@@AndrewMellor-darkphoton Just the most valuable parts. There is a lot of fake media about heir children, who claim more of Samsung than belongs to them. Sorry about Papa, but I am seeing greed and ambition from Samsung now. Lots of illegal activity by Samsung in the USA. My apologies to those hardworking people at Samsung
"Let me pause and explain what Chemical Vapor Deposition actually is" I love when you review the technical alongside the economic/financial! I've read about a lot of tech topics, but its mostly been rough overviews on wikipedia, and there's always some key technical aspect that I gloss over that has a huge impact on the economics that I fail to grasp.
I would love to see a video on the little no name chip makers of the industry. There are many small companies making old discrete chips, capacitors, resistors, diodes, and mosfets who operate on razor thin margins and profit based on quantity over quality. Most people don't even realize these companies exist even though they play a highly important role in the industry and the world in general.
The ones you are speaking about are jsc integral in belarus, mikron of Russia and tower semiconductor of Israel. I agree. I would love to see more videos on these companies
@@记住天安门广场 I wouldn't call Seagate a no name company. Same with Skywater. There are so many companies producing things like those discrete transistors or passives like resistors and caps, that literally nobody outside of Hot Chips would ever know. Moors Law is dead just claimed TSMC is 30% of the semiconductor industry but each PC has maybe 3-4 chips produced by them and 100s-1000s of those little 3 pin transistors, pmics, optocuplers, opamps, etc. An example: Micro Commercial Components Micro Commercial Components is a manufacturer of high-quality discrete semiconductors to the consumer markets. MCC's products include diodes, rectifiers, transistors, MOSFETs, voltage regulators and protection devices. I work with a company that makes sensors for all of Germany's trains. They measure the wobble in the axle on every single train car in the ICE. Each sensor is as big as a tictac and costs over $1k. There are companies that produce connectors, data bus chips, cables, lenses, ASML has 8000 suppliers for an EUV machine and only a handful people have heard about.
I worked for the Perkin-Elmer Microlithography Division as a Design Engineer for 10 years during the 80s. It was the most satisfying period of my 40 year career. This vid brings back memories of a happy time for me. You guys need any help, talk to me.
I'm curious what sort of software you may have utilized during the 80's - I am fascinated at how much progress was made pre-2000 with comparatively few compute resources compared to now. Cheers and much respect for your skills !
I started working for Varian Semiconductor Equipment in 2007, which was bought by AMAT around 2011. I am a senior engineering tech at AMAT/Varian SE in Gloucester, MA, and work mainly on the High Current Trident (XP2) implanters. Great job on the video. Very interesting to see so much of the history of the company and the industry as a whole. Cheers.
I love how this is one of the few channels that talking about semiconductor industry. The another channels just talking about more superficial things like big tech software companys, and almost no one think about what is actually truly important, The semiconductors.
I'm an operator for the Metal area of our fab and I'm surrounded by the AMAT Enduras that I load/unload and run quals for daily. I'm glad to have stumbled across your channel and for providing an in-depth perspective into an industry I'm not familiar with but am slowly absorbing.
You working with Endura Barriers? I'm in wet and plasma etch at the facility I'm in but I've got some buddies who are shackled to the Enduras and it's a love hate relationship to operate those from what I hear from them.
Jim Morgan and Michael A McNeilLy two legendary celebrities show you the differential importance of operation director and principal eng'r, great video for all the semi man!
Applied is everywhere along with ASML and LAM and KLA in a semiconductor fab. Their machines sometimes require onsite engineers in our fab (or the one i used to work in). They make a lot of things such as CVD, PVD as well as etchers. Our equipment engineers sometimes could not fix their machines and we have to: 1. either hire someone who had worked for applied. 2. hire an onsite engineer who just sits around for the most part.
@@JJRicksI don’t work at Intel, but I work in the Hillsboro area as a supplier. It’s crazy to see how many satellite buildings there are for KLA, AM, ASML, IMS that are just there for service techs to be on site at Intel.
I used to work on an Applied Materials atmospheric pressure CVD tool, used a conveyor belt to move wafers on a graphite try into the heat zone where SiH4, O2, and PH3 were injected. Air was kept out, and the toxic gasses kept inside by a nitrogen air curtain on either end of the heat zone. You could watch the wafers being deposited by peering down the conveyor belt. the gasses came in from above the wafer trays, and exited below via an exhaust fan. Fun stuff. We ran 70% PH3 in Ar in one process, one whiff will kill yoh!
Would be great to hear how ASM/LAM fits into the equipment market alongside TEL/Applied. Also would be really cool to see the equipment provider breakdown for the biggest Fabs. For example, what share of TSMC equipment is from each equipment provider?
True, but that info would be very hard to get. I guess you could calculate it based on sales figures and from stock reports but more than a rough estimate will be impossible.
You cant really compare ASML to Applied Materials. Completely different equipment. They don’t compete. ASML is photo imaging and Applied is basically everything else.
Here is a real comparison. LAM's purchasing department (buyers) do not ask for or except under the table pay off's from suppliers like AMAT's corrupt purchasing buyers do.
I work in the semiconducting industry, it's not easy! I actually didn't know what semiconducting really is until I watch this video, you learn something new everyday!
One note: A major advantage of CVD is the lower thermal budget. Thermal oxidation requires 1100 C. You can't do that after metallization. CVD provides a lower temperature process for depositing dielectric layers.
I work for AMAT. I love your content. Actually, this video inspired me to apply at AMAT. Thank you. The company has sent me to Taiwan for training. If I am blessed with an opportunity to go back to your beautiful country again, I’d love to grab some coffee with you. Could you report on the Raptor/Sculpta system we have developed? I would appreciate your thoughts on it. I love your channel. It keeps me passionate about my job. Thank you.
Obligatory comment for the Algorithm. Come on people let this man hit a 100k before this month ends. We owe him more than a million subs for making videos on subjects varying from macroeconomics, economic history to the minutiae of semiconductor industry and its history in east amd south east asia. topics that interact with each other in ways that cant be explained by your avg youtube edu content creators. Cheers in advance for hitting a 100k.
I deeply appreciate your style of explaining in-depth information. Its like listening to an audio Wikipedia to be honest. I would wish to see you publishing videos on different topics too.
Superb content!!! If you can keep this non technical person engaged the way you do you are doing a phenomenal job. I don't have the expertise or knowledge to suggest any topics of interest, but you seem to have a knack for choosing the right content be it nuts and bolts of semi-conductor business or topics on southeast asia. 👏👏
LAM is doing a lot of interesting work in selective atomic later deposition and selective atomic layer etching. From my experience, compared to AMAT, LAM is the more interesting of the two. TEL has since interesting tools, especially their NT333's that dov spacial ALD by rotating a large quartz disk with wafers in pockets.
I thank god that TEL was not allowed to merge with Applied Materials. Since TEL has now financially become very strong in last 5 years but TEL was weak around early 10s so they favoured the deal. Now TEL will not agree on these type of deal anymore.
the video is very informative as always! I love listening to your video while getting ready in the morning. If I could suggest just one thing to improve your content, it's the audio level. I always have to max out my phone speaker to hear your video.
@Tommy Salami, Yes you are correct, most fab/cleanroom people call Applied as AMAT. I made my career in semiconductor for over 35yrs. Started in 80 in silicon valley. I have been to AMAT facilities many times on Bowers ave. Santa Clara.
hey bro. even though your presentations are quite dry, i still keep coming back to them. i don't know what to suggest as you seem very technical, but i really like the history aspects of things. i especially like when you given clear diagrams of said spoken equipment. anyway cheers keep up the good work
Specialization keeps increasing, as it always has in a maturing industries. But it seems vertical integration is big when things are changing in big and unpredictable ways where total control is essential. Companies don’t always figure which is right way to go.
In 2000, I visited several chip making equipment manufacturers to adapt their equipment to Renesas' 300mm FAB. Every manufacturer seemed to be fumbling and worried, but AMAT's response was good, so I didn't have any problems. By the way, Brad Mattson (ex VP of AMAT) seems to be a respectable person.
Thank you so much for your content and this video. Would it be possible to and as a request to also cover the semiconductor metrology and inspection processes including players like KLA. I am a huge fan of your channel and thank you for all the work you do here.
I'd be interested in a video about more second and third tier semicundoctor companies. Tha companies that make the billions of LEDs, diodes and so on. They are still super hightech companies, but IMHO operate in the shadows. Speaking of which: could anyone explain to me how ICs and super small components like LEDs and diodes are cut from their wavers? I thik I heard "diamond saws" being used, but that sounds rather brute-ish, messy and slow, especially when producing dozens of thousands of units per day?
that depends. Usually for ICs (at least for high performance ones), your diodes and LEDs are integrated in the circuits. Actually, diodes are super easy to make and not at all complicated. You have zener (surface or buried with a highly concentrated n- dot in a p+ surrounding)/Schottky(thin platinum surface on top of the silicon - n type usually), and any sort of p/n junction. You would then clean the surface and make contacts (coppers or coppers aluminum) for each of the junction. Diodes are LEDs as components dont make much money so most of those companies are operating with thin margin. As for LED, usually it's not a silicon substrate but a GaAs one. These are too niche and I have never worked on them prior. MEMS is another technology that bites the dust due to small margin. When you cut chips from wafers, there are something between chips called "scribelines". These are where you would put test structures to test for each wafer after fab out (scan for defects probably). They are isolating the whole chip with full metal/contacts from top to bottom at a certain width. Designers are not supposed to design super close to it either. After that, yes you just saw them out :) Disclaimer: these are mostly my experience from being a process development/device engineer in an analog semi company not named...TI
@@reehji The chips are broken off along the scribe lines: just like a glass sheet is cut. Because the substrate is a single crystal, you need to make sure that you scribe along a crystal plane. Diamond saws are useful while making the wafer from the block. That is the reason bigger size wafers are more popular. You waste considerable material (equivalent to the thickness of the saw + polishing losses).
User friendliness and communication Improvement - please focus on your breath while speaking - relax and breathe using your belly diaphragm to have strong, confident voice and straighten your back.
Self serving CEOs often from the outside are rewarded with huge financial incentives if they sacrifice the company’s future by cutting R&D. The short term boost in profitability justifies huge bonuses for the CEO as stock price rises. I think of Steve Jobs who was forced out of his own company Apple because he wanted to invest big in software. His foe ended up very rich as he cut R&D and drove Apple to near extinction. Then Jobs returned and turned Apple around.
Hello, Asianometry. Will you in the future do a feature on Chinese IC chip and semiconductor manufacturing equipment makers such as Naura, AMEC, and SMEE?
Non linear optics too // in the future / quantum optics with AGI AI design principles widely utilized to innovate the optics galore, even the light source, mask and EUV machine layouts to further increase wafer throughput. New ways to make the large boules faster with less energy & even better material purity. Better ways to cut the large boules into wafers, cheaper, faster & with better quality. There are lot of metrology aspects that can be innovated with GAN AI engineering CAD assist AGI // and quantum computing
It's surprising how well US companies do in the semiconductor industry despite not getting subsidies for decades and having the highest wages in the world. I guess the East Asian economic model of massive subsidies combined with wage suppression can only get you so far.
I wonder if there could be a new Gold rush in 70s and 80s era semiconductor manufacturing just to take up shortages in low end microcontroller and discrete semiconductor parts that are so critical to everyday life. Some of those old concepts are probably more easily doable with today's technology and control electronics, for example in making CVD equipment or controlling gasses with used or refurbished mass flow controllers / vacuum pumps / etc that are pretty low cost these days.
An interesting exposé, thank you! Just two small comments: 1. The leter Å in Åtvidaberg is not an A, it's its own character, pronounced like "awe". 2. Whan mentioning the currency of Sweden, Denmark, Norway, Czechia and maybe more they all mean crown, so just call them crowns! Oops, the video I was watching was the one about Facit. By the time I wrote this comment, another video had started.
I was in South Korea @ doing install @ hynix when the hole espionage crap with applied came to air... man it was hard to get you test equipment and laptops in and out after that. But always worked well with the crew af all machine manufactures including applied.
The other issue with these massive specialists, is there are so few of them. Imagine Taiwan hit by a meteorite (or invasion) that took the same time as the Ukraine war and whose factories while value to capture intact might be destroyed. Many critical firms are in California, home of the big quake/forest fires. At the same time, specialist R+D if better centralised to generate ideas and access answer quickly/test results and work agile like (even if building the new parts takes years). In theory consolidaton as mentioned would have allowed much easier access to massive credit terms needed to make the big leaps, it would have left one firm to rely on even if there were multiple factories building them. Intel got lazy when AMD was not pushing them and now they know that killing a competitor is not always the wall st answer. The other issue in the US is the insane expectation of quarterly results. If a year might be tough and you want to keep your high paid C-Suite job, then cutting R+D ("we will fund it back to the same later in "a few years"). Results - higher profits, happier wall st, higher share prices, higher compensation and more lucrative stock options to sell later at a lower tax rate. Wall st traders are happy and tell their clients why they are such magic makers. Years later you are IBM, Nokia, Sony, Motorola and if you are lucky you bailed early before the slump (forget the regular Joe).
Not sure Applied qualifies as unappreciated. The Wall Street Journal follows them closely, and has for decades. My favorite story about them was I briefly dated a woman who worked there. She was PHD physics, and standing to close to her brain could give you a sunburn. I asked her how she liked working at applied, she said "I like it, but don't like the fact they make me talk to CUSTOMERS". IE, applied employs brainiacs.
Hello Asionometry, please increase your voice audio levels slightly up to understand your words effortlessly. I have to jack up my PC volume levels to hear your words clearly. Thanks for all your nice videos.
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Make videos in space research organisation like NASA, ISRO, JAXA, SAPCEX....etc
Did you know that both TSMC and Samsung are American companies? They're both owned by an American, he lives in Los Angeles. 🤯
@@donaldharlan3981 Samsung is not owned by one guy in the usa
@@AndrewMellor-darkphoton Just the most valuable parts. There is a lot of fake media about heir children, who claim more of Samsung than belongs to them. Sorry about Papa, but I am seeing greed and ambition from Samsung now. Lots of illegal activity by Samsung in the USA. My apologies to those hardworking people at Samsung
I just started working for Applied Materials early this year, great company, good video. I work in Physical Vapor Deposition or PVD as an engineer.
Hi. I work PDC myself on SEM’s
@@rubiaragagon7722 lol me too
Hey me too
Lol it just goes ro show how small the world really is, enjoying the work with AMAT everyone?
@@endurachadgaming yeah it’s pretty good, what region do you work in?
"Let me pause and explain what Chemical Vapor Deposition actually is"
I love when you review the technical alongside the economic/financial! I've read about a lot of tech topics, but its mostly been rough overviews on wikipedia, and there's always some key technical aspect that I gloss over that has a huge impact on the economics that I fail to grasp.
I would love to see a video on the little no name chip makers of the industry. There are many small companies making old discrete chips, capacitors, resistors, diodes, and mosfets who operate on razor thin margins and profit based on quantity over quality. Most people don't even realize these companies exist even though they play a highly important role in the industry and the world in general.
The ones you are speaking about are jsc integral in belarus, mikron of Russia and tower semiconductor of Israel. I agree. I would love to see more videos on these companies
Some of the no names are, Seagate MN, Skywater MN, EMD NJ, Headway CA. Very small companies.
@@记住天安门广场 damn I didnt know that there were smaller ones. But these firms if I'm not mistaken make chips for analog electronic devices right?
@@记住天安门广场 I wouldn't call Seagate a no name company. Same with Skywater. There are so many companies producing things like those discrete transistors or passives like resistors and caps, that literally nobody outside of Hot Chips would ever know.
Moors Law is dead just claimed TSMC is 30% of the semiconductor industry but each PC has maybe 3-4 chips produced by them and 100s-1000s of those little 3 pin transistors, pmics, optocuplers, opamps, etc.
An example: Micro Commercial Components
Micro Commercial Components is a manufacturer of high-quality discrete semiconductors to the consumer markets. MCC's products include diodes, rectifiers, transistors, MOSFETs, voltage regulators and protection devices.
I work with a company that makes sensors for all of Germany's trains. They measure the wobble in the axle on every single train car in the ICE. Each sensor is as big as a tictac and costs over $1k.
There are companies that produce connectors, data bus chips, cables, lenses, ASML has 8000 suppliers for an EUV machine and only a handful people have heard about.
@@excitedbox5705 no disrespect to Seagate or Skywater.
I worked for the Perkin-Elmer Microlithography Division as a Design Engineer for 10 years during the 80s. It was the most satisfying period of my 40 year career. This vid brings back memories of a happy time for me. You guys need any help, talk to me.
I'm curious what sort of software you may have utilized during the 80's - I am fascinated at how much progress was made pre-2000 with comparatively few compute resources compared to now.
Cheers and much respect for your skills !
Watching Asianometry is like solving a jigsaw puzzle. For every video, you find out where one piece fits with another piece.
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the Asianometry cinematic universe heh
I work in a fab and it is so nice to find your videos clearly explaining how the semiconductor industry works.
Wow! what a great content!
Looking forward for your content on LAM research and KLA
I started working for Varian Semiconductor Equipment in 2007, which was bought by AMAT around 2011. I am a senior engineering tech at AMAT/Varian SE in Gloucester, MA, and work mainly on the High Current Trident (XP2) implanters. Great job on the video. Very interesting to see so much of the history of the company and the industry as a whole. Cheers.
I love how this is one of the few channels that talking about semiconductor industry. The another channels just talking about more superficial things like big tech software companys, and almost no one think about what is actually truly important, The semiconductors.
Another fantastic video! I start at ASML tomorrow morning, your videos helped me to get the job. Keep up the great work!
Good luck!
Wow! Cool
Oh yeah! Keep them coming John! I want to know everything about this industry, and you're a top dollar educator on the subject! :D
I'm an operator for the Metal area of our fab and I'm surrounded by the AMAT Enduras that I load/unload and run quals for daily. I'm glad to have stumbled across your channel and for providing an in-depth perspective into an industry I'm not familiar with but am slowly absorbing.
You working with Endura Barriers? I'm in wet and plasma etch at the facility I'm in but I've got some buddies who are shackled to the Enduras and it's a love hate relationship to operate those from what I hear from them.
Jim Morgan and Michael A McNeilLy two legendary celebrities show you the differential importance of operation director and principal eng'r, great video for all the semi man!
Applied is everywhere along with ASML and LAM and KLA in a semiconductor fab. Their machines sometimes require onsite engineers in our fab (or the one i used to work in). They make a lot of things such as CVD, PVD as well as etchers. Our equipment engineers sometimes could not fix their machines and we have to: 1. either hire someone who had worked for applied. 2. hire an onsite engineer who just sits around for the most part.
Company rep is a plum job. Until the market turns.
I've only ever been in Intel fabs but this sounds like Intel, haha
Sounds about right to me! (Source : I work for AMAT)
Lol #2 not possible if you work on legacies 😅
@@JJRicksI don’t work at Intel, but I work in the Hillsboro area as a supplier. It’s crazy to see how many satellite buildings there are for KLA, AM, ASML, IMS that are just there for service techs to be on site at Intel.
I used to work on an Applied Materials atmospheric pressure CVD tool, used a conveyor belt to move wafers on a graphite try into the heat zone where SiH4, O2, and PH3 were injected. Air was kept out, and the toxic gasses kept inside by a nitrogen air curtain on either end of the heat zone. You could watch the wafers being deposited by peering down the conveyor belt.
the gasses came in from above the wafer trays, and exited below via an exhaust fan.
Fun stuff. We ran 70% PH3 in Ar in one process, one whiff will kill yoh!
Awesome video! I used to work on the 8300, P-5000, Centura and Endura. Spent many years in fabs!
Would be great to hear how ASM/LAM fits into the equipment market alongside
TEL/Applied. Also would be really cool to see the equipment provider breakdown for the biggest Fabs. For example, what share of TSMC equipment is from each equipment provider?
Would be a great video!
True, but that info would be very hard to get. I guess you could calculate it based on sales figures and from stock reports but more than a rough estimate will be impossible.
Whats ASM?
@@valopf7866 he meant ASML
@@odaialzrigatAh okay, thanks!
Need a comparison video between ASML, Applied & LAM
You cant really compare ASML to Applied Materials. Completely different equipment. They don’t compete. ASML is photo imaging and Applied is basically everything else.
Here is a real comparison. LAM's purchasing department (buyers) do not ask for or except under the table pay off's from suppliers like AMAT's corrupt purchasing buyers do.
I work in the semiconducting industry, it's not easy! I actually didn't know what semiconducting really is until I watch this video, you learn something new everyday!
There are two field on semiconductor : Equipment and Process which would you want to work ?
11:40 isn't that a Pentagon rather than an hexagon? Other than that amazing videos
One note: A major advantage of CVD is the lower thermal budget. Thermal oxidation requires 1100 C. You can't do that after metallization. CVD provides a lower temperature process for depositing dielectric layers.
Great video as usual! Please do the same for Lam Research Corp. !!!
As someone signing on at a company that produces all their equipment- I’m stoked. Thanks for making this!
Thanks John ! Your channel amd videos are really full of knowledge with all histrry and future. Keep it flowing.
Nearly 100k. I remember you were at 10k. Congrats when you inevitably get it :)
I'd love to see a video on manufacturing silicon crystals for SC production
Same here.
They have plenty of videos on that on RUclips. Just type that in the search bar.
If you want to profile other semi companies I own a tiny piece of, you have my blessing! Thanks for this.
I work for AMAT. I love your content. Actually, this video inspired me to apply at AMAT. Thank you. The company has sent me to Taiwan for training. If I am blessed with an opportunity to go back to your beautiful country again, I’d love to grab some coffee with you.
Could you report on the Raptor/Sculpta system we have developed? I would appreciate your thoughts on it.
I love your channel. It keeps me passionate about my job. Thank you.
Obligatory comment for the Algorithm.
Come on people let this man hit a 100k before this month ends. We owe him more than a million subs for making videos on subjects varying from macroeconomics, economic history to the minutiae of semiconductor industry and its history in east amd south east asia. topics that interact with each other in ways that cant be explained by your avg youtube edu content creators. Cheers in advance for hitting a 100k.
Worked on AMAT, Lam and Tel dry etchers in same fab, 12” and older 8” tools. Was very fun
I deeply appreciate your style of explaining in-depth information. Its like listening to an audio Wikipedia to be honest. I would wish to see you publishing videos on different topics too.
Superb content!!! If you can keep this non technical person engaged the way you do you are doing a phenomenal job. I don't have the expertise or knowledge to suggest any topics of interest, but you seem to have a knack for choosing the right content be it nuts and bolts of semi-conductor business or topics on southeast asia. 👏👏
Can you make a video on Lam research as well? It's a very interesting company.
LAM is doing a lot of interesting work in selective atomic later deposition and selective atomic layer etching. From my experience, compared to AMAT, LAM is the more interesting of the two. TEL has since interesting tools, especially their NT333's that dov spacial ALD by rotating a large quartz disk with wafers in pockets.
You need to do a video on the small New Zealand company called Buckley Systems that makes these electromagnets for all the chip companies!
APPLIED MATERIALS has been an American gem of a company for a long time. We wish them years of success in the future.
Applied Materials just as big as ASML
Next episode will be LAM Research founded by David K. Lam.
Applied Materials competitor.
prove its next
no worries, any stock that moves will go up...no need work...most pple are millionaires ...buy buy
I thank god that TEL was not allowed to merge with Applied Materials. Since TEL has now financially become very strong in last 5 years but TEL was weak around early 10s so they favoured the deal. Now TEL will not agree on these type of deal anymore.
Thank you. Learned a lot about this company and I didn't know that it was so big.
the video is very informative as always! I love listening to your video while getting ready in the morning. If I could suggest just one thing to improve your content, it's the audio level. I always have to max out my phone speaker to hear your video.
Enlightning! Thank you and greetings from Kaohsiung.
Some of the best stuff on RUclips
you make some of the best videos on youtube. really great stuff man
FYI, no one in the chip industry calls them Applied. Most insiders refer to them as AMAT.
not true, I never heard anyone say 'AMAT' always 'Applied'
@Tommy Salami, Yes you are correct, most fab/cleanroom people call Applied as AMAT. I made my career in semiconductor for over 35yrs. Started in 80 in silicon valley. I have been to AMAT facilities many times on Bowers ave. Santa Clara.
Yes you are correct, unless you have worked with them indrectly or directly, Applied is usually does called as AMAT.
AMAT is the stock ticker, i've never heard anyone call it that. That must be insider only terms.
@@Knight_Kin fab employee here: we only call em AMAT
Very insightful video! I wish I had this background info growing up.
hey bro. even though your presentations are quite dry, i still keep coming back to them. i don't know what to suggest as you seem very technical, but i really like the history aspects of things. i especially like when you given clear diagrams of said spoken equipment.
anyway cheers keep up the good work
I know I'm late but gotta give props where they're do. Another absolute banger @asianometry! Thankful for the amazing content
FINALLY gonna be one of your best videos!
this is the most valuable channel on youtube
Specialization keeps increasing, as it always has in a maturing industries.
But it seems vertical integration is big when things are changing in big and unpredictable ways where total control is essential.
Companies don’t always figure which is right way to go.
It is also horizontal integration: sequential processes being integrated has quality implications
I'd love a TechTechPotato x Asianometry collab at some point.
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Good video. In this sector the best company is undoubtedly ASML.
finally a channel on electrical engineering
Thank you so much for producing these exceptional videos
High-quality videos! Thank you for sharing this with us! Very grateful!
Fascinating! I sure have been enjoying your content! Thanks so much!
Thanks for valuable insight on this very specific area.
Exciting company! Excited to join them as a process support engineer next year !
In 2000, I visited several chip making equipment manufacturers to adapt their equipment to Renesas' 300mm FAB.
Every manufacturer seemed to be fumbling and worried, but AMAT's response was good, so I didn't have any problems.
By the way, Brad Mattson (ex VP of AMAT) seems to be a respectable person.
Thank you so much for your content and this video. Would it be possible to and as a request to also cover the semiconductor metrology and inspection processes including players like KLA. I am a huge fan of your channel and thank you for all the work you do here.
"The machine looks like a hexagon"
_shows pentagon_
Never heard of them!!! So thanks a lot.
Nice avatar : )
I'd be interested in a video about more second and third tier semicundoctor companies. Tha companies that make the billions of LEDs, diodes and so on. They are still super hightech companies, but IMHO operate in the shadows.
Speaking of which: could anyone explain to me how ICs and super small components like LEDs and diodes are cut from their wavers? I thik I heard "diamond saws" being used, but that sounds rather brute-ish, messy and slow, especially when producing dozens of thousands of units per day?
that depends. Usually for ICs (at least for high performance ones), your diodes and LEDs are integrated in the circuits. Actually, diodes are super easy to make and not at all complicated. You have zener (surface or buried with a highly concentrated n- dot in a p+ surrounding)/Schottky(thin platinum surface on top of the silicon - n type usually), and any sort of p/n junction. You would then clean the surface and make contacts (coppers or coppers aluminum) for each of the junction. Diodes are LEDs as components dont make much money so most of those companies are operating with thin margin. As for LED, usually it's not a silicon substrate but a GaAs one. These are too niche and I have never worked on them prior. MEMS is another technology that bites the dust due to small margin.
When you cut chips from wafers, there are something between chips called "scribelines". These are where you would put test structures to test for each wafer after fab out (scan for defects probably). They are isolating the whole chip with full metal/contacts from top to bottom at a certain width. Designers are not supposed to design super close to it either. After that, yes you just saw them out :)
Disclaimer: these are mostly my experience from being a process development/device engineer in an analog semi company not named...TI
@@reehji The chips are broken off along the scribe lines: just like a glass sheet is cut. Because the substrate is a single crystal, you need to make sure that you scribe along a crystal plane. Diamond saws are useful while making the wafer from the block. That is the reason bigger size wafers are more popular. You waste considerable material (equivalent to the thickness of the saw + polishing losses).
Lasers are used to scribe the wafers and then they are cut by inflating the tape that support them
Great info! Thank you.
"Dirty disgusting humans were involved ..." 😂 man, you are great!
I really admire your knowledge
Great video on AMAT!
I work at the Oak Hill Fab is Austin and will be looking for that tool when I go back into work
Love your videos
Applied Materials is biggest semiconductor equipment maker in the *world* , not just America's.
User friendliness and communication Improvement - please focus on your breath while speaking - relax and breathe using your belly diaphragm to have strong, confident voice and straighten your back.
I grew up near the freescale in Austin but I didn't realize they were cool enough to have a ***Precision 5000***! 😱
Self serving CEOs often from the outside are rewarded with huge financial incentives if they sacrifice the company’s future by cutting R&D. The short term boost in profitability justifies huge bonuses for the CEO as stock price rises. I think of Steve Jobs who was forced out of his own company Apple because he wanted to invest big in software. His foe ended up very rich as he cut R&D and drove Apple to near extinction. Then Jobs returned and turned Apple around.
Hello, Asianometry. Will you in the future do a feature on Chinese IC chip and semiconductor manufacturing equipment makers such as Naura, AMEC, and SMEE?
Non linear optics too // in the future / quantum optics with AGI AI design principles widely utilized to innovate the optics galore, even the light source, mask and EUV machine layouts to further increase wafer throughput. New ways to make the large boules faster with less energy & even better material purity. Better ways to cut the large boules into wafers, cheaper, faster & with better quality. There are lot of metrology aspects that can be innovated with GAN AI engineering CAD assist AGI // and quantum computing
It's surprising how well US companies do in the semiconductor industry despite not getting subsidies for decades and having the highest wages in the world. I guess the East Asian economic model of massive subsidies combined with wage suppression can only get you so far.
do one on Entegris
"...dirty disgusting humans". this made me LOL. Great video
I wonder if there could be a new Gold rush in 70s and 80s era semiconductor manufacturing just to take up shortages in low end microcontroller and discrete semiconductor parts that are so critical to everyday life. Some of those old concepts are probably more easily doable with today's technology and control electronics, for example in making CVD equipment or controlling gasses with used or refurbished mass flow controllers / vacuum pumps / etc that are pretty low cost these days.
An interesting exposé, thank you! Just two small comments: 1. The leter Å in Åtvidaberg is not an A, it's its own character, pronounced like "awe". 2. Whan mentioning the currency of Sweden, Denmark, Norway, Czechia and maybe more they all mean crown, so just call them crowns! Oops, the video I was watching was the one about Facit. By the time I wrote this comment, another video had started.
Very interesting report and Professional presentation ☑️
I was in South Korea @ doing install @ hynix when the hole espionage crap with applied came to air... man it was hard to get you test equipment and laptops in and out after that. But always worked well with the crew af all machine manufactures including applied.
What's the story behind Hynix and espionage? Can you share?
@@kelamulenga9164 look up 2010 scandal south korea , applied materials, hynix , samsung.
@7:54 Three people and all bright white teeth. Not a single discolored or yellow tooth in the bunch. A classic photo opportunity!
The other issue with these massive specialists, is there are so few of them. Imagine Taiwan hit by a meteorite (or invasion) that took the same time as the Ukraine war and whose factories while value to capture intact might be destroyed. Many critical firms are in California, home of the big quake/forest fires. At the same time, specialist R+D if better centralised to generate ideas and access answer quickly/test results and work agile like (even if building the new parts takes years). In theory consolidaton as mentioned would have allowed much easier access to massive credit terms needed to make the big leaps, it would have left one firm to rely on even if there were multiple factories building them. Intel got lazy when AMD was not pushing them and now they know that killing a competitor is not always the wall st answer. The other issue in the US is the insane expectation of quarterly results. If a year might be tough and you want to keep your high paid C-Suite job, then cutting R+D ("we will fund it back to the same later in "a few years"). Results - higher profits, happier wall st, higher share prices, higher compensation and more lucrative stock options to sell later at a lower tax rate. Wall st traders are happy and tell their clients why they are such magic makers. Years later you are IBM, Nokia, Sony, Motorola and if you are lucky you bailed early before the slump (forget the regular Joe).
This video reminds me that I need to take a shower from time to time
How come I never hear 'Ion Implanters' mentioned ?....cheers.
So Applied acquired the Finnish ALD company Picosun. Interesting to see how that will develop.
This is great and very informative. Could you do one on Lam Research?
Can you do one on KLA-Tencor? They're the bane of my existence as a fab employee that started in yield metrology haha
You should have Peter Ziehan on your show.
Next chapter will discuss about the software part of the semiconductor world with company such as Synopsys and Cadence who lead in the front.
Informative video
Not sure Applied qualifies as unappreciated. The Wall Street Journal follows them closely, and has for decades. My favorite story about them was I briefly dated a woman who worked there. She was PHD physics, and standing to close to her brain could give you a sunburn. I asked her how she liked working at applied, she said "I like it, but don't like the fact they make me talk to CUSTOMERS". IE, applied employs brainiacs.
Nice video! Can you do one of these videos for KLA also ?
Thanks for your valuable information. I just wanted to know how we can have your consultation regarding setting up a small fab for university?
Hello Asionometry, please increase your voice audio levels slightly up to understand your words effortlessly. I have to jack up my PC volume levels to hear your words clearly.
Thanks for all your nice videos.
I turn on captions.
6:45 looks like George Foreman grills from hell
Screaming.........Great Video
Please normalize the sound level to the medium as now it's too quiet but ads are too loud