decline their work too will go through this. We aren't unique at all we're just at a different scale and technological development than the ones before.
1. Why would a slave revolt against its master if the slave has no vision of a future without its master? 2. Why would the working class revolt against the putrid elites if the working class believes it will be lost without an elite? Secular society demonstrates the same sickness of the late, decadent, and rotten Roman empire: government patternalism, excessive materialism, hive minds, and rulership by the rich men. "What is liberty without wisdom, and without virtue? It is the greatest of all possible evils; for it is folly, vice and madness, without tuition or restraint." - Edmund Burke
Before watching the video, lemme say this: the more untrustworthy politicians & people in positions of authority are, the less people will buy in to old traditional norms.
@@ColeHastings traditional roles assigned for each gender to succeed in society has become vastly more difficult to sustain. This is not an attack on feminism & women being active participants in a capitalist market though. However, what can be said is that the labor it took and the level of education it took to live an affluent life back then is much harder to sustain now. The cost of living is through the roof. Politicians are too busy attacking the other party to provide adequate funding, and view many people as disposable. So people have just given up on old school traditional teachings/“The American Dream” etc.
As a Korean, I think that most of Korea's traditional culture has disappeared. However, I don't think it's entirely bad, as many of these traditions were often rooted in misogyny or superstition. But as these traditions faded, a sense of loneliness has begun to fill the void, and people who have lost their way in the absence of these values are now replacing them with political propaganda and one-minute videos on social media. Now, everyone is lost, and everyone feels deeply lonely. I believe it's time to recreate warmth and a sense of human connection that fits the present era
I loved Christmas time as a kid. Two weeks off from school, Jinglebell rock playing while my mom was baking cookies down stairs with snow falling outside, waking up early and unwrapping my Xbox 360 on Christmas Day. It sounds super generic, but it’s true. Now it just feels like another Tuesday. Everyone off doing their own thing, staying really disconnected and as corny as it may sound, not getting together as friends and family. It’s really depressing. I occasionally get sprinkled moments that remind me of the “good old days” and how much better they were. Individualism comes with pros and cons, and this is a major con for me.
Why are you not inviting friends and family to come over and each of them to bring some food? Why do people complain and do not try to start new traditions? Are we all becoming helpless babies because of the internet?
Christmas depression is actually more common that you think, there is actually a term for it as Christmas Blues. Don't hear the previous comment maybe you live away from your family and many people already have plans for that date or are not exactly so close to you to ask that. What my sister did when she lived alone outside our home country is to go to public events that celebrate Christmas. You can go there for celebration maybe for your own and maybe you will find also people like you that want to hangout with people in Christmas nun. It helped a lot my sister, maybe it could help you too
@@YvonneHoerde You say this as if people are just stupid idiots who can't think for themselves and all they need to do is wake up and smell the roses. Observe what is happening and try to figure out why, rather than just judge people for not doing what you think they should do. Why is there an epidemic of depression nowadays? Why are we so alienated and isolated? Why would we rather be alone with our screens rather than be with one another? It's one thing to observe this, it's another to ask why this is the case. Everything has a cause. We humans are very easily addicted to simple pleasures that require no commitment or effort. Thus, the screen addictions. This is a problem though. It's a problem with no easy solution. What are we to do? Abandon all technology? Clearly something has to be done, or something is going to collapse. A breaking point is going to be reached. But addictions aren't so easily overcome. It's one thing to tell people to invite friends and family over and it's another to actually make that kind of thing happen on a large scale. We all have to cooperate with one another or nothing happens. But just like a two party voting system forces people to choose between two candidates they hate, it can't change because everyone thinks that if they don't participate in the two party system then their vote doesn't count. When everyone is on social media, then excluding yourself from that is to exclude yourself from society. There are no easy solutions. Your questions are naive.
The trick is to understand the importance and necessity of old culture, accept the privilege of the modern era, and through an open mind utilizing not blind hope in science, but an open view of the scientific method. When you choose to follow the scientific method without bias and an open mind the entire world becomes more clear
"Extraordinariy claims require extraordinary evidence", as Carl Sagan once said. This not only denotes that Sagan could even have his feet firmly in reality, but he still deep down allowed himself to be open to the extraordinary if that one day occurred.
I was thinking similarly today. Unfortunately it’s lofty to expect everyone to be able to develop that appreciation, and I realized this after spending the entire day at a theme park
Ideally yes. Problem is almost no one spends time to learn about said methods, culture, or traditions anymore. All most people seem to care about is entertainment and scrolling through meaningless content.
U wanna know why tradition is no longer respected? You live in the information age where young people can learn all they want about crackhead ideologies like you know whodaism.
Its also the fact that we live in the US or any 1st world country, if you're from a 3rd world country, everything is more put together culturally. Technology is more widely available in the US which separates and makes everyone focus on their daily routines/tasks that involve their technology rather than their tradition (such as praying, going to church, attending any form of traditional social gathering, etc).
A lot of us don't want anything to do with the past, religion, or traditions. We just want to be left alone! The past wasn't great for a lot of us. And seeing all of the abusers in the church males it easy to stay away!
@ColeHastings THE REAL reason is because of white people. White Western culture was created to homogenize European migrants against black and brown people so what you see today is Western homogenization: staying chronically online, antisocial entitled behavior, consumerism, maintaining a Class systems instead of practicing religious or spiritual generosity like Africans or Indigenous or Asian or Latin folk. Capitalism is about gaining more and never being satisfied with what you have.
I would say a bigger issue is that so much of tradition today is monetised...everything has to be a hustle, entrepreneurial, cost a bunch of money and be heavily marketed. People are tired of traditions becoming a capitalist event to sell shit rather than just be a community. Move away from that and new traditions will arise and some old ones emerge and evolve.
People are defying tradition because they are mocked by the fact that times were easier, or simpler.... and they did not have a choice. the 1 to 1 outcome of work hard, get compensated was much more likely to work. We wouldn't have these breaches of tradition if the process to finding a decent job, getting married, creating a family, having unity in your community, was as straightforward as it used to be. Our worlds have expanded well beyond the horizons of what an animal is supposed to keep track of, and its damaging our ability to maintain a social continuity.
Exactly, we were told all these things growing up, that if we went to college we would be set up great, an end game, but no. Home prices out of control and everything else is out of reach. Dating is freaking terrible so all those potential partners(females) end up trying to reach the more richer folk. We tried we really did, and now that we ignore them they get angry. Housing market will crash pretty soon so I’m looking forward to seeing those house hoarders cry about it.
It’s not that they don’t want it, it’s that they’re realizing how unobtainable it has become for most people, and it’s breeding a large amount of resentment and downright bitterness. When the Simpsons first aired on TV, Homer was considered a loser. In 2024 a family of five being supported by a single income earner with a stay home mom AND two vehicles to boot, puts you in the highest echelons of society.
Cole, In all honesty, I believe that tradition is meant for a selective few. Personally, I don't consider myself traditional. However, after hearing so many stories from different perspectives and considering various ethical standpoints, I understand why many people choose to distance themselves from traditions. It feels like everyone is tired of being confined to a single box, expected to adhere to traditions that don't resonate with who we are. Like many others, I want to move beyond those expectations and live life on my own terms, doing what feels right for me before it's too late.
Im glad you've come to your own conclusions. The difficulty after that is creating a society that allows everyone to live life how they want to, where everyone also gets along. We're still figuring that part out.
"traditions that don't resonate with who we are", community and sharing happiness on christmas doesn't resonate with you? what does? everyone has their preferences but some things i believe are objectively true, and traditional community is one of them. it's a NEED for humans to live to the fullest. tradition/culture isn't a locked box you can't escape, not anymore. This isn't the 1600s
Tradition and spirituality is the expression of culture, eliminating tradition or spirituality, is like stripping a country of its purpose or individuality, your in essence getting rid of its culture, which leads to the death of purpose and morality, and the extinguishing of a people’s National identity. Life is only special when you serve others, living life in an individualistic way, is one of the most degenerate ways to live, preserving culture, is like preserving the unity, and purpose, and identity of your people
It’s definitely tricky to figure out how everyone can live the way they want and still get along, but I’m hopeful we’ll get there. It’s all about working together and finding common ground.
@@EmilyCarter-d1b I appreciate your perspective and where you're coming from. We all find meaning in different ways, and what resonates deeply with one person might not have the same effect on another. For me, it's not about rejecting tradition or community outright but about finding what truly speaks to who I am. While some find joy and fulfillment in traditional gatherings like Christmas, others might connect with different experiences or create new traditions that reflect their personal journey. I believe that each of us has our own path, and it's important to respect that individuality. Community is indeed essential, but how we define and engage with it can vary. Some might find their sense of belonging in traditional settings, while others might discover it elsewhere. It's all about what makes us feel most alive and authentic. In the end, it's all about embracing what makes us whole, whether that's through tradition or carving out new ways to connect.
“Culture” has a huge meaning- modern culture is often a fake product of marketing and consumerism- people use nostalgia to gloss over the truth of their past
I grew up in the 1960’s and 70’s in the suburbs of New York City. Life was better and more free back then. There were fewer laws and no political correctness/wokeism. People were better, too. They were more gracious. I used to hitchhike everywhere. Try doing that today!
im gen z and i dont hate tradition, if anything i hate globalism and this modern distopia we are living in, but even then is more dissapointment than anything
I wish I grew up in the 1950’s, my life would be set up for me and I wouldn’t have access to information about other people’s everyday lives and traditions around the world that would make me question my life and become jealous.
I personally think what’s killing Christmas is that is so corporate and stores are all about making money and we’ve gotten away from the traditions. These stores nowadays are pushing Christmas stuff in the middle of October before Halloween or Thanksgiving.
Charlie Brown ironically pretty much made the same argument back in the 60's. That said I see Christmas stuff out in August now! I'm actually often times sick of Christmas by Thanksgiving.
I think financial restraint is a big reason why traditions aren't being upheld the way they used to be. In my family, every year before a birthday or other occasion, there were always heated arguments about how much it would cost to prepare and how much was spent on celebrating after. Ruins the fun.
this dont have enough likes, im furry and i hate that furries themselves dont consider us a culture even tho we have millions of peoples, we are not really a fandom because what are we fan of? what work are we overfocused on? none.. we have a huge diversity inside the fandom and lots of art from music to now even animations and games and lots of subsections like scalies and robots and monsters and many others. but furries still rather the old definition from when we were a few hundred instead of millions. furries interact and even marry other furries way way more than whos not a furry, this is because we fit with others like us more and this happens WITH CULTURES. we literally first interact with others thinking of them as their fursonas and stuff as if this was really the person and many do act like that, so how... how... how is it still just a fandom? theres many cultures around the world that are considered only as subcultures or a hobby.
@@jktech2117I would agree that furry culture is a culture but I think what he was referring to is "brain rot culture". Brain Rot is basically anti-culture.
@@OPSECHero well some values should be kept not bcuz a book said but because is just right, like not stealing or killing or hating and some other stuff.
I saw a quote that sums up my thoughts about how important tradition is: Tradition isn’t worshipping the cold dead ashes, it’s preserving the life giving fire. Of course there’s some traditions that need to die (female circumcision for example). But for the most part, traditions exist for a reason.
Just goes to show you can convince some people of anything, if it can be framed in a catchy slogan. "Most traditions exist for a reason." Then they can each be rationally defended and don't need "traditionalism" to keep them alive.
@@andrewhooper7603I don’t know if traditions which hold a purely social or ceremonial purpose and don’t claim anything need to be “rationally defended” any more than culture itself
Yes because men getting their dicks cut up is normal, status quo circumcision and should stay around. You're just another idiot who can't see past their own nose.
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As an older person ( I just turned 50) I'm grateful I grew up in a time with some amount of tradition. Not all of it was good, but at least it allowed me to have some baseline or grounding from which to work. it allowed me to formulate a personality, have a strong sense of self, also to figure out my version of truth and grow into a cohesive, consistent human being with opinions, personal values that I live by. The feeling I get from younger people is that they are so busy questioning everything, they have a hard time functioning in society. Running from one cause to another, trying to find a reason to exist. If we are trying to build a house and we can't even agree on how to define what a house looks like...is it a cave? Should it be under water? should it be floating in the sky? We will never accomplish the goal. Younger people should look for mentors that are strongly grounded but still forward looking, disciplined and not chaotic and able to to articulate strong values to live by that make sense. Instead they seem to be looking to each other on social media for answers, people who are just as confused and inexperienced as they are.
The problem is that life is changing faster and faster. It seems like yesterday I had a line phone. Now, we have to worry about AI taking our jobs. That makes it difficult to value and. estimate the experiences of the older people which once were called wisdom, earned hard by the experience of life. Today, often young people are better and faster with new technology. But technology is not everything.Technology can solve some problems but also be part of others....
I’m 16 here and have a few things I want to say. In my opinion, the fall of traditions is resulting from the declining value of family. The way most traditions can go on for generations unchanging is within folk cultures, where people live relatively isolated from each other, often in rural areas, and family roles are emphasized. In contrast, popular culture diffuses extremely quickly and changes rapidly. The internet has resulted in the significant growth of popular culture. If I asked my peers what their life ambitions were, I’m not confident many of them would tell me they simply wish to raise kids in a family. I wouldn’t say that either. I guess right now, I really care a lot about my academic life and online communities which I am a part of. Maybe spending too much time on the internet and studying rather than being with my family are causing family values to disappear. I won’t deny that young people today, myself included, probably spend more time on the internet than is healthy and choose to socialize online more and in person less. For me, it’s easier to find people with the same interests as myself, every game its own forum or discord server full of people wanting to talk to you about the exact same topic that you do. I also find online discussion far easier, but that might be partially the result of my autism. It’s also sad to see how many people my age are the victims of one form of addiction or another, whether it’s a substance, a form of media, or anything else, it’s plainly not healthy and takes away our time and energy. I no doubt have an addiction to videogames and probably academics too, but other people can be addicted to far worse things. These addictions tend to lead people away from caring about their families along with the rest of their lives. So yes, I do think young people today don’t live by the value of family like our parents did. I think it’s hard for us to pick values when we have a hard time justifying them. I find it difficult how so many people are able to hold such strong beliefs in their religions when so much of those beliefs can’t be supported by observation. The idea of simply starting a family and spending most of my life with an office job just isn’t very fulfilling to me. I can’t say for sure what other people live by, but my personal philosophy is that I should do everything to improve the state of our people as a whole as much as possible, as that is all that will remain once I have left this planet. I spend most of my time continuing to educate myself, find entertainment, and supporting the communities which I am passionate about. However, I understand that I am still learning and my values may change as I learn more and develop better thinking and self control.
They look to social media for answers because msm tells them everything is FANTASTIC best economy EVAH and they don't see. Feel, or find that anywhere they go and are all realizing everything is a giant lie. That's why theyre promoting so much sense sore ship everywhere too now....they don't want plebs discussing reality with other plebs, they want us all to drink the msm Kool aid.
I’m a member of Gen Z and you put sentiments that I’ve been feeling for awhile into words. You always have in-depth intelligent videos, and I always look forward to them. Thank you 🙌🙌🙌
the problem everyone hates to acknoweldge is that those traditions were demanded to be respected, everyone gets angry that gen z doesn't want to be part of it, and that's why they don't want to be part of it, because you are angry, traditions can only earn respect not demand it, if someone don't wanna play that game, don't pressure and guilt trip them into playing it or they will hate it
@@theboombodyever heard of churn? The term usually applies to streaming services, but it could also easily apply to jobs. Burnout causes churn. And burnout is also a part of life. I hope you enjoy your burnout when it starts to catch up to you...
@@aiodensghost8645 Working 40 hours a week in an office isn't going to burn me out. Hasn't done so for 17 years. Now working 60 plus hours in an office a week, yeah, that would burn me out. But some of these folks think 40 hours a week is unfair and brutally abusive. I don't understand why. Didn't they have to do 40 hours a week of studying when they were in school? I did.
@@theboombodywho do you think you are? Nobody’s gonna pressure us into following obsolete bs just because you think that “Well you may dislike it, but you gotta do it” eff off…
Even people living in tradition hated tradition, shiny on the outside, but fabricated with extreme idealism. If the way people were living was something that they valued they wouldn't of let go of it so aggressively. The children growing up in 50's households became so disenfranchised with life their life's ambition was to go be high out of their minds in random fields in the 60's. Alot of injustice and abuse happening behind closed doors with no social outlet to talk about it, just keep up appearances.
Tradition is just peer pressure from dead people. Everything can and must be vetted. If a tradition cannot juatify itself, its value, and why it's worth your time in the current age then it's not worth practicing. Document it somewhere for posterity and engage with something more fulfilling. Make a new relevant tradition until people who know better create something better. The answer is to march forward, not retreating to the comfort of your mother's womb like some lost child.
"There is nothing new under the sun"- Wise King Soloman. If you don't listen to the lessons of the past you are bound to repeat them. You think you're special like every other arrogant godless individual.
@@Anonymous-wb3nz I don't understand what's your problem. Grammar mistake is so irrelevant here. It could be autocorrect, miss lick, maybe English is not his first language, or maybe he just didn't care. But even so, correcting people on grammar doesn't make you smart or productive. It's just you being weird.
@@BrookpitlikI have tired living my life that way, all it left me with was chronic loneliness and depression. Since i found the community I'm in and follow their traditions (even if some don't make any sense) I am finally happy again. It might work for you, but not most people, even introverts like myself.
@@Astrolavey living for yourself doesn’t mean isolating yourself from the world. You can get along with all kinds of communities without necessarily subscribing to their believe system, especially if that believe system can be harmful often times. Living for yourself simply means having your own set of rules and values and not being a sheep.
@@Brookpitlik I get along well with those that don't share my beliefs as well. It's just most people in my life that tried to live as an individual were depressed or narcissistic people like I was. Our minds still think in the same tribal sense as those over 200,000 years ago. Humans need a tribe to stick too that shares their values and traditions or they will be miserable. You might be an exception but again, most people can't live a healthy life like that from my experience.
I haven't watched the whole video yet but lemme say this: Traditions were originally meant to preserve the social order, putting pressure into individuals to achieve what is "expected by society", governments also purposely shaped the "culture" to achieve this. Basically traditions bullied people into following societal norms(check Japan's or South Korea social crisis nowadays for reference of how bad that is nowadays). Nowadays is way harder to lie to everyone thanks to the internet. Plus the propaganda around recovering the traditions and religions lays around the promise of bringing back the "good old days", the problem isn't indivualism or liberalism, the problem is this corporative capitalism wich keeps most people miserable and some of them slaves of their debts, living paycheck to paycheck with no foreseeable improvement, the problem isn't a crisis of faith or tradition, the problem is a crisis of hope
@@lucasgonzalez9668it does provide hope, but not the one we need. Is like putting a bandage in a giant wound and "hope" everything will be ok, when what we actually need is to heal the giant wound, and then, we can hope everything will be ok. Is the equivalent of having the Damocles sword above your head, but they say, "if you don't look there, it isn't there"
@@lucasgonzalez9668 it does provide hope, but not the one we need. Is like putting a bandage in a giant wound and "hope" everything will be ok, when what we actually need is to heal the giant wound, and then, we can hope everything will be ok. Is the equivalent of having the Damocles sword above your head, but they say, "if you don't look there, it isn't there"
When the elites own 95% of the wealth in the US while the poor gets poorer, remember the Boston tea party that was over a 3.5% tax. NOW taxes have gone up 200%! This is oppression, but the men wont stand up they're weak.@@lucasgonzalez9668
As a Gen Xer (1977) I'm going to put out my own hypothesis. In the past, tradition was seen as a glue that kept families and societies together (eg. church, working 9-5 or making sure you 'married the right person and had kids' so the apple cart wasnt upset). They were propagated and reinforced over many generations, using ostracization and even direct coercion as means to their end. When we asked our parents or grandparents why people acted as they did, we were told "That's the way it's always been" or "You can't judge a time you didn't live in". Well, guess what. As my generation ( followed my millennials and then Gen Z) started taking advantage of modern technology and doing some basic research, we started asking the questions...Why did it have to be that way? Did it make their lives better? Do you feel you would have fared worse if your predecessors went down a different path? Is tradition for its own sake truly constructive, or are you relying on it as an insular refuge in order to minimize you internal discomfort and cognitive dissonance? "Because we (or they} said so" doesn't cut it anymore.
I'm from a small town, its still like this (for the most part). The only difference is the internet allows everyone to do their shopping online, which has resulted in the nearby mall and stores going out of business. BUT, we still have local fairs/circus/carnivals that happen ever so often...a lot of people attend church services...it still has the community vibe and everyone looking out for each other. Major reason why me and my wife move back, to be closer to friends and family. Bigger communities, its pretty easy to lose yourself and not feel like your part of it at all.
I had to laugh because as someone who grew up the 80s the Pillsbury tube cookies were anathema to tradition. Cause, you always had a ton home baked cookies and pies at home. Everybody had a mix of traditional recipes and a few new things every year. It was making the cookies.. not eating them. There has been more mono-cultural since the late 90s and it started before everybody was on social media. It started with Clear Channel owning the air waves and cable dominating the television dial. As with the Pillsbury tube cookies so much of our culture was turned into these easy to use consumerist commodities. Our holidays are turned into sales events Christmas is essentially bookends for the biggest consumerist events of the year. It's no wonder Zoomer feels like they can't afford tradition.They've never learned how to experience tradition without buying it at the store
I'll add this. So another thing I will say as a Gen-X and this probably affected Millennials a lot more, is that tradition was often weaponized against progress, in particular progress in LGBT acceptance. There was often pressure to conform for the benefit of a stubbornly old-fashioned matriarch or patriarch. I think you'll find a lot of people from my generation and the one that follow very begrudgingly participated until they didn't have to.
Tradition can be rather expensive & time-consuming to uphold. People in "first world" countries won't bother to uphold it if they know it can't realistically fit their lifestyle.
I don’t think my generation hates tradition as many still try. The main issue is that we’ve been raised in an environment where what you do for work defines how worthwhile you are. If you aren’t being “productive” you’re being lazy. That doesn’t leave much mental energy to maintain friend groups and traditions. I know most people my age enjoy the traditions we participated in as kids but with little time, money being tight, and a severe lack of places to really meet people outside of school or work, most end up without a core group to spend time with/participate in traditions with. My group does Easter egg hunts, game/movie nights, a Friendsgiving, and a huge white elephant every year. When new people join the group it’s always something they comment loving about it. My generation wants community and does like traditions but the modern environment doesn’t nurture that.
@@Memyselfandi59057 oh yeah, let's retrace back to the land of discrimination and hate, that way we can get back on this "right path", the path of self destructive prejudice and a false promise of freedom only gifted to those who affirm and align to every previous tradition and social standard, because FUCK social progress, personal freedom, and happiness right???!! TLDR: fuck u dumbass, get a time machine or move to Russia/a third world country if you miss the oppressive world from the past, and take everyone like you with you because you will not be missed. Alright a bit harsh lol, but you got my point ~w~
@@Memyselfandi59057Oh, I see, we must reject the social progress we have made and travel ourselves back to the America we left behind for good reason. We must roll back the clock to the self destructive, prejudice, and hateful America where personal freedom was laughed upon in the land of the "free" and anyone who didn't align with social norms and traditions were shunned and discarded because no one could find value on anyone or anything that didn't directly agree with them(selves). I see that your telling me the way we should go here is to backtrack to the "right path" where people who were different or too weak were living in constant oppression and fear for their lives everyday, and many individuals never found safety or solitude in the land where "Everyman was created equal"? We should definitely go back to the downright cruel and harsh times of hypocrisy and hate because fuck social progress, personal freedom, and the right to exist and be respected no matter what, right??? Who needs that anyways!! You clearly don't because you don't understand how fucking privileged you are when you can sit there and act like you have a fucking right to strip away hard earned rights from those who deserve it as much if not more than your selfish ass just because you don't like how everyone isn't a carbon fucking copy of yourself. TLDR: fuck you selfish asshole, go to fucking Russia/a 3rd world country or get a time machine if you want to go back to the hateful prejudice America that once reined, and whilst your at it, take all the people who agree with you! Because this society has no room or time for someone as simple minded and self serving as you, you will not be missed and don't even begin with anymore bullshit. Sorry I was a bit harsh, but I really wanted to get my point across and in sick and fucking tired of this level of entitlement paired with fucking ignorance, obviously every generation ever will have bias about the previous and following generations, and the fact of how little you recognize this already shows me how misinformed you are. Now go live your ass in your own life and leave other people to theirs, aka MIND YOUR OWN DAMN BUSINESS
I think tradition dies the more knowledge people have. I mean people believed in slavery in America once but now we don’t because we are knowledgeable about screwed up and inhumane that is. Tradition doesn’t always mean correct
@@lucasgonzalez9668 I’m not sure if you know the actual definition of the term tradition. Slavery was literally a norm of society at one point and legal. Those are all things that classify as something that was a tradition. Gathering around the fire for Christmas gift opening is not the only thing that can be a tradition…tradition is something that was the norm, old fashioned , the standard , the regular. Those are all words that mean TRADITION
@@tlow1256 So is war a tradition? Is poverty a tradition? Is dying of disease a tradition? I wouldn’t classify them as such, but, like slavery, would classify them as aspects of the world.
Neither does ‘progress’. It’s best to utilize critical thinking and find what work in terms of societally than individually and not swinging towards either extremes.
Personaly for me, absence of traditional values also comes from the fact that my parents used to be broke when I was born. Their habits were all about saving money and gaining the ones, so all traditions were set back for the sake of surviving. Also we are multicultural family (my father is Kazakh, and mum half Tatar and Mordovian) that lives in a central city were culture is not the case as itself. Most people here are just building their own life not dependent on ancestors, a lot of us just don't have one after all terrible things that happened after the Soviet Union collapsed. So no subjective and objective traditions, adding social media that were the only source of warmth, comfort and hope when I was a kid, formed a strong belief in me that nothing from the past matters if it doesn't benefit the present.
People have been hurt by people they trust, who does bad things under the guise of being helpful. Instead of attacking the individual, they attack the culture. Living in spite of. Literally 🔥 village to feel its warmth.
What do you think guides people? Many people I see act like sheep, never stepping outside of what culture tells them. The news and ads tell you what to believe and buy. Social media tells you what to value. Many people don't deviate from this.
Maybe the village should work together and set up some fire suppressant systems so that way that there's no fire that can take out the whole village. Oh wait that's too much work and you'd rather blame the person that you've hurt OK...
I think something that was missed is that a lot of culture is deeply rooted in racism, misogyny, or religion. And as the world grows more respectful and less religious people over time reject those traditions, sometimes replacing it with something similar, and sometimes abandoning it all together.
We just replaced mysogny with misandry in today’s feminism I don’t respect them for a reason. I support them when they say pro choice but when they shit on families you might as well call me a conservative they don’t even know what they wantz
Absolutely not. Many cultures already were there before they came across other races so. Those that say that completely misunderstand history. Misogyny was not orginally part of it neither. That just grow that way in society that men were dominating. This after the big disaster on this planet is because of survival and fear.
I enjoy traditions as a Millennial, but I believe there is always room to experiment and try new things out. The issue is that Gen Z simply hates everything, their entire personalities are rooted in complaining and looking for conflict when there isn't any.
Even though I'm Gen Z, I love traditions. Sadly my family isn't very fond of each other and yes, technology is now taking over which is making us more disconnected
I don’t see there being time to develop culture. We are working more now than at any point in history. Hunter gathers works 3-5 hours a day. 1800s had 12 hour work days but only 1 person in a couple worked. Now? Well a family will be putting in a full 80 hours (and frequently more). When subsistence requires a 24/7/365 grind… well the fluff (or more accurate, the work is do the fluff, takes a back seat)
I've talked to people who were alive in the 1950s. The ones who were kids then were nostalgic for the time, but most of the adults had issues with alcohol, gambling, & substance abuse, & say that the families depicted on TV shows at the time were idealistic propaganda. Any woman from that time who identifies,as,a republican is a victim of lifelong grooming & gaslighting.
@@NoshikiYT yeah, but most teens I’ll say like 70% or so don’t practice traditional stuff anymore lol we aren’t interested in all aspects of our own tradition since we’re more interested in life outside our country (mainly America) or just me
If thinking about the subject in the narrow sense then the answer is simple. Today's kids can and do opt out of traditional activities while previous generations couldn't. When I was a kid and there was a holiday I couldn't opt out. There was no internet and choise of media to consume except books. I had TV but all available channels had content related to it. I could play single player video games on the PC (often unrealistic 2D ones) but that was equivalent to playing alone with toys and I had to participate in activities, there was nothing more interesting to do anyway. Today's kids (and Zoomers in general) can select what media they see or disappear into the virtual worlds of MMO games or other multiplayer activities. Everyone in gen Z had fast internet access (one that allowed video streaming) before the age of 10, I had such access at the age of 23.
That's an American import In my country although more popular still is quite irrelevant we have pumpkin carving contests,same with black Friday it only became a thing here when was basically dd in the states and is a time for bogus discounts😂
Last December I went with my girlfriend to the Mall because before the "scary virus" we used to love going to see the Christmas decorations and the songs and once the "scary virus" disappeared we returned to the mall during December and they felt souless, there was no music, the decorations were seriously lazy and bad and every Christmas since the "Scary Virus" has felt like a hassle and I don´t even feel like celebrating them. If it wasn´t for my girlfriend who loves Christmas, I wouldn´t even celebrate them anymore. They feel like they are more like an obligation, specially because I have to have my extended family over who can be... particular. I just want to relax at home, but NOOOO, I have to act like I care about my extended family who I only see during Christmas.
Another thing is we have no obligation to practice them, the only reason we thought we liked it is because our parents told us to like them If you want to celebrate traditions that probably started by death or somebody suffering then be my guest
The death of holiday traditions make me so sad. I’m 23 now, but growing up I remember looking forward to the holiday season all year because it was such a magical and fun time. I can accept that those years for me are mostly gone now since I’m an adult, but I feel so sad for gen alpha and the future generations that don’t seem to be experiencing all those magical moments
@@jasraj155Social media was mainstream in like 2010, smartphones loaded up with Twitter and Facebook were already common, there wasn't as many boomers on it spreading conspiracy theories though.
Probably tech has made society more isolated as a whole. Holiday traditions are communal by nature, their inherent meaning and value is sustained by a type of communal spirit that seems to be changing., much like Christmas carolers really aren't a thing anymore; whereas in previous eras, it was probably just a given during the holidays: something that people did due to tradition. May Day festivals were once popular in America as well, but has long since faded away. I think humans will always have traditions, it'll just change forms as time marches on.
What we need is a culture kept alive through the individuality of people and through taking our responsibilities seriously. A culture of basic decency only, if you will!
@@dazinqwilly3385 Thank you very much! I'm a fulltime philosopher who focuses on psychology and social dynamics. While describing opposites at first, them being the individual and society respectively, they have deep ties and I highly encourage you to start observing yourself and other people. Find the patterns, find the keys to open the door to a better future! Cheers! ✌️
@@trwn87are you really a full time philosopher? If yes, please look for the comment I made in this video and tell me what you think about what I said 🙏
@@edxotattoo I mean, philosophy isn't my job (I still go to school in fact) but its an integral part of my life. I never stop thinking. So that's fulltime philosophy, isn't it?
The issue is that tradition has become synonymous with the right wing and Christianity. I want tradition, community, but not psychopathic churches and bigotry.
Those people also politicize Christmas. I grew up around people like that and while I don't mind Christmas, I absolutely cannot stand religion anymore, my depression pretty much went away upon me becoming an atheist. I'd ironically say I'm a better person too as I'm helping others just because I'm a good person, not because I'm trying to rack up points to be on a gods good side.
As a millennial, what are good old days? When i was a kid, stuff sucked, when i was a teen we had no money to go out or party, same for my 20’s. now in my 30’s, i buy things i would have liked, i stay away from family drama. Weirdly enough, i love doing thanks giving with my wife and a couple friends i don’t mind cooking for. Thinking of doing better decor for halloween because i never got the chance to and hand out more candy. For Christmas we already decorate, and its just us 2. For new years, i just game and drink. Not traditions, just stuff to keep busy with. if we don’t decorate, who will? I don’t blame any one Gen for traditions dying out. As a millennial i was inline for the most part, I’m sure Gen Z is the same. They don’t like it now, but will later when they out grow being online. Gen Z is doing great same as Gen X.
The good old days are an illusion. If you look at the supposed good cartoons that the kids grew up with, you will find that almost every single one was a critique on capitalism and modern day life and that your future was always going to suck. Codename Kids Next Door is one that comes to mind. It's about kids fighting against evil corrupt adults like Mr. Boss who is not too far off from the out of touch MBAs we see running companies today.
5:24 it’s called the age of Aquarius. Which is technology, information and enlightenment. The age that focused on religion was the age of Pisces. Its other themes included anything illusionary which was also Hollywood. Thats why Hollywood is currently struggling now, as we go into the age of Aquarius.
I have a lot of thoughts. •I’d love the community of church, but im gay and trans and no matter how much I desire religion, the people there would exclude me. •I’d love to have traditions but those require time off work and money. Something that me and my parents do not have. We don’t have the money for traditions. The remaining traditions there intentionally exclude people like me like we are diseased lepers. When I was a kid I didn’t have a sense of self, so I wasn’t immediately banned from my local community based on something I can’t control, so I am nostalgic for that time. The economy was better too, and we could afford traditions and Christmas spirit. I am not the most keyboard warrior type; I am a good person who is very spiritual and I try to be kind to others, I just want to be respected. I don’t want my community constantly commenting on how much they disagree and despise the person I am. And again, we just don’t have the money to have traditions either. Nor the time.
Are you American? Because i Dont think most Catholics In my country would exclude you , I won't lie some old people might make fun of you behind your back or comment that your gay ,usual is out of ignorance or belief they learned, to be fair they talk bad about everyone that does something they disapprove 😂 In my country most get vacation time that is connection to religion and thus to culture besides Christmas even then depends on your family isn't a lot of money to keep the "tradition" and you can always divide it by everyone. We aren't traditional like old people anymore but some traditions prevail and new are formed. It seems when Americans talk about tradition they mean the nuclear family.
The final statement reminded me so much of Everything Everywhere All At Once. Which I have heard described as a Metamodern movie. “Yes, the world is confusing. Yes, I am lost too. But all I know is it is worth it. And in this crazy world, I want to be with you.” Acceptance of the complexity of it all while still holding onto humanity and hope.
@@Brookpitlik The source and ground of existence. God is "to be". Jesus Christ is God in the flesh. Orthodox Christianity is true and unfiltered Christianity. Western Christendom has lost its way.
Naive post. There are things where benefits to you are not immediately clear until many years, even decades later. As you get older and older you'll realize this.
Oldest gen z or youngest millennial here. Hubby and I had our first real Christmas tree last year because our baby is old enough to start remembering. It was so expensive for a tree like wtf?!? Good thing our son still loves playing with cardboard boxes. We made a cardboard box city for him along with a few small toys. Guys we need to raise pay by a lot across the board. I want to be able to afford a half decent Christmas every year. We also can in no way afford another kid so pray for no more accidental additions. Birth control isn't 100%. Anyway merry uh .. summermas
Your self awareness and ability to describe reality without bias is needed alot more on RUclips it's been a while since I've found a video that has zero points I can't agree with
Personally, as one myself. Some reasons why I'm not as interested with stuff like this is also because sometimes, online environments, ESPECIALLY in video games, just happen to be something I want to do instead. I obviously still find culture- culture, traditions, all things similar, interesting topics and events to do. But, usually I cut down on some stuff like that to stuff like... - personal interests to cultures generally more appealing - learning the history of cultures, so you may lack interest to contribute to it with whatever you've learned about. At the bare minimum, finding fulfillment in classes of cultures, and religions, things alike is something that should be there. Like look, you won't like it if you were on the unlucky side. But, if I'm not able to even play a role in some way to the bare minimum for even fulfillment of being apart the process, there's not much to stay for. - and simply, online fantasies and gaming worlds, I just happen to find way more entertainment with fictional entertainment. Things that just happen to be WAY more cooler and interactive because in videos games you can really see magic come to life in a simulated world. I dig that, and I think other people would if they were able to be in an environment where you can really make it out with tools. - and when comparing some real world religions with fictional ones or new, old, modern ones; sometimes, fictional ones online just happen to be, just more intriguing to me; something I would rather do instead because I find it to be better to be doing. Religions that are in gaming worlds in their stories are cooler sometimes honestly. I know, and other people know that some religions in fictional worlds could be the craziest, unfamiliar, and very unrealistic, but they're COOL, ngl.
Indeed, your perspective resonates with many of us. Also growing up around the internet, I found myself engrained with the modern luxuries and experiences as well instead of old-school beliefs that many from past generations faced. Yet, like you, I also find culture and history quite intriguing. As a Hispanic myself, I live the language, tradition, cuisine, yet i’m also quite progressive in other ways (as I mentioned in another comment, i’m an Atheist, quite unlike other Hispanics).
People have to go on, aticking to tradition make people and the world stagnate. So, no religion, no politica, no fake history, no old habits that make no sense. People who stick to these things like religion, old habits etc. will never go forward and will always fail.
I dont understand your point. Taking Christianity for example, it has been around for 2 thousand years and many scientists from those 2 millenia were Christians so i don't understand how religion holds humanity back.
@@jasonfromguitarcenter i think Kepler, Boyle, Pascal, Mendel, Lemaître, and many others disprove that. You can be religious and be a scientist at the same time.
Basically in the past people formed traditions to counter types of behavior among people then later generations forgot why those traditions where made in the first place and found them to be unnecesaary. Now that we are suffering from the lack of those traditions people have started to realize why those traditions existed and are trying to bring them back. But unfortunately some people have decided that the only way forward is to destroy everything and start from scratch so we now have Accelerationism which is set to run the world down to the gorund so we can start from square one.
It's just as much the fault of Big Tech as it is the Millennials themselves. Millennials grew to resent tradition in The late 2000s and 2010s because they graduated into an unworkable economy. They were promised the things that Their parents had and got absolutely none of it. Boomers kept appealing to their traditions, but they only hindered Millenials' ability to make a future for themselves. Big Tech created a society built around middleman services. Everything from ordering food to getting a job to even dating requires the use of an app that acted as a middleman. There's nowhere to meet up anymore, Nobody delivers on their own anymore, And nothing is public anymore. The traditional methods of interacting with the world are gone, And this is had the effect of isolating the younger generations. But there is no reason to undo this middleman system because it is *massively* profitable for the middleman, Damn the long-term consequences. Add in the Pandemic And it's social and societal damages, and it's no wonder why the younger generations have given up on culture and have chosen simply to survive. Because despite what it looks like, that's all we are doing. Surviving a world that hates us and parades around the fact that it has failed us on purpose. And with the rise and fall of Trumpism, it has become more and more obvious that There is no place in the world for young people.
Cause the bitterness and economic mistakes of previous generations all came to collapse on us at once when we were little kids. Adults/elderly ppl around us growing up were all proudly espousing traditionalism and authoritarianism, while constantly taking their frustrations out on us. So we got turned into a clone of gen x at large because we were primed to reject the fallacy of appealing to tradition. . Even now it keeps getting worse with elderly employers so out of touch with current economic reality they see us fighting for living wage and call us lazy and entitled.
At age 53 myself, living alone 23 years in the U.K. and having extended family in Rural Ireland, working 30 years in supermarket retailing, over the years, I’ve found myself being indirectly and effectively forced to abandon many Christmas traditions, especially during Covid - I don’t even travel until after the New Year, as it’s a nightmare and since Covid, because of higher costs and last minute delays and disruptions, it’s become virtually impossible to plan trips, even after 2022 - I was stranded in Holyhead for 2 days in October 2022 because of a train strike and where SailRail used to be more reliable than flying and air travel
tradition was: - the customer is always right - one time payment or rent to own - everything was affordable (so society can easily trade and support each other) - INS!!!ANE pe!!!ople (wasn't accepted) - Strong m@!!!n existed to keep things stable and integrity
Unless we create our own communities. It will be much harder, but it's still possible. But you may be judged by modern society, cus your not living up to the norm as of modern values. So people will shun you for not fitting into their degenerate habits.
I just found your channel Cole. This was awesome. I do a lot of thinking about what our world has evolved to and the holidays are certainly no longer the same.
@@MirridonOnslaughtIt’s hard for people to have a community when people can’t afford anything right now. The economy is currently horrific, and the dollar has lost like 26% of its value in the span of four years. People can’t do these things due to financial problems.
imo traditions should be critically examined. if they are harmful, they should stop. if they are harmless or good, they can stay. if someone doesn't want to partake in a tradition, then they should be free to do so.
I understand what you’re saying cole Hasting. I always feel that the world isn’t the same anymore each day because movies are flopping, people don’t find the holidays fun anymore, war conflicts are going on, and when Covid hit, it ruin our relationships with all the people around world. I wish I can go back to the old days in the 2000s where it was so much fun and better.
A large portion of the “culture” mentioned at the beginning of the video is based upon what we do “as a family”. In order to retain that culture, you have to produce a family of your own with which to continue those traditions. If you want stability and traditions, get married and have kids. And stay away from the influences that destroy the things you wish to preserve and protect.
You have traditions with your parents too. At least most traditions we had were both shared by us and our parents. Now if you are lucky to afford children. I think you’d experience those tradition with your kids and parents, no?
Great videos Cole! I just found your channel recently and am binging them. For the thing about a sense of community dying, I'd just like to point out a lesser known reason for that. Car dependency. Especially in the US and Canada. My parents (GenX) tell me (GenZ) about how they used to walk and ride their bikes everywhere when they were young. They'd be neighbors with their friends, and live close enough to activities like the swimming pool or the park to walk or ride a bike there. Then they'd spend like 50 cents to get into the pool or play at the arcade or roller rink or whatever. Car dependency has gotten worse and worse here as time has gone on, and third places have disappeared. There are barely any roller rinks or arcades anymore, and security will kick you out if you try to hang with your friends at the mall, because you're "loitering." And even if I wanted to, non-residential areas are too far away to get to without a car, and there is no bike or public transportation infrastructure. Everything is built for cars, and against pedestrians. If you want to learn more about that, I recommend the channel NotJustBikes. And for learning about third places, I recommend Andrewism's video about third places. Third places are basically cheap, easily accessible places for community to thrive. They used to be more common, like arcades and roller rinks, but they are few and far between now. They're not accessible because you have to drive everywhere (which btw is also dangerous, ableist, and discriminatory towards the poor) because everything's so sprawled out, and they're definitely not cheap. Third places allow for interaction between people of differing economic classes and ideals. They'd connect, compare and contrast, and learn. Even organize protests and rebellions, and come up with new ideas. We don't get as many opportunities for that now. I think the lack of community IS from the things you said, but also from the potent combination of Capitalism, car dependency, and racist zoning laws. Car manufacturers lobbied for more car dependent infrastructure so they could sell more cars to make more money. Just look up black and white pictures of how US streets used to look, you will be shocked! People walking, riding bikes, driving cars, AND taking trams, all on the street! It was glorious, and the Netherlands has pretty much perfected this by having all those options, just in separate lanes. You wanna know why there are so many white people in suburbs? Because decades ago, white people flocked to the edges of cities to get away from people of color. Then they created zoning laws that made it harder for any other people to live there. "Gated communities" and such. It exasturbated the car dependency problem by putting people's living spaces far away from the places they did everything else, like the doctor, shops, and offices. Community thrives in places where these things are closer together and mixed together. Plus, other laws also eliminated even MORE practical and affordable options by making small apartment buildings basically illegal. That's why you'll see these pictures of big American cities, where it goes from rows upon rows of identical single family houses, to sky scrapers and everything else. It's ridiculous design, and it kills a sense of community. Just wanted to point that out. There's a lot to cover with Urbanism. I feel like a lot of the time people blame it all on "social media BAD," and don't mention the STRUCTURAL obstacles that are so normalized. Cars are freaking dangerous guys, come on. No way I should have to risk my life to go to the freakin grocery store. Pedestrian centered infrastructure is so much better! There's something for everyone, and you don't have to worry about getting hit by a car all the time. Pedestrian centered spaces are also more aesthetically pleasing, and have more third places. You feel less stressed in that kind of environment, which puts you in a more friendly, chill, conversational mood. The fresh air, moving your body, the sights, the practicality... it makes you feel good.
4:17 True to a point. The latest social mobility statistic was about 5% (pre-covid). Historically very large, but that means 95% of people will stay in their class. So a vast majority will not and have not broken out of their "class." So your claim is just false.
@@ColeHastings for that distinction to be relevant, we would need to accept that only 5% of x class group doesn't want to be in said group. Are only 5% of those in poverty want to leave it? Is only 5% of the working class wanting to be a millionaire? I doubt that is true.
I was born in 1996. My family has been doing traditional stuff since forever. We believe in shared family aesthetics and conditioning. Every time there’s a birthday, holiday, or other type of celebration my family is there. Most of us live within the same country, and some don’t. We go all the way just to be there for each other. We are still a very cultured family. Through good times and bad, my family is always there for each other.
I feel like gen z will look back in 20 years and just not have too many fond memories of their youth.. their teens just wasted away with doom scrolling for hours and hours on end.. self isolating and depressed.
It's strange. The more options become available, some of which were won politically through activism, the less the desire to avail ourselves of the increasing amount of choices because they seem Hobbes-ian in nature. "Freedom of choice is what you NEED, freedom FROM choice is what you WANT."- Old DEVO song
I realized ever since the 2010s and social media there is no main culture anymore that previous decades had
Globalization , internet and individualism do be banging the US
Agree, especially pop culture wise. The 2020s so far feel almost exactly like the 2010s.
I actually like the 2010’s
@@Dj.D25I disagree. 2020s are nothing like the 2020s. Pandemic, war and rapid advances in AI technology have led to the 2020s having a distinct culture.
I disagree. Back then kids from different nations would watch local tv shows and play traditional games. Now every kid is into Fortnite and Mr. Beast. I didn't say it was good culture. 😂
you know as a Gen Z I don't hate tradition. actually I like tradition but I cant afford that kind of lifestyle🥲 everything cost now😭
The price of traditionalism has been rising since the 70s. While wages have not.
I agree. many of us don't hate tradition at all, we merely realize that it isn't feasible economically or socially. we're in a time and situation where the traditional family and lifestyle are all but impossible unless you were born rich or find a way to gain the system young.
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There are costless traditions, like going to church and saying hi to people
Same dude
Maybe because Generation Z never experienced the benefits of tradition, as traditional life died decades ago when the world changed against having a single paycheque from a modest job running an entire household?
Gen Z constantly tells me how they are the most educated generation in all of human history so how is it possible that they do not know that Traditions are the Solutions to Long Forgotten Problems? How does the brightest and the smartest group of people ever to spring up out of the Earth - the very end of History, not realize any of this?
Tradition and culture didn't die with women going to work.
@@a.taylor8294he’s not saying that though. He’s referring to the affordability of housing and lifestyle off of one paycheck . He didn’t say anything about gender
In the 1980s, I knew one person who didn't have both parents working full time. So "having a single paycheck" I think is not related at all to losing traditions.
@@a.taylor8294
that's an odd takeaway from OP's message.
I'm 37 and I have 3 young daughters. It's easy to blame the generation that is Gen-Z because they are the ones who are not wanting structure. However, who are the parents of Gen-Z? It's Millennials and Gen-X. We are the generations to be blamed, not the ones who are kids. Make your kids have family dinner. Do crafts with your kids and get them off their phone. Every kid wants to get attention from their parents. After speaking with many parents, it's obvious that their kids are not the center of their lives. The few kids who have parents that are all in, do not need to resort to a screen because they feel lonely. Let's have some accountably as parents and not just blame the kids who are reaping the problems.
That's the most accurate explanation I've read so far
Did you watch the video before you commented?
I'm Gen Z.
In school my parents really put me and my twin before themselves. In hindsight I don't understand how they did so much. I struggle with the idea that I could ever be that selfless.
I've been told several times how jealous people were of me having such good parents. Its was honestly very very rare to meet kids whose parents were not divorced or whose parents were not physically or emotionally abusive or just emotionally unavailable.
I do honestly belive that tradition died decades ago with the Boomers. Maybe not all of em. But you can find so much historical information about how much the Boomers changed it all.
@@jayfreedman5186 Partially, I was laying out my own thoughts.
Thank you for improving the world. A huge amount of our social problems stem from a 51/49 split in sex of the baby. It is very important to have fewer sons and more daughters if you really are trying to make a better future for the children.
The young men of gen Z don't hate tradition, they hate that they can't afford that lifestyle with the terrible econony or find a partner that share the same values.
As far as the second one goes, I think that applies more to young conservative men of gen z. I had friends in high school that ended up becoming insanely conservative, alone, and bitter about it. Meanwhile I ended up becoming insanely progressive, have a girlfriend of multiple years, and I'm only annoyed at the constraints of the economy and housing market (and I'm smack dab in the middle of gen z)
@tatersalad76 yes conservative = traditions. That's the point. Idk what you do in a relationship today but it isn't the same anymore.
@@tatersalad76 I lean conservative and most of my progressive friends in relationships are cucks
@@tatersalad76 they say this generation is going to have serial killers like the boomers did , I'd guess a few of those guys are prime candidates. Many of the old school serial killers were embittered with society because they couldn't get what they want.
@@Tailionis love each other it's that simple I don't view my woman as a lesser or a subservient I view them as an equal who can do things just as good if not better than I can
The real clash in our culture is personal worth/value.
Our current culture tells us that personal worth is in things we own and tittles we hold.
Biologically, thing we value the most are our relationship with other humans.
But, that doesn't make our social elites any money.
I would say our true value is determine by looks more than what we have(but that is stil super valuable)
But that stil benefice the corporations bc an atractive individual could sponsor the company very well
I disagree entirely many ppl are realizing that looks don't matter in the long run for relationships and what it and are attempting to be happy @@pizza8725
@@pizza8725 Yeah, we're in a world where nothing is sacred and everything is for sale.
The system is set up by design to constantly show us 1% lifestyles, tell us if we don't have it we aren't working hard enough than make us go into debt trying to fulfill that fantasy...
So they divide us with scare tactics with films making males look like killers and monsters and woman run away, the logic thing to do, says the coperates
I am one from the Gen Z and im dying from inside everyday seeing my culture and Tradition dying and im doing whatever i can to keep it alive
@@boredhi3454 What culture and tradition are you talking about and what are you doing to keep it alive
What for?
If you ever have a traditional marriage
Don't let your wife stay at home all day unless you have children
That’s a very sad life goal. Move to the future!
I think you need to be more specific, because that comment makes you sound like a far right conservative.
Understanding the system is broken and has been developed to destroy the human spirit is your first observation to make
The second is your own complicity.
_"Thank you for your service."_
"What is liberty without wisdom, and without virtue? It is the greatest of all possible evils; for it is folly, vice and madness, without tuition or restraint."
- Edmund Burke
All dictatorships are less evil than the US (if your cis male scum). Saddam Hussein should have never been overthrown. We need to have a leader like Pol Pot to fix the nation.....or better yet...you can just become a girl through HRT stop complaining and experience the real west through the lens of a girl and realize that only men have it bad.
@@beingsshepherd My service left a whole lot more blood on my hands than that...
You aren't wrong but also there is a reason we are recruited young and dumb.
Social Media is the problem but it’s also that a lot us come from broken homes where mom and dad where divorce so there is no sense of family in us. Inflation everything is so damn expensive that instead of working towards a family we working towards our death basically, because the cost of living is so high we can’t afford a home we focus and ourselves, capital, and material things that don’t matter. We were tolded as kids that we can once we are adults we work hard and buy homes and start a family. But instead we are working hard and gain nothing
Divorce definitely causes problems. Marriages are meant to work out and not break over minor things.
The end of era is coming. And something new will born. I don't want to be born into this world. Wrong time, wrong place.
@@theboombody The problem is that when everyone wants to go really a lot for his or her individuality without anything that kits us together, that there is nothing to kit us together. If our demands from each other are getting skiy high whilst our wish to invest in the relationship gets to an all-time low, the relationship tends to break more easily. If all ties are seen as non-binding and fragile and living life to the maxx means living life without any compromise, no wonder marriages break down easily.
@@theboombody marriages are no more stable than any other relationship, people move on from partners and friends constantly in life, being stuck with someone forever is not an example of something working out
"Break over minor things".. you mean minor things like violence, disrespect, dominance, two people that hate each other stuck because they were dumb and horny in youth like the reproductive system designed, or maybe living an everyday hell because the other person is so inflexible that theres no solution beyond going their way? With the exception of the early pregnancy, the other things i described used to be in some way reinforced by the tradicional values of before, just think about ig
I hear Gen Z use Nietzche's line "God is dead" as a celebration, not realizing it was spoken as a warning just as much. With complete freedom from tradition, that means exile to a desert where you'll really have no idea where to go next
If we complement this with Nietzsche's theory about the Übermench, he suggested that the desert that people are thrown into after "killing God" because he limited their potential should be just a transitory pilgrimage in which human beings would take advantage to forge a better version of himself and thus overcome the abusive God with a new perspective on life.
However, it is easy to see that not all people can have the necessary wisdom to understand this and, either they embrace pessimistic fatalism or they become totalitarians because they have embraced the idea of the Übermench too much,
i dont need to know where to go, i just wanna live as long as possible and be with my loved ones... i dont need anything else
For Nietzsche a world where God is "alive" is just as mediocre, the death of God gave men the possibility to be their actual self
@@jktech2117strive for more from life don’t roll over with your tail between your legs
@@lucacuradossi1040 Yeah, and that self chose the path of least resistance and self-destruction.
As a Gen z person , when I was younger I was completely against tradition, but as I got older and learned more I realized that tradition is often times (not all the time) a good thing for society and I have a new found respect for it , and I also realized the lack of it is one of the main causes for why things are the way they are today. I don’t believe we are able to go back completely to traditional ways, but I do believe that living a life that at least resembles traditionalism with a few adjustment’s to fit the modern day is definitely possible.
That´s often the way for people, as you leave youthful rebellion you start valuing a lot of traditions.
Yeah same for me, the more I got older and the more I learned about the world. The more I realized I am an idiot and the past (before industrialization) was correct in many ways about human nature, we aren't perfectible, we are essentially monkeys with a bit more brain cells, and culture is an attempt to keep the natural instincts in control, progress is not inevitable you need an incentive for it, a good healthy religion keeps society functioning, there are differences between men and women, and if you believe that your just asking to destroy your people.
All I know is that the modern ruling elite and system requires people to reject their ancestors and their stories to make them willing to work in a factory for 8 hours a day or sit in an office for 8 Hours a day for the rest of their life, for very little gain, while lying about well everything about reality which is starting to quiet literally break at its seams as the more they try to keep the illusion of progress up and everything they claim to be true. The more they say unemployment is good, the more they say their managerial class is good, the more they say the science supports their claims when really it starting to go against it, the more they say the past doesn't matter and isn't important even when we are matching the development cycle of a dozen other major civilizations, with the Roman Republic experiencing massive social issues and economic problems becoming an Empire. Babylon having a Feminist movement, decreasing fertility rates of the native Greek populations in the axial age, the Weimar republic having all the same or similar issues, changes, and movements as does the west have today.
The more one would realize we're reaching the end of a cycle, which the founding fathers predicted would happen after simply looking at history and realizing that if every major civilization does this in their history and starts to decline their work too will go through this. We aren't unique at all we're just at a different scale and technological development than the ones before.
Tradition lies in the family, and where there is no family, there is no tradition. People can’t afford families anymore. So tradition dies with that.
Servants understand that the master will never allow them to sit at the same table.
1. Why would a slave revolt against its master if the slave has no vision of a future without its master?
2. Why would the working class revolt against the putrid elites if the working class believes it will be lost without an elite?
Secular society demonstrates the same sickness of the late, decadent, and rotten Roman empire: government patternalism, excessive materialism, hive minds, and rulership by the rich men.
"What is liberty without wisdom, and without virtue? It is the greatest of all possible evils; for it is folly, vice and madness, without tuition or restraint."
- Edmund Burke
But if the servants were to ever burn the table down then the master wouldn't have a table to sit at either
They have no money. Traditional consumer culture requires disposable income. 60% of jobs don't provide disposable income.
consoomer culture is anything but traditional. what a ridiculous notion.
@@sakamotosan1887 For the developed world it is our tradition imo. It's forced.
It's about family, Americans overcomplicate everything.
Most young people wouldn't like been their stereotypical dad or mom
@@sakamotosan1887Dating? That requires money. Vacation? Money. Housing? Money. Social hobbies? Money. EVERYTHING requires money.
@@sakamotosan1887The entirety of America is about consuming things we produce or stealing others stuff from them. Look up the concept of imperialism.
Before watching the video, lemme say this: the more untrustworthy politicians & people in positions of authority are, the less people will buy in to old traditional norms.
What traditional norms are you talking about?
Which historical period ?
Can you explain this further
@@ColeHastings traditional roles assigned for each gender to succeed in society has become vastly more difficult to sustain. This is not an attack on feminism & women being active participants in a capitalist market though.
However, what can be said is that the labor it took and the level of education it took to live an affluent life back then is much harder to sustain now. The cost of living is through the roof. Politicians are too busy attacking the other party to provide adequate funding, and view many people as disposable. So people have just given up on old school traditional teachings/“The American Dream” etc.
An interesting point!
As a Korean, I think that most of Korea's traditional culture has disappeared. However, I don't think it's entirely bad, as many of these traditions were often rooted in misogyny or superstition. But as these traditions faded, a sense of loneliness has begun to fill the void, and people who have lost their way in the absence of these values are now replacing them with political propaganda and one-minute videos on social media. Now, everyone is lost, and everyone feels deeply lonely.
I believe it's time to recreate warmth and a sense of human connection that fits the present era
I loved Christmas time as a kid. Two weeks off from school, Jinglebell rock playing while my mom was baking cookies down stairs with snow falling outside, waking up early and unwrapping my Xbox 360 on Christmas Day. It sounds super generic, but it’s true. Now it just feels like another Tuesday. Everyone off doing their own thing, staying really disconnected and as corny as it may sound, not getting together as friends and family. It’s really depressing. I occasionally get sprinkled moments that remind me of the “good old days” and how much better they were. Individualism comes with pros and cons, and this is a major con for me.
Why are you not inviting friends and family to come over and each of them to bring some food? Why do people complain and do not try to start new traditions? Are we all becoming helpless babies because of the internet?
Christmas depression is actually more common that you think, there is actually a term for it as Christmas Blues. Don't hear the previous comment maybe you live away from your family and many people already have plans for that date or are not exactly so close to you to ask that. What my sister did when she lived alone outside our home country is to go to public events that celebrate Christmas. You can go there for celebration maybe for your own and maybe you will find also people like you that want to hangout with people in Christmas nun. It helped a lot my sister, maybe it could help you too
@@YvonneHoerde You say this as if people are just stupid idiots who can't think for themselves and all they need to do is wake up and smell the roses. Observe what is happening and try to figure out why, rather than just judge people for not doing what you think they should do. Why is there an epidemic of depression nowadays? Why are we so alienated and isolated? Why would we rather be alone with our screens rather than be with one another? It's one thing to observe this, it's another to ask why this is the case. Everything has a cause.
We humans are very easily addicted to simple pleasures that require no commitment or effort. Thus, the screen addictions. This is a problem though. It's a problem with no easy solution. What are we to do? Abandon all technology? Clearly something has to be done, or something is going to collapse. A breaking point is going to be reached. But addictions aren't so easily overcome. It's one thing to tell people to invite friends and family over and it's another to actually make that kind of thing happen on a large scale. We all have to cooperate with one another or nothing happens. But just like a two party voting system forces people to choose between two candidates they hate, it can't change because everyone thinks that if they don't participate in the two party system then their vote doesn't count. When everyone is on social media, then excluding yourself from that is to exclude yourself from society. There are no easy solutions.
Your questions are naive.
Agreed.
Because the basic unit of society is not the individual, but the family.
The trick is to understand the importance and necessity of old culture, accept the privilege of the modern era, and through an open mind utilizing not blind hope in science, but an open view of the scientific method.
When you choose to follow the scientific method without bias and an open mind the entire world becomes more clear
Not going to lie, that is good thinking
"Extraordinariy claims require extraordinary evidence", as Carl Sagan once said. This not only denotes that Sagan could even have his feet firmly in reality, but he still deep down allowed himself to be open to the extraordinary if that one day occurred.
I was thinking similarly today. Unfortunately it’s lofty to expect everyone to be able to develop that appreciation, and I realized this after spending the entire day at a theme park
Ideally yes. Problem is almost no one spends time to learn about said methods, culture, or traditions anymore. All most people seem to care about is entertainment and scrolling through meaningless content.
U wanna know why tradition is no longer respected? You live in the information age where young people can learn all they want about crackhead ideologies like you know whodaism.
Its also the fact that we live in the US or any 1st world country, if you're from a 3rd world country, everything is more put together culturally. Technology is more widely available in the US which separates and makes everyone focus on their daily routines/tasks that involve their technology rather than their tradition (such as praying, going to church, attending any form of traditional social gathering, etc).
Yeah I do think the more advanced a society is, the harder it is for them to not become more individualistic
A lot of us don't want anything to do with the past, religion, or traditions. We just want to be left alone! The past wasn't great for a lot of us. And seeing all of the abusers in the church males it easy to stay away!
@ColeHastings THE REAL reason is because of white people. White Western culture was created to homogenize European migrants against black and brown people so what you see today is Western homogenization: staying chronically online, antisocial entitled behavior, consumerism, maintaining a Class systems instead of practicing religious or spiritual generosity like Africans or Indigenous or Asian or Latin folk. Capitalism is about gaining more and never being satisfied with what you have.
I would say a bigger issue is that so much of tradition today is monetised...everything has to be a hustle, entrepreneurial, cost a bunch of money and be heavily marketed.
People are tired of traditions becoming a capitalist event to sell shit rather than just be a community. Move away from that and new traditions will arise and some old ones emerge and evolve.
@@kaybrown7733 If you are left alone, you get lonely. And loneliness is the pandemic of the West of today.
People are defying tradition because they are mocked by the fact that times were easier, or simpler.... and they did not have a choice. the 1 to 1 outcome of work hard, get compensated was much more likely to work. We wouldn't have these breaches of tradition if the process to finding a decent job, getting married, creating a family, having unity in your community, was as straightforward as it used to be. Our worlds have expanded well beyond the horizons of what an animal is supposed to keep track of, and its damaging our ability to maintain a social continuity.
Yes. Work has become worthless now since inflation and late stage capitalism.
Exactly, we were told all these things growing up, that if we went to college we would be set up great, an end game, but no. Home prices out of control and everything else is out of reach. Dating is freaking terrible so all those potential partners(females) end up trying to reach the more richer folk. We tried we really did, and now that we ignore them they get angry. Housing market will crash pretty soon so I’m looking forward to seeing those house hoarders cry about it.
When i was 11 i realized the christmas feeling felt less and less every year its so sad
It’s not that they don’t want it, it’s that they’re realizing how unobtainable it has become for most people, and it’s breeding a large amount of resentment and downright bitterness.
When the Simpsons first aired on TV, Homer was considered a loser. In 2024 a family of five being supported by a single income earner with a stay home mom AND two vehicles to boot, puts you in the highest echelons of society.
Cole,
In all honesty, I believe that tradition is meant for a selective few. Personally, I don't consider myself traditional. However, after hearing so many stories from different perspectives and considering various ethical standpoints, I understand why many people choose to distance themselves from traditions. It feels like everyone is tired of being confined to a single box, expected to adhere to traditions that don't resonate with who we are. Like many others, I want to move beyond those expectations and live life on my own terms, doing what feels right for me before it's too late.
Im glad you've come to your own conclusions. The difficulty after that is creating a society that allows everyone to live life how they want to, where everyone also gets along. We're still figuring that part out.
"traditions that don't resonate with who we are", community and sharing happiness on christmas doesn't resonate with you? what does?
everyone has their preferences but some things i believe are objectively true, and traditional community is one of them. it's a NEED for humans to live to the fullest. tradition/culture isn't a locked box you can't escape, not anymore. This isn't the 1600s
Tradition and spirituality is the expression of culture, eliminating tradition or spirituality, is like stripping a country of its purpose or individuality, your in essence getting rid of its culture, which leads to the death of purpose and morality, and the extinguishing of a people’s National identity. Life is only special when you serve others, living life in an individualistic way, is one of the most degenerate ways to live, preserving culture, is like preserving the unity, and purpose, and identity of your people
It’s definitely tricky to figure out how everyone can live the way they want and still get along, but I’m hopeful we’ll get there. It’s all about working together and finding common ground.
@@EmilyCarter-d1b I appreciate your perspective and where you're coming from. We all find meaning in different ways, and what resonates deeply with one person might not have the same effect on another. For me, it's not about rejecting tradition or community outright but about finding what truly speaks to who I am. While some find joy and fulfillment in traditional gatherings like Christmas, others might connect with different experiences or create new traditions that reflect their personal journey.
I believe that each of us has our own path, and it's important to respect that individuality. Community is indeed essential, but how we define and engage with it can vary. Some might find their sense of belonging in traditional settings, while others might discover it elsewhere. It's all about what makes us feel most alive and authentic.
In the end, it's all about embracing what makes us whole, whether that's through tradition or carving out new ways to connect.
“Culture” has a huge meaning- modern culture is often a fake product of marketing and consumerism- people use nostalgia to gloss over the truth of their past
I grew up in the 1960’s and 70’s in the suburbs of New York City. Life was better and more free back then. There were fewer laws and no political correctness/wokeism. People were better, too. They were more gracious. I used to hitchhike everywhere. Try doing that today!
Yep and there were serial killers like Ted Bundy who loved picking up hitchhikers
im gen z and i dont hate tradition, if anything i hate globalism and this modern distopia we are living in, but even then is more dissapointment than anything
I wish I grew up in the 1950’s, my life would be set up for me and I wouldn’t have access to information about other people’s everyday lives and traditions around the world that would make me question my life and become jealous.
Even the 90s and 2000s were much simpler. Around 2012 I've felt a huge shift in our values and mindsets, like a switch was flipped overnight.
What a sad pathetic worldview
No you don’t
Been illiterate is nothing to wish for even if I agree that we compare more today than when magazines and TV were mainly source of entertainment
@@Sethdaknowledgeseeker You must have been comatose throughout Iraq.
I personally think what’s killing Christmas is that is so corporate and stores are all about making money and we’ve gotten away from the traditions. These stores nowadays are pushing Christmas stuff in the middle of October before Halloween or Thanksgiving.
Charlie Brown ironically pretty much made the same argument back in the 60's. That said I see Christmas stuff out in August now! I'm actually often times sick of Christmas by Thanksgiving.
I think financial restraint is a big reason why traditions aren't being upheld the way they used to be.
In my family, every year before a birthday or other occasion, there were always heated arguments about how much it would cost to prepare and how much was spent on celebrating after. Ruins the fun.
"the death of culture" and it's just people enjoying cultural things others deem not culturally significant.
this dont have enough likes, im furry and i hate that furries themselves dont consider us a culture even tho we have millions of peoples, we are not really a fandom because what are we fan of? what work are we overfocused on? none.. we have a huge diversity inside the fandom and lots of art from music to now even animations and games and lots of subsections like scalies and robots and monsters and many others.
but furries still rather the old definition from when we were a few hundred instead of millions.
furries interact and even marry other furries way way more than whos not a furry, this is because we fit with others like us more and this happens WITH CULTURES.
we literally first interact with others thinking of them as their fursonas and stuff as if this was really the person and many do act like that, so how... how... how is it still just a fandom?
theres many cultures around the world that are considered only as subcultures or a hobby.
@@jktech2117I would agree that furry culture is a culture but I think what he was referring to is "brain rot culture". Brain Rot is basically anti-culture.
@@jktech2117You are a disgusting fetish. Nothing more.
The problem when it completely eradicates some fundamental values.
@@OPSECHero well some values should be kept not bcuz a book said but because is just right, like not stealing or killing or hating and some other stuff.
I saw a quote that sums up my thoughts about how important tradition is: Tradition isn’t worshipping the cold dead ashes, it’s preserving the life giving fire.
Of course there’s some traditions that need to die (female circumcision for example). But for the most part, traditions exist for a reason.
Kind of a weak argument
Just goes to show you can convince some people of anything, if it can be framed in a catchy slogan.
"Most traditions exist for a reason."
Then they can each be rationally defended and don't need "traditionalism" to keep them alive.
@@andrewhooper7603I don’t know if traditions which hold a purely social or ceremonial purpose and don’t claim anything need to be “rationally defended” any more than culture itself
The usa the country that mutilated young boys
Yes because men getting their dicks cut up is normal, status quo circumcision and should stay around. You're just another idiot who can't see past their own nose.
The sheer hard work and dedication you have put in every video is truly remarkable. Keep up the good work my friend :) this is one of the best channels.
As an older person ( I just turned 50) I'm grateful I grew up in a time with some amount of tradition. Not all of it was good, but at least it allowed me to have some baseline or grounding from which to work. it allowed me to formulate a personality, have a strong sense of self, also to figure out my version of truth and grow into a cohesive, consistent human being with opinions, personal values that I live by. The feeling I get from younger people is that they are so busy questioning everything, they have a hard time functioning in society. Running from one cause to another, trying to find a reason to exist. If we are trying to build a house and we can't even agree on how to define what a house looks like...is it a cave? Should it be under water? should it be floating in the sky? We will never accomplish the goal. Younger people should look for mentors that are strongly grounded but still forward looking, disciplined and not chaotic and able to to articulate strong values to live by that make sense. Instead they seem to be looking to each other on social media for answers, people who are just as confused and inexperienced as they are.
The problem is that life is changing faster and faster. It seems like yesterday I had a line phone. Now, we have to worry about AI taking our jobs. That makes it difficult to value and. estimate the experiences of the older people which once were called wisdom, earned hard by the experience of life. Today, often young people are better and faster with new technology. But technology is not everything.Technology can solve some problems but also be part of others....
They look on social media because msm is all c0rp narrative propaganda now
I’m 16 here and have a few things I want to say. In my opinion, the fall of traditions is resulting from the declining value of family. The way most traditions can go on for generations unchanging is within folk cultures, where people live relatively isolated from each other, often in rural areas, and family roles are emphasized. In contrast, popular culture diffuses extremely quickly and changes rapidly. The internet has resulted in the significant growth of popular culture.
If I asked my peers what their life ambitions were, I’m not confident many of them would tell me they simply wish to raise kids in a family. I wouldn’t say that either. I guess right now, I really care a lot about my academic life and online communities which I am a part of. Maybe spending too much time on the internet and studying rather than being with my family are causing family values to disappear. I won’t deny that young people today, myself included, probably spend more time on the internet than is healthy and choose to socialize online more and in person less. For me, it’s easier to find people with the same interests as myself, every game its own forum or discord server full of people wanting to talk to you about the exact same topic that you do. I also find online discussion far easier, but that might be partially the result of my autism.
It’s also sad to see how many people my age are the victims of one form of addiction or another, whether it’s a substance, a form of media, or anything else, it’s plainly not healthy and takes away our time and energy. I no doubt have an addiction to videogames and probably academics too, but other people can be addicted to far worse things. These addictions tend to lead people away from caring about their families along with the rest of their lives.
So yes, I do think young people today don’t live by the value of family like our parents did. I think it’s hard for us to pick values when we have a hard time justifying them. I find it difficult how so many people are able to hold such strong beliefs in their religions when so much of those beliefs can’t be supported by observation. The idea of simply starting a family and spending most of my life with an office job just isn’t very fulfilling to me.
I can’t say for sure what other people live by, but my personal philosophy is that I should do everything to improve the state of our people as a whole as much as possible, as that is all that will remain once I have left this planet. I spend most of my time continuing to educate myself, find entertainment, and supporting the communities which I am passionate about. However, I understand that I am still learning and my values may change as I learn more and develop better thinking and self control.
They look to social media for answers because msm tells them everything is FANTASTIC best economy EVAH and they don't see. Feel, or find that anywhere they go and are all realizing everything is a giant lie.
That's why theyre promoting so much sense sore ship everywhere too now....they don't want plebs discussing reality with other plebs, they want us all to drink the msm Kool aid.
As a 65 I wish I had the young body of a 50 year old. :(
I’m a member of Gen Z and you put sentiments that I’ve been feeling for awhile into words.
You always have in-depth intelligent videos, and I always look forward to them.
Thank you 🙌🙌🙌
the problem everyone hates to acknoweldge is that those traditions were demanded to be respected, everyone gets angry that gen z doesn't want to be part of it, and that's why they don't want to be part of it, because you are angry, traditions can only earn respect not demand it, if someone don't wanna play that game, don't pressure and guilt trip them into playing it or they will hate it
Well, people are pressured when they work jobs, and they do hate them, but they still got to do them.
@@theboombodyever heard of churn? The term usually applies to streaming services, but it could also easily apply to jobs. Burnout causes churn. And burnout is also a part of life. I hope you enjoy your burnout when it starts to catch up to you...
@@aiodensghost8645 Working 40 hours a week in an office isn't going to burn me out. Hasn't done so for 17 years. Now working 60 plus hours in an office a week, yeah, that would burn me out. But some of these folks think 40 hours a week is unfair and brutally abusive. I don't understand why. Didn't they have to do 40 hours a week of studying when they were in school? I did.
@@theboombodywho do you think you are? Nobody’s gonna pressure us into following obsolete bs just because you think that “Well you may dislike it, but you gotta do it” eff off…
@@theboombodyslaves were also forced to work in fields that they didn't like. Maybe you don't know this, but forcing people is not a good thing
Even people living in tradition hated tradition, shiny on the outside, but fabricated with extreme idealism. If the way people were living was something that they valued they wouldn't of let go of it so aggressively. The children growing up in 50's households became so disenfranchised with life their life's ambition was to go be high out of their minds in random fields in the 60's. Alot of injustice and abuse happening behind closed doors with no social outlet to talk about it, just keep up appearances.
Tradition is just peer pressure from dead people. Everything can and must be vetted.
If a tradition cannot juatify itself, its value, and why it's worth your time in the current age then it's not worth practicing. Document it somewhere for posterity and engage with something more fulfilling. Make a new relevant tradition until people who know better create something better. The answer is to march forward, not retreating to the comfort of your mother's womb like some lost child.
Total freedom
from tradition is the freedom of a baby left alone on a sidewalk. The freedom to wither and waste away stupidly.
Just because some traditions are unworthy, doesn't mean all of them are. Total rejection of traditions just for sake of rejection is silly.
@@igors1234 That's by no means what he said. He's saying not to value traditions because their traditions
"There is nothing new under the sun"- Wise King Soloman. If you don't listen to the lessons of the past you are bound to repeat them. You think you're special like every other arrogant godless individual.
@@cowyemrsox I feel like rejection of certain traditions comes as a direct result of learning the lessons of the past and refusing to complete them
We don't dislike culture we basically have are own.
*our. Spelling is hard for low IQ individuals.
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Bro is shaming a person for making mistakes, what a counterproductive person.
@@suruxstrawde8322 you must have an IQ below 70. Defensive, much?
@@Anonymous-wb3nz I don't understand what's your problem. Grammar mistake is so irrelevant here. It could be autocorrect, miss lick, maybe English is not his first language, or maybe he just didn't care. But even so, correcting people on grammar doesn't make you smart or productive. It's just you being weird.
@@valentynvorobec7834 spoken like someone with an IQ below 70.
I miss it so much, life is so empty without it because with tradition comes community
Or you can start living for yourself as an individual
@@BrookpitlikI have tired living my life that way, all it left me with was chronic loneliness and depression. Since i found the community I'm in and follow their traditions (even if some don't make any sense) I am finally happy again. It might work for you, but not most people, even introverts like myself.
@@Astrolavey living for yourself doesn’t mean isolating yourself from the world. You can get along with all kinds of communities without necessarily subscribing to their believe system, especially if that believe system can be harmful often times.
Living for yourself simply means having your own set of rules and values and not being a sheep.
@@Brookpitlik I get along well with those that don't share my beliefs as well. It's just most people in my life that tried to live as an individual were depressed or narcissistic people like I was. Our minds still think in the same tribal sense as those over 200,000 years ago. Humans need a tribe to stick too that shares their values and traditions or they will be miserable. You might be an exception but again, most people can't live a healthy life like that from my experience.
@@Astrolavey true
I’m one from gen Z and I still like traditional stuff especially since I am from a warrior tribe in Nigeria so gotta keep up with that
Nah that’s tuff you for sure have amazing bodybuilding genetics
@@MannyW1ck I do
your genetics are probably insane
I haven't watched the whole video yet but lemme say this:
Traditions were originally meant to preserve the social order, putting pressure into individuals to achieve what is "expected by society", governments also purposely shaped the "culture" to achieve this. Basically traditions bullied people into following societal norms(check Japan's or South Korea social crisis nowadays for reference of how bad that is nowadays). Nowadays is way harder to lie to everyone thanks to the internet. Plus the propaganda around recovering the traditions and religions lays around the promise of bringing back the "good old days", the problem isn't indivualism or liberalism, the problem is this corporative capitalism wich keeps most people miserable and some of them slaves of their debts, living paycheck to paycheck with no foreseeable improvement, the problem isn't a crisis of faith or tradition, the problem is a crisis of hope
You say that the problem is a crisis of hope, but what exactly is it that faith provides? Is it not the very hope that you seek?
@@lucasgonzalez9668it does provide hope, but not the one we need. Is like putting a bandage in a giant wound and "hope" everything will be ok, when what we actually need is to heal the giant wound, and then, we can hope everything will be ok. Is the equivalent of having the Damocles sword above your head, but they say, "if you don't look there, it isn't there"
down with capitalism!!!!
@@lucasgonzalez9668 it does provide hope, but not the one we need. Is like putting a bandage in a giant wound and "hope" everything will be ok, when what we actually need is to heal the giant wound, and then, we can hope everything will be ok. Is the equivalent of having the Damocles sword above your head, but they say, "if you don't look there, it isn't there"
When the elites own 95% of the wealth in the US while the poor gets poorer, remember the Boston tea party that was over a 3.5% tax. NOW taxes have gone up 200%! This is oppression, but the men wont stand up they're weak.@@lucasgonzalez9668
As a Gen Xer (1977) I'm going to put out my own hypothesis. In the past, tradition was seen as a glue that kept families and societies together (eg. church, working 9-5 or making sure you 'married the right person and had kids' so the apple cart wasnt upset). They were propagated and reinforced over many generations, using ostracization and even direct coercion as means to their end. When we asked our parents or grandparents why people acted as they did, we were told "That's the way it's always been" or "You can't judge a time you didn't live in". Well, guess what. As my generation ( followed my millennials and then Gen Z) started taking advantage of modern technology and doing some basic research, we started asking the questions...Why did it have to be that way? Did it make their lives better? Do you feel you would have fared worse if your predecessors went down a different path? Is tradition for its own sake truly constructive, or are you relying on it as an insular refuge in order to minimize you internal discomfort and cognitive dissonance? "Because we (or they} said so" doesn't cut it anymore.
I'm from a small town, its still like this (for the most part). The only difference is the internet allows everyone to do their shopping online, which has resulted in the nearby mall and stores going out of business. BUT, we still have local fairs/circus/carnivals that happen ever so often...a lot of people attend church services...it still has the community vibe and everyone looking out for each other. Major reason why me and my wife move back, to be closer to friends and family. Bigger communities, its pretty easy to lose yourself and not feel like your part of it at all.
They hate it because they can’t attain it.
Elaborate
I had to laugh because as someone who grew up the 80s the Pillsbury tube cookies were anathema to tradition. Cause, you always had a ton home baked cookies and pies at home. Everybody had a mix of traditional recipes and a few new things every year. It was making the cookies.. not eating them.
There has been more mono-cultural since the late 90s and it started before everybody was on social media. It started with Clear Channel owning the air waves and cable dominating the television dial. As with the Pillsbury tube cookies so much of our culture was turned into these easy to use consumerist commodities. Our holidays are turned into sales events Christmas is essentially bookends for the biggest consumerist events of the year.
It's no wonder Zoomer feels like they can't afford tradition.They've never learned how to experience tradition without buying it at the store
I'll add this. So another thing I will say as a Gen-X and this probably affected Millennials a lot more, is that tradition was often weaponized against progress, in particular progress in LGBT acceptance. There was often pressure to conform for the benefit of a stubbornly old-fashioned matriarch or patriarch. I think you'll find a lot of people from my generation and the one that follow very begrudgingly participated until they didn't have to.
Tradition can be rather expensive & time-consuming to uphold. People in "first world" countries won't bother to uphold it if they know it can't realistically fit their lifestyle.
Yeah, people in 'first' world countries can't be bothered to do anything except gratify their hedonistic desires.
As society becomes more lonely and more families are broken, all these social activities will become less and less.
I don’t think my generation hates tradition as many still try. The main issue is that we’ve been raised in an environment where what you do for work defines how worthwhile you are. If you aren’t being “productive” you’re being lazy. That doesn’t leave much mental energy to maintain friend groups and traditions. I know most people my age enjoy the traditions we participated in as kids but with little time, money being tight, and a severe lack of places to really meet people outside of school or work, most end up without a core group to spend time with/participate in traditions with. My group does Easter egg hunts, game/movie nights, a Friendsgiving, and a huge white elephant every year. When new people join the group it’s always something they comment loving about it. My generation wants community and does like traditions but the modern environment doesn’t nurture that.
Going back has never fixed anything, we're not going back
More accurately, you can't go back (or forward).
@@SC-gw8np explain?
When you are lost, sometimes you have to retrace your steps to find your way back to the path.
@@Memyselfandi59057 oh yeah, let's retrace back to the land of discrimination and hate, that way we can get back on this "right path", the path of self destructive prejudice and a false promise of freedom only gifted to those who affirm and align to every previous tradition and social standard, because FUCK social progress, personal freedom, and happiness right???!!
TLDR: fuck u dumbass, get a time machine or move to Russia/a third world country if you miss the oppressive world from the past, and take everyone like you with you because you will not be missed.
Alright a bit harsh lol, but you got my point ~w~
@@Memyselfandi59057Oh, I see, we must reject the social progress we have made and travel ourselves back to the America we left behind for good reason. We must roll back the clock to the self destructive, prejudice, and hateful America where personal freedom was laughed upon in the land of the "free" and anyone who didn't align with social norms and traditions were shunned and discarded because no one could find value on anyone or anything that didn't directly agree with them(selves). I see that your telling me the way we should go here is to backtrack to the "right path" where people who were different or too weak were living in constant oppression and fear for their lives everyday, and many individuals never found safety or solitude in the land where "Everyman was created equal"? We should definitely go back to the downright cruel and harsh times of hypocrisy and hate because fuck social progress, personal freedom, and the right to exist and be respected no matter what, right??? Who needs that anyways!! You clearly don't because you don't understand how fucking privileged you are when you can sit there and act like you have a fucking right to strip away hard earned rights from those who deserve it as much if not more than your selfish ass just because you don't like how everyone isn't a carbon fucking copy of yourself.
TLDR: fuck you selfish asshole, go to fucking Russia/a 3rd world country or get a time machine if you want to go back to the hateful prejudice America that once reined, and whilst your at it, take all the people who agree with you! Because this society has no room or time for someone as simple minded and self serving as you, you will not be missed and don't even begin with anymore bullshit.
Sorry I was a bit harsh, but I really wanted to get my point across and in sick and fucking tired of this level of entitlement paired with fucking ignorance, obviously every generation ever will have bias about the previous and following generations, and the fact of how little you recognize this already shows me how misinformed you are.
Now go live your ass in your own life and leave other people to theirs,
aka MIND YOUR OWN DAMN BUSINESS
I think tradition dies the more knowledge people have. I mean people believed in slavery in America once but now we don’t because we are knowledgeable about screwed up and inhumane that is. Tradition doesn’t always mean correct
Slavery isn’t exactly a ‘tradition.’ It’s an aspect of the world that has become greatly diminished in developed nations.
@@lucasgonzalez9668 I’m not sure if you know the actual definition of the term tradition. Slavery was literally a norm of society at one point and legal. Those are all things that classify as something that was a tradition. Gathering around the fire for Christmas gift opening is not the only thing that can be a tradition…tradition is something that was the norm, old fashioned , the standard , the regular. Those are all words that mean TRADITION
@@tlow1256 So is war a tradition? Is poverty a tradition? Is dying of disease a tradition? I wouldn’t classify them as such, but, like slavery, would classify them as aspects of the world.
@@lucasgonzalez9668 as I said learn the definition of the word traditional
Neither does ‘progress’. It’s best to utilize critical thinking and find what work in terms of societally than individually and not swinging towards either extremes.
Personaly for me, absence of traditional values also comes from the fact that my parents used to be broke when I was born. Their habits were all about saving money and gaining the ones, so all traditions were set back for the sake of surviving.
Also we are multicultural family (my father is Kazakh, and mum half Tatar and Mordovian) that lives in a central city were culture is not the case as itself. Most people here are just building their own life not dependent on ancestors, a lot of us just don't have one after all terrible things that happened after the Soviet Union collapsed.
So no subjective and objective traditions, adding social media that were the only source of warmth, comfort and hope when I was a kid, formed a strong belief in me that nothing from the past matters if it doesn't benefit the present.
People have been hurt by people they trust, who does bad things under the guise of being helpful. Instead of attacking the individual, they attack the culture. Living in spite of. Literally 🔥 village to feel its warmth.
What do you think guides people? Many people I see act like sheep, never stepping outside of what culture tells them. The news and ads tell you what to believe and buy. Social media tells you what to value. Many people don't deviate from this.
Maybe the village should work together and set up some fire suppressant systems so that way that there's no fire that can take out the whole village. Oh wait that's too much work and you'd rather blame the person that you've hurt OK...
12:01 as a person struggling in what to believe in or if there is a reason to the universe, i relate to this so much!
I think something that was missed is that a lot of culture is deeply rooted in racism, misogyny, or religion. And as the world grows more respectful and less religious people over time reject those traditions, sometimes replacing it with something similar, and sometimes abandoning it all together.
We just replaced mysogny with misandry in today’s feminism I don’t respect them for a reason. I support them when they say pro choice but when they shit on families you might as well call me a conservative they don’t even know what they wantz
Absolutely not. Many cultures already were there before they came across other races so. Those that say that completely misunderstand history. Misogyny was not orginally part of it neither. That just grow that way in society that men were dominating. This after the big disaster on this planet is because of survival and fear.
I enjoy traditions as a Millennial, but I believe there is always room to experiment and try new things out. The issue is that Gen Z simply hates everything, their entire personalities are rooted in complaining and looking for conflict when there isn't any.
Even though I'm Gen Z, I love traditions. Sadly my family isn't very fond of each other and yes, technology is now taking over which is making us more disconnected
I don’t see there being time to develop culture. We are working more now than at any point in history. Hunter gathers works 3-5 hours a day. 1800s had 12 hour work days but only 1 person in a couple worked. Now? Well a family will be putting in a full 80 hours (and frequently more). When subsistence requires a 24/7/365 grind… well the fluff (or more accurate, the work is do the fluff, takes a back seat)
Indeed
I've talked to people who were alive in the 1950s. The ones who were kids then were nostalgic for the time, but most of the adults had issues with alcohol, gambling, & substance abuse, & say that the families depicted on TV shows at the time were idealistic propaganda. Any woman from that time who identifies,as,a republican is a victim of lifelong grooming & gaslighting.
Pretty much this
Exactly
From Nigeria and yes tradition is kinda slowly dying as people no longer have interest in them. Which isn’t a bad thing I guess
Interesting how more people from African countries are still doing traditional stuff
@@NoshikiYT yeah, but most teens I’ll say like 70% or so don’t practice traditional stuff anymore lol we aren’t interested in all aspects of our own tradition since we’re more interested in life outside our country (mainly America) or just me
If thinking about the subject in the narrow sense then the answer is simple. Today's kids can and do opt out of traditional activities while previous generations couldn't. When I was a kid and there was a holiday I couldn't opt out. There was no internet and choise of media to consume except books. I had TV but all available channels had content related to it. I could play single player video games on the PC (often unrealistic 2D ones) but that was equivalent to playing alone with toys and I had to participate in activities, there was nothing more interesting to do anyway.
Today's kids (and Zoomers in general) can select what media they see or disappear into the virtual worlds of MMO games or other multiplayer activities. Everyone in gen Z had fast internet access (one that allowed video streaming) before the age of 10, I had such access at the age of 23.
You guys remember trick or treating? It was glorious in my day 😢
That's an American import In my country although more popular still is quite irrelevant we have pumpkin carving contests,same with black Friday it only became a thing here when was basically dd in the states and is a time for bogus discounts😂
Last December I went with my girlfriend to the Mall because before the "scary virus" we used to love going to see the Christmas decorations and the songs and once the "scary virus" disappeared we returned to the mall during December and they felt souless, there was no music, the decorations were seriously lazy and bad and every Christmas since the "Scary Virus" has felt like a hassle and I don´t even feel like celebrating them. If it wasn´t for my girlfriend who loves Christmas, I wouldn´t even celebrate them anymore. They feel like they are more like an obligation, specially because I have to have my extended family over who can be... particular. I just want to relax at home, but NOOOO, I have to act like I care about my extended family who I only see during Christmas.
Another thing is we have no obligation to practice them, the only reason we thought we liked it is because our parents told us to like them
If you want to celebrate traditions that probably started by death or somebody suffering then be my guest
The death of holiday traditions make me so sad. I’m 23 now, but growing up I remember looking forward to the holiday season all year because it was such a magical and fun time. I can accept that those years for me are mostly gone now since I’m an adult, but I feel so sad for gen alpha and the future generations that don’t seem to be experiencing all those magical moments
Don't worry, they can pray to Taylor Swift for those moments.
Huh? Holidays are still being celebrated so I'm not sure what you're talking about.
@@user-ss9wg2yq3o They are but just not in the same way and it seems like the magic is gone. Kids don’t believe in Santa anymore lol
@@JackHagar If you believed in Santa you were always an idiot
Looks like we got some people blinded by nostalgia
Grow up in the early 2000s till 2013 everything was awesome from 2014 till 2024 that is when everything went downhill. I miss the early 2000s
After 2016 everything started going downhill when social media started becoming mainstream.
@@jasraj155nah it's cuz harambe died
You grew up
@@jasraj155Social media was mainstream in like 2010, smartphones loaded up with Twitter and Facebook were already common, there wasn't as many boomers on it spreading conspiracy theories though.
Probably tech has made society more isolated as a whole. Holiday traditions are communal by nature, their inherent meaning and value is sustained by a type of communal spirit that seems to be changing., much like Christmas carolers really aren't a thing anymore; whereas in previous eras, it was probably just a given during the holidays: something that people did due to tradition. May Day festivals were once popular in America as well, but has long since faded away. I think humans will always have traditions, it'll just change forms as time marches on.
What we need is a culture kept alive through the individuality of people and through taking our responsibilities seriously. A culture of basic decency only, if you will!
That is an agreeable statement. A society based on community while preserving modern beliefs and values. Now that is what I call progress!
@@dazinqwilly3385 Thank you very much! I'm a fulltime philosopher who focuses on psychology and social dynamics. While describing opposites at first, them being the individual and society respectively, they have deep ties and I highly encourage you to start observing yourself and other people. Find the patterns, find the keys to open the door to a better future!
Cheers! ✌️
@@trwn87are you really a full time philosopher? If yes, please look for the comment I made in this video and tell me what you think about what I said 🙏
I just saw that 4 of 5 were deleted, can't win against the propaganda I guess
@@edxotattoo I mean, philosophy isn't my job (I still go to school in fact) but its an integral part of my life. I never stop thinking. So that's fulltime philosophy, isn't it?
another banger. come back on the podcast soon brother! God bless
"Jamie, can we get this guy on the show?"
The issue is that tradition has become synonymous with the right wing and Christianity.
I want tradition, community, but not psychopathic churches and bigotry.
Those people also politicize Christmas. I grew up around people like that and while I don't mind Christmas, I absolutely cannot stand religion anymore, my depression pretty much went away upon me becoming an atheist. I'd ironically say I'm a better person too as I'm helping others just because I'm a good person, not because I'm trying to rack up points to be on a gods good side.
As a millennial, what are good old days? When i was a kid, stuff sucked, when i was a teen we had no money to go out or party, same for my 20’s. now in my 30’s, i buy things i would have liked, i stay away from family drama. Weirdly enough, i love doing thanks giving with my wife and a couple friends i don’t mind cooking for. Thinking of doing better decor for halloween because i never got the chance to and hand out more candy. For Christmas we already decorate, and its just us 2. For new years, i just game and drink. Not traditions, just stuff to keep busy with. if we don’t decorate, who will? I don’t blame any one Gen for traditions dying out. As a millennial i was inline for the most part, I’m sure Gen Z is the same. They don’t like it now, but will later when they out grow being online. Gen Z is doing great same as Gen X.
The 80s and 90s
The good old days are an illusion. If you look at the supposed good cartoons that the kids grew up with, you will find that almost every single one was a critique on capitalism and modern day life and that your future was always going to suck. Codename Kids Next Door is one that comes to mind. It's about kids fighting against evil corrupt adults like Mr. Boss who is not too far off from the out of touch MBAs we see running companies today.
5:24 it’s called the age of Aquarius. Which is technology, information and enlightenment. The age that focused on religion was the age of Pisces. Its other themes included anything illusionary which was also Hollywood. Thats why Hollywood is currently struggling now, as we go into the age of Aquarius.
I have a lot of thoughts.
•I’d love the community of church, but im gay and trans and no matter how much I desire religion, the people there would exclude me.
•I’d love to have traditions but those require time off work and money. Something that me and my parents do not have.
We don’t have the money for traditions. The remaining traditions there intentionally exclude people like me like we are diseased lepers.
When I was a kid I didn’t have a sense of self, so I wasn’t immediately banned from my local community based on something I can’t control, so I am nostalgic for that time. The economy was better too, and we could afford traditions and Christmas spirit.
I am not the most keyboard warrior type; I am a good person who is very spiritual and I try to be kind to others, I just want to be respected. I don’t want my community constantly commenting on how much they disagree and despise the person I am. And again, we just don’t have the money to have traditions either. Nor the time.
Are you American?
Because i Dont think most Catholics In my country would exclude you , I won't lie some old people might make fun of you behind your back or comment that your gay ,usual is out of ignorance or belief they learned, to be fair they talk bad about everyone that does something they disapprove 😂
In my country most get vacation time that is connection to religion and thus to culture besides Christmas even then depends on your family isn't a lot of money to keep the "tradition" and you can always divide it by everyone.
We aren't traditional like old people anymore but some traditions prevail and new are formed.
It seems when Americans talk about tradition they mean the nuclear family.
The final statement reminded me so much of Everything Everywhere All At Once.
Which I have heard described as a Metamodern movie.
“Yes, the world is confusing. Yes, I am lost too. But all I know is it is worth it. And in this crazy world, I want to be with you.”
Acceptance of the complexity of it all while still holding onto humanity and hope.
As someone who does not come from a religious bg all i can say is u cant force religion on ppl. You dont have to look for god, god finds you.
Actually, thats a 2 way street. God doesnt usually come looking for you unless you avail yourself.
@@aiodensghost8645what is a “God”
God Cant Even Decide When He Wants To End The World Just To Start The Same Fucking Cycle Over Again.
@@Brookpitlik The source and ground of existence. God is "to be". Jesus Christ is God in the flesh. Orthodox Christianity is true and unfiltered Christianity. Western Christendom has lost its way.
@jasonfromguitarcenter so you support the persecution that happened when the Catholic Church governed us all
Doing things that are obligatory but have no real benefit to my life is dumb.
I saw this on a t shirt at hot topic
They aren't designed to be beneficial to you, yes, they are designed
Naive post. There are things where benefits to you are not immediately clear until many years, even decades later. As you get older and older you'll realize this.
Definitely one of the example of this is the genital mutilation of boys. No reason other than preserving tradition
Sounds like an idiot child who would say "Why do I need to brush my teeth? This has no immediate benefit to me."
Oldest gen z or youngest millennial here. Hubby and I had our first real Christmas tree last year because our baby is old enough to start remembering.
It was so expensive for a tree like wtf?!? Good thing our son still loves playing with cardboard boxes. We made a cardboard box city for him along with a few small toys.
Guys we need to raise pay by a lot across the board. I want to be able to afford a half decent Christmas every year. We also can in no way afford another kid so pray for no more accidental additions. Birth control isn't 100%. Anyway merry uh .. summermas
Your self awareness and ability to describe reality without bias is needed alot more on RUclips it's been a while since I've found a video that has zero points I can't agree with
Personally, as one myself. Some reasons why I'm not as interested with stuff like this is also because sometimes, online environments, ESPECIALLY in video games, just happen to be something I want to do instead.
I obviously still find culture- culture, traditions, all things similar, interesting topics and events to do. But, usually I cut down on some stuff like that to stuff like...
- personal interests to cultures generally more appealing
- learning the history of cultures, so you may lack interest to contribute to it with whatever you've learned about. At the bare minimum, finding fulfillment in classes of cultures, and religions, things alike is something that should be there. Like look, you won't like it if you were on the unlucky side. But, if I'm not able to even play a role in some way to the bare minimum for even fulfillment of being apart the process, there's not much to stay for.
- and simply, online fantasies and gaming worlds, I just happen to find way more entertainment with fictional entertainment. Things that just happen to be WAY more cooler and interactive because in videos games you can really see magic come to life in a simulated world. I dig that, and I think other people would if they were able to be in an environment where you can really make it out with tools.
- and when comparing some real world religions with fictional ones or new, old, modern ones; sometimes, fictional ones online just happen to be, just more intriguing to me; something I would rather do instead because I find it to be better to be doing. Religions that are in gaming worlds in their stories are cooler sometimes honestly. I know, and other people know that some religions in fictional worlds could be the craziest, unfamiliar, and very unrealistic, but they're COOL, ngl.
Indeed, your perspective resonates with many of us. Also growing up around the internet, I found myself engrained with the modern luxuries and experiences as well instead of old-school beliefs that many from past generations faced. Yet, like you, I also find culture and history quite intriguing. As a Hispanic myself, I live the language, tradition, cuisine, yet i’m also quite progressive in other ways (as I mentioned in another comment, i’m an Atheist, quite unlike other Hispanics).
Gen Z
People have to go on, aticking to tradition make people and the world stagnate. So, no religion, no politica, no fake history, no old habits that make no sense. People who stick to these things like religion, old habits etc. will never go forward and will always fail.
Well said
I dont understand your point. Taking Christianity for example, it has been around for 2 thousand years and many scientists from those 2 millenia were Christians so i don't understand how religion holds humanity back.
@@AstrolaveyScientists & Religion Do Not Mix. The Vatican Proved That 🤣
@@jasonfromguitarcenter i think Kepler, Boyle, Pascal, Mendel, Lemaître, and many others disprove that. You can be religious and be a scientist at the same time.
@@Astrolavey You Can’t. The Vatican Literally Burned Someone For Saying That We Aren’t The Center Of The Universe Like We Think
Basically in the past people formed traditions to counter types of behavior among people then later generations forgot why those traditions where made in the first place and found them to be unnecesaary. Now that we are suffering from the lack of those traditions people have started to realize why those traditions existed and are trying to bring them back. But unfortunately some people have decided that the only way forward is to destroy everything and start from scratch so we now have Accelerationism which is set to run the world down to the gorund so we can start from square one.
Consumerism ruined christmas
It's just as much the fault of Big Tech as it is the Millennials themselves.
Millennials grew to resent tradition in The late 2000s and 2010s because they graduated into an unworkable economy. They were promised the things that Their parents had and got absolutely none of it. Boomers kept appealing to their traditions, but they only hindered Millenials' ability to make a future for themselves.
Big Tech created a society built around middleman services. Everything from ordering food to getting a job to even dating requires the use of an app that acted as a middleman. There's nowhere to meet up anymore, Nobody delivers on their own anymore, And nothing is public anymore. The traditional methods of interacting with the world are gone, And this is had the effect of isolating the younger generations. But there is no reason to undo this middleman system because it is *massively* profitable for the middleman, Damn the long-term consequences.
Add in the Pandemic And it's social and societal damages, and it's no wonder why the younger generations have given up on culture and have chosen simply to survive. Because despite what it looks like, that's all we are doing. Surviving a world that hates us and parades around the fact that it has failed us on purpose.
And with the rise and fall of Trumpism, it has become more and more obvious that There is no place in the world for young people.
Why do we even need traditions? There’s no need for it anymore as long as we enjoy what we are doing!
Exactly, I'm happy that we can all be individuals now
Cause the bitterness and economic mistakes of previous generations all came to collapse on us at once when we were little kids. Adults/elderly ppl around us growing up were all proudly espousing traditionalism and authoritarianism, while constantly taking their frustrations out on us. So we got turned into a clone of gen x at large because we were primed to reject the fallacy of appealing to tradition.
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Even now it keeps getting worse with elderly employers so out of touch with current economic reality they see us fighting for living wage and call us lazy and entitled.
At age 53 myself, living alone 23 years in the U.K. and having extended family in Rural Ireland, working 30 years in supermarket retailing, over the years, I’ve found myself being indirectly and effectively forced to abandon many Christmas traditions, especially during Covid - I don’t even travel until after the New Year, as it’s a nightmare and since Covid, because of higher costs and last minute delays and disruptions, it’s become virtually impossible to plan trips, even after 2022 - I was stranded in Holyhead for 2 days in October 2022 because of a train strike and where SailRail used to be more reliable than flying and air travel
We dont like tradition because it no longer works
tradition was:
- the customer is always right
- one time payment or rent to own
- everything was affordable (so society can easily trade and support each other)
- INS!!!ANE pe!!!ople (wasn't accepted)
- Strong m@!!!n existed to keep things stable and integrity
Unless we create our own communities. It will be much harder, but it's still possible. But you may be judged by modern society, cus your not living up to the norm as of modern values. So people will shun you for not fitting into their degenerate habits.
@@Sethdaknowledgeseeker nobody cares about living up to anything anymore. And yeah tradition doesnt work. Thats why we need a new one
@@sleepforever8378 Do those pronouns stuff also count as new one?
@@sleepforever8378like what for example
I just found your channel Cole. This was awesome. I do a lot of thinking about what our world has evolved to and the holidays are certainly no longer the same.
they've said this about every generation
true
Except in practice, people are more isolated now than ever before. People used to have a community, but today people are out on their own.
@@MirridonOnslaughtIt’s hard for people to have a community when people can’t afford anything right now. The economy is currently horrific, and the dollar has lost like 26% of its value in the span of four years. People can’t do these things due to financial problems.
True. Even in the 1950s, older men were complaining in magazines that younger men just weren't masculine enough & that women were getting too butch.
@@MirridonOnslaughtThe Same Community That’s More Likely To Fuck You Over Than Anyone Outside Of It.
imo traditions should be critically examined. if they are harmful, they should stop. if they are harmless or good, they can stay. if someone doesn't want to partake in a tradition, then they should be free to do so.
The age of aquarius has begun since 2020 i believe. Which is probably the reason why things are the way they are right now.
Aquarius rising, here. 2020 caused a shift that literally lit a fire under my ass. Ive not been able to genuinely rest since 2020
I understand what you’re saying cole Hasting. I always feel that the world isn’t the same anymore each day because movies are flopping, people don’t find the holidays fun anymore, war conflicts are going on, and when Covid hit, it ruin our relationships with all the people around world. I wish I can go back to the old days in the 2000s where it was so much fun and better.
A large portion of the “culture” mentioned at the beginning of the video is based upon what we do “as a family”. In order to retain that culture, you have to produce a family of your own with which to continue those traditions. If you want stability and traditions, get married and have kids. And stay away from the influences that destroy the things you wish to preserve and protect.
who is rich enough to have any kids these days?
You have traditions with your parents too. At least most traditions we had were both shared by us and our parents. Now if you are lucky to afford children. I think you’d experience those tradition with your kids and parents, no?
Great videos Cole! I just found your channel recently and am binging them. For the thing about a sense of community dying, I'd just like to point out a lesser known reason for that. Car dependency. Especially in the US and Canada. My parents (GenX) tell me (GenZ) about how they used to walk and ride their bikes everywhere when they were young. They'd be neighbors with their friends, and live close enough to activities like the swimming pool or the park to walk or ride a bike there. Then they'd spend like 50 cents to get into the pool or play at the arcade or roller rink or whatever. Car dependency has gotten worse and worse here as time has gone on, and third places have disappeared. There are barely any roller rinks or arcades anymore, and security will kick you out if you try to hang with your friends at the mall, because you're "loitering." And even if I wanted to, non-residential areas are too far away to get to without a car, and there is no bike or public transportation infrastructure.
Everything is built for cars, and against pedestrians. If you want to learn more about that, I recommend the channel NotJustBikes. And for learning about third places, I recommend Andrewism's video about third places. Third places are basically cheap, easily accessible places for community to thrive. They used to be more common, like arcades and roller rinks, but they are few and far between now. They're not accessible because you have to drive everywhere (which btw is also dangerous, ableist, and discriminatory towards the poor) because everything's so sprawled out, and they're definitely not cheap. Third places allow for interaction between people of differing economic classes and ideals. They'd connect, compare and contrast, and learn. Even organize protests and rebellions, and come up with new ideas. We don't get as many opportunities for that now.
I think the lack of community IS from the things you said, but also from the potent combination of Capitalism, car dependency, and racist zoning laws. Car manufacturers lobbied for more car dependent infrastructure so they could sell more cars to make more money. Just look up black and white pictures of how US streets used to look, you will be shocked! People walking, riding bikes, driving cars, AND taking trams, all on the street! It was glorious, and the Netherlands has pretty much perfected this by having all those options, just in separate lanes. You wanna know why there are so many white people in suburbs? Because decades ago, white people flocked to the edges of cities to get away from people of color. Then they created zoning laws that made it harder for any other people to live there. "Gated communities" and such. It exasturbated the car dependency problem by putting people's living spaces far away from the places they did everything else, like the doctor, shops, and offices. Community thrives in places where these things are closer together and mixed together. Plus, other laws also eliminated even MORE practical and affordable options by making small apartment buildings basically illegal. That's why you'll see these pictures of big American cities, where it goes from rows upon rows of identical single family houses, to sky scrapers and everything else. It's ridiculous design, and it kills a sense of community.
Just wanted to point that out. There's a lot to cover with Urbanism. I feel like a lot of the time people blame it all on "social media BAD," and don't mention the STRUCTURAL obstacles that are so normalized. Cars are freaking dangerous guys, come on. No way I should have to risk my life to go to the freakin grocery store. Pedestrian centered infrastructure is so much better! There's something for everyone, and you don't have to worry about getting hit by a car all the time. Pedestrian centered spaces are also more aesthetically pleasing, and have more third places. You feel less stressed in that kind of environment, which puts you in a more friendly, chill, conversational mood. The fresh air, moving your body, the sights, the practicality... it makes you feel good.
4:17 True to a point. The latest social mobility statistic was about 5% (pre-covid). Historically very large, but that means 95% of people will stay in their class. So a vast majority will not and have not broken out of their "class." So your claim is just false.
I think my claim is that there’s more of an opportunity to break out of your class, not that most people DO break out of their class
@@ColeHastings for that distinction to be relevant, we would need to accept that only 5% of x class group doesn't want to be in said group.
Are only 5% of those in poverty want to leave it? Is only 5% of the working class wanting to be a millionaire?
I doubt that is true.
@ColeHastings You should research this a bit. Social mobility in the West is dead at this point.
@@GreenSamurai2 @brakka86 definitely would like to do more research. Can you send me some links to your sources?
@ColeHastings I tried, but it looks like the links are not being accepted in posts on RUclips. You are going to have to Google it yourself.
Those Christmas specials weren't claymation they were stop motion The figures weren't made out of clay like Gumby!
Haven't seen the video but thank you Cole. Never stop making content
Thank you man, I will not for at least the next 5 years
I was born in 1996. My family has been doing traditional stuff since forever. We believe in shared family aesthetics and conditioning. Every time there’s a birthday, holiday, or other type of celebration my family is there. Most of us live within the same country, and some don’t. We go all the way just to be there for each other. We are still a very cultured family. Through good times and bad, my family is always there for each other.
Destroying culture shouldn’t be a good thing. Nor should it be something to feel proud about. 😅
It's definitely can be a good thing
If the culture sucks
@@Timmy-mi2efHow?
Trust Me, Some Cultures Shouldn’t Exist At All 🤣
@@jasonfromguitarcenter like religions for example
I feel like gen z will look back in 20 years and just not have too many fond memories of their youth.. their teens just wasted away with doom scrolling for hours and hours on end.. self isolating and depressed.
They had call of duty on the xbox 360 for the older ones and fortnite + minecraft for the younger ones. These will be nostalgic one day
@@QuickScopeChris fair point. Both are fun games.
It's strange. The more options become available, some of which were won politically through activism, the less the desire to avail ourselves of the increasing amount of choices because they seem Hobbes-ian in nature. "Freedom of choice is what you NEED, freedom FROM choice is what you WANT."- Old DEVO song
Globalization and the rise of social media coupled with internet culture has led to irreperable damage to Gen Z's morality
I feel like morals were way worse in the past
I'm guessing you are mad that gay people aren't hated anymore?
Fun fact the crime rate was higher in the 80's and 90's.