Yeah, certified new planes are pricey... the reason is that they were making tens of thousands a year back in the golden era, and now are making just thousands or hundreds a year. But your comparison isn't so far off... I have rented a 152 from LNT two weeks ago for $125 wet, and it has a brand new GTN650xi (but no autopilot), and instructors are $55/hr there, so total is $180/hr today... but what is 40/hr in 1980? check the internet and it says that normal inflation would be 280%, or your $40/hr then should be $150/hr in today's dollars... so $180 isn't so awful. Of course, back then you were in a NEW 152, and now you are in a 45 year old 152, ha!!
Thanks for the video! I missed hearing the useful load, which I think is barely 1200 lbs? Also do you know for the used versions, if the older ones had higher useful loads? I seem to remember some years having around 1400lbs... but perhaps the difference is just A/C and FKICs... (which also wasn't mentioned, but I believe are available options - so probably aren't included in the base useful load.)
Useful load is approximately 1200 pounds but goes up 200 pounds with the osbourne or d Shannon tip tanks. Some older models did have higher useful loads. It varies per model. Also if you take out the two rear most seats, it gets you an extra forty pounds.
There is no factory option with the evs options. Many flaws with supposed facts in this video. Fiki is not standard on new bonanzas. Even showed a Beechcraft Baron which is a twin engine in the video. New one now is 1.3 million Soo but off in your price
It isn't too rude to expect the title of the video to be accurate... 1.5 seems to be the price of the Baron, which is 1.49MM in 2024... the G36 base price is 919k... both according to AOPA. But yeah - try getting one for the base price is probably one in a hundred.
Sure.. and pay the much more expensive operating costs. Like old A class motorhomes. You can get one for a fraction of the price of a tiny Westfalia or Sprinter. But now you have to fuel and maintain it. You have to keep it in a park because you can’t boondock or camp with it. Most parks have a unit age limit to keep the vagrants out. So it becomes very expensive and limiting.
The best value in a Bonanza is in an older used one. These new Bonanzas are heavy on the controls and fly like a truck - The Garmin G1000 is too menu intrusive - The new Bonanza is simply not worth the money!
jaysen192 32 years ago there were still tons of cheap legacy piston singles from 1946-1986 and fuel and insurance and parts (lots of used parts available) were a fraction of what they are now.
No one has the money to afford this plane or a used one. If they did they sure as hell wouldn't spend it on a rig that tops out at about 200 knots. There's a lot of stupid people out there with money and are in the aviation community. But, not as many as you think.
I own a g36 and trust me I'm not stupid. It fits my mission well and the 190 knots gets me where I go at a smooth 18 gal. an hour and Florida to North Carolina in just over 2 hours. On another note it has went up in value about 20% in 2 Years so I guess it really was a good investment NOT a stupid one! Cheers....
What are you buying that’s better? Consider that a turbine aircraft is about double the price and an order of magnitude higher operating costs. Then consider insurance and experience requirements. Single private pilots have their hands very full at 200 knots in a complex single.. you can read about the disasters all of the time for the very few who wind up in a 250-400 knot aircraft. I fly a Caravan EX and a King Air 350. If I was independently wealthy I’d pick the Caravan in a heartbeat because 170 knots is more than fast enough at the pace I’d want to go and it’s simple, versatile, and hella reliable without even movable gear to worry about.
1.5 mil FOR THAT? Glad I got out of aviation in the 80’s when I was paying $40.00 an hour for an instructor and a 152.
Are you really comparing a 1980s Honda Civic to a new Cadillac?
“$1500 for THAT? I got my Commodore VIC20 in 1982 for $400!”
Yeah, certified new planes are pricey... the reason is that they were making tens of thousands a year back in the golden era, and now are making just thousands or hundreds a year. But your comparison isn't so far off... I have rented a 152 from LNT two weeks ago for $125 wet, and it has a brand new GTN650xi (but no autopilot), and instructors are $55/hr there, so total is $180/hr today... but what is 40/hr in 1980? check the internet and it says that normal inflation would be 280%, or your $40/hr then should be $150/hr in today's dollars... so $180 isn't so awful. Of course, back then you were in a NEW 152, and now you are in a 45 year old 152, ha!!
Definetly expect a Turbo for Mountain crossings.
Why the twin turbine (King Air?) at 3:29 ? Crazy edit?
Buy one, get one free 😂
Thanks for the video! I missed hearing the useful load, which I think is barely 1200 lbs? Also do you know for the used versions, if the older ones had higher useful loads? I seem to remember some years having around 1400lbs... but perhaps the difference is just A/C and FKICs... (which also wasn't mentioned, but I believe are available options - so probably aren't included in the base useful load.)
Useful load is approximately 1200 pounds but goes up 200 pounds with the osbourne or d Shannon tip tanks. Some older models did have higher useful loads. It varies per model. Also if you take out the two rear most seats, it gets you an extra forty pounds.
If you want useful load.. get a fixed gear plane like a Cessna 206 or Cherokee 6.
Like the same the co pilot seat can sit a passenger the same the g58 baron
Nice
Notice the rock on the gals finger? She'll have to hock that to afford this plane!
i laughed when i saw it. No way Princess rides in a Bonanza. A new 360 maybe.
Can take 5 passengers
There is no factory option with the evs options. Many flaws with supposed facts in this video.
Fiki is not standard on new bonanzas. Even showed a Beechcraft Baron which is a twin engine in the video.
New one now is 1.3 million Soo but off in your price
Don't be rude
Nobody cares.
It isn't too rude to expect the title of the video to be accurate... 1.5 seems to be the price of the Baron, which is 1.49MM in 2024... the G36 base price is 919k... both according to AOPA. But yeah - try getting one for the base price is probably one in a hundred.
Hmm...may as well buy a good used turbine, eh?
Sure.. and pay the much more expensive operating costs.
Like old A class motorhomes. You can get one for a fraction of the price of a tiny Westfalia or Sprinter.
But now you have to fuel and maintain it. You have to keep it in a park because you can’t boondock or camp with it. Most parks have a unit age limit to keep the vagrants out. So it becomes very expensive and limiting.
Why can't you get this plane in a turbo
i dont understand.. why is too expersive.... i thought $400k
The best value in a Bonanza is in an older used one. These new Bonanzas are heavy on the controls and fly like a truck - The Garmin G1000 is too menu intrusive - The new Bonanza is simply not worth the money!
Id rather fly fist class everywhere.
Why private aviation is failing…..
Government got ahold of it.
@@kylepace4832 - and the insurance companies and the lawyers…. they gutted it…
As someone in private aviation, what is failing about it?
@@freighter1097 you aren't serious right? $1.5 million is ridiculous. Ga is NOTHING like when I started flying 32 years ago
jaysen192
32 years ago there were still tons of cheap legacy piston singles from 1946-1986 and fuel and insurance and parts (lots of used parts available) were a fraction of what they are now.
$1.5 mil and it’s not even a turboprop bonanza 😭😭😭
Considering a turboprop engine alone is between $500k and $1 mill…
Why non turbos y normales
Way too expensive
yeh...Only USA real high quality gen avn aircraft worth the $$...plain aviation truth!!😎👌🇺🇸🇸🇰🇩🇪🇸🇮🇬🇧🇨🇵🇨🇦🇦🇹😁👍
No one has the money to afford this plane or a used one. If they did they sure as hell wouldn't spend it on a rig that tops out at about 200 knots. There's a lot of stupid people out there with money and are in the aviation community. But, not as many as you think.
wdym, its less than a house ffs
I own a g36 and trust me I'm not stupid. It fits my mission well and the 190 knots gets me where I go at a smooth 18 gal. an hour and Florida to North Carolina in just over 2 hours. On another note it has went up in value about 20% in 2 Years so I guess it really was a good investment NOT a stupid one! Cheers....
What are you buying that’s better?
Consider that a turbine aircraft is about double the price and an order of magnitude higher operating costs.
Then consider insurance and experience requirements. Single private pilots have their hands very full at 200 knots in a complex single.. you can read about the disasters all of the time for the very few who wind up in a 250-400 knot aircraft.
I fly a Caravan EX and a King Air 350. If I was independently wealthy I’d pick the Caravan in a heartbeat because 170 knots is more than fast enough at the pace I’d want to go and it’s simple, versatile, and hella reliable without even movable gear to worry about.
Rip 🪦