Man, thank you. I gotta say, I saw this before I even got the electribe home, and had the file before the thing. Then now, a year after, with a long space of not using the electribe (more of a polyrhythmcs/sp guy myself) for most part of the year, but getting myself used to beat making in general, I plug the file I start seeing why I got obsessed with your channel and these ideas you put out here. It's a whole different game now So again, thank you
Just bought Vol. 2 last night and looking forward to getting into it. My only complaint is for $20 it should have been filled with more patterns demonstrating its potential. You can learn so much from reverse engineering patterns or copy aspects of certain patterns and applying them to your own.
I had that idea, (including others). However, the reality is that I spent all my time on improving/finetuning this pack and this concept. I will re-check all descriptions, and update them if I see anything mentioning a lot patterns being included. Thx for the feedback.
same here. Some while ago I started this research-place for that: github.com/coderofsalvation/electribe-emx-esx-reverse-engineering But it seems a tough nut to crack unfortunately.
Very clever! And I thought I'D crammed a lot of extra sounds into my ESX using slices, etc. Perhaps I'll buy this as a second starter bank? It will be cool to see what you do with Electribe Sampler 2!
Sample pack is so good I bought it and am using it since almost a year, now im trying to further push the boundaries by making a multisample with AKWF single cycles waveform. Tried many different techniques to assembling it but ESX won't recognize the slices so Im kinda stuck. Would you be kind enough to give me a tip for that ? Don't mistake my demand as asking for holding my hand though, I did the research and the work I could and I will still try even if you don't answer. Anyways I'm so close to succeed that any info could help me achieve this and I'm pretty sure ESX users would appreciate the work. Apart from the begging, I crossed your path on the sunvox forums and stumbled uppon your sweet modules thinking about that I wanted to suggest you to do a video about sunvox, people need to know about the magick of it.
Thanks for the support! I remember researching this so let me share you what I've learned so far. The ESX slice-feature *sometimes* introduces a loop, actually a pingpongloop (which is interesting, since instruments normally only allow forward looping). Anyways, since looped slices are somewhat of a voodoo-area, I had to swap some samples in the multisample to persuade the ESX to introduce the pingpongloop. Thinking back, maybe the ESX's reasoning goes like this: if the end of a sample is above a certain level, then introduce the pingpongloop back to the closest similar level. This is just an idea, but since the AKWF slices probably start at 0 and end at 0..then the ESX may never loop it. However, if you would somehow modify each singlecycle to start in the middle (basically prepend the singlecycle with the last 50% of itself), then maybe this could trick the ESX into pingponglooping those slices when using the slice function...just my few cents.
@@leondustar Thats really helping already, the waveforms actually start and end with 0 and all my reasoning was based around that, I'll see what I can do with ffmpeg or sox maybe I'll have to make my own program to do it. Thanks a lot for the knowledge that means a lot to me, I'll have you updated when I made some progress. Have a nice day!
@@foobar879 np, and good luck! Let me know if you discover anything concerning this. The pingpongloop is a very undocumented feature, so the more we understand it, the better :)
oh and another theory could be: the pingpongloop is introduced when a next slice starts with a peak/falling amplitude-envelope (drumhit e.g.). You could test this by slicing a singlecyclewaveform+drumhit+singlecyclewaveform+drumhit in 4 slices. Oh and maybe you'd have to use only the last 50% of the singlecylewaveform, so that it sounds properly while being pingponglooped. At some point we'd should be able to discover the logic no? I mean, it's not like the device is doing some next-level analysis...it's gotta be something supersimple. Drop me a message on leonvankammen at gmail if you want to brainstorm further.
i recently bought this pack. thank you very much! it is an amazing idea and saves a lot of memory indeed. i also got the problem with the click sound, which appears in every drum sample which you choose over the start point knob. i also tried to choose the ramp down Amp EG and the last type on the modulation section. playing whith the EG time knob also just work a bit. but i couldn't get rid of the click sound. i can play around with the filter as well, but it seems to be not the best solution. i mean it isn't a huge issue, but it just doesn't sound that clean. if you got any other ideas how to get rid of the click sound i would be happy to hear :-) thx again. cheers!
Excellent! Another thing, what's the best way to make one particular sample in a pattern go longer than 16 steps? Say I wanted to hear just that one sound for more than one measure?
MJ O not sure if I fully understand the question, but each pattern supports up to 128 steps (oddly enough the new electribes only support max 64 steps, so thats pretty awesome about the SX). You can increment the number of bars using the 'pattern mode'-button and up/down-keys.
+Ricardo Arguelles The knobs are from an old INKEL mixer, which means the diameters are pretty standard ( no idea about the size or model number) . so Im afraid it's going to be a hit and miss game.
MJ O Great question! 200% yes. Actually that is the whole idea behind the samplepack: maximize samplememory, so one can add plenty of his own samples. You get all the sounds, and they take up only a whopping 15% of your samplememory. The problem I had with most other ESX-files is that they use up 100% samplememory. So this is a great startingpoint for creating livesets with your own samples. Think of it as an stripped EMX with unique features + the ability to add plenty of homemade samples/sampling. If you have any other questions let me know.
Is it possible to mod the software/firmware to allow micro timing per track? So more quantise possibilities etc and per track swing amount minus and positive ?
Very Nice, i have a question: wich sd card do you using for the esx. Is that a Smart media card 3,3 v and 32mb?? Can you let me know please. I dont no wich card i must take for the esx.
fortunately the cardtype doesn't really matter Concerning cardsize: as long as there's 6MB free space you're good to go! (ps. I was using a smartmedia card, but SD will work fine too)
Smart usage and hard work :) I dont understand one thing - are all slices in one "sample" same lenght or not? I think thay need to be for starting point to work but i could be wrong..... I guess u can make nice chord progressions this way, could be significant work speed up... Additionaly, i have a question that you might answer - you mentioned that key part can transmit more notes aka chords but can sequencer also record this or not?
Alex Torima same length, and the ESX midi-out *does* send out polyphonic/chords to external mididevices. However this can't be recorded nor replayed on the ESX (unfortunately). Poor man´s workaround would be this: ruclips.net/video/ETELk7Ohr6Y/видео.html
+ri6thechameleon the oscillator samples (sample 000 and 001 'kb-osc') indeed have around 8 slices (you need to select a slice though). However the kitsamples (sample 002 and 003 'mxsxdr') contain a lot of samples which can be selected be the startknob (do not use slices otherwise it will not work).
is it possible to select a track without sending it to play? because for example you want to do a live fade in volume... or whatever you want to control before it goes on play
+Gigi D'Amico yes. Just hold shift before you select the track. Another tip: when selecting different tracks, the knobs point to the wrong value (of the previous selected track). This produces undesired audible parameter 'jumping' during fades. Example: track 6a cutoff is 20, select track 7a (which has cutoff 127), move the cutoff and you'll hear it. Solution: first press the accent track, move the cutoff to 127, then press track 7a. voila, there you go..the knob is pointing to the right value.
Hi there, First time viewer to your channel. Before I buy your ESX file. How exactly do I load it onto the ESX unit? Do I have to save it to the smart media card?
see private message. Anyways for those who're interested: you can just drop the file to your smartmedia/SD card..press the global-button on your SX, press step 16, select the file, press 16...boom..done
+ri6thechameleon you need to press 'part edit', then press down ('slice no') and select a slice by turning the dial knob. When a number is selected your EGTIME will work as expected. When 'all' is selected EGTIME will be limited, but the startposition knob will allow selecting samples instead.
very valid question. Yes and no. **Yes**: if you select the full sample (slice=off) then the startpoint will cycle thru the palette of 127 samples. I found a workaround to increase/decrease the decay-range by modifying the pitchparam + pitchmodulation amp (speed set to 0) in opposite directions (hope that made sense) **No**: each sample can be selected individually as a slice as well (slice=X), which will make the startpoint +decay behave as usual. What i often do, is select a sample slice..tweak it (startpoint, decay, modulation, effect etc) and resample it as a new sample. It really depends on the sample i guess. I usually do this slice=X to create new custom layered synth- or kick-samples, but for percussion/hihat-parts i usually set slice=off and program the samples as-is using startpoint in step-mode.
Hey Leon, I have a question: I follow the steps you explain after the 5th minute, I go to the Step edit and under the MotDest I don’t have a StartPoint but it’s written: NoAssin, therefore I can’t select a MotValue since there is nothing but dashes like this: ------ Could you explain what is the reason and suggest a solution for this issue, please?
Hi Aleksandra. 'noassig' means 'nothing assigned' (yet). Just press 'shift' + rotate the dial-knob to add a MotDest. Then you will be able to change MotValue.
about re-sampling using the electribe sx, couldn't one just re-sample a bar's worth of master output sound and slice it to one part giving a similar result? Different sounds per slice? I don't have my sx in just yet, so I'm not familiar with it at all, just looking at youtube video's currently :) , but I wonder how hard it would be setting up a waveform in for example wavelab, containing a drumkit amount of sounds and placing markers at the start of each sound for the sx to recognize as slice starts. If I can't find similar free alternatives to your esx file or this proofs to be too tedious to do myself, I'll prolly get it :)
+Hiek Suave your approach reminds me of this video: ruclips.net/video/lGctUPri1ew/видео.html . Yes, it basically gives you the ability to stack samples into one, and you can do lots of cool stuff with that. However, the start-position-knob won't know the locations of the 'slices'. Even if you slice the samples or hardcode the start-position values of the slices into stepedit-mode: both of them have limitations and their own caveats which this esxfile tries to solve. Nevertheless, I wish you a lot of fun and experimentation with your sx!
+leondustar thanks for the words, just got the machine so will be diving into the specifics. I guess there aren't any latest firmware upgrades around that let the sx support mp3/flac or similar formats to save memory?
+Hiek Suave by the way, clicking the 'free ELECTRIBRARY VOL 1' link in the description gives me an error page in chrome, do you have another link for it? I'd like to check it out!
Question. Would I just load the esx file into a card via pc and then load it into the esx? Also, will the sound quality suffer after I stack up, let's say 5 samples on one part?
MJ O Good question. Yes the file can be put on a smartmedia/SD-card using a PC. After loading it into your electribe, the soundquality will be highquality for normal and stacked samples. just press the global-button on your SX, press step 16, select the file, press 16...boom..its loaded. ps. you might want to save your current set to your smartmedia card before you do this.
hi this is really nice !! but i have a new problem, i have never seen before! I am an esx owner since 6 years and suddenly the sample name of some parts are flashing but only in some projects and the parts don't play sound anymore, do you know whats the problem and how i could fix it? An answer will oblige.
@@leondustar Oh my goodness, feel so stupid. Now i understand 1/ST 2/- ! I have always used mono samples even with the multisample technique and slices and some days ago i put a lot of stereo samples on to the esx. hahaha... You never stop learning. Thank you very much for your quick reply.
Thank you very much! I love your vids! So, the esx-file with the lot of space you are talking about, where do i get it? is it the electribrary vol 1-file or another? thanks a lot, man! Your videos and Tutorials are really impressive! How many hours daily are you using the ESX to get this skills? Thums up!!
it's the vol 2 file, its the link below the video. But I'll post it here as well: gumroad.com/l/pBHE/social. Eventhough I have a busy life, my SX-time is holy. So yes, I usually spend an hour on the SX in the evenings.
yes it is made exactly with that goal: get lots of vanilla sounds/drums with a low-memory footprint, in order to be able to use the rest of the memory (233 seconds) for your own samples.
+deadhorse whatever : An upgrade tutorial is as simple as this: you can just drop the file to your smartmedia/SD card..press the global-button on your SX, press step 16, select the file, press 16...boom..done. Remember that this will overwrite your previous sounds and patterns. So if you want to keep those, save them first. I would also recommend reading the Korg ESX1 manual (online pdf). Loading/saving ESX-files is explained there as well. In case of question send me a private message. Cheers.
hello Leon :) just bought you extension file . I have a contender for the most thick question of the month if u like:))) I'm about to export all my patterns to sd card. Then i'll copy your download from laptop to sd card too and then transfer it onto esx now...at that point, can I then extract INDIVIDUAL patterns from sd card and reload them into esx? My friend Dave says I cant, I can only export them as a batch ? thanks in advance , Andy
Andy! I think the ESX allows to save either patterns+samples to an .ESX-file (A), or only the patterns to a file (B). I've never tried, but you might by able to import B, which overwrites only ALL patterns (keeping the samples intact). So Im afraid Dave might be right. Ofcourse there's the openelectribe editor which allows you to move individual patterns between ESX-files, im not sure whether its possible on the ESX
Hello Leon, thanks for reply.… Are you ready for thick question of the month number two? LOL… Okay, if I save all my patterns ontO sd card...is the ESX transferring the pattering files and automatically erasing the ones on machine? Or is it copy and pasting them onto sd card?
Also, on your video here, you are talking about your extension pack "Electribe volume 1 "right?… So what about "Electribe volume 2" which I got as well included in your download? Is that a different one/new one? Many thanks, Andy ;))
:) its copy-pasting machine-memory to the SD card. The patterns will stay in the ESX memory, so you dont need to worry about losing them. You need to make sure to select 'All' and NOT 'PSG' (PatternSongGlobal only)
wait what? did you actually hack the firmware to squeeze out more free memory so i can load longer samples or did you just pack all you drum sounds into combined slice sounds? had this idea before but it wont give me more free time, only more slots. very curious about the actual sampling time after loding your file. not sure how this is even possible.
+scyhte82 233 seconds of free memory after loading the .ESX file. no firmware hacking was involved, only packing and combining. Actually I was tinkering with the firmware, but I decided that the risk of bricking it is totally not worth it. Would be neato to have an LFO control the startposition..it'll probably be very simple once the memory addresses of the start- and pitch-parameter would be known..but still the risk man.. :)
Hey man, I know this is an old video so it's a long shot if you'll respond, but I just bought an ESX-1 yesterday and I'm looking to get new samples on it as the previous owner loaded some straight garbage. I'm a noob to this, so I have a few questions: With this pack, do I lose any features aside from being able to adjust the sample start on these samples? How does this not eat into the sample time? This seems like a pretty insane accomplishment :P Thanks :)
congrats, the ESX is getting harder to acquire these days. Its a bit more stable compared to the ES2 imho. When loading this samplepack NO features are lost, just the previous samples (which can be backupped to card, before loading this one). It saves sampletime in various ways, the drumkits are slightly downsampled and many tails are cutted or crossfaded. Alltogether this allows for enough space for recording/adding your own samples (to personalize a liveset e.g.).
Hell yeah brother! I bought the pack. Definitely quite the pack to supplement my own drum samples. It's a little finicky to select the drum samples but overall I think that's a fair compromise. I definitely don't regret the purchase, but I would say it would be nice to have them split into banks of 64 instead of 128 just to make selecting the exact sample a bit easier. Aside from that it's quite lovely :) Do you know where I can get a pack of just the original EMX-1 drum samples? I quite like the stock samples it comes with, tails and all, and I'd love to have them both on this unit and in my DAW. Thanks :D
Hi Leon, I have a question, I'm a total beginner, just got mine ESX-1 recently. Is it worth getting your upgrade if I'm still not 100% familiar with ESX? Would it be a good idea to get maximum out of original set before upgrading it?
You should be totally fine without the upgrade pack. My advice is to first get familiar with the device. If you don't feel the urge to squeeze more samples into your electribe, you don't really need it.
Thanks for the answer :). I have one more question, since my main interest is to work with samples, then at some point I see that the upgrade will be relevant. How do you actually install it? Do you just upload it to SM card?
correct. You need to upload it to your SM card using a PC (using a usb to SM cardreader, costs a few bucks at local computershop). The ESX pack-zip comes bundled with a instruction TXT-file.
Hello Leon!!!! I have the mpc 2000xl still but i dont care. My esx1 is the dream machine. :) . Im waiting to release one ChicaJuke with it (+fxs like memory man and stuff) I will never sell it. But once im Successfull (inda undagruuuund. :) ) i buy something with more memory. I come from akai s750 and esq1...... so..... memory is not my problem. My problem is cops administration and the rest. Not my music.
you have quite good ears. Actually it's my laptop not being able to keep up with my usb datarate. (happens when CPU usage is high). In those cases it randomly drops audiodata from my soundcard which results in this tempochange.
great tutorial about the start point shenanigans, ive never thought of that... but it felt kinda cheesy when you said stuff like ive never seen any esx file like this, when all this is is a lot of drum sound packed closely together in four wavs and sliced up... not that hard to do, not to mention theres loads of esx files like this... honestly it came across a little sleazy to say that theres no such thing like this, because there is, its nothing new actually... unless theres some super secret trick that you did to it that im not aware of... but other than that great video and i really like to watch your other videos for inspiration on uses for the esx...
KnockCZ glad you liked the tutorial, and thanks for sharing your opinion. You should check 5:54 again, did you notice the startposition triggering all sampleslices perfectly? Unfortunately there arent any ESX files with similar capabilities / features / filesize. And if there were, let me know, I would love to use it as well! :)
leondustar well i didnt really notice that, i guess its kinda hard to tell when you mangle the sample so hard... anyway, i still cant differentiate between yours and other esx files, because i dont know what you did to it that separates it from the rest... maybe you'd care to explain a bit more? :) i think it will hardly affect the sales, if people watching this are just half as lazy as i am, theyre gonna buy it anyway... hell, i might even buy it myself, im just curious.... :)
KnockCZ Sure! While moving the startknob-position, each position will point to a different slice. This allows being able to change samples (actually slices) on the fly, and apply motion sequences on them (Normally this is not possible when selecting slices using the big dail knob). It took lots testing and time to get it right, but Im quite satisfied with the result. If you have any suggestions or feedback just PM me.
5 years since this video and sir i must say ur a hero :)
I just mentioned this idea in your other video, but you've taken this to a whole other level.
I'm quite impressed!
I'm really impressed! Nice job Leon Du Star and thanks for all your time, effort and patience.
Man, thank you. I gotta say, I saw this before I even got the electribe home, and had the file before the thing. Then now, a year after, with a long space of not using the electribe (more of a polyrhythmcs/sp guy myself) for most part of the year, but getting myself used to beat making in general, I plug the file I start seeing why I got obsessed with your channel and these ideas you put out here. It's a whole different game now
So again, thank you
Thanks!
Thanks for all this great work! Just bought the upgraded esx file!!!! :)
Just bought Vol. 2 last night and looking forward to getting into it. My only complaint is for $20 it should have been filled with more patterns demonstrating its potential. You can learn so much from reverse engineering patterns or copy aspects of certain patterns and applying them to your own.
I had that idea, (including others). However, the reality is that I spent all my time on improving/finetuning this pack and this concept. I will re-check all descriptions, and update them if I see anything mentioning a lot patterns being included. Thx for the feedback.
Just bought an ESX. Need to buy some cards for it and then I will be sending you monies. Great work!
hmmm, the Electribrary site seems to be down.
Nice work! Brilliant! Just purchased it :)
Thanks for all your knowledge and countless hours spent building this upgrade : )
Build beats not bombs
thank you for the support!
I wish someone would make an updated OS for the Electribes, like the JJOS for MPCs
same here. Some while ago I started this research-place for that: github.com/coderofsalvation/electribe-emx-esx-reverse-engineering
But it seems a tough nut to crack unfortunately.
You know the game to a T
So satisfying to behold
Hi man , thaks very much for your work its very help full for me , this has opened up an entirely different options for working with ESX.
TheDJT003 good to hear :)
Very clever! And I thought I'D crammed a lot of extra sounds into my ESX using slices, etc. Perhaps I'll buy this as a second starter bank?
It will be cool to see what you do with Electribe Sampler 2!
Alright. I just bought this and am installing now. I'll give you an update in a few days. Thanks!
Ok. I bought it, downloaded it, but I'm not sure what's next. Are there instructions somewhere?
all instructions are in the video, textfile and this video too: ruclips.net/video/HQcudqMaeQQ/видео.html
contact me at info@leondustar.nl in case of any problems ok?
A god amongst men. :D Great job on this! I will definitely be buying!
thanks for the kind words!
This is AWESOME!!!!!!! Really cool trick!
Sample pack is so good I bought it and am using it since almost a year, now im trying to further push the boundaries by making a multisample with AKWF single cycles waveform.
Tried many different techniques to assembling it but ESX won't recognize the slices so Im kinda stuck.
Would you be kind enough to give me a tip for that ? Don't mistake my demand as asking for holding my hand though, I did the research and the work I could and I will still try even if you don't answer.
Anyways I'm so close to succeed that any info could help me achieve this and I'm pretty sure ESX users would appreciate the work.
Apart from the begging, I crossed your path on the sunvox forums and stumbled uppon your sweet modules thinking about that I wanted to suggest you to do a video about sunvox, people need to know about the magick of it.
Thanks for the support! I remember researching this so let me share you what I've learned so far. The ESX slice-feature *sometimes* introduces a loop, actually a pingpongloop (which is interesting, since instruments normally only allow forward looping). Anyways, since looped slices are somewhat of a voodoo-area, I had to swap some samples in the multisample to persuade the ESX to introduce the pingpongloop. Thinking back, maybe the ESX's reasoning goes like this: if the end of a sample is above a certain level, then introduce the pingpongloop back to the closest similar level. This is just an idea, but since the AKWF slices probably start at 0 and end at 0..then the ESX may never loop it. However, if you would somehow modify each singlecycle to start in the middle (basically prepend the singlecycle with the last 50% of itself), then maybe this could trick the ESX into pingponglooping those slices when using the slice function...just my few cents.
@@leondustar Thats really helping already, the waveforms actually start and end with 0 and all my reasoning was based around that, I'll see what I can do with ffmpeg or sox maybe I'll have to make my own program to do it. Thanks a lot for the knowledge that means a lot to me, I'll have you updated when I made some progress. Have a nice day!
@@foobar879 np, and good luck! Let me know if you discover anything concerning this. The pingpongloop is a very undocumented feature, so the more we understand it, the better :)
oh and another theory could be: the pingpongloop is introduced when a next slice starts with a peak/falling amplitude-envelope (drumhit e.g.).
You could test this by slicing a singlecyclewaveform+drumhit+singlecyclewaveform+drumhit in 4 slices.
Oh and maybe you'd have to use only the last 50% of the singlecylewaveform, so that it sounds properly while being pingponglooped.
At some point we'd should be able to discover the logic no? I mean, it's not like the device is doing some next-level analysis...it's gotta be something supersimple.
Drop me a message on leonvankammen at gmail if you want to brainstorm further.
i recently bought this pack. thank you very much! it is an amazing idea and saves a lot of memory indeed. i also got the problem with the click sound, which appears in every drum sample which you choose over the start point knob. i also tried to choose the ramp down Amp EG and the last type on the modulation section. playing whith the EG time knob also just work a bit. but i couldn't get rid of the click sound. i can play around with the filter as well, but it seems to be not the best solution. i mean it isn't a huge issue, but it just doesn't sound that clean. if you got any other ideas how to get rid of the click sound i would be happy to hear :-) thx again. cheers!
Hi thx for your message. Please DO Contact me at info@leondustar.nl and i would be happy to help you solve it / refund.
I think this means that the samples are just a few bytes early so the attack of the sound is a perfect square wave.
Excellent! Another thing, what's the best way to make one particular sample in a pattern go longer than 16 steps? Say I wanted to hear just that one sound for more than one measure?
MJ O not sure if I fully understand the question, but each pattern supports up to 128 steps (oddly enough the new electribes only support max 64 steps, so thats pretty awesome about the SX). You can increment the number of bars using the 'pattern mode'-button and up/down-keys.
Hi leondustar, Where can I get those knobs for my ESX and what is the model number? Thanks in advance! :)
+Ricardo Arguelles The knobs are from an old INKEL mixer, which means the diameters are pretty standard ( no idea about the size or model number) . so Im afraid it's going to be a hit and miss game.
Perfect, and my llast question would be, can I still switch out any of the new upgrade samples for my own sounds after I load them in?
MJ O Great question! 200% yes. Actually that is the whole idea behind the samplepack: maximize samplememory, so one can add plenty of his own samples. You get all the sounds, and they take up only a whopping 15% of your samplememory. The problem I had with most other ESX-files is that they use up 100% samplememory. So this is a great startingpoint for creating livesets with your own samples. Think of it as an stripped EMX with unique features + the ability to add plenty of homemade samples/sampling. If you have any other questions let me know.
is this still availebale????? i want this so much and i wonder if i can still buy???
Is it possible to mod the software/firmware to allow micro timing per track? So more quantise possibilities etc and per track swing amount minus and positive ?
that would be awesome actually.
But sadly I'm not aware of any techniques/research in that direction.
Youre so awesome for sharing this!
Very Nice, i have a question: wich sd card do you using for the esx. Is that a Smart media card 3,3 v and 32mb??
Can you let me know please. I dont no wich card i must take for the esx.
fortunately the cardtype doesn't really matter Concerning cardsize: as long as there's 6MB free space you're good to go! (ps. I was using a smartmedia card, but SD will work fine too)
@@leondustar thanks Leon!!
Smart usage and hard work :)
I dont understand one thing - are all slices in one "sample" same lenght or not?
I think thay need to be for starting point to work but i could be wrong.....
I guess u can make nice chord progressions this way, could be significant work speed up...
Additionaly, i have a question that you might answer - you mentioned that key part can transmit more notes aka chords but can sequencer also record this or not?
Alex Torima same length, and the ESX midi-out *does* send out polyphonic/chords to external mididevices. However this can't be recorded nor replayed on the ESX (unfortunately). Poor man´s workaround would be this: ruclips.net/video/ETELk7Ohr6Y/видео.html
i had try to have mltiple sample in one nob...but it work only with the keyboard part about the nobfrom 1 till 7b?
+ri6thechameleon the oscillator samples (sample 000 and 001 'kb-osc') indeed have around 8 slices (you need to select a slice though). However the kitsamples (sample 002 and 003 'mxsxdr') contain a lot of samples which can be selected be the startknob (do not use slices otherwise it will not work).
is it possible to select a track without sending it to play?
because for example you want to do a live fade in volume... or whatever you want to control before it goes on play
+Gigi D'Amico yes. Just hold shift before you select the track. Another tip: when selecting different tracks, the knobs point to the wrong value (of the previous selected track). This produces undesired audible parameter 'jumping' during fades. Example: track 6a cutoff is 20, select track 7a (which has cutoff 127), move the cutoff and you'll hear it. Solution: first press the accent track, move the cutoff to 127, then press track 7a. voila, there you go..the knob is pointing to the right value.
if the track in not in play even with the shift hold, doesn't work
Are these still available? about 3 years late, here.
yup!
YESSSSSSSSSS!!!!!
Hi there, First time viewer to your channel. Before I buy your ESX file. How exactly do I load it onto the ESX unit? Do I have to save it to the smart media card?
see private message. Anyways for those who're interested: you can just drop the file to your smartmedia/SD card..press the global-button on your SX, press step 16, select the file, press 16...boom..done
hello..how to control the lenght of a sample like it s use to be before with the "EGTIME" Nob..beacuse now it play the loops al the way.. :(
+ri6thechameleon you need to press 'part edit', then press down ('slice no') and select a slice by turning the dial knob. When a number is selected your EGTIME will work as expected. When 'all' is selected EGTIME will be limited, but the startposition knob will allow selecting samples instead.
very nice.. :)
how can I get hold of the first pack? the electribary links are all showing 404's.
Migraine Gainn its back online, check it out.
leondustar excellent, thanks.
some interesting stuff on there.. Just got the ESX a few days ago so I'm still getting to grips with it.
Where can i get this upgrade please and thanks
Hi, am I going to loose the ability to trim the start point of the sample if it is used for swapping samples?
very valid question. Yes and no. **Yes**: if you select the full sample (slice=off) then the startpoint will cycle thru the palette of 127 samples. I found a workaround to increase/decrease the decay-range by modifying the pitchparam + pitchmodulation amp (speed set to 0) in opposite directions (hope that made sense) **No**: each sample can be selected individually as a slice as well (slice=X), which will make the startpoint +decay behave as usual. What i often do, is select a sample slice..tweak it (startpoint, decay, modulation, effect etc) and resample it as a new sample. It really depends on the sample i guess. I usually do this slice=X to create new custom layered synth- or kick-samples, but for percussion/hihat-parts i usually set slice=off and program the samples as-is using startpoint in step-mode.
@@leonvankammen7499 thanks for the clear reply. :)
Leo, is there any chance of the electribe website get online again?
yes, it's up again.
Hey Leon,
I have a question: I follow the steps you explain after the 5th minute, I go to the Step edit and under the MotDest I don’t have a StartPoint but it’s written: NoAssin, therefore I can’t select a MotValue since there is nothing but dashes like this: ------
Could you explain what is the reason and suggest a solution for this issue, please?
Hi Aleksandra. 'noassig' means 'nothing assigned' (yet). Just press 'shift' + rotate the dial-knob to add a MotDest. Then you will be able to change MotValue.
Hey, Leon
Thank you very much for the explanation, it worked! :D Thumbs up for your turtorials :)
about re-sampling using the electribe sx, couldn't one just re-sample a bar's worth of master output sound and slice it to one part giving a similar result? Different sounds per slice?
I don't have my sx in just yet, so I'm not familiar with it at all, just looking at youtube video's currently :) , but I wonder how hard it would be setting up a waveform in for example wavelab, containing a drumkit amount of sounds and placing markers at the start of each sound for the sx to recognize as slice starts.
If I can't find similar free alternatives to your esx file or this proofs to be too tedious to do myself, I'll prolly get it :)
+Hiek Suave your approach reminds me of this video: ruclips.net/video/lGctUPri1ew/видео.html . Yes, it basically gives you the ability to stack samples into one, and you can do lots of cool stuff with that. However, the start-position-knob won't know the locations of the 'slices'. Even if you slice the samples or hardcode the start-position values of the slices into stepedit-mode: both of them have limitations and their own caveats which this esxfile tries to solve. Nevertheless, I wish you a lot of fun and experimentation with your sx!
+leondustar thanks for the words, just got the machine so will be diving into the specifics. I guess there aren't any latest firmware upgrades around that let the sx support mp3/flac or similar formats to save memory?
+Hiek Suave by the way, clicking the 'free ELECTRIBRARY VOL 1' link in the description gives me an error page in chrome, do you have another link for it? I'd like to check it out!
agreed, I'll fix that asap
thnx :)
you are a genius. thanks for this upgrade
Question. Would I just load the esx file into a card via pc and then load it into the esx? Also, will the sound quality suffer after I stack up, let's say 5 samples on one part?
MJ O Good question. Yes the file can be put on a smartmedia/SD-card using a PC. After loading it into your electribe, the soundquality will be highquality for normal and stacked samples. just press the global-button on your SX, press step 16, select the file, press 16...boom..its loaded. ps. you might want to save your current set to your smartmedia card before you do this.
superdumb question: 2 sd cards would allow me to swap betwen this and standard way no? no becouse you install it?sounds like a crazy change to
the way its used. But i dont know what that is: haven't even used it yet, waiting for it to arrive.
you can have multiple livesets on 1 sdcard, and swap/load them.
leondustar thats almost too good. thank you for this. like your channel a lot, has this free/joyful sonic mangling feel to it
is there an easy way to prepare these wav files for slicing?
it took me a LOT of time.
hi this is really nice !! but i have a new problem, i have never seen before! I am an esx owner since 6 years and suddenly the sample name of some parts are flashing but only in some projects and the parts don't play sound anymore, do you know whats the problem and how i could fix it? An answer will oblige.
Are you sure this isn't caused by stereo-samples? They take up 2 parts (L+R) instead of one (mono).
@@leondustar Oh my goodness, feel so stupid. Now i understand 1/ST 2/- ! I have always used mono samples even with the multisample technique and slices and some days ago i put a lot of stereo samples on to the esx. hahaha... You never stop learning. Thank you very much for your quick reply.
@@osrow_music hehe I have been in the same situation many times as well :D
Thank you very much! I love your vids!
So, the esx-file with the lot of space you are talking about, where do i get it? is it the electribrary vol 1-file or another?
thanks a lot, man! Your videos and Tutorials are really impressive! How many hours daily are you using the ESX to get this skills?
Thums up!!
it's the vol 2 file, its the link below the video. But I'll post it here as well: gumroad.com/l/pBHE/social. Eventhough I have a busy life, my SX-time is holy. So yes, I usually spend an hour on the SX in the evenings.
leondustar is it possible to load your update esx file with your samples and then my own samples without taking too much memory
yes it is made exactly with that goal: get lots of vanilla sounds/drums with a low-memory footprint, in order to be able to use the rest of the memory (233 seconds) for your own samples.
Hi~I have purchase this esx file,is there any manual or document for upgrade tutorial?
+deadhorse whatever : An upgrade tutorial is as simple as this: you can just drop the file to your smartmedia/SD card..press the global-button on your SX, press step 16, select the file, press 16...boom..done. Remember that this will overwrite your previous sounds and patterns. So if you want to keep those, save them first. I would also recommend reading the Korg ESX1 manual (online pdf). Loading/saving ESX-files is explained there as well. In case of question send me a private message. Cheers.
hello Leon :)
just bought you extension file . I have a contender for the most thick question of the month if u like:)))
I'm about to export all my patterns to sd card. Then i'll copy your download from laptop to sd card too and then transfer it onto esx now...at that point, can I then extract INDIVIDUAL patterns from sd card and reload them into esx? My friend Dave says I cant, I can only export them as a batch ?
thanks in advance , Andy
Andy! I think the ESX allows to save either patterns+samples to an .ESX-file (A), or only the patterns to a file (B). I've never tried, but you might by able to import B, which overwrites only ALL patterns (keeping the samples intact).
So Im afraid Dave might be right. Ofcourse there's the openelectribe editor which allows you to move individual patterns between ESX-files, im not sure whether its possible on the ESX
Hello Leon, thanks for reply.… Are you ready for thick question of the month number two? LOL… Okay, if I save all my patterns ontO sd card...is the ESX transferring the pattering files and automatically erasing the ones on machine? Or is it copy and pasting them onto sd card?
Also, on your video here, you are talking about your extension pack "Electribe volume 1 "right?… So what about "Electribe volume 2" which I got as well included in your download? Is that a different one/new one? Many thanks, Andy ;))
Right, volume 2 is being demoed in this video. Volume 1 is just a pack with some looped instruments for electribe SX keyboardparts.
:) its copy-pasting machine-memory to the SD card. The patterns will stay in the ESX memory, so you dont need to worry about losing them. You need to make sure to select 'All' and NOT 'PSG' (PatternSongGlobal only)
wait what? did you actually hack the firmware to squeeze out more free memory so i can load longer samples or did you just pack all you drum sounds into combined slice sounds? had this idea before but it wont give me more free time, only more slots. very curious about the actual sampling time after loding your file. not sure how this is even possible.
+scyhte82 233 seconds of free memory after loading the .ESX file. no firmware hacking was involved, only packing and combining. Actually I was tinkering with the firmware, but I decided that the
risk of bricking it is totally not worth it. Would be neato to have an LFO control the startposition..it'll probably be very simple once the memory addresses of the start- and pitch-parameter would be known..but still the risk man.. :)
does somebody know, if its a bug on my electribe, that i cannot erase event data in song mode via shift+erase/reset? please help :)
iirc when song events are deleted/nonexisting, the electribe will fallback to events defined in the patterns
you make in the computer one track...with all the drums??
correct
great advice! Bought it :)
Hey man, I know this is an old video so it's a long shot if you'll respond, but I just bought an ESX-1 yesterday and I'm looking to get new samples on it as the previous owner loaded some straight garbage.
I'm a noob to this, so I have a few questions:
With this pack, do I lose any features aside from being able to adjust the sample start on these samples?
How does this not eat into the sample time? This seems like a pretty insane accomplishment :P
Thanks :)
congrats, the ESX is getting harder to acquire these days. Its a bit more stable compared to the ES2 imho. When loading this samplepack NO features are lost, just the previous samples (which can be backupped to card, before loading this one). It saves sampletime in various ways, the drumkits are slightly downsampled and many tails are cutted or crossfaded. Alltogether this allows for enough space for recording/adding your own samples (to personalize a liveset e.g.).
Hell yeah brother!
I bought the pack. Definitely quite the pack to supplement my own drum samples. It's a little finicky to select the drum samples but overall I think that's a fair compromise. I definitely don't regret the purchase, but I would say it would be nice to have them split into banks of 64 instead of 128 just to make selecting the exact sample a bit easier. Aside from that it's quite lovely :)
Do you know where I can get a pack of just the original EMX-1 drum samples? I quite like the stock samples it comes with, tails and all, and I'd love to have them both on this unit and in my DAW.
Thanks :D
@@SomeOne-pd6vm Thanks for the support! Im at a wedding right now but I think I have at on my HD somewhere. Will have a look at it asap
@@leondustar No problem brother! Thanks for putting together such a sick pack. Hope the wedding was fun! Let me know if you find that pack :D
@@leondustar Thanks! Downloaded it :)
Hi ! The downloadlink does not work :/ could you fix it or can you give mi the esx files private ?
I fixed a problem, should work now again. cheers!
+leondustar thx bro now it works !!
How do you eliminate the click after every drum sound?
I want to go back to the original factory settings and sounds... how do I do that?
setting the envelope to 'ramp down' (press 'type', choose the last envelope type, and play with the 'eg time' knob)
for original factory settings/sounds load the factory ESXfile, you can get it here: electribrary.electribers.com/electribe--esx-factory--korg
Hello guys, is someone to know how to check esx-1 system version (firmware)?
try pressing and holding the "Up cursor" and "Down cursor" while powering up
If I sent you a sample library could you make an esx file like this for me? I just bought your files and look forward to using them!
Hey man, in theory yes. However, practically it would take too much time considering all my other current projects, sorry :/
Thanks for your response
Hi Leon, I have a question, I'm a total beginner, just got mine ESX-1 recently. Is it worth getting your upgrade if I'm still not 100% familiar with ESX? Would it be a good idea to get maximum out of original set before upgrading it?
You should be totally fine without the upgrade pack. My advice is to first get familiar with the device. If you don't feel the urge to squeeze more samples into your electribe, you don't really need it.
Thanks for the answer :). I have one more question, since my main interest is to work with samples, then at some point I see that the upgrade will be relevant. How do you actually install it? Do you just upload it to SM card?
correct. You need to upload it to your SM card using a PC (using a usb to SM cardreader, costs a few bucks at local computershop). The ESX pack-zip comes bundled with a instruction TXT-file.
Ok, thanks for the answers ;)
You are welcome. Happy tribing! :)
its great trick but you lose slice channel whitch i use a lot.
Hi thanks for the reply. Actually, It uses *sample* slices, but not the slice *channel*. Could you be more specific?
@@leondustar Yeah , my bad . youre right. i have tried your first bank and it works fine
Hey Great work! The free download link is down... do you plan to put it online again ?
agreed, will fix that asap. thx for noticing.
update: fixed it.
Hi, unfortunately the electribrary web-site is down. Can you please give another link for downloading? Thanx
Hello Leon!!!!
I have the mpc 2000xl still but i dont care.
My esx1 is the dream machine. :) . Im waiting to release one ChicaJuke with it (+fxs like memory man and stuff)
I will never sell it.
But once im Successfull (inda undagruuuund. :) ) i buy something with more memory. I come from akai s750 and esq1...... so..... memory is not my problem.
My problem is cops administration and the rest.
Not my music.
Dumb question - this gives you more free sample slots but the total sample time on the machine is the same?
correct. More free sample slots, and the ability to sequence 127 samples for each part per step (instead of 1 sample per part for all steps)
Jonathan, how is it working for you? Im about to do this regardless, but, want some opinions from recent users.
what happen on 6:26? tempo up??
you have quite good ears. Actually it's my laptop not being able to keep up with my usb datarate. (happens when CPU usage is high). In those cases it randomly drops audiodata from my soundcard which results in this tempochange.
a okey, i notice becose i dont speak english so i have to watch this many times to understand something je , you did a great work!!
LL-------- thanks!
wow this is amazing :)
great tutorial about the start point shenanigans, ive never thought of that... but it felt kinda cheesy when you said stuff like ive never seen any esx file like this, when all this is is a lot of drum sound packed closely together in four wavs and sliced up... not that hard to do, not to mention theres loads of esx files like this... honestly it came across a little sleazy to say that theres no such thing like this, because there is, its nothing new actually... unless theres some super secret trick that you did to it that im not aware of... but other than that great video and i really like to watch your other videos for inspiration on uses for the esx...
KnockCZ glad you liked the tutorial, and thanks for sharing your opinion. You should check 5:54 again, did you notice the startposition triggering all sampleslices perfectly? Unfortunately there arent any ESX files with similar capabilities / features / filesize. And if there were, let me know, I would love to use it as well! :)
leondustar well i didnt really notice that, i guess its kinda hard to tell when you mangle the sample so hard... anyway, i still cant differentiate between yours and other esx files, because i dont know what you did to it that separates it from the rest... maybe you'd care to explain a bit more? :) i think it will hardly affect the sales, if people watching this are just half as lazy as i am, theyre gonna buy it anyway... hell, i might even buy it myself, im just curious.... :)
KnockCZ Sure! While moving the startknob-position, each position will point to a different slice. This allows being able to change samples (actually slices) on the fly, and apply motion sequences on them (Normally this is not possible when selecting slices using the big dail knob). It took lots testing and time to get it right, but Im quite satisfied with the result. If you have any suggestions or feedback just PM me.
this is so nerd!!! i luv it
Is this offer still valid?
at this moment yes
bought it and it doesnt work like its supposed to.
All the kick drums have a weird kind of pump/lfo on, that i cant get off
really disappointed ..
Hi gnr, haven't really had reports like that. Please contact me at leonvankammen@gmail.com and we'll figure out your problem.
Hi thx for your message. Please DO Contact me at info@leondustar.nl and i would be happy to help you solve it / refund.
Yeah!