Its a strange thing to do, clearly they will just end up with thousands on Dealer lots, there will be a point where dealers will be refusing allocation, also who has this type of money for just a truck 😞
Screw the people buying these over priced vehicles. They are the real problem. Most of them can’t even afford them. They are the ones keeping this companies afloat. Stay strong and let these greedy companies choke on their stupid dumb decisions!
Selling LESS vehicles is WHY the prices will STAY HIGH on certain POPULAR models ..... with a "few" small discounts on OVER INFLATED MSRP + Mark-ups ........
What is not being widely reported is, how many dealers nation-wide have either closed, or cut ties with specific product lines. Don't expect the big 6 to go out of business. The NA market represents only 25% of their overall international market.
@@sandtoy11510 I said nationally. Not in your local, wherever that is. Feel free to google it if you doubt the increase in closures or dealer networks dropping specific brands.
First off, do NOT pay over list prices for a vehicle. Step 2. Do not buy a vehicle that has anything dealership added. Step 3, do not buy an extended warranty. And my strong suggestion is that if you cannot pay off the vehicle in 3 years, you cannot afford it to begin with. Nothing worse than having a payment, having the vehicle out of warranty, and being stuck with an expensive repair.
@@roguesovereignrogue9124 The 96 Limited Explorer I have stickered for 37K!!!!!!!!!!! Yes its loaded with every toy but that is almost 80k in today's dollars! Still runs well. Has a 7" Android unit and backup camera too 😂😂
@@LAWNPRO I don't recommend that at all. Most people today do not maintain their vehicles. Or they follow the idiot light telling them when it's time for an oil change. And never checking the oil. Ever.
@@boejiden1065 So what did you end up paying for your brand new Chevy Silverado 3/4 ton, that I assume you purchased wouldn't since the f250 was $1600/mo and you "need" a 3/4 ton truck. Not sure why you would even price a ford?
I think the auto makers are wanting to bankrupt the stealerships and this is the way to do it. Then they can sell directly to the public themselves and maybe lower the prices. I know this is a long shot, but hey, it could happen.
1989 F150 30+ years and still kicking. No frills, 4x4, 302, single cab 8' box and a 5 speed. Can't beat old trucks that you can work on and have decently cheap parts
In what world does a 2.3L engine in a pick-up, even a small one, “do the job.” And don’t tell me, “well, it’s turbocharged.” All tat means is the engine life has been cut in half.
All of these autos are run by god damned idiots. Its really not hard: give me a basic 20k truck with roll down windows with a V8 and a bed you can fit full sized sheets of whatever into. You'd sell millions of them. Build the American Kai truck, jfc. The smallest truck you can even buy is like a Maverick, which is still too big. Literally every blue collar brand maximized to sell the biggest, stupidest, most complicated and most expensive vehicles ever designed to older aged dumbasses. This wouldn't have happened without the predatory loans helping these idiots secure a $2000 car payment to get them. I will be laughing while this all burns around me and my 14 year old Xterra
All these auto dealerships are insane and I can remember. I’m dating myself here in 2000. I bought a brand new Ford Ranger fully decked out and it was only $16,000 compared now to $50,000 which just blows my mind and my Ford Ranger back then it’s probably way more reliable than these ones that they’re pushing out now.
May 31, 2009 I bought a new “2008” GMC Sierra SLE-1, crew cab, 5.3. OTD $28,000. In July 2023 I went back to same dealer to buy like truck … YGBSM the cost was $66,000 plus plus plus. OTD was over 70k. I bought a midsize Honda Ridgeline Sport that was loaded with all the options I wanted.
@@JonFTCi love our Focus: i buy distressed ones needing a new clutch (yes the automatics use a clutch) and easily change it out myself. Buy for $800, put another $700 in it; also clean the intake valves due to direct injection and for $1500 i have a very reliable and economical car
I make over $100k year. With my mortgage and bills just to stay afloat in CA, I can’t afford any new car right now or any time in the future. Everything has gone up except my paycheck. These buyers remind me of that commercial where the guy is smiling and says, “I’m in debt up to my ears!”
I tried to pay cash for a new F250 for two weeks. The only way they would budge on price is if I financed. I ended up buying a great used truck. They're no longer selling trucks; they're now selling financing.
It’s the CEO not reading the room! They start online in the 40k range BASE MODEL. It’s insane. If the investors are smart at all that CEO will be removed and prices lowered.
I have ZERO pity for ANY financial pain that either dealers or the manufactures go though .... They have caused their "FORMER" customers plenty of suffering over the past 5 years !!!!
For years the vehicles offered to USA buyers have been getting bigger and more expensive, and smaller cheaper vehicles have been removed from manufacturer's offerings for "reasons". We may have finally hit the point where most people simply cannot afford these ridiculous prices for new vehicles, when they're struggling to pay for groceries.
Old dated designs, uninspiring performance, terrible reliability, teeny tiny baby maverick is a food stamp junk truck, wildly overpriced, screwed everyone w sky high prices and markups, complete loss of china market share, overpriced evs that cant compete, Ceo that sucks = no buyers
Its actually been funny to me the last 10 years of cars or so, just in how ugly they've gotten trying to distinguish themselves from all the other ugly cars. Truck front ends just got bigger, and bigger, and bigger. Sure put some more useless fake vents and louvers and shit all over it. More lights! lol. Kind of like cell phones and other stuff: there really are only so many ways to design it. Eventually its basically perfected and the design starts regressing because engineers and project managers like getting paychecks. That is how we get dumb shit like a "notch" in my tiny phone screen. Modern cars/trucks are all just washing machines with wheels mostly, and are built like them too.
If they don’t get vehicles in the low 40,000 bracket they won’t sell these vehicles for the greedy prices. The average middle class family cannot pay 1,000 a month,plus housing and food cost. There are not that many households that make $ 125,000 or more at the present.
I keep seeing all these videos about them. I deliver parts to their assembly plant in Chicago, and we run those loads 7 days a week. I keep expecting a slowdown, but it ain't happened yet 🤷♂️
I work for a Toyota dealership in Western Washington. We have so many Tundra’s just sitting. Last weekend, a guy drove 8 hours from Boise to buy a 25 Tundra we had that he could not find the color he wanted anywhere near him.
Two weeks ago I bought a new 2024 F150 Star White King Ranch at Auto Nation & got it for $13,000 under MSRP. Of course I had to fly to Texas which is 1000 miles away to purchase it. I found it online and drove it back home.
Should be a slam dunk 4x4 SUV for young men to buy as a first vehicle, entry 30k minimum. They were smoking dirty crack to sell these things as luxury cars. Fucking yuppies took over everything and entirely forgot about the "I just need 4 wheels and a seat to get me to work" crowd.
If something doesn't sell, the only logical thing to do, to increase sales, is to make it more expensive. That surely will boost the sales multiple times over
They are hoping that by saying they will raise msrp next year that people will all run out and buy something!! No one buy anything let's protest with our wallets and prices will crash or they can go bankrupt
I was shocked to learn that to replace the water pump in these front wheel drive Fords (sit down for this) you have to pull the entire engine and front axles.
Friend had a Tundra they replaced the engine. From all the work they did, it created new problems.Coolant leaks. AC leaks.Multiple hood alignment adjustments.Finally lemon lawed it..
Legacy auto wants to break dealers and eliminate them. Dealers add no value only cost. No dealers will help lower costs , inconvenience and buyer discomfort.
only thing missed about Toyota issues that kind of is on all their American made vehicles, is the white paint issues with several models, in some cases some owners have had paint peel off their cars and vans. outside of that, maybe Ford needs to bring back cars with the Focus, and Mondeo / Fusion as they are the only cheap cars they have outside of North America on sale still, and maybe the Chinese market Taurus.
I ordered a Bronco Black Diamond in Canada in August during Employee Pricing incentive. Ford cancelled my order end of October. They can't be hurting too bad when they cancel a confirmed retail order
It's already happening. Watched report about lenders panicking last week. They are repossessing vehicles that buyer couldn't afford and nobody wants even used....lenders are f'd.
Or work hard and make good money. People who make 150-180k combined income probably don't care what Fast food workers think. I bought 2 Mavericks and own a Camry and a Chevy 1/2 ton. 3 of the 4 are paid off.
Nope. Still stupid high prices. About 50% too high. Nope. And I AM in the market to buy, even at end of year deals they are still stupid high… guess I will wait longer…
@@morningsalute03 been looking at 2024 nissan pro 4x for this reason. all the leases are up and I'm seeing some for 30 to 35 k with 15k miles. no super charger. v6 with no giant screens and all the 4x4 i could ever need. Meanwhile i really wanted a 2024 ranger and i was priced at 40k to 44k for significantly less. but.. but.. it has giant screen and wireless car play/ android auto :( (all useless things i could care less about lol). idk. just crazy a ranger xlt be 44k lol
Its not even about what is "affordable" they simply aren't worth what they are asking....whether I CAN afford it or not. I simply won't buy it. I don't think I'm alone. Manufacturers and dealers need to grab hold and pull real hard, and get their heads out of there ___'s
Every vehicle that costs over $45k better have heated, cooled, message seats, panoramic roof, 360 cam, cam rear view mirror, awd/4x4, premium sound system, a 100,000mi bumper to bumper warranty, 2 years free matinance, tinted windows, 10in screens in the headrests, and 4 keys. Because 5 years ago, that $45k vehical cost only $28k. And in most cases NOTHING CHANGED! Same engine/trans 90% same body, 90% same interior. So show me what the extra $17k gets me. I can add everything listed myself for $17k.
I always look at the big number. Never bought a new car and never will. Always bought used cars. Drive them until the wheels fall off. Pay cash in full on the spot. Just bought a 2016 Jeep Patriot High Altitude with 133,000 miles for $8,500. Replace my 2006 Ford Freestyle after 10 years with current 223,000 mileage and only paid $4,700 10 years ago on the Ford.
I was on the way waiting list 3 1/2 years to buy the Ford bronco. At the very end in 2023 because demand was so high they threw me under the bus after waiting all that time and said I could not get the top end model or hardtop. So basically I’m never buying a Ford again after that crap show.
nobodys going to overpay for a recall machine that will still spend the next several years waiting at the dealer for recall parts.if its going to set at the dealers anyway.let them pay the interest for a few years.NOT US.WERE DONE.
Things have changed since 2018, when I bought new a 2018 Chevy Colorado 2.4 L I -4 WT extra cab long bed .They sold me the WT at the price of the base truck About a 4k discount. I paid Cash. The reason I got a good discount,is the truck sat on the lot for over 10 months. Why?, Had a Manual 6 speed transmission! But that is what I wanted. The only truck you can get now with a stick is a Jeep, or possibly a Toyota Tacoma. I paid 26K OTD.
My wife and I were devoted Ford customers for 3+ decades, until the day we walked onto our local dealer lot and saw F150s priced at $98K. Needless to say, we now drive Hyundai.
Those Broncos should be priced around $35K - 45K, paying over $60K for them is an insult to car buyers. I'll add that a $110K Raptor is comedy gold, you can buy a base brand new 992 Porsche 911 Carrera for that kind of coin. I know it's a whole different ballpark in comparison but cmon Ford.
I would 'never' buy a new engine for at least a year or 2. Till they work out the kinks etc. I wanted to buy a Ford Explorer - but they priced them out of my range. I ended up with another brand. Thank you for the video.
The reason Ford and other makes are raising prices is they're still stuck on EV's. Despite huge government subsidies (estimated at roughly $55K/vehicle) , the manufacturers are still losing money forcing them to subsidize EVs by raising prices on the cars that people actually want. Now, the irony is that of all the makers, Ford EV's offerings are really awful. And on top of that, the new president said he's going to remove the (effective) mandate for EVs and will cut the government subsidies. If Farley wasn't so stubborn, he'd be winding down EV production (or making them in China) and figure out ways to lower costs on the cars people want so they could afford them. Henry Ford is rolling over in his grave.
I appreciate these videos! And as a treasure valley resident, it’s even more relevant! Please keep us updated on the super duty truck discounts and sales too! I want to know if they’re getting creative on discounts an/or financing. Thanks!
I bought a 2024 silverado LT Trailboss crew cab with $8k below msrp for $62k I test drove the F150 and new Tundra and both felt like cheap crap with a premium pricetag. I asked Ford for an XLT trim and they brought me an STX out at at pricetag of $62k lol.
After the comments the Ford CEO made, he should be fired by the Board of Directors pronto. I mean raving about how good that Chinese EV he's driving is and he doesn't want to get rid of it...Seriously this guy still has his job.
@@kailexx1962keep paying that $1000/month car payment, renting your single bedroom apartment with your 3 roommates. At least you can brag about your Tremor (when it’s not in the shop under recall).
whats funny is you think its the prices keeping buyers away. try the company's reputation of reliability in their products. they aren't know as 'Found On Road Dead' for nothing.
Don't buy off the lot. Decide what you want and find a smaller dealer who will order it and apply whatever incentives Ford is offering. That dealer is not gonna be in a metro area and is not going to have a lot full of unsold trucks.
Here's the real problem. Auto makers got greedy. So they priced them to where only 20% of the population can afford one. After sales plummet due to pricing out 50% of their old customers. Their brilliant idea is raise prices more.
Eight years ago those Ford 150's were going for $38,000. How does Ford justify the new price of $68,000 or more? So now they can't sell them and are discounting a little bit. Inventory will be costing the dealers on their floor plans now. So dealers will be pressuring Ford for discounts to move out the 2023-2024 inventory. If you don't have to buy wait, prices will come down.
Considering we have been in a recession for a little over a year and a half, coupled with the fact that too many idiots bought their current vehicles way, way over MSRP and are upside down and can't trade them in, there isn't any surprise that cars are not selling. That and the high prices as you have stated.
I think the Ford salesman are so used to not selling cars, that I went to the dealership twice now and haven't been bugged by any of those pesky salesman to come out and try to sell me a car.
they do the same at all dealers now. cuz it's all online now. the only people coming to a dealership is to pickup their new car or do an oil change. nobody walks the dealer lot anymore. At least that's what's been told to me.
Dude I'm jealous you actually have Broncos on the lot. I only have a few here at any time in western WA, and the markdowns are not much....maybe $6.5k on a 24, which is still crazy for a $62k Wildtrak.
the life expectancy of a new vehicle is 12 years. the average length of car ownership is 8 years. we need to keep this is mind when buying a new vehicle.
If they can afford to take off 10, 12, 15k off msrp that means it’s way overpriced to begin with. Man we not stupid. Consumers gauge value on how long they last before major problems. Meaning any issues that will cost 1k or more to fix. 5 years go by and you have tranny problems or major engine problems and you still owe 20k on the vehicle. It’s not worth a repeat buy. Especially for more money than 5 years ago.
Toyota's problem is the 0 grade oil they are using to beat emissions, 0 grade means 0 sheer, it's why they have metal on metal showing when they pull the engine down but they are blaming machining swarf.
I have a '21 F-150 Platinum Powerboost. Bought it at MSRP with (then) "cheap" finance. Turned out to be a great deal and a great truck. A friend with two Transits for his business treats them like tax deductions, so he'll pay fleet price and fit it out, sell it at 50K miles to get the next deduction and profit from the sale of a fully prepared, low mile work van, and they run great mpg, less expensive insurance, and reliable. Ford is wrong to think that what is still a 2021 Powerboost can sell in 2025. It has a 1.5kWh battery and almost no electric motor power. It's a great mobile 7.2kW generator and home backup. But it needs 10x the battery and I dunno at least enough electric motor to make it smooth to drive, smooth to accelerate away from a red light without the electric and the gas *_always_* confused and making hard shifts from a standing start. I'll look at getting a '25 with a steep discount, if they've got the transmission shifting sorted out. Mine has been reliable and it is a great pickup, family vehicle, and weekend camping and riding bikes (far) off-road, but the range-extender EVs are coming on the market, so I can also decide to hold this F-150 Prius for a few more months, sell it privately, and get a RAM REV which will be my first Dodge, ever. For towing and long range without an expensive and slow-to-charge 200kWh battery, a range-extender seems to be the logical solution … cheap to drive on electric every day, then no problem to tow 10K without having 1 hour charging stops. I've had Ford and GM, but they're advertising that they're not building a competitive full size pickup range extender EV.
They need a 50% discount to make any new vehicle worth buying. Yet I see brand new cars with dealer tags every day. With these prices and interest rates the dealers aren't getting my money. Also, the repossession rate right now is approaching 10%. Banks are paying the repo man big bonuses to get bumped to the head of the line to get some of their cars back quicker.
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No ford should be priced above 45k.
Ford before: Fighting for the working class demographic
Ford now: Fighting for the 1%
because the family lost it.
Dealers got so spoiled during covid charging mark ups and overpriced inventory that now they refuse to lower prices.
exactly..
Its a strange thing to do, clearly they will just end up with thousands on Dealer lots, there will be a point where dealers will be refusing allocation, also who has this type of money for just a truck 😞
its on purpose so you buy a electric car.
@@mikythesaint6507 lots of people are buying them lol
Every industry is price gouging. These greedy CEOs and their investors only see short term gains.
Screw the people buying these over priced vehicles. They are the real problem. Most of them can’t even afford them. They are the ones keeping this companies afloat. Stay strong and let these greedy companies choke on their stupid dumb decisions!
I've been reading that the car market is done for the last 3 years. RUclips is the new national enquirer
Selling LESS vehicles is WHY the prices will STAY HIGH on certain POPULAR models ..... with a "few" small discounts on OVER INFLATED MSRP + Mark-ups ........
What is not being widely reported is, how many dealers nation-wide have either closed, or cut ties with specific product lines. Don't expect the big 6 to go out of business. The NA market represents only 25% of their overall international market.
@@2_Bike_is_Life ok.. Still see plenty of car dealerships if I need purchase a vehicle
@@sandtoy11510 I said nationally. Not in your local, wherever that is. Feel free to google it if you doubt the increase in closures or dealer networks dropping specific brands.
See new temp plates all over Washington state while I'm driving.
First off, do NOT pay over list prices for a vehicle. Step 2. Do not buy a vehicle that has anything dealership added. Step 3, do not buy an extended warranty.
And my strong suggestion is that if you cannot pay off the vehicle in 3 years, you cannot afford it to begin with. Nothing worse than having a payment, having the vehicle out of warranty, and being stuck with an expensive repair.
Yes. The vast majority of people can’t afford these vehicles under your criteria. They are FAR TOO EXPENSIVE
Step 10 buy used and save 90 percent
Step 10 buy used and save 90 percent
@@roguesovereignrogue9124 The 96 Limited Explorer I have stickered for 37K!!!!!!!!!!! Yes its loaded with every toy but that is almost 80k in today's dollars! Still runs well. Has a 7" Android unit and backup camera too 😂😂
@@LAWNPRO I don't recommend that at all. Most people today do not maintain their vehicles. Or they follow the idiot light telling them when it's time for an oil change. And never checking the oil. Ever.
50% off is the only answer ...
But they are only worth about 25% of the dollar. You forgot all the repair bills that your going to get stuck paying.
@@metro143 , very true
$63k for that Bronco is ridiculous.
I’d couldn’t justify paying that much for one 😢
We are living in the bizzarro world.
20k for a top of the line bronco should be fine same for toyota camry
$65 is too much for those pieces of shit.
@@brontoab1 It makes perfect sense once you realize that things aren't getting expensive, the USD just keeps losing value.
$1500 off on a $45,000 ride isn't that impressive
Wow a 3% discount. Their generosity knows no bounds.
They really think they're giving you something with the BS discounts . Make it 10 or 15k and they will have my attention . Greed is a bad thing
I can't stand the new pricing for vehicles. I hope Ford chokes on their decision. For 80 to 100.000 I might as well get a Lamborghini. Bunch of B.S.
I need an f250 and had that same conversation with my wife this morning. I’m not making a $1600 payment for a fucking truck.
A new silverado is $82,600, why is this fords fault?
@@boejiden1065 So what did you end up paying for your brand new Chevy Silverado 3/4 ton, that I assume you purchased wouldn't since the f250 was $1600/mo and you "need" a 3/4 ton truck. Not sure why you would even price a ford?
I think the auto makers are wanting to bankrupt the stealerships and this is the way to do it. Then they can sell directly to the public themselves and maybe lower the prices. I know this is a long shot, but hey, it could happen.
The only way you can defeat this is to stop buying them.
1989 F150 30+ years and still kicking. No frills, 4x4, 302, single cab 8' box and a 5 speed. Can't beat old trucks that you can work on and have decently cheap parts
Obviously don’t live in the rust belt.
Discounts don't mean much when the MSRP is 20% higher than what it is supposed to be.
In what world does a 2.3L engine in a pick-up, even a small one, “do the job.”
And don’t tell me, “well, it’s turbocharged.”
All tat means is the engine life has been cut in half.
BINGO!! Well Said
Exactly. 👍
Depends what the job is.
If they could make the whole thing out of soda bottle plastic they would
"All that means is the engine life has been cut in off"
Well somebody has been living under a rock and ignoring Toyota motors for the past 40 years.
If they keep putting turbos and internal water pumps etc i will not buy one
If something is over priced to begin with and they mark it down your not really saving anything because it was priced too high to start.
People don't like owing more on their automobiles than their house! It's crazy
More than their trailer you mean? C’mon now a little hyperbole 😂
Ford needs to make the coyote V8 and simplify/get rid of all the bs. Make more 8ft bed trucks that are actually built" Ford tough" for fair price
All of these autos are run by god damned idiots. Its really not hard: give me a basic 20k truck with roll down windows with a V8 and a bed you can fit full sized sheets of whatever into. You'd sell millions of them. Build the American Kai truck, jfc. The smallest truck you can even buy is like a Maverick, which is still too big.
Literally every blue collar brand maximized to sell the biggest, stupidest, most complicated and most expensive vehicles ever designed to older aged dumbasses. This wouldn't have happened without the predatory loans helping these idiots secure a $2000 car payment to get them. I will be laughing while this all burns around me and my 14 year old Xterra
@breach005 absolutely. Well said
RIP all those Bronco owners that bought for $5k over MSRP, they are now going to be upside down on their loans by at least -$15k 😂
These are the same kind of dinks that are putting Doordash on a credit card daily
I made $10,500 just letting someone take my 2021 Bronco allocation.
All these auto dealerships are insane and I can remember. I’m dating myself here in 2000. I bought a brand new Ford Ranger fully decked out and it was only $16,000 compared now to $50,000 which just blows my mind and my Ford Ranger back then it’s probably way more reliable than these ones that they’re pushing out now.
May 31, 2009 I bought a new “2008” GMC Sierra SLE-1, crew cab, 5.3. OTD $28,000. In July 2023 I went back to same dealer to buy like truck … YGBSM the cost was $66,000 plus plus plus. OTD was over 70k. I bought a midsize Honda Ridgeline Sport that was loaded with all the options I wanted.
Ford needs to make a really cheap affordable car with a simple design, simple interior, no table sized screen and good reliability.
They did it was the maverick. The hybrid started at 19,999 originally, now the same trucklet starts at 26k for the same power train.
It was called the ford focus but they discontinued it.
@@JonFTCi love our Focus: i buy distressed ones needing a new clutch (yes the automatics use a clutch) and easily change it out myself. Buy for $800, put another $700 in it; also clean the intake valves due to direct injection and for $1500 i have a very reliable and economical car
Hard to do when you're making EVs that no one wants, which forces them to make up losses on these rigs.
Get rid of all the nanny electronic crap like adaptive cruise control, lane keep, etc.
No way people can afford these. $32k for a tiny “truck” is insane.
Its built on a car chassis, its basically a Subaru Outback
Bought my 2005 half ton Silverado new for $18K. There is no reason auto makers can't produce trucks today that are $25K or under.
I make over $100k year. With my mortgage and bills just to stay afloat in CA, I can’t afford any new car right now or any time in the future. Everything has gone up except my paycheck. These buyers remind me of that commercial where the guy is smiling and says, “I’m in debt up to my ears!”
That's a great wage you doing really good though as high as everything is even making good money can't afford everything
has nothing to do with the car but if only women could understand this concept 😂
Ive been watching other videos from people half my age in 50x more debt lately.
Yeah this is all ending badly lol
I live at Elk Grove/ California, house paid off, bought a 23 TRD off road with cash 💵 last year !😊😊😊😊
@@andyhuang7526 so how many women's you conquered fyi we were put here to fuck and die
I tried to pay cash for a new F250 for two weeks. The only way they would budge on price is if I financed. I ended up buying a great used truck. They're no longer selling trucks; they're now selling financing.
A few weeks ago I bought a new Ford Ranger. In my area (north of Seattle) it seemed like most dealers had just a few Rangers, but had lots of F-150’s.
Never buying new again, I would rather drop 12k on a new engine in an otherwise decent truck than give the dealers/Manufacturers another dime.
Money well spent. I surmise the way to go is a junk yard motor with low miles all sealed up in the garage, for that rainy day.
Cost on those Broncos are probably 30k...greedy dealers
Yeah, for $60k I should be able to get a 24 BRaptor. Those are still $90k. 🤯
sold cars in college. no way 30k. maybe 50k
@@FunkyBobFett you don't want a craptor....
It’s the CEO not reading the room! They start online in the 40k range BASE MODEL. It’s insane. If the investors are smart at all that CEO will be removed and prices lowered.
Well at least it’s not the Jaguar marketing department.
They should team up with Disney, maybe they can finally find this "modern audience" together they keep making products for
light up a bud a big fat one
They put a new meaning to the automotive necessity of a "trans-mission"
I have ZERO pity for ANY financial pain that either dealers or the manufactures go though .... They have caused their "FORMER" customers plenty of suffering over the past 5 years !!!!
For years the vehicles offered to USA buyers have been getting bigger and more expensive, and smaller cheaper vehicles have been removed from manufacturer's offerings for "reasons".
We may have finally hit the point where most people simply cannot afford these ridiculous prices for new vehicles, when they're struggling to pay for groceries.
Old dated designs, uninspiring performance, terrible reliability, teeny tiny baby maverick is a food stamp junk truck, wildly overpriced, screwed everyone w sky high prices and markups, complete loss of china market share, overpriced evs that cant compete, Ceo that sucks = no buyers
Its actually been funny to me the last 10 years of cars or so, just in how ugly they've gotten trying to distinguish themselves from all the other ugly cars. Truck front ends just got bigger, and bigger, and bigger. Sure put some more useless fake vents and louvers and shit all over it. More lights! lol.
Kind of like cell phones and other stuff: there really are only so many ways to design it. Eventually its basically perfected and the design starts regressing because engineers and project managers like getting paychecks. That is how we get dumb shit like a "notch" in my tiny phone screen.
Modern cars/trucks are all just washing machines with wheels mostly, and are built like them too.
@@streamingdemon2522 recall R Rama!
If they don’t get vehicles in the low 40,000 bracket they won’t sell these vehicles for the greedy prices. The average middle class family cannot pay 1,000 a month,plus housing and food cost. There are not that many households that make $ 125,000 or more at the present.
Chevy is smart being the first to drop their prices. They are getting the first wave of people that were on the fence.
I keep seeing all these videos about them. I deliver parts to their assembly plant in Chicago, and we run those loads 7 days a week. I keep expecting a slowdown, but it ain't happened yet 🤷♂️
Just wait!
All these companies are trying to scam everyone I’m keeping my 2012 Ram I only drive 3500 miles here year so I’m gonna keep it another 12 years
I work for a Toyota dealership in Western Washington. We have so many Tundra’s just sitting. Last weekend, a guy drove 8 hours from Boise to buy a 25 Tundra we had that he could not find the color he wanted anywhere near him.
Two weeks ago I bought a new 2024 F150 Star White King Ranch at Auto Nation & got it for $13,000 under MSRP. Of course I had to fly to Texas which is 1000 miles away to purchase it. I found it online and drove it back home.
So you probably still over laid by 7K
A maverick should be low 20s 30s should get you into at least a ranger
when they first came out, the maverick was suppose to be 20 grand
They aren’t even worth that, maybe $12,000
@@patrickking2550 especially since it's a car....
Should be a slam dunk 4x4 SUV for young men to buy as a first vehicle, entry 30k minimum. They were smoking dirty crack to sell these things as luxury cars. Fucking yuppies took over everything and entirely forgot about the "I just need 4 wheels and a seat to get me to work" crowd.
@@Support_Ad_Blocker and its made in Mexico
Toyota needs to bring back their V8 engine. Worst move Toyota made were going to a V6 turbo charged engine in their full size trucks.
Next to nobody can afford this nonsense.
Chevy is discounting the trail boss 16,000$ all over the nation. I may jump. That's actually fair price.
I want car dealers to sell direct to the public so I don't have to negotiate with a professional liar
Car manufacturer....direct to buyer..no middle man dealership. I just buy used Toyotas...
As a lay person, none of these, NONE OF THESE, is worth more than $30k. Period.
I'm more worried about the number of RUclipsrs who will go out of business once the Car companies finally collapse.
None of them will. Plenty of crap to discuss. Lol.
If something doesn't sell, the only logical thing to do, to increase sales, is to make it more expensive. That surely will boost the sales multiple times over
Only in America.
They are hoping that by saying they will raise msrp next year that people will all run out and buy something!! No one buy anything let's protest with our wallets and prices will crash or they can go bankrupt
I was shocked to learn that to replace the water pump in these front wheel drive Fords (sit down for this) you have to pull the entire engine and front axles.
I ain't real big on the belt driven oil pump in the newer Coyote V8.
I guess it does fix the issue of harmonics sometimes grenading the oil pump.
Friend had a Tundra they replaced the engine. From all the work they did, it created new problems.Coolant leaks. AC leaks.Multiple hood alignment adjustments.Finally lemon lawed it..
Legacy auto wants to break dealers and eliminate them. Dealers add no value only cost. No dealers will help lower costs , inconvenience and buyer discomfort.
That MSRP price is BS. Doesn't cost that much to make that car.
only thing missed about Toyota issues that kind of is on all their American made vehicles, is the white paint issues with several models, in some cases some owners have had paint peel off their cars and vans.
outside of that, maybe Ford needs to bring back cars with the Focus, and Mondeo / Fusion as they are the only cheap cars they have outside of North America on sale still, and maybe the Chinese market Taurus.
I've noticed that white and blue seem to be the 2 colors with paint peeling issues, over several brands!
The Maverick isn’t hit because it’s a good "mid-size"it’s just that it’s among the bottom of more affordable mid-size trucks along with the Frontier.
mavericks were supposed to be a home run at 23k. now they are 32k?
Upper trim Mavericks are 40k and up.
@@dvader3263 wow. why did then even introduce it at 20k?
yep
I ordered a Bronco Black Diamond in Canada in August during Employee Pricing incentive. Ford cancelled my order end of October. They can't be hurting too bad when they cancel a confirmed retail order
Back in 2020, production costs of the f-150 was approximately $6,000 per unit. I don't know what it is now, but it can't be much higher than that.
Thinking about starting my own repossession business soon. I see a lot of loans going into default real soon.
It's already happening. Watched report about lenders panicking last week.
They are repossessing vehicles that buyer couldn't afford and nobody wants even used....lenders are f'd.
I guess Farley wants to clear out the '24s at high prices by making the '25s even higher priced.
only people that can afford these, are living in their parents basement.
Or the attic.
Or work hard and make good money. People who make 150-180k combined income probably don't care what Fast food workers think.
I bought 2 Mavericks and own a Camry and a Chevy 1/2 ton. 3 of the 4 are paid off.
Nope. Still stupid high prices. About 50% too high. Nope. And I AM in the market to buy, even at end of year deals they are still stupid high… guess I will wait longer…
Same boat. I want a smaller truck. Just can't find anything too reasonable. We are on the right track with these price drops.
You are better off buying used or just keeping what you have and taking care of it.😐
@@morningsalute03 been looking at 2024 nissan pro 4x for this reason. all the leases are up and I'm seeing some for 30 to 35 k with 15k miles. no super charger. v6 with no giant screens and all the 4x4 i could ever need.
Meanwhile i really wanted a 2024 ranger and i was priced at 40k to 44k for significantly less. but.. but.. it has giant screen and wireless car play/ android auto :( (all useless things i could care less about lol). idk. just crazy a ranger xlt be 44k lol
Its not even about what is "affordable" they simply aren't worth what they are asking....whether I CAN afford it or not. I simply won't buy it. I don't think I'm alone. Manufacturers and dealers need to grab hold and pull real hard, and get their heads out of there ___'s
@beepino7 I think the Nissan is the only truck out there that is even in the ballpark of being the right price for the product.
Every vehicle that costs over $45k better have heated, cooled, message seats, panoramic roof, 360 cam, cam rear view mirror, awd/4x4, premium sound system, a 100,000mi bumper to bumper warranty, 2 years free matinance, tinted windows, 10in screens in the headrests, and 4 keys. Because 5 years ago, that $45k vehical cost only $28k. And in most cases NOTHING CHANGED! Same engine/trans 90% same body, 90% same interior. So show me what the extra $17k gets me. I can add everything listed myself for $17k.
So how many videos posts are you going to claim "IT's OVER"? "They're Done"? I mean c'mon, enough is enough.
been going on since 2021. these so called vlogger 'experts'
Anything over $50k is wild. Who can afford that with insurance, fuel and maintenance?
It's called 10 year financing. People don't look at the big number at the bottom of the page. They care about the monthly note.
@@morningsalute03until their warranty runs out with 7 years of payments ahead.
I always look at the big number. Never bought a new car and never will. Always bought used cars. Drive them until the wheels fall off. Pay cash in full on the spot. Just bought a 2016 Jeep Patriot High Altitude with 133,000 miles for $8,500. Replace my 2006 Ford Freestyle after 10 years with current 223,000 mileage and only paid $4,700 10 years ago on the Ford.
@ that’s just fiscally irresponsible
I have a 1999 f 150 that I think will out last any of the new ones and if it needs a repair I can do it with out costing thousand of dollars labor
That white ranger is thee same size as a 92 F150. The new F150 cost as much as a house because it’s as big as one.
Not to worry, an entry level house will soon be $1,000,000 so the cars look cheap again
They'll crush them before they sell them cheap.
I was on the way waiting list 3 1/2 years to buy the Ford bronco. At the very end in 2023 because demand was so high they threw me under the bus after waiting all that time and said I could not get the top end model or hardtop. So basically I’m never buying a Ford again after that crap show.
nobodys going to overpay for a recall machine that will still spend the next several years waiting at the dealer for recall parts.if its going to set at the dealers anyway.let them pay the interest for a few years.NOT US.WERE DONE.
I drove through my local for dealer lot. Packed with unsold inventory. Not one discount sticker on any vehicle at all.
Things have changed since 2018, when I bought new a 2018 Chevy Colorado 2.4 L I -4 WT extra cab long bed .They sold me the WT at the price of the base truck About a 4k discount. I paid Cash. The reason I got a good discount,is the truck sat on the lot for over 10 months. Why?, Had a Manual 6 speed transmission! But that is what I wanted. The only truck you can get now with a stick is a Jeep, or possibly a Toyota Tacoma. I paid 26K OTD.
My wife and I were devoted Ford customers for 3+ decades, until the day we walked onto our local dealer lot and saw F150s priced at $98K. Needless to say, we now drive Hyundai.
Those Broncos should be priced around $35K - 45K, paying over $60K for them is an insult to car buyers. I'll add that a $110K Raptor is comedy gold, you can buy a base brand new 992 Porsche 911 Carrera for that kind of coin. I know it's a whole different ballpark in comparison but cmon Ford.
Yes, just shows how the Porsche price is really outrageous.
I would 'never' buy a new engine for at least a year or 2. Till they work out the kinks etc. I wanted to buy a Ford Explorer - but they priced them out of my range. I ended up with another brand. Thank you for the video.
The reason Ford and other makes are raising prices is they're still stuck on EV's. Despite huge government subsidies (estimated at roughly $55K/vehicle) , the manufacturers are still losing money forcing them to subsidize EVs by raising prices on the cars that people actually want.
Now, the irony is that of all the makers, Ford EV's offerings are really awful. And on top of that, the new president said he's going to remove the (effective) mandate for EVs and will cut the government subsidies. If Farley wasn't so stubborn, he'd be winding down EV production (or making them in China) and figure out ways to lower costs on the cars people want so they could afford them.
Henry Ford is rolling over in his grave.
I appreciate these videos! And as a treasure valley resident, it’s even more relevant! Please keep us updated on the super duty truck discounts and sales too! I want to know if they’re getting creative on discounts an/or financing. Thanks!
Me too. In the market currently and the prices are absurd
I bought a 2024 silverado LT Trailboss crew cab with $8k below msrp for $62k I test drove the F150 and new Tundra and both felt like cheap crap with a premium pricetag. I asked Ford for an XLT trim and they brought me an STX out at at pricetag of $62k lol.
After the comments the Ford CEO made, he should be fired by the Board of Directors pronto. I mean raving about how good that Chinese EV he's driving is and he doesn't want to get rid of it...Seriously this guy still has his job.
I will not pay over 30k for any brand
You are SMART!
You mean 18k. These aren't houses. They're cars.
Good luck with that.
@@zachhatten7740 You live in a $30K house?
@@kailexx1962keep paying that $1000/month car payment, renting your single bedroom apartment with your 3 roommates. At least you can brag about your Tremor (when it’s not in the shop under recall).
car companies will have to reduce volume for the next couple of years. I see us bailing them out as these cars head for the crusher.
whats funny is you think its the prices keeping buyers away. try the company's reputation of reliability in their products. they aren't know as 'Found On Road Dead' for nothing.
Don't buy off the lot. Decide what you want and find a smaller dealer who will order it and apply whatever incentives Ford is offering. That dealer is not gonna be in a metro area and is not going to have a lot full of unsold trucks.
Here's the real problem. Auto makers got greedy. So they priced them to where only 20% of the population can afford one. After sales plummet due to pricing out 50% of their old customers. Their brilliant idea is raise prices more.
Eight years ago those Ford 150's were going for $38,000. How does Ford justify the new price of $68,000 or more? So now they can't sell them and are discounting a little bit. Inventory will be costing the dealers on their floor plans now. So dealers will be pressuring Ford for discounts to move out the 2023-2024 inventory. If you don't have to buy wait, prices will come down.
I think nissan needs to revamp the look of the titans and keep the old engine and keep making them
Prius is a car for city commuters. That’s the mileage advantage, not highways.
In all my life , I have Never liked a Ford Ranger , Never 👎🏿
Send in the press: a whole row of Broncos actually gone off-road!
Considering we have been in a recession for a little over a year and a half, coupled with the fact that too many idiots bought their current vehicles way, way over MSRP and are upside down and can't trade them in, there isn't any surprise that cars are not selling. That and the high prices as you have stated.
in 1996, i bought a Eddie Bauer Bronco for 30K. My salary has not quite doubled since 96 but everything other than my pay is up 3-5x....
I think the Ford salesman are so used to not selling cars, that I went to the dealership twice now and haven't been bugged by any of those pesky salesman to come out and try to sell me a car.
they do the same at all dealers now. cuz it's all online now. the only people coming to a dealership is to pickup their new car or do an oil change. nobody walks the dealer lot anymore. At least that's what's been told to me.
Dude I'm jealous you actually have Broncos on the lot. I only have a few here at any time in western WA, and the markdowns are not much....maybe $6.5k on a 24, which is still crazy for a $62k Wildtrak.
Ya. Better deals here. Close enough for you to fly and drive home. 😂
@@MotorFeedseriously! Might need to grab some In-n-Out before heading back in the rig.
Deals/inventory are always better in Idaho.
@@CommonSense823 everything is better in Idaho.
@ true
the life expectancy of a new vehicle is 12 years. the average length of car ownership is 8 years. we need to keep this is mind when buying a new vehicle.
This shows the truth about why everything is so expensive… and it’s not caused by one man; this is corporate greed amplified.
If they can afford to take off 10, 12, 15k off msrp that means it’s way overpriced to begin with. Man we not stupid. Consumers gauge value on how long they last before major problems. Meaning any issues that will cost 1k or more to fix. 5 years go by and you have tranny problems or major engine problems and you still owe 20k on the vehicle. It’s not worth a repeat buy. Especially for more money than 5 years ago.
People are learning to go without because they have been for the last 4 years
Toyota's problem is the 0 grade oil they are using to beat emissions, 0 grade means 0 sheer, it's why they have metal on metal showing when they pull the engine down but they are blaming machining swarf.
I just looked at a local Ford dealer and they have 84 Broncos for sale.
so can i get an F-150 Raptor or Ranger Raptor for less than MSRP? I doubt it.
I have a '21 F-150 Platinum Powerboost.
Bought it at MSRP with (then) "cheap" finance.
Turned out to be a great deal and a great truck.
A friend with two Transits for his business treats them like tax deductions, so he'll pay fleet price and fit it out, sell it at 50K miles to get the next deduction and profit from the sale of a fully prepared, low mile work van, and they run great mpg, less expensive insurance, and reliable.
Ford is wrong to think that what is still a 2021 Powerboost can sell in 2025. It has a 1.5kWh battery and almost no electric motor power. It's a great mobile 7.2kW generator and home backup. But it needs 10x the battery and I dunno at least enough electric motor to make it smooth to drive, smooth to accelerate away from a red light without the electric and the gas *_always_* confused and making hard shifts from a standing start.
I'll look at getting a '25 with a steep discount, if they've got the transmission shifting sorted out. Mine has been reliable and it is a great pickup, family vehicle, and weekend camping and riding bikes (far) off-road, but the range-extender EVs are coming on the market, so I can also decide to hold this F-150 Prius for a few more months, sell it privately, and get a RAM REV which will be my first Dodge, ever. For towing and long range without an expensive and slow-to-charge 200kWh battery, a range-extender seems to be the logical solution … cheap to drive on electric every day, then no problem to tow 10K without having 1 hour charging stops.
I've had Ford and GM, but they're advertising that they're not building a competitive full size pickup range extender EV.
They need a 50% discount to make any new vehicle worth buying. Yet I see brand new cars with dealer tags every day. With these prices and interest rates the dealers aren't getting my money. Also, the repossession rate right now is approaching 10%. Banks are paying the repo man big bonuses to get bumped to the head of the line to get some of their cars back quicker.
Even with the $ off MSRP, people will still walk out paying the original full price or more after dealer fees, taxes, tag, and warranty upgrades.