Atheistic zazen showed me the "oneness" of all things within a year of my county jail spiritual retreat 😅 i was fortunate to know better than to chase a re-creation of the experience 🤯 5 years into atheist asana with a side of zazen and chill, i met Her🔻🙏 Nilasaraswati Maa. Took me a couple years to decipher who She was specifically. What i can say from experience and with certainty is that the endgame is the same whether you follow a diety or turn inward. Jai Maa!🔻❤️🙏 Also, cool shirt 🤩
Nice video. I've always seen a parallel between Bassui's "Who hears?" and Ramana's "Who Am I?" It seems that if one wants to study koans that's the only one you really need. Regarding surrender: Ramana said the best the way to show the guru devotion is to follow his instructions. Since he repeatedly comes back to the practice of self inquiry that seems like a pretty safe thing to surrender to.
I've also found that ramona maharshi is very zen like in his teachings. His main teachings was silence. He negates all the parts of his body and all the parts of his brain The thoughts the whole bit and then says the awareness that remains that I am.
Fun fact: I don't watch your videos usually anymore but this one caught my attention. And you kind of talk about pretty much what I wrote about in a comment in one of your videos (ruclips.net/video/30_U5o10JUA/видео.html) about 2 years ago. So maybe I was wrong and soto-zen isn't completely dead yet?! Anyway, here's my comment: "I'm always amazed how soto zen teachers nowadays basically just read over the "Learn to take the backward step that turns the light and shines it within. Mind and Body will naturally drop off and your original face will manifest yourself" part. Like it's not even there. But this actually points to a very long tradition (eko hensho) that goes back to bodhidharma ("show me your mind") and is what connects Zen to other traditions like Dzogchen (pointing out instructions). I think it's the very essence of Zen and can not understand how it's missed all the time. I mean it's there in Fukanzazengi and also in other parts of shobogenzo so it's obviously quite an important point no? It's the part that did lead Dogen to realize "body and mind dropped off"!"
Once I went to a public talk from a zen teacher. She came in and sat down on the dais, and she sat. The audience started looking around at each other, and finally she told us: "I don't give talks. I answer questions. If you don't ask any questions, I can sit here all night." Then the questions began.
I've done something like that before. But usually I tell the audience that if they don't ask questions about Zen, I'll just start speaking about Godzilla trivia. Then they start asking about Zen!
Yeah, i believe that story about Bodhidharma included the story of the 2nd patriarch cutting his own arm off.. (hopefully metaphorically haha) I think trust is essential, whether trust in the guru or the revealed truth. To me Nissargadatta is the classic example, once he figured out that his guru had no reason to bullshit him, he trusted him implicitly and completely. Advaita's relationship to the guru is probably summed up in Ramana's comment that God, Guru and Self are one.. God brings you to the Guru and the Guru brings you to the Self (so to speak)
Great stuff Brad! What does one do if one trusts the teacher - but doesn’t intuitively believe in the methods they stress? For example, I intuitively and experientially feel that Shikantaza is “home”, while my teacher clearly prefers koan practice. Or is that difference in approach me actually saying I don’t trust him?
Maybe you can talk directly to your teacher about the matter. Maybe you can modify the practice. Personally, I'm not really into koan practice the way it's usually done. But, then again, there are many ways to work with koans.
@@HardcoreZen yep, usually people announce what area they might be talking about and when it's going live. Then you just swipe right from the home screen on Instagram and scroll over to live at the bottom of the screen. People will log in and start asking questions.
My favorite teachers, Buddha, Jesus, Dogen zenji, Sri Ramana, Ram Dass, Jordan peterson, and my newest teacher Brad Warner. Thank you for your content Brad, it is much appreciated 🙏.
@@osip7315 interesting perception of the man. I just see JP as a psychologist, a man with flaws and errors like the rest of us human beings. Trying to help individuals find purpose and meaning in life from the wisdom of the great people of our past. Like Carl Jung, Fredrick Neichez, The Bible and Buddha. So il leave you with a few quotes by JP. Are aim should be the person who continually realizes there flaws and overcomes them, meaning manifest itself in the area of optimal challenge, be the thing that mediates between chaos and order
I feel like I read somewhere that when you achieve “the state” or what have you, the teacher stays the teacher and the student is still a student. Something like that? Also, possible book title “Who Wants To Know?”
Not to mention that Advaita and Zen are worlds apart even if they seem similar on the surface. (Former Advaita practitioner and into Ch’an for the last 24 years)
Is it late to comment? According to Sri Ramana you do not have to submit to guru. The question then arises: "Who submits?" Through questioning atman dissolves (resolves) into the nondual awareness (whatever that means).
Brad Warner made a video about Ramana Maharshi. I've never clicked so fast
Atheistic zazen showed me the "oneness" of all things within a year of my county jail spiritual retreat 😅 i was fortunate to know better than to chase a re-creation of the experience 🤯
5 years into atheist asana with a side of zazen and chill, i met Her🔻🙏 Nilasaraswati Maa. Took me a couple years to decipher who She was specifically. What i can say from experience and with certainty is that the endgame is the same whether you follow a diety or turn inward. Jai Maa!🔻❤️🙏
Also, cool shirt 🤩
Nice video. I've always seen a parallel between Bassui's "Who hears?" and Ramana's "Who Am I?" It seems that if one wants to study koans that's the only one you really need. Regarding surrender: Ramana said the best the way to show the guru devotion is to follow his instructions. Since he repeatedly comes back to the practice of self inquiry that seems like a pretty safe thing to surrender to.
I've been wairing for this video for ages
I've also found that ramona maharshi is very zen like in his teachings. His main teachings was silence. He negates all the parts of his body and all the parts of his brain The thoughts the whole bit and then says the awareness that remains that I am.
Fun fact: I don't watch your videos usually anymore but this one caught my attention. And you kind of talk about pretty much what I wrote about in a comment in one of your videos (ruclips.net/video/30_U5o10JUA/видео.html) about 2 years ago. So maybe I was wrong and soto-zen isn't completely dead yet?! Anyway, here's my comment:
"I'm always amazed how soto zen teachers nowadays basically just read over the "Learn to take the backward step that turns the light and shines it within. Mind and Body will naturally drop off and your original face will manifest yourself" part. Like it's not even there. But this actually points to a very long tradition (eko hensho) that goes back to bodhidharma ("show me your mind") and is what connects Zen to other traditions like Dzogchen (pointing out instructions). I think it's the very essence of Zen and can not understand how it's missed all the time. I mean it's there in Fukanzazengi and also in other parts of shobogenzo so it's obviously quite an important point no? It's the part that did lead Dogen to realize "body and mind dropped off"!"
Sometimes "Self" I see as True Self in zen
The universal manifestation and mystery
The story is about Bodhidharma and the second patriarch Huike
Thank you! I thought it was Bodhidharma!
Once I went to a public talk from a zen teacher. She came in and sat down on the dais, and she sat. The audience started looking around at each other, and finally she told us: "I don't give talks. I answer questions. If you don't ask any questions, I can sit here all night."
Then the questions began.
I've done something like that before. But usually I tell the audience that if they don't ask questions about Zen, I'll just start speaking about Godzilla trivia. Then they start asking about Zen!
@@HardcoreZen I'm kinda of partial to Godzilla trivia, I could have gone either way.
Yeah, i believe that story about Bodhidharma included the story of the 2nd patriarch cutting his own arm off.. (hopefully metaphorically haha)
I think trust is essential, whether trust in the guru or the revealed truth. To me Nissargadatta is the classic example, once he figured out that his guru had no reason to bullshit him, he trusted him implicitly and completely. Advaita's relationship to the guru is probably summed up in Ramana's comment that God, Guru and Self are one.. God brings you to the Guru and the Guru brings you to the Self (so to speak)
Great shirt! The talk was good too ;)
The video about RM became a lecture on trust. Thanks.
Great stuff Brad! What does one do if one trusts the teacher - but doesn’t intuitively believe in the methods they stress? For example, I intuitively and experientially feel that Shikantaza is “home”, while my teacher clearly prefers koan practice. Or is that difference in approach me actually saying I don’t trust him?
Maybe you can talk directly to your teacher about the matter. Maybe you can modify the practice. Personally, I'm not really into koan practice the way it's usually done. But, then again, there are many ways to work with koans.
I read it, I loved it.
That's a pretty awesome shirt.
Excellent! Have you considered a live Q and A on Instagram?
You can do that?
@@HardcoreZen yep, usually people announce what area they might be talking about and when it's going live. Then you just swipe right from the home screen on Instagram and scroll over to live at the bottom of the screen. People will log in and start asking questions.
My favorite teachers, Buddha, Jesus, Dogen zenji, Sri Ramana, Ram Dass, Jordan peterson, and my newest teacher Brad Warner. Thank you for your content Brad, it is much appreciated 🙏.
@sean watch Jordan Petersons psychological interpretation of Genesis here on RUclips. Or his maps of meaning lectures.
@Sean he's the newest jesus, crucified by benzodiazepines and the "woke" mob,, so "today"
@@osip7315 interesting perception of the man. I just see JP as a psychologist, a man with flaws and errors like the rest of us human beings. Trying to help individuals find purpose and meaning in life from the wisdom of the great people of our past. Like Carl Jung, Fredrick Neichez, The Bible and Buddha. So il leave you with a few quotes by JP. Are aim should be the person who continually realizes there flaws and overcomes them, meaning manifest itself in the area of optimal challenge, be the thing that mediates between chaos and order
@@je.1525 you are "selling"
@@osip7315 Perception is subjective
his cessatios experiences sounds like massive endogenous 5MeO-DMT releases.
eventually you have to trust yourself more than your teacher
I feel like I read somewhere that when you achieve “the state” or what have you, the teacher stays the teacher and the student is still a student. Something like that? Also, possible book title “Who Wants To Know?”
Not to mention that Advaita and Zen are worlds apart even if they seem similar on the surface. (Former Advaita practitioner and into Ch’an for the last 24 years)
In what ways are they worlds apart?
I think they are different in surface but same in essence
Having drunk deep from both cups… they are different in kind.
End is same
Is it late to comment? According to Sri Ramana you do not have to submit to guru. The question then arises: "Who submits?" Through questioning atman dissolves (resolves) into the nondual awareness (whatever that means).
Interesting point!
"provisionally"
Who am I
Glad to hear about your wedding. I always function better when I'm getting laid regularly.
the fools
resting on the reasoning of others
come to grief
dumb title..ramana wasnt in japanese zen.