Thank you so much for this. I knew about this feature for my R7 when I bought it but hadn't activated it yet. I have recently started shooting BIF more often and this (plus the shortcut) will be a big help.
I'm waiting for the R5 Mark II and hope that RAW burst mode will be available in this camera. Hopefully the RAW files will then be written directly to the CF Express card. Until then, I'll continue to enjoy the R5 and try to read the animals in order to capture the right moment every now and then. Uwe
This is a fantastic technology. this is driving BIF photography and the development of the budget priced telephoto lenses. Crazy and this is a breakthrough for BIR and action photography. The experienced photographer knows how much this takes to get the action shot. This put Olympus back on the market as a "wildlife" system. But it requires a bunch of settings that is often neglected for exposure and speed. So this automatic photography is great, attracting a lot of people to bird photography.
Canon is a little late to the party as was Nikon. The only thing that surprises me is that Sony didn't intro this feature. Way to go OLY! Thanks for the vid.
Fujifilm has the similar PRE-SHOT ES. Fuji have had it since at least 2019, but not many people know about it. It works really well for wildlife. Once the shutter button is fully pressed it writes Raw / JPG straight to memory (no intermediate step unlike the Canon). Looking forward to using this technique in Chobe in November.
Nikon also has Pre Burst on the Z8 and Z9 which wasnt mentioned in the Video . .. My Z7 I had 1 out of 100 keepers but my new Z8 with one outing shot 1234 pics taken >> 98 % Keepers with the 180-600 and I have just begun learning..What a Camera and I am on page ONE in the learning situation Nikon Z9 and Z8 has a Electronic shutter only = non Obsolete forever (Mechanical Shutter cameras have Limited Shuttercounts) >> Z8 and Z9 are the only cameras with No Mechanical Shutters
Thanks for this informative video. I just hope, that in the future cameras, Canon will implement pre-shooting in a better way. It's a great function, but currently it is very inconvenient and hard to use. You should be able to toggle this on/off easily while shooting (without the need of looking into the menu), with a single click of a button on camera. The images should also be written normally to the card, as standard RAW files.
Hi - nice vid, thanks for making it! Pre-shooting is a great setting, but I didn't realise it was new. For example Fujifilm have had it for years (sorry don't know how many). Cheers.
Hopefully in the future they will write all the RAWs to the card so you don't have to extract them in camera or with DPP. The OM-1 does this now as well as lets you select how many pre/post shots you want and at various frame rates. Maybe in the R1??
Having used both Olympus and Panasonics preburst function and now canon I can say that canon has a long way to go on this. Yes it is a feature that works but managing the images after the fact the way canon has implemented this is a nightmare. I bought a used R7 and a 100-400mm to try out this feature Mostly due to the bigger sensor and resolution. And was a bit underwhelmed The R7 focus even on static subjects seemed to just randomly loose focus for no apperent reason even when the body or eye boxes were on the birds. That was a bit frustrating. May be something I have set wrong but I don’t have that issue with my oly or pany in the same situations.
Charl, This is a very informative video. Is this possible with the Nikon Z8 mirrorless camera ? if so please do a similar video demonstrating these functions on the Nikon Z8 camera. Thank you.
I'm really missing pre-shooting in R3 and in my R5. I was hoping that, after it was implemented in Canon's lower-end cameras, maybe they will add this with a firmware update for R5, but well... it's Canon, so of course it didn't happen ☹️
Canon Pre-capture is almost ok, really needs a few more options ie time etc, the software using DPP is a pain and selecting in camera also poor. Buffering is a nightmare.
Yes just got the A9 III - it's a beast. Pre-capture, 120fps RAW with full autofocus, burst mode, composite RAW. Nice thing is they are just normal RAW files, none of this funny extract business required by the Canon.
I haven't watched yet but will when I get home, But from what I see Olympus still has better implementation than Canon one push of a button and your in pro capture, My R7 that I had wasn't like that you had to go into the menu unless I did something wrong, Now Nikon forget about them stupid 11mpix and jpeg only I've never laughed so hard in my life.
@@PangolinWildlife yes I did and it's good like that, I have an R3 and I don't think we'll be seeing a firmware update to add it which is to bad, I also have the Z8 and am waiting for the rumored firmware update to add pre capture raw and if not I'm going all Canon.
Have you tried this feature yet? Let us know your thoughts on this below.
Thank you Charl for this video. I have now changed the function on one button on my R7 so it is easy to switch the function off and on!
Thank you so much for this. I knew about this feature for my R7 when I bought it but hadn't activated it yet. I have recently started shooting BIF more often and this (plus the shortcut) will be a big help.
I'm waiting for the R5 Mark II and hope that RAW burst mode will be available in this camera. Hopefully the RAW files will then be written directly to the CF Express card. Until then, I'll continue to enjoy the R5 and try to read the animals in order to capture the right moment every now and then.
Uwe
Am sure the mark 2 will be along soon!
This is a fantastic technology. this is driving BIF photography and the development of the budget priced telephoto lenses. Crazy and this is a breakthrough for BIR and action photography. The experienced photographer knows how much this takes to get the action shot. This put Olympus back on the market as a "wildlife" system. But it requires a bunch of settings that is often neglected for exposure and speed. So this automatic photography is great, attracting a lot of people to bird photography.
Agreed. Thank you for your comment.
Canon is a little late to the party as was Nikon. The only thing that surprises me is that Sony didn't intro this feature. Way to go OLY! Thanks for the vid.
Thanks for sharing
Fujifilm has the similar PRE-SHOT ES. Fuji have had it since at least 2019, but not many people know about it. It works really well for wildlife. Once the shutter button is fully pressed it writes Raw / JPG straight to memory (no intermediate step unlike the Canon). Looking forward to using this technique in Chobe in November.
Looking forward to seeing you too!
Thank you Charl for this good tutorial and the exzellent tipp at the End, Barbara from Switzerland
You are very welcome
Great video Stols. Thank you for showing us the way to access raw burst mode very fast without going through the menus. ❤👌🙏
No problem 👍
raw burst Modus is really awesome. got the kingfisher in flight with this function. it's amazing
Great to hear!
Nikon also has Pre Burst on the Z8 and Z9 which wasnt mentioned in the Video
. .. My Z7 I had 1 out of 100 keepers but my new Z8 with one outing shot 1234 pics taken >> 98 % Keepers with the 180-600 and I have just begun learning..What a Camera and I am on page ONE in the learning situation
Nikon Z9 and Z8 has a Electronic shutter only = non Obsolete forever (Mechanical Shutter cameras have Limited Shuttercounts) >> Z8 and Z9 are the only cameras with No Mechanical Shutters
I havent tried Pre Burst yet as I didnt need it it seems >>on my first outing
Thanks for this informative video. I just hope, that in the future cameras, Canon will implement pre-shooting in a better way. It's a great function, but currently it is very inconvenient and hard to use. You should be able to toggle this on/off easily while shooting (without the need of looking into the menu), with a single click of a button on camera. The images should also be written normally to the card, as standard RAW files.
Did you see Charl's shortcut?
@@PangolinWildlife yes I did, Charl's tip is very helpful, however I wish I could switch between shooting modes without going into menu at all.
Looks like Canon still has some catching up to do. Look forward to shooting with you in Oct with my Olympus and OM Systems cameras!
Catching up indeed. Looking forward to seeing you in October!
Pre-Capture is also available with Sony A9 mk3 with 120 fps full RAW
Thanks for sharing that.
The Canon R7 has the feature. I used it capture Kingfisher photos only yesterday!
Kingfisher Mode!!!
Hi - nice vid, thanks for making it! Pre-shooting is a great setting, but I didn't realise it was new. For example Fujifilm have had it for years (sorry don't know how many). Cheers.
Glad it was helpful!
Hopefully in the future they will write all the RAWs to the card so you don't have to extract them in camera or with DPP. The OM-1 does this now as well as lets you select how many pre/post shots you want and at various frame rates. Maybe in the R1??
Maybe!!!
The single raw burst is way easier to work with using dpp to selects. Way faster than having thousands of individual photos to go through
Having used both Olympus and Panasonics preburst function and now canon I can say that canon has a long way to go on this. Yes it is a feature that works but managing the images after the fact the way canon has implemented this is a nightmare. I bought a used R7 and a 100-400mm to try out this feature Mostly due to the bigger sensor and resolution.
And was a bit underwhelmed The R7 focus even on static subjects seemed to just randomly loose focus for no apperent reason even when the body or eye boxes were on the birds. That was a bit frustrating. May be something I have set wrong but I don’t have that issue with my oly or pany in the same situations.
Charl,
This is a very informative video. Is this possible with the Nikon Z8 mirrorless camera ? if so please do a similar video demonstrating these functions on the Nikon Z8 camera. Thank you.
I'm really missing pre-shooting in R3 and in my R5. I was hoping that, after it was implemented in Canon's lower-end cameras, maybe they will add this with a firmware update for R5, but well... it's Canon, so of course it didn't happen ☹️
Alas no...
The most important thing is to switch off IS on your lens in this particular case that is waiting for a perched bird to fly.
Interesting point. thanks.
Charl, will you or someone from Pangolin explain this on the Nikon Z8 or Z9 system? Please do...
Just need to get our hands on one to show you.....anyone from Nikon watching???
@@PangolinWildlife
Hi Charl, I have a Z8 which I would gladly let you play with. All I have to do is get to Africa and join a Pangolin tour!
pamela
Ok, but how do you transfer the images to Mac?
as -eos-R owner I can only shoot 4k vid clips and later in Post extract 4k JPG ?? with the VLC Player soft
Which bird photography kit do you recomend for beginers bellow 2000 bucks?
Canon Pre-capture is almost ok, really needs a few more options ie time etc, the software using DPP is a pain and selecting in camera also poor. Buffering is a nightmare.
Good points.
Tks for the info. Will try 😊
Welcome 😊
Cool! Thanks!
Yes just got the A9 III - it's a beast. Pre-capture, 120fps RAW with full autofocus, burst mode, composite RAW. Nice thing is they are just normal RAW files, none of this funny extract business required by the Canon.
It does seem a little cumbersome!
I had to speed up the play speed!
I haven't watched yet but will when I get home, But from what I see Olympus still has better implementation than Canon one push of a button and your in pro capture, My R7 that I had wasn't like that you had to go into the menu unless I did something wrong, Now Nikon forget about them stupid 11mpix and jpeg only I've never laughed so hard in my life.
Check the shortcut at the end of the video!
@@PangolinWildlife yes I did and it's good like that, I have an R3 and I don't think we'll be seeing a firmware update to add it which is to bad, I also have the Z8 and am waiting for the rumored firmware update to add pre capture raw and if not I'm going all Canon.