I'm not one of those "everything was better in the old days" kind of people, I'm a fan of modern F1... but this is just so much cooler than a modern qualifying session
It became a farce at the end, since certain circuits improve massively at the end. So the fastest cars would sit and wait, do one lap. So only cars you saw were Minardi, Tyrell, Footwork and March going round. That then resulted in people only tuning in, in the last 10-15 minutes. And that don't sit well with Uncle Bernie.. You don't get to watch F1 for free and not care about it
A lot better than the Sprint race nonsense nowadays. This is my era of F1. I started watching it in 1984 and watched virtually every race live on television until the end of the 1996 season.
Good to see a full qualifying session. I remember at the time getting a cold sweat watching them. Indeed, I preferred qualifying to the actual race. Just car and driver against the clock, with a 'swarm of bees' following the cars. Thanks so much for the upload. :-)
Peak power numbers only tell a small part of the story. The honda V6 had very similar peak power levels to the BMW engines,with a far greater use of that power, with better torque and power spread.
gosh, takes me back. As a young man, I attended the GP on the Sunday & must admit I was in the minority as a Lotus fan - that black & gold JPS livery of the 98T👍. Plus who's going to argue when Murray himself says at 23.16 'here is the man Aryton Senna' who in my own personal opinion, after nearly 50 years of watching F1 - is, was and will always be, the the best there has ever been (full respect to Jim Clark, Jackie Stewart & Mika all amazing drivers, but Senna for me🙂
I was also at the race on the Sunday as a 17yr old. We were on the infield watching them go round and i have a few old photographs of the cars including the JPS Lotus of Senna. Also attended the 85 British GP with De Angelis in the #11. I still have the entry ticket stub..... £15! and I recall
Everything is so damm good, adrenaline, men being men, risks, speed, manual gearboxes, the smell, the sounds, just fcuking proper racing. Miss this a lot.
Brands Hatch GP is still much the same today, albeit no longer used for F1 of course. Its a great circuit to spectate from, it always has exciting close racing.
Yes, the Porsche engine had reached the end of it's development life, that's for sure. McLaren had to endure the engine for one more year before they could get their hands on the Honda unit. What a fortuitous moment that was for McLaren considering what followed.
@@jblack5323 Downforce and increased power and speeds. Rapid changes in elevation and camber can alter the amount of downforce on the car, so it's much like in the old days of ground effect where a sudden loss of grip or downforce has lethal consequences.
@@MrNinjaFish Um... literally nothing you said is correct. Tracks with elevation are NOT lethal to modern f1 cars by any stretch of the imagination. More tracks like spa and nurburgring gp, hell even tracks like suzuka have plenty of elevation changes. Modern cars are no where NEAR the level of twitchy the old ground effect cars were in the late 70's anyway, and dont loose anywhere near the downforce levels they used to due to undulations. Modern cars are a lot easier and safer to drive in literally every way. Having shitty tracks designed by a moronic 5 year old with some crayons is the real problem.
There’re many things you can criticise modern F1 for but this is not one of them. Your comment was around the same time that there were races at Portimao, Mugello, Imola, Turkey…?
@@DSW964 no I definitely mean Nigel Mansell. The guy who could only win a championship when he had the fastest car by more than 1.5s and an average teammate
I'm not one of those "everything was better in the old days" kind of people, I'm a fan of modern F1... but this is just so much cooler than a modern qualifying session
Qually was like kettle slowly boiling back then.
It became a farce at the end, since certain circuits improve massively at the end.
So the fastest cars would sit and wait, do one lap.
So only cars you saw were Minardi, Tyrell, Footwork and March going round.
That then resulted in people only tuning in, in the last 10-15 minutes. And that don't sit well with Uncle Bernie..
You don't get to watch F1 for free and not care about it
A lot better than the Sprint race nonsense nowadays. This is my era of F1. I started watching it in 1984 and watched virtually every race live on television until the end of the 1996 season.
i find the qualifying more interest in this period than i do actual races now.
Good to see a full qualifying session. I remember at the time getting a cold sweat watching them. Indeed, I preferred qualifying to the actual race. Just car and driver against the clock, with a 'swarm of bees' following the cars. Thanks so much for the upload. :-)
These where the MOST powerfull F1 cars ever.. ! BMW was capable of do 1400HP in qualifying !
Peak power numbers only tell a small part of the story. The honda V6 had very similar peak power levels to the BMW engines,with a far greater use of that power, with better torque and power spread.
Wish I could find more of these, fantastic to watch!!
gosh, takes me back. As a young man, I attended the GP on the Sunday & must admit I was in the minority as a Lotus fan - that black & gold JPS livery of the 98T👍. Plus who's going to argue when Murray himself says at 23.16 'here is the man Aryton Senna' who in my own personal opinion, after nearly 50 years of watching F1 - is, was and will always be, the the best there has ever been (full respect to Jim Clark, Jackie Stewart & Mika all amazing drivers, but Senna for me🙂
I was also at the race on the Sunday as a 17yr old. We were on the infield watching them go round and i have a few old photographs of the cars including the JPS Lotus of Senna. Also attended the 85 British GP with De Angelis in the #11. I still have the entry ticket stub..... £15!
and I recall
When they are on a flying lap those cars just look unbelievably powerful and fast, the noise is awesome too.
Amazing fottage...Piquet 's driving way was fantastic!
Everything is so damm good, adrenaline, men being men, risks, speed, manual gearboxes, the smell, the sounds, just fcuking proper racing. Miss this a lot.
2:25 20:36 52:33 Nigel Mansell/ Williams;
9:40 Nelson Piquet/ Williams;
25:45 Alain Prost/ McLaren;
29:49 Ayrton Senna/ Lotus.
What about the other teams?
@@aydankhaliq2967 eles que tomem pica no cu
42:23 Jacques Laffite/ Ligier
47:05 Riccardo Patrese/ Brabham
this circuit man, proper oldschool twisty, up and down, trees, like imola, zeltweg or spa.
Brands Hatch GP is still much the same today, albeit no longer used for F1 of course. Its a great circuit to spectate from, it always has exciting close racing.
I WAS THERE IN THE PITS SAT 86 AS BACK UP RACE FF 1600
Piquet / Mansell… What a team…
Love the person jumping up and down on the bridge at 52:31
😂
Thanks for sharing this!
Gaaf dit man 👍🏻 goeie Herinneringen aan deze tijd 😊
They focused on like 4 guys the whole broadcast lol wtf. Shit, if you were like a Berger fan for example, you were shit outta luck.
Some guy said that the fw11 were pumping out 1800 hp at this qualification.. not sure about it though
600~800bhp more than what it probably did
@@gaucho5073 That's what I said. Read my previous comment again.
Piquets car looked so fast it was almost unreal. Might be true as quali power was never officially quoted
No it was 1200 to 1300 hp in quali and around 800 to 900 for the race
@@posniknelb6114 the benetton for sure made more than 1400
I would love f1 to leave silverstone and go back to brands
I fear the modern cars are too big for that. What a great circuit. Brands and Oulton Park are fantastic
2026🙏
That McLaren visibly slower than the Williams
Yes, the Porsche engine had reached the end of it's development life, that's for sure. McLaren had to endure the engine for one more year before they could get their hands on the Honda unit. What a fortuitous moment that was for McLaren considering what followed.
Shame circuits with any sort of undulation are lethal to modern F1 cars.
Why?
@@jblack5323 Downforce and increased power and speeds. Rapid changes in elevation and camber can alter the amount of downforce on the car, so it's much like in the old days of ground effect where a sudden loss of grip or downforce has lethal consequences.
@@MrNinjaFish Um... literally nothing you said is correct. Tracks with elevation are NOT lethal to modern f1 cars by any stretch of the imagination. More tracks like spa and nurburgring gp, hell even tracks like suzuka have plenty of elevation changes. Modern cars are no where NEAR the level of twitchy the old ground effect cars were in the late 70's anyway, and dont loose anywhere near the downforce levels they used to due to undulations.
Modern cars are a lot easier and safer to drive in literally every way. Having shitty tracks designed by a moronic 5 year old with some crayons is the real problem.
@@MrNinjaFish you clearly have no idea what you're talking about.
There’re many things you can criticise modern F1 for but this is not one of them. Your comment was around the same time that there were races at Portimao, Mugello, Imola, Turkey…?
Nigel Mansell is the most overrated driver in F1 history. The great work of British media as always
Your thinking of Senna
@@DSW964 no I definitely mean Nigel Mansell. The guy who could only win a championship when he had the fastest car by more than 1.5s and an average teammate
@@diogosimoes3618you don’t know anything about racing
Who won this race again? I seem to have forgotten.
31 victories says otherwise