The king of comics - Jack Kirby (1 of 2)

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  • Опубликовано: 8 дек 2007
  • a short doc about Jack Kirby
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Kirby
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  • @marplatense31
    @marplatense31 13 лет назад +6

    Jack Kirby should get his own movie.

  • @patrickleslie4897
    @patrickleslie4897 6 лет назад +3

    one of if not the greatest human artist of all time...

  • @TheAssasin2525
    @TheAssasin2525 13 лет назад +3

    Jack Kirby was a true master at his craft. With due respect to Stan Lee, I'd have to say that for me... what attracted me to Marvel's comic books in the 1960s were not simply the story lines-but great art by Jack himself! Of course, Jack Kirby also played a key role in that as well. Speaking for many of the baby boomers, we miss you tremendously, Jack!!

  • @robertquentincobb
    @robertquentincobb 13 лет назад +2

    Kirby is to Comic Art what Picasso was to Painting. He is Gone. But the ART will NEVER DIE. Long live JACK KING KIRBY!

  • @Stepper11
    @Stepper11 16 лет назад +1

    This guy's pure imaginitve prowess is just mind-blowing. One of the greatest creative minds of all time. Period.

  • @comicbookal
    @comicbookal 11 лет назад +2

    This video brings back a lot of very pleasant memories from my childhood in the early 60's and reading many of the comics displayed here. I just couldn't wait to get home after school each day and grab one to read (usually Fantastic Four, Thor,or Steve Ditko's rendering of Spiderman)before beginning my regular homework assignment. Kirby's artwork was always amazing to see and especially his action set pieces.The King of comics and an inspiration to many working in the comics field today ...

  • @luvdomus
    @luvdomus 11 лет назад +1

    Terrifically appropriate music accompanying Kirby's art. Mark Evanier is a very insightful documentarian.

  • @cesarbian-chi5450
    @cesarbian-chi5450 10 лет назад +11

    Master of His Domain.. :) New comics ain't as cool as these...

  • @jeffreyscottable
    @jeffreyscottable 12 лет назад +1

    I just love this... to me, Jack's 'prime' was the 1960's, so I am less fascinated by anything post-1970 or pre-1960. The magic that happened mid-decade is irresistable to me. Thank you for this video, thank you (and Happy Birthday) Jack.

  • @cooljoeny69
    @cooljoeny69 12 лет назад +1

    i love comics and started reading and collecting them as a kid in the late 70's.i love the art work from the 60's and 70's,especially the covers.they were always busy and so cool looking.the comic covers are very good today,but there almost like paintings today.one of my favorite comic covers and comics to read was the fantastic four and it had the hulk vs the thing locked in mortal combat.as a kid that was my favorite comics rivalry.

  • @KronnangDunn
    @KronnangDunn 10 лет назад +3

    4 people got toasted with Omega Rays...

  • @Deadxman616
    @Deadxman616 15 лет назад +2

    Jack, you are missed.
    Long live the king

  • @JAREDNINEJ9
    @JAREDNINEJ9 16 лет назад +1

    you have a big point for sure man because Jack Kirby and Steve Ditko are true legends that can not be compared

  • @cha5
    @cha5 12 лет назад +1

    Probably the outfits that most float my boat would be whatever Kevin O' Neill comes up clothing wise with in TLOEG, no rounded fingers or anything approaching a Grey's anatomy textbook, or even superhero spandex all that much, but nontheless fucking mindblowing on a Kirby level of eye pops with a Gillray twist to it.

  • @pretorious700
    @pretorious700 13 лет назад +1

    Jack was a huge happy part of my childhood.

  • @Dylanio21
    @Dylanio21 14 лет назад +1

    Such a commentary about so many endless hours is positively inspiring.

  • @MothraBlues
    @MothraBlues 15 лет назад +1

    Thanks a billion for posting this. Kirby will always be King, and his influence is everywhere in superhero comics and movies. RIP a true genius!

  • @bakayaroppls
    @bakayaroppls 13 лет назад +1

    Jack was happy drawing, he sees drawing and telling the story through it mostly as an enjoyable hobbies throughout his career.
    I mean, thats the only possible way he can draw 5 books a month and have the motivation to do it: He didnt need any. He wanted to do it.

  • @oldgit4260
    @oldgit4260 6 лет назад +2

    Jack looked tired man, those dark rings under the eyes

  • @vidguy
    @vidguy 12 лет назад +1

    Frazetta, Vallejo, THEY had some creativity with those fantasy armor ideas.

  • @Raedan23
    @Raedan23 16 лет назад +1

    i've just finished kirby's fourth world series and it blew me away. love live the king!

  • @phalanx237
    @phalanx237 12 лет назад +1

    He is such an inspiration to me; he takes my imagination to levels I never dreamed before.
    There is just that 'feel' when you look at Kirby's art, that wondrous, spectacular cosmic feel, and with all due respect to current artists, I don't get that with today's comics that look a bit too clean and polished, lacking a potent touch and soul.
    You can sit at a coin laundromat while waiting for clothes to wash, reading Forth World comics and it feels like diving into a whole other world altogether.

  • @JAREDNINEJ9
    @JAREDNINEJ9 16 лет назад +1

    this guy was amazing I wish I had half the talent he had I would be happy but there can only be one king of comics

  • @cha5
    @cha5 13 лет назад +1

    @djerwulfe From what I've heard the pencilling and creating was Kirby's favorite part of doing comics, inking his own work was something he would let others do just because it would have tripled or quadrupled his work load to have inked everything he was drawing, According to Mark Evanier during 1962-1964 Marvel's carrying dates had 3,130 interior pages of Kirby art plus 285 covers-roughly the equivalent of a book a week, even in the late sixties he was working at home about seven days a week.

  • @tedcantu1
    @tedcantu1 13 лет назад +1

    Absolutely my favorite cartoonist of all time, next to Peter Bagge

  • @thumbsaloft
    @thumbsaloft 16 лет назад +1

    I don't care if the New Gods only lasted two seconds, those characters and books are some of the best in the history of comics, Period!!

  • @cha5
    @cha5 14 лет назад +1

    @cha5 Cont
    Melinda Gebbie, Crumb (especially his Book Of Genesis),
    Art Spiegleman (Maus),
    Alex Ross (when he really puts his heart into something) Jack Jaxon, Toth,
    Bill Watterson, Frank Cho, Dave Gibbons, Charles Vess, Michael Kaluta, Scoli, Mobius, Hugo Pratt, Kevin O' Neil,
    and a few others.
    My favorite cross hatcher of all time is Thomas Nast, There's quite a few other artists I've got a passion for but that would be a massive list.

  • @cha5
    @cha5 12 лет назад +1

    No more basic than Picasso shapes compared to what had come before Kirby came on the scene and revolutionized it. I gave your statement all the consideration it was worth.

  • @cha5
    @cha5 15 лет назад +1

    Well I can see the Fox influence on The Fantastic Four although Kirby put some of the elemental basics of
    earth wind and fire into his work and had a cosmic aspect that Fox or even Eisner never approached IMHO.
    As to Ditko you're quite right about the way he revolutionized comic art plus
    I think I may have sold some of his DC work a little short, I mean
    The Creeper while not up there with
    Dr Strange or Spiderman is
    visually unique no question.

  • @vidguy
    @vidguy 12 лет назад

    some of the Batman specialist outfits, and some variations of the various JL groups, show some creative spark, that Kirby held back from using. no one is going to tell me any different, because i've witnessed them myself.

  • @cha5
    @cha5 12 лет назад

    The most creative and impressive thing DC has finally done recently is finally dropping the Goddamn Comics Code at long last, not any costume change, which I have to give them credit for.

  • @itzjoeymac
    @itzjoeymac 16 лет назад +1

    That is the AWESOME Silver Surfer recieving an energy blast of INCALCULABLE POWER!!! LOL!

  • @cha5
    @cha5 15 лет назад +1

    I might call early Kirby closer to Lou Fine and Mort Meskin myself, Kirby did some work under Eisner though and The Spirit was something Kirby was familiar with and respected,
    "The best comic of the fourties,"
    Jack called it. "No question"
    'Kirby, King Of Comics'

  • @JAREDNINEJ9
    @JAREDNINEJ9 16 лет назад +1

    jack king of comics for sure

  • @JustineLaLoba
    @JustineLaLoba 13 лет назад +1

    Jack Kirby...the only man Johnny Carson ever gave an on air apology to......

  • @cha5
    @cha5 10 лет назад +1

    Happy 96th birthday Jack 'The King' Kirby, August 28th 1917,
    And all the best to the Kirby family.

  • @cha5
    @cha5 14 лет назад +1

    Yeah there's a funny little bit in a comic on comicbook creators that took place back in the early 1940s in which Stan was talking to Joe Simon
    about changing his name.
    Simon
    "So you want to change your name from Stan Lieber to 'Stanley'?!? is that going to be your first name or your last name?"
    Stan
    "Which ever you think sounds best Joe"
    Simon
    "I think it sounds Chinese"

  • @TheVetoSkreeemer
    @TheVetoSkreeemer 14 лет назад +1

    Finally you can notice that the King needed a good army to win, eith that I am saying that for me on his Marvel Run the best inker he paired with was Joe Sinott, others like Chic Stone dint make his work shine as much, so it is a colaboration.

  • @cha5
    @cha5 14 лет назад +1

    "It was just a desire to sound like a "professional". "Kurtzberg" didn't sound like a famous writer and artist.
    "Kirby" he thought did"
    'Kirby: King Of Comics'

  • @CaptainStacy
    @CaptainStacy 16 лет назад

    Stan went on to write the world-famous "Drug Issues" in ASM #96, #97, and #98...he pretty much became Marvel's EIC after that, then moved out to Hollywood and got Marvels cartoons rolling...he later created She-Hulk and Ravage 2099...

  • @IG2HI
    @IG2HI 16 лет назад +1

    A tribute to the God artist. The legacy lives on!

  • @cha5
    @cha5 13 лет назад +1

    @djerwulfe One interesting bit of trivia is that Jack's wife Roz was one of his inkers on The Green Arrow comic back in the 1950s.

  • @itzjoeymac
    @itzjoeymac 14 лет назад +1

    not entirely BAD IN THE 80'S... Great atuff compared to most. Mainly, he was so incredible in the 40's thru 70's, it just SEEMED below him but he was 60 something by then. His 'collaborations' were almost always his original idea.

  • @itzjoeymac
    @itzjoeymac 14 лет назад +1

    Let's just say your favorite artist is like your fave food or music. Everybody differs. However, I'm sure, if pressed, Steranko, Adams and Colan will tell you Kirby showed the ''right way' to do super-hero comics in particular. He invented the 'language'. Ask Alex Ross or John Byrne or Jim Lee. They know.

  • @owlie14
    @owlie14 14 лет назад +1

    of course he deserves more credit. I never said he didn't. in fact, he should've been getting just as much credit from marvel as stan lee has. the fact that the estate has to FIGHT this at all is stupid

  • @cha5
    @cha5 12 лет назад +1

    Variations on Cap's costume like fitting him with leather (Ultimates) or cleavage and a star on his head (Liefeld) don't count. You can also try to come up with a modern costume that comes close to Odin's insofar as lines scales and curves plus complexity and grandeur and also a sense of function. ( by the way his design work is called Kirbyesque, there's nothing in the way of "basic shapes" in Kirby's art, never has been)

  • @cha5
    @cha5 14 лет назад +1

    @TheVetoSkreeemer
    I would say Kirby didn't create his work in a vacuum and there are quite a few artists who were an influence on him, Lou Fine, Will Eisner, Hal Foster,
    Mort Meskin, and others.
    As for Kirby having invented
    the super-hero language well there was
    Siegel and Schuster,
    Bob Kane and Bill Finger and others who technically created what we know to be the super-hero comicbook, however IMHO Simon & Kirby were the first ones who really brought it to life.

  • @fishdirt
    @fishdirt 14 лет назад +1

    Actually they're trying to gain the FULL rights to the characters for his estate to make. They've already sent cease and decease letters to Sony, Marvel, Disney and so on. After the Siegal/Superman win it may very well happen. Superman will probably be licensed back to DC so Kirby's relatives may do the same with Marvel.

  • @fishdirt
    @fishdirt 14 лет назад +1

    A whole comic in 3 hours? Not even Romita Jr can do that. Is it stick figures? I'd be interested in seeing his art.

  • @cha5
    @cha5 13 лет назад

    @puffedhell I've always felt that the way Kirby was treated by Marvel was an example of this industry at it's worst, same as in the case of Siegel & Shuster and Superman.
    The main thing I'll say about Stan Lee is that he's got a gift for purple prose, and he's second to none when it comes to promoting Marvel comics and himself (he's always made Uncle Walt Disney and P.T. Barnum look like pikers in that regard)

  • @Mike_The_1950s_Historian
    @Mike_The_1950s_Historian 13 лет назад +1

    @cha5 You're right! And seeing how "Marvel" is at the opening credits, you would think Stan and Jack would've been credited. Come to think of it, the supporting characters that they created for "Thor" are theirs too, and their names aren't there, either.

  • @itzjoeymac
    @itzjoeymac 16 лет назад +1

    awesome. i cannot believe anyone could think that stan lee created most of the characters at marvel. it was CLEARLY Jack Kirby. why else did stan call him THE KING? stan is very important.his position as editor allowed jack kirby and the other artists to really stretch out and do more realistic stories. BUT as far as the marvel universe of characters, it almost all comes back to jack. what did stan lee ever create before or after jack was with marvel? NADA!!!

  • @cha5
    @cha5 12 лет назад +1

    Damn straight sunshine, not to mention Galactus, Eternity, Darkside, and countless others that McFarlane and Liefeld will never come close to. How many characters has Toddy created anyways just Spamm, oh yes he also cited Ditko as an influence even.

  • @cha5
    @cha5 12 лет назад +1

    Kirby redefined the comicbook as an artform and brought it to a cosmic scale that no artist prior to him came close to, costumes? see Dr Doom, Galactus, Odin, Captain America, Mr Miracle,imagination? try The Fourth World, the concept of The Silver Surfer & Galactus, The Anti Life Equation, Kirby's impact on this medium will never be equaled. If that's not TRYING, I'd like to know what is.

  • @unaperrson
    @unaperrson 13 лет назад +1

    He is the Buddy Rich of comics!

  • @itzjoeymac
    @itzjoeymac 16 лет назад +1

    There is a new one by Mark Evanier I believe to be available on Amazon. Of course, all you need do is look at any Marvel or DC comic and you are basically seeing a 'modernized' representation of Jack's work. Same goes for the superhero movies, including STAR WARS! Buy the Masterworks of FF or Thor or the early X-men and get the Fourth World stuff from DC and you should also include the Forever People for the art despite the not so great stories.

  • @itzjoeymac
    @itzjoeymac 16 лет назад +1

    All of the artists at Marvel were told by Stan Lee to 'DRAW LIKE JACK.'

  • @cha5
    @cha5 13 лет назад +1

    @sabinoson Yeah, I hope they at least list somewhere in the upcoming Captain America film
    "Created by Joe Simon and Jack Kirby" but it wouldn't suprise me at all if the studio didn't,
    even though Marvel Comics is at least putting that creators credit on page one of their Captain America books.
    I just hope Lisa Kirby and her family are getting something from these Marvel movies.

  • @slagit
    @slagit 16 лет назад +1

    Great stuff!!!

  • @54spiritedwill54
    @54spiritedwill54 15 лет назад +1

    Great video !

  • @gusbaker4u
    @gusbaker4u 16 лет назад +1

    thank you for posting this, very interesting, and inspiring in this age of Britney Spears'es and no talent hacks, to see someone with huge talent who pushed himself to do great things

  • @loopdsgn
    @loopdsgn 16 лет назад +1

    GREAT post! Would you happen to know if there is a "definitive" Jack Kirby collection (book) with all his best artwork represented? I've been looking for years and have yet to find anything I think is a worthy compendium. Thanks!

  • @itzjoeymac
    @itzjoeymac 16 лет назад +1

    No Jack Kirby... NO NOBODY TODAY. No movies... even Superman and Batman. Nuff Said.

  • @cha5
    @cha5 12 лет назад

    Without Kirby we wouldn't even have a comicbook industry, anymore than we would have a manga industry without Tezuka.

  • @Rodimus78
    @Rodimus78 15 лет назад

    I think it's safe to say Steve Ditko wants to be overlooked. He doesn't like to be interviewed nor to be in the movies. He just want to be isolated with the comic creations that he owns.
    -R78

  • @pytheus
    @pytheus 16 лет назад +1

    Epic!!!
    Thanks for sharing!!!
    The King is dead - Long live the King!!

  • @CSavageSr
    @CSavageSr 13 лет назад +1

    Stan Lee is the Son. Jack Kirby is the Father. He that has ears let him hear.

  • @JAREDNINEJ9
    @JAREDNINEJ9 16 лет назад +1

    I love this video

  • @tanman92194
    @tanman92194 4 года назад +1

    Long live the king!

  • @pypeworld
    @pypeworld 12 лет назад +1

    Comic books are a essentially visual art form, and as such the artist should always takes precedence over a writer. It's a shame that Kirby doesn't get more credit as the true artistic creator of the Marvel universe.

  • @cha5
    @cha5 13 лет назад +1

    @djerwulfe Cont
    He was also doing layout pencil art for other new artists to trace over during the late 1960s per Marvel's orders, to try to teach them to draw in the Marvel (Kirby) style so he really couldn't set aside time for inking his flagship titles like The Fantastic Four & Thor, many Marvel inkers during this era IMO really couldn't do justice to Kirby's original art (Vince Colletta) others did a better job Chic Stone, Dick Ayers, and some others,
    my favorite is probably Joe Sinnott.

  • @cha5
    @cha5 15 лет назад +1

    No argument there, I always think it's sad the way people seem to think Spiderman started with Stan Lee and John Romita and that Ditko gets all too often overlooked these days IMHO.

  • @cha5
    @cha5 12 лет назад

    True enough, It's a basic law that whenever Liefeld puts a pencil and pen to paper, he does for comics what Uwe Boll does for film.

  • @cha5
    @cha5 12 лет назад +1

    Actually a little correction here For mediocre comics of the 1980's that would be McFarlane's Spiderman and Rob Liefeld's X Force which opened the cess pool, The superhero comics of the 1990's were about as revolutionary and innovative as crack cocaine.

  • @cha5
    @cha5 12 лет назад +1

    No Galactus was an embodiment of the creator and how Kirby chose to define Lee's request of "Have the FF fight God" McFarlane and Liefeld could never come up with a concept close to Galactus on their best day.

  • @cha5
    @cha5 12 лет назад +1

    No Kirby came up with the concept of Galactus and The Silver Surfer. Stan Lee just came up with the idea of the FF fighting an all powerfull entity.

  • @TheVetoSkreeemer
    @TheVetoSkreeemer 14 лет назад

    Yup that is what i was talking about. Hope new Giants appear on comicdom soon.

  • @vidguy
    @vidguy 12 лет назад

    the silver surfer had basically BEACH SHORTS on, instead of even having the garb of his native world, so how the hell is that CREATIVE?

  • @cha5
    @cha5 12 лет назад

    As for INTRICATE DETAILS check out the latest cover of Hawk and Dove and the cover of Tales of Asgard #1 and tell me which one has more INTRICATE DETAIL.

  • @itzjoeymac
    @itzjoeymac 16 лет назад

    jack also co-created iron man... it is likely the idea came from jack, but stan as editor was allowed to add or remove whatever elements he saw fit. i do agree that jack is much better with stan than alone. stan is a much better scripter. all i am saying is that kirby was the IDEA guy.

  • @cha5
    @cha5 15 лет назад

    Probably my favorite Ditko work would be his 1950s horror comics and Spiderman & Dr Strange, His work from the very late 1960s onward although interesting for me doesn't quite have the same impact.

  • @paperino2366
    @paperino2366 11 лет назад +1

    Jack Kirby was the better illustrator on the comics 's story on the historry word. Nobody made the future on the comics table. The future of Jack Kirby is not available for the people. KIRBY invented the fourd dimension comic, the Michelangelo of the comics.

  • @CinematicComics
    @CinematicComics 14 лет назад +1

    jack kirby was the picasso,michaelangelo,davinchi of the comics world in the twentieth century.a complete original.who REALLY created marvel comics/not stan lee.every character except for spiderman,dr. strange,submariner,iron man&daredevil jack created.also the super-villians and those great atlas monsters.

  • @itzjoeymac
    @itzjoeymac 14 лет назад +1

    Ask Neal Adams, Jim Lee, John Romita, Steranko, Mignola (the list goes on and on) Kirby is GOD lol

  • @cha5
    @cha5 14 лет назад +1

    @TheVetoSkreeemer
    No disrespect to Colan, Steranko,
    or any other artist intended there,
    all of the names you've mentioned are giants in their own right.

  • @pypeworld
    @pypeworld 12 лет назад +1

    @cha5 I totally agree.

  • @vidguy
    @vidguy 12 лет назад

    i didn't read a lot of superhero comics, either during the 80s, or 90s myself. i stuck to mostly military'vigilante genres. BUT, I DID look at more than a few covers of superhero books, and they DID have damn good costume designs, compared to the boxed-in crap, that Kirby would only bother to draw. those COOKIE-CUTTER faces, don't make a good defense for him either.

  • @Tacom4ster
    @Tacom4ster 14 лет назад +1

    Cool art of Silver Surfer

  • @cha5
    @cha5 14 лет назад

    A large amount of the major comicbook creators of the 1930s-1940s were poor Jewish kids from New York's
    Lower East Side,
    Will Eisner
    Jack Kirby
    Joe Simon
    Siegel & Shuster
    Bob Kane
    Harvey Kurtzman
    Will Elder
    Bernie Krigstein
    Stan Lee and alot of others,
    Kirby's original name was
    Jacob Kurtzberg.
    According to Mark Evanier one way to really get Kirby angry would be to suggest he changed his name because he wanted to conceal his Jewish heritage.

  • @cha5
    @cha5 12 лет назад +1

    Now if you want a modern creative team who actually has an IMAGINATION for COSTUMES, Garth Ennis and Darick Robertson beat McFarlane and Liefeld hands down in just about any issue of THE BOYS.

  • @cha5
    @cha5 15 лет назад +1

    Uh no,
    Ditko is one of the all time greats, and during his 'Spiderman'
    and 'Dr Strange' heyday he was right up there with Jack but I don't think
    'Hawk And Dove' will ever be remembered up there with
    'The Fantastic Four' 'Captain America'
    or even 'The Fourth World Saga',
    'Mr A' is interesting though as is
    'The Question' and
    'Tsk Tsk' is a gutbuster.

  • @itzjoeymac
    @itzjoeymac 16 лет назад +1

    Considering DARKSEID especially, it is safe to say THE NEW GODS are here to stay!

  • @cha5
    @cha5 12 лет назад

    Going the ZAP or Dave Smith or Jeff Smith route makes sense, but it's a bitch to manage.

  • @TheVetoSkreeemer
    @TheVetoSkreeemer 14 лет назад +1

    I like Kirby a lot he has the title of King weel earned, his co creation f Captain America Alongside Joe Simon, his colaborations with Stan Lee on The Fantastic Four, Thor, Hulk, his development of the fourth wold series give him in my opinion a weel deserved spot on comics pantheon. On other related matters i liked the early Ditko, but his artwork dint evolve , his classic material is ok but what he drew in the eightiies say was totally disppointing.

  • @TheVetoSkreeemer
    @TheVetoSkreeemer 14 лет назад +1

    You see al the medium need is a few good men , or artists, I also like Wrightson, and in my last post forgot to mention Matt Wagner, David Mazzucheli , who left superheor field , and is stil doing magnificent stuff like City of glass, Bill Sienkiewickz, even though in my opinion he has narrative problems on his comics, so his covers are better, and Frnak Miller early stuff ( 1978-1986). Keep enjoying your classic comics cha5

  • @cha5
    @cha5 12 лет назад

    As to the Batman specialist outfits I looked at that comicbook line but it didn't do a thing for me, especially when they threw the baby out with the bathwater by skinning off the Joker's face. When Kirby did that with a face nailed to the wall in The Manhunter it was creepy, bizarre and memorable. As it even was when Neil Gaiman did the same thing in 'The Sandman', When they went that route with The Joker, it was putrid.

  • @cha5
    @cha5 12 лет назад

    Half of the characters you named weren't even created by Kirby sunshine, Nice to know you're still with it.

  • @TheVetoSkreeemer
    @TheVetoSkreeemer 14 лет назад

    One can only hope. I see by the names you mention that you are a fan of Classic artists, but from recent ages i like the work of Brian Bolland, Arthur Adams, George Perez, Barry Smith (Conan Work), Ross Andru, Steven Bissette, Mike Mignola, Dave Mc Kean, and John Byrne. I dont like all theri work and have not listed them in any order of quality, and given time i can think of more great artists, maybe three or four on this list can be on a par with the classics what do you think?

  • @cha5
    @cha5 12 лет назад +1

    No the shapes in a Kirby comic were no more basic than the cubes in a Picasso painting

  • @frankofelko87
    @frankofelko87 12 лет назад

    @BlakeVII U R SO RIGHT.....