Newsweek 8 RPM Record 1971
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
- About 7 minutes of a Newsweek 8 RPM record issued June 14th 1971. The record is in dire need of cleaning. It had been in storage. The side 2 label says Talking Magazine for the Blind. The side 1 label is brail. One side goes well over an hour. I thought I would post a small portion of it since most people haven't seen an 8 RPM record. I found 3 of them at a Goodwill in the early 80s.
legend has it that the record is still playing to thhis day
I think it's still going. At least 2 decades long. Lol 😆
Very lucky to have a turntable capable of spinning at the proper speed!
That is one deadly voice narration. A cross between old radio and a traffic stop light voice.
I think that is Willis Conover, the famous Voice of America jazz host. I'd know that voice anywhere! He did many non-VOA announcing jobs. He didn't sound like that in normal speech.
@@jazzredd100 Was just going to say the same, definitely WIllis Conover.
They were called Talking Book Players and they were for the blind... They ran at 8, 16 and 33 & 1/3. RFB (Recording For The Blind) produced talking book records at 8 RPM's up through the 80's. :) JC
This is surprising considering that four track cassettes were being used since the beginning of the seventies. Those cassette players ran at half normal speed and had a switch to select trace 1&2 or3&4 a guy on my school bus was blind and had one. I cleaned his tape heads for him when they got dirty.
It sounds great for such a low rpm! I'm impressed :)
8-1/3rpm does sound quite good for spoken word recordings but does tend to break up a bit with wider frequency changes like you get with music because the width of the groove becomes wider. 16-2/3rpm works great for music recorded in mono and the seeburg company used it for their background music systems, the seeburg records sound great when played properly (they require a narrow 1/2mil stylus, half the width of a regular 33-1/3rpm groove).
if it was loud rock and roll music believe me it would be unlistenable, low speed were usually suited for spoken word recording or very smooth jazz, classical stuff
imagine playing this at 78 lol
now imagine it at 90rpm
Alvin & the Chipmunks
As other pople here have stated, 8-RPM was only used by the Talking Book company. My grandfather had one in the early 1970s, with 8, 16, and 33 RPM. "8" is actually 8 and 1/3, half of 16 2/3, which is half of 33 1/3. I have a set of 8-RPM flexidiscs made about 1983 containing an index of Talking Book recordings. In the early '70s, the Talking Book company was based in Louisville, KY.
Apparently this is the slowest speed for records ever. Though I still remember a dream I had when I was 12 years old (nearly 50 years ago) of a record of Chuck Berry music that played at 2 RPM.
@TwinMillMC I thought of that years ago. Most motors, as voltage starts to go down, current draw goes up causing the motor to overheat. In the case with this one as the voltage went down. The current draw stayed about the same, then started to drop. So it’s not a issue with this one. In fact, it’s been plugged into the variak for about 17 years now. Give or take a few. It was geared a little fast to accommodate the weight of 8 12 inch records. I rarely play that many at a time.
Ever checked the sound quality at the end of the side? (resp. inner groove)
I never heard of this speed before
Me too
Don't feel bad about it. If you are aware of 16 rpm records, you are old like me. Enjoy your youth. I was 11 years old in 1971.
i cant imagine playing a 78 RPM on this!
I did not know there was an 8 RPM record! My parents' and grandparents' HiFi had 16 RPM.
This was from over 50 years ago. How is "shock lung" treated today?
Fascinating. I too never saw an 8 RPM record. I saw a 16 RPM once but don't have a grammophone capable of playing it.
I am shocked. Does 8 RPM exist? I have never seen a record player with that speed selector!! I did not know 8 RPM till today.
Paulo Gonzalez It exists. It was only used in library services for the blind (mostly for magazines, such as in the video), and was discontinued in the late 1990s.
I purchased an 8rp record by accident -at a sidewalk sale at a facility to help the blind. Even at 16rp, it was gabble. Only "one - two - three - ...." app. describing a graph ,could be understood.
It was a waste of my money.
The first mp3 on vinyl on 8 rpm turntable Wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
i like how the tonearm barely moved throughout the whole video
That's so slow! I wonder how slow a record could be recorded before speach becomes un-intelligible. How does it sound like at the center of this record?
What brand and model is that turntable? We had a turntable with speed selector that includes 16 RPM but not 8 RPM.
16 rpm was intend as normal standard for spoken word records. Speeds like 8 rpm and 4 rpm are for special records and players for blind people.
On RUclips are some examples for 16 rpm records with music, it seems, that the sound quality of these is between the old 78 rpm shellacs and the 33 rpm long play record, we know since 1948.
That is a 1960`s vintage RCA record changer...it has obviously been modified to play 8 RPM records...the standard sppeds on that model were 16,33,45,and 78 RPM.
@kennyfreestyler88 According to Wikipedia: "One 10-inch record holds 4 hours of speech with the 12-inch variety holding 6 hours and the 7-inch variety holding roughly 90 minutes"
@TwinMillMC I could say, (I shall never tell.) but what I did was I plugged the turntable into a variak. It's like a big dimmer switch. Then set the turntable to 16rpm. Then set the variak to 57 volts.
Considering that you can typically record 25 minutes a side on a 33 rpm record and that this one rotates at a quarter of that speed, you should be able to put 100 minutes per side on this kind of record.
Я думаю, что значительно больше, поскольку музыка, там более в стерео занимает намного больше места, чем тихая речь, в случае с речью дорожки можно сделать максимально узкими.
Why does the needle keep going back to the start oof the record?
I once saw an 8rpm flexi disc. Since the slowest speed on a turntable (as far as I know) is 16rpm, you'd have to use a turntable with variable speed control (like a Lenco L75) in order to go below 16rpm?
I used a variac to slow it down
Thanks for posting this. How did you play this on a conventional turntable?
Did they not have cassettes back then?
Well, I just got off another channel where somebody actually had a 16 rpm record player, and a record that was specifically made to be played at that speed. (It sounded like a bible verse from Revelations) Ad now I discover they made records that played at EIGHT RPM? Very interesting stuff. I should try and track these down.
I LOVE IT!!! this is 8 rpm and not 16 rpm?
@EmmetEarwax, when you sell it on ebay, it isn't a waste of money....
this is really interesting, difference between news back then and now. a real time machine.
shame you didn't put the whole recording, some news seems really interesting
I remember talking book records, usually 16rpm. I saw an 8 rpm player only once-resembling a school phono, bu tno records.
Talking book records for the blind. I have several of these records (More than 50). Nice machine! I have not seen a machine like this. 16 (Or 16 3/2) is a standard speed, but 8 1/3 is very rare. NICE
many many hours of music can fit on that record! lower quality sound though but still decent!
How did you make this machine play 8 rpm records please.?
I plugged it into a Variac.
How many minutes each Side ?
So, I'm sure that the speed of your player is 16 RPM despite the record presumably a 8 RPM! That's the first time that I discover a 8 RPM! I notice that he voice of the man seems correct despite playing on 16 RPM!
***** They are not greatly rare, but not common either. They were given to blind people by the government. I have a "modern" 8-RPM player, but it's a CD player with special CDs. Also plays normal CDs nicely. I got it from a friend, whose legally blind mother had died a few years back.
@117025 Ah ha... I did the same thing once to bring a Rek-O-Kut turntable down to an accurate speed. But the motor was getting very hot. I thought it might have damaged the motor, so I abandoned the idea. Do you suffer from fear that you may be damaging your RCA turntable motor? And if you do, how do you sleep at night? Ambien?
It's 3 hours per side, as you can fit 45 minutes of speech on one side at 33rpm. Here's how I'd play it: Since I own 2 Garrard 3000's, I can file down the 16rpm shaft on the motor of the bad-sounding one until I get 8rpm, then take the rotor out and put it in the good-sounding one for playing those talking magazines.
An even easier process would be to play the record at 16 or 33 rpm, pipe the audio to your computer and record in Audacity, then reduce the speed in software. No record player modifications required.
Did that on a 16 2/3 rpm, worked well…
Jack White's Third Man Records made a 3 RPM record. Yes, I'M NOT KIDDING. It consists entirely of previously released songs, though, so I consider it a total waste of vinyl... and a royal pain in the ass to manually spin it at the correct speed.
It's not really 3rpm. They just say it is. It's actually a 4-1/6 rpm recording; it was mastered at 16-2/3 rpm with the source material fed to the lathe at 4x normal speed. And even if the 'music' the disc was technically the best mankind ever produced, it would still sound like shit thanks to the ultra-low speed and that f***ed up mastering process. But hey, nobody actually owns a record player capable of such a slow speed, so it's more of a thing you brag about having rather than ever being able to actually, you know, enjoy.
@@xaenon Come to think of it, at that speed some songs might only last one or two full revolutions of the turntable ! :)
7 minutes & the needle still is in the beginning :D really cool!
hope all my psychology books came in this format, haha
how many minutes this record plays per side? THANK YOU!
How in the world did they get the machine to record the rotate slowly so slowly when most of us know that that doesn't exist and apparently does to some extent but how rare were these machines
These records were quite common to blind people cause it was news papers and Magazines put on these records. Due to the slow speed, it was only good for mid range sounds, like speaking. Music at that speed would have less fidelity than an AM radio. It would sound pretty bad.
Well I think the US Library of Congress used them a lot for audio books and similar recordings so that's probably the main thing to look out for to find them. They also made cassette players that have speed control on them which look fun to mess around with. How to actually find any of these to buy I got no idea. Just that that's one source for them
how do you get a player or record like this???
Im curious to hear what music pressed to an 8 rpm would sound like.
this loos like a 12-inch one, which according to wikipedia is 6 hours(!) a side.
Holy smoke ! That is a very long playing time. Did you find this to be the norm for these records, Marco ? You could put a whole work of fiction on one 8 rpm record, then. Good solution for getting the speed down to 8 rpm.
It's 16 RPM. I've got a watch with a second hand and I can count. 16 RPM was used for books and magazines for the blind and for "musack" background music machines. You could put a stack of 7" discs on the "musack" machines (which could play both sides of the disc) and you would not repeat the same track in less than 36 hours.
16 RPM was for spoken word in general. Before tape recorders became ubiquitous a lot of radio programming was mastered on 16 RPM transcription discs.
You might want to check your watch ! :) It's really very close to 8 rpm.
It's 8.57142857143rpm. (not joking) I looked at the record spinning, it does a revolution/spin every 7 seconds. So 60 / 7 = 8.57142857143. If I round that number, I get 8.571. so about 8.6 rpm
Ho long it lasts?
How did you get the turntable to play at 8 RPM ?? Did you alter the idler wheel?
He plugged it into a Variac, which varies the AC voltage.
@@salchst Thanks for the input. Never thought of that. (Heck, 12 years ago, I didn't know what a Variac was. I do now, though). Thanks again.
This would be an interesting listen to me, so I'd really like to find one of those records. But if I do, then I'll have to figure out my own way to bring one of my turntables down to speed - then I'll truly enjoy it!
8 rpm? I have never seen a record - player with the speed "8 rpm"!
@kennyfreestyler88 Actually, I don't know. I haven't played it all the way throught yet.
I think, that this record could run 4 times of a 33 rpm, so 80 minutes per side. The sound is much better, than expected.
I tried to upload this whole record about a year ago but it got rejected.
Actually, it lasts about 2 and a half hours a side. Now that I think about it, I think I'm going to try to re upload this record again in parts.
It's reasonable. The "20 Hits" LPs have less bass and less sound level, so they can contain about 40 minutes per side. When you slow down the speed to 8 rpm, 160 minutes are possible. When you cut low frequencies, I can understand, that a running time about 270 minutes could be possible. And that with micro groove.
"I tried to upload this whole record about a year ago but it got rejected." On RUclips you need a special account for uploading longer videos.
+James Will
You need to verify your account to upload videos longer than 15 minutes. Do not delete the rejected video. There is an option from that rejected video that said "increase your limit". Click that and follow the on screen instruction to verify your account and after you verified your account, the rejected video has another option that said "activate". Click that video is now playable.
Ce qui donne en moyenne 1 heure 30 par face, soit 3 heures pour un vinyle microsillon ! Il n'y aurait pas de craquements si le disque était neuf, seulement la petite distorsion inhérente aux aiguës peu précises à cette vitesse, qui doivent certainement l'être encore moins vers le centre du disque...
fascinating!!!!...I used to get these and cassettes from the Texas State Library even though I can see...it helped me with my reading...wonder if these are stilll made though on CD now,117025???....I have a friend who get them on cassette like I did but wonder if they on CD however?????
I could use this to play back a Frank Zappa album so I can hear it, or the Chipmunks
whoa that's rare
Read by Microsoft David.
I never saw an turntable with 8rpm option.
How would you find record player with 8 rpm
Andy Moscow they were only used for audio books for the blind. There very rare. I was a student at a school for the blind from 2012 to 2016 and only one or two people even knew these players existed if that tells you anything. I found mine at a yard sale about 3 years ago.
Ok, but tell us about the turntable. I've never seen such a turntable that plays 8rpm records :-\
How long does this record play?
Incurable Vinyl Freak Just take the max duration of an LP and its speed, them apply math.
+Betamax Flippy ...I did the math a while ago here, it should easily come to about 90 minutes per side. If you go deeper into the situation you will find that the average surface to pickup speed is about 85 mm/s or about 3.5 inch per second.
Well, it's possible, that a 33 rpm LP could have 60 minutes per side, ok. the sound level and the bass is much reduced. So it could be possible, that an 8 rpm record could contain up to 4 hours/side.
On a spoken word record, you haven't really a need for frequencies below 300 Hz.
Not quite as long as an Mp3.
looks like 16 rpm to me. Would make more sense as this was a common speed on TTs in the 60s, nobody had turntables that could go as low as 8 rpm, in 25 years servicing I've never seen one, anyway.
The National Library service for the blind used 8 1/3 RPM
@MichaelHansenFUN Yes.
I wahnt full book ! Upload mp3
Is anybody interested what this guy is talking about? Quite important staff...
Where did you get a record player that plays 8??? I've seen hundreds of record players and NEVER saw one play slower than 16! I have yet to see a 16 rpm record!!
4G
Roberto Flores Paredes I'll see your 4G and raise you 6L!
Plugged into a Variac.
@@salchst According to what I'm seeing, it's 10 RPM. If it takes 6 seconds to make one revolution, that equates to 10 RPM.
Why would anyone make an 8 or 10 RPM record in the early `70's? 16, okay but 8 or 10?
@@robertofloresparedes6883 What's a 4G?
even better
that's insane!
that is a lengthy T.O.C.
wow 8 rpm why not 1 rpm could there be
looks like it has larger size than the 33 rpm
The label is smaller. I guess, they used everything, what extends the playing time. For spoken word, frequencies below 300 Hz aren't really needed.
u fif not know there wow 8wpm record
if he talked faster couldve recorded at 16rpm