Hey Z, from a guy that makes the purifi drivers, i will tell you that when you say around 29:45 that you are pushing the drivers :) you are not :) you would flip out seeing how much they can actually move, and still without audible distortion. also note that the drivers have a X-Lin +/- 9,8mm and a mechanical X-max of +/- 14,5mm with a linear SD / SD neutral @ZReviews
As I understand it you can (and should) definitely combine room correction with a master tuning. Two different things: The RC takes place in the Platinum Hub whereas the master tuning resides in the speaker itself. Of course you want to choose your master tuning first, then do the room correction flailing about.
I read from a reviewer that these aren’t as good as what you could do with separate components at this price but with an orchard audio 2k. 2k for towers it may or may not from what this engineering could be
YESSSS, I am thinking the exact same as well. I could actually get the Rialtos for 1k cheaper right now, so it might be a no brainer to get those... But im not sure.
@@Daytwoo Yes of course you could make an amazing setup with this money with separate equipment but the point is to have a simple "all in one" setup with great sound and features. Also one big thing is that there is no speaker/amp matching which can be tough sometimes.
You are a gentle monster of thoughts and delivery. I love the way you move through this. Talking at the tip of your mind and never leaving the viewer uninterested. Been interested in these Danish offerings for way too long. In my country of Canada these would flesh out at 6000.00 A box of wood. Purify woofers. Class D amplification. Tweeter you feel is inspired. Platin Hub. Is it worth it? Eversolo A6. 1500.00 Canadian. TS A75. 2500.00 Criton 1tdx built 3650.00 All in Canadian dollars 7150.00 CSS uses the HI Vi D 6.8 Purify with the Buchardt. Are the Buchardts the choice ?
I run Buchardt A500's in one of my systems via XLR from a tube pre and high quality DAC and IMO they are better that way than with the Platin hub/wireless setup.
Recently experienced an interesting digital combo where I ran a Chord Hugo TT2 into a Devialet 250 expert pro, which has its own quality Dac that the Chord has to go through. Have you ever tried piggybacking different quality dacs?
There's one company doing a similar thing with a option of diamond tweeters and that driver... then they do a 3 way with the mid range driver made of diamond as a option also
There are surround sound Wisa transmitters. Axiim Link $279, Soundsend $179, Platin and Primare.. Too long waiting for the sub and still no centre although it is possible to mix and match other WSA speakers with possibly some exceptions ~ B&O Theatre apparently does not recognise Buchardt to use as surrounds. Almando WiSA transmitters offers streaming including internet radio.
Powered speakers are usually at the lower end of cost to full active speakers. Buchardt sells direct so you gain 30% over a dealer price. Compare to speakers costing 4200 GBR. Also many powered speakers will not scale up to full surround as good as they may be for stereo. Others have poor latency for watching movies. B&O Beolab 17 3,000 GBR Buchardt A10 3,192 GBR Sonus Faber Duetto 3,490 GBR B&O Beolab 19 black 3,500 GBR Genelec 8331 3,998 GBR B&W Formation Duo 3,999 GBR Dynaudio Focus 10 4,399 GBR DALI RUBICON 2C 4,549 GBR B&O Beosound Balance Natural oak 4,798 GBR Genelec 8341 4,799 GBR Kef LS60 4,999 GBR Buchardt A700 5,040 GBR B&O Beosound 2 5,298 GBR B&O Beolab 8 gold/light oak 5,398 GBR Devialet Phantom 108dB I 5,600 GBR B&O Beoplay A9 gold 5th gen 6,398 GBR Linn Series 3 6,450 GBR Dynaudio Focus 30 6,499 GBR DALI RUBICON 6C 6,749 GBR
DSP active speakers are usually better than powered speakers. The is a price difference and as Buchardt have no dealers you gain 30% at least think $5564 speakers to compare. The Nines are $1500
@@geraldmcmullon2465 However, Klipsch has higher volume, so they will be able to get a much better price on the components and the manufacturing. Both speakers seem to have the same kind of compromises. (Compression of bass output at the highest output levels.)
I like this plug and play with out any dac and amps makor cleaner way can i ask were do i get the hub from? OMG WIRELESS PLEASE MAKE A VIDEO WHEN THEY COME OUT IM GOING TO WAIT FOR WIRELESS.
@@UmarAbid usb on the speaker is for masterlink and service updates. The hub has usb to a computer as you suggested. Other WiSA transmitter will also connect to the computer like the Axiim Link for 7.1.
speakers are designed to be listened to in rooms with reflections that sum up the experience. without a closed space thats representative of most people's usecase the judgement only says about the direct on axis sound. I hope this makes sense to the viewers of this channel. That being said buchardt provides its measurements on their website and they usually have pretty good preference scores on spinorama.
@@LordOishi Indirect sound that you hear from the speakers that is the sum of reflections. Also outside of this there are other effects specific to rooms that need to be corrected to make it more neutral. go to the link in the video description and expand on room correction for those specific corrections. If you take RB42 and place them in different rooms you will hear very bright treble and mid bass boosted and this can't be corrected because they have poor mismatching indirect sound i.e poor DI.
There is zero necessity for a center channel speaker to be horizontal. It is 100% better actually if all 3 front speakers are the exact same model that the left & right speaker are. It doesn't matter if they are towers or bookshelf speakers. You will get a far more accurate & balanced response if their placement is symmetrical, with the left & right being equal distance to the center. All 3 speakers should be on the same plain & same level & with no toe in of the left & right speakers really required. The exceptions will come from the requirements of the room, if it's not symmetrical.
But this is only possible in dedicated theater room behind a akustic transparent screen. A vertical bookshelf looks horrible in 99% of living room environments.
@jdx4174 I don't think so. I see no reason to hide beautiful speakers behind a screen. All I have done in the past is elevate my TV on a wall mount to be above the top of the speakers enough that they can't impede the screen any. Plus with the LCR speakers out from the wall, everything just sounds better. My current set up is just 2.1 however & I'm not hearing any need for a central channel at all, even sitting directly in front of the left or right speaker, which is where my 2 chairs are placed, the center image sounds like it's come right out of the center of my TV screen. It's amazing really.
Can you review the Edifier s2000mkiii!?!? I hear they sound better than the Edifier s3000pro, people that have owned both say the clarity is noticeable 🤯
Hey Z, from a guy that makes the purifi drivers, i will tell you that when you say around 29:45 that you are pushing the drivers :) you are not :) you would flip out seeing how much they can actually move, and still without audible distortion.
also note that the drivers have a X-Lin +/- 9,8mm and a mechanical X-max of +/- 14,5mm with a linear SD / SD neutral
@ZReviews
As I understand it you can (and should) definitely combine room correction with a master tuning. Two different things: The RC takes place in the Platinum Hub whereas the master tuning resides in the speaker itself. Of course you want to choose your master tuning first, then do the room correction flailing about.
Also, listen to Revolver Stereo Mix '22 to hear Beatles as it was supposed to sound.
As usual well done.
Great review! How are these for low level listening? I live in a condominium and mostly listen at lower volumes. I do enjoy occasional loud listening.
I do love those drivers!... Will be getting the MUM-6's and experiencing at least then in due course
These were always on my list for my new office . BUT , considering the A10 vs Cabasse Rialto , opinion ?? 😊
This is exactly me too! Also the barefoot footprint 01 as well but anyone with help deciding would be greatly appreciated!!!!
I read from a reviewer that these aren’t as good as what you could do with separate components at this price but with an orchard audio 2k. 2k for towers it may or may not from what this engineering could be
YESSSS, I am thinking the exact same as well. I could actually get the Rialtos for 1k cheaper right now, so it might be a no brainer to get those... But im not sure.
@@Daytwoo Yes of course you could make an amazing setup with this money with separate equipment but the point is to have a simple "all in one" setup with great sound and features. Also one big thing is that there is no speaker/amp matching which can be tough sometimes.
Crazy bass for a sealed speaker
You are a gentle monster of thoughts and delivery. I love the way you move through this. Talking at the tip of your mind and never leaving the viewer uninterested. Been interested in these Danish offerings for way too long. In my country of Canada these would flesh out at 6000.00
A box of wood. Purify woofers. Class D amplification. Tweeter you feel is inspired.
Platin Hub. Is it worth it?
Eversolo A6. 1500.00 Canadian.
TS A75. 2500.00
Criton 1tdx built 3650.00
All in Canadian dollars 7150.00
CSS uses the HI Vi D 6.8
Purify with the Buchardt.
Are the Buchardts the choice ?
Heard the S400 and it was not bad, but no wood. These however seem to be in a completely different league. Thx for your rants 😅
I run Buchardt A500's in one of my systems via XLR from a tube pre and high quality DAC and IMO they are better that way than with the Platin hub/wireless setup.
Recently experienced an interesting digital combo where I ran a Chord Hugo TT2 into a Devialet 250 expert pro, which has its own quality Dac that the Chord has to go through. Have you ever tried piggybacking different quality dacs?
I just bought the KEF LS60 for $2200 steal on eBay, how would you say these compare to the LS60s because I’m currently blown away by them
When will u test the new Buchardt E50 ?
There's one company doing a similar thing with a option of diamond tweeters and that driver... then they do a 3 way with the mid range driver made of diamond as a option also
Does the company have a name?
There are surround sound Wisa transmitters. Axiim Link $279, Soundsend $179, Platin and Primare.. Too long waiting for the sub and still no centre although it is possible to mix and match other WSA speakers with possibly some exceptions ~ B&O Theatre apparently does not recognise Buchardt to use as surrounds. Almando WiSA transmitters offers streaming including internet radio.
Hey brother.....can you please add the link to the power cord? Thanks Zeos!!
Sorry I will add. amzn.to/3VXsNXU
Thanks!! 🤘
Where can I listen to Predator 2 FLAC? And, what happened to Buchardt's 500 series? I only see 400 MKII listed on their site.
i need a link to that power cable it looks sick
Ask and Recieve amzn.to/3VXsNXU
Maybe you are thinking of the Vanatoos. Their signal stays digital when it hits the amp. Interesting if these are the same deal.
I want that speaker as a passive. That Purify driver is quite special.
March Audio Sointuva maybe, or AsciLab A6B Passive
That much better than cabasse Rialto?
Buchardt is coming up with their best speaker to date soon, the E50 with the Purify driver. Cost the same as these but they are passive..
hey Zeos please could you review an old pair of 50`s KEF Concerto would be interested in your opinnion
Nice to hear some Total Recall, if only briefly.
Buchardt a10 or kef ls60:)?
I really get what your saying but i still like separates
We are at an understanding.
Love your power cable, what is its brand?
Absolutely wonderful products.
and .. NO .. The Woofers aren't broken .. for those who just don't understand the Purifi driver technology.
Solid wood cabinets - Sonus Faber have some that are all solid walnut ..
Also .. a brand from the USA .. Black Ocean Audio
is there any other speakers commercially available with the Purifi driver, that arent 4k?
Z,
Can you please do a comparison of active speakers like:
• Buchardt A10
• Acoustic Energy AE1
• Dali Rubicon 2C
Powered speakers are usually at the lower end of cost to full active speakers. Buchardt sells direct so you gain 30% over a dealer price. Compare to speakers costing 4200 GBR. Also many powered speakers will not scale up to full surround as good as they may be for stereo. Others have poor latency for watching movies.
B&O Beolab 17 3,000 GBR
Buchardt A10 3,192 GBR
Sonus Faber Duetto 3,490 GBR
B&O Beolab 19 black 3,500 GBR
Genelec 8331 3,998 GBR
B&W Formation Duo 3,999 GBR
Dynaudio Focus 10 4,399 GBR
DALI RUBICON 2C 4,549 GBR
B&O Beosound Balance Natural oak 4,798 GBR
Genelec 8341 4,799 GBR
Kef LS60 4,999 GBR
Buchardt A700 5,040 GBR
B&O Beosound 2 5,298 GBR
B&O Beolab 8 gold/light oak 5,398 GBR
Devialet Phantom 108dB I 5,600 GBR
B&O Beoplay A9 gold 5th gen 6,398 GBR
Linn Series 3 6,450 GBR
Dynaudio Focus 30 6,499 GBR
DALI RUBICON 6C 6,749 GBR
Why Z don't review speakers from Dynaudio, Bowers & Wilkins and other good and well known companies?
Elysium is where Roman heroes were thought to go when they died. I think that excerpt was played when Russell Crowe was dying?
You always make people consider Buchardt.
Try Zingali 06M bookshelf speakers , then it will redifined meaning of sound for you for bookshelfs;)
If you use these speakers for 10 years that means they're only $400 per year, I think I'll buy a pair
I bought the A500s during Covid, only regrets was not going with the A700s because I realized I like their look more.
How do these compare with Klipsch The Nines?
DSP active speakers are usually better than powered speakers. The is a price difference and as Buchardt have no dealers you gain 30% at least think $5564 speakers to compare. The Nines are $1500
@@geraldmcmullon2465 However, Klipsch has higher volume, so they will be able to get a much better price on the components and the manufacturing. Both speakers seem to have the same kind of compromises. (Compression of bass output at the highest output levels.)
I like this plug and play with out any dac and amps makor cleaner way can i ask were do i get the hub from? OMG WIRELESS PLEASE MAKE A VIDEO WHEN THEY COME OUT IM GOING TO WAIT FOR WIRELESS.
Buchardt sells the WISA hub too, the only thing you have to plug in are power cables and optionally a wired audio source on the hub.
@@bryancasler thank you. the usb port can i use this to connect to my pc via hub?
@@UmarAbid usb on the speaker is for masterlink and service updates. The hub has usb to a computer as you suggested. Other WiSA transmitter will also connect to the computer like the Axiim Link for 7.1.
I'm a jazz musician, and even I will join the No Krall gang 👍
yes we would watch reviews on another service.
666 views at this moment ... Coincidence ? Think again !
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speakers are designed to be listened to in rooms with reflections that sum up the experience. without a closed space thats representative of most people's usecase the judgement only says about the direct on axis sound. I hope this makes sense to the viewers of this channel. That being said buchardt provides its measurements on their website and they usually have pretty good preference scores on spinorama.
From a non-expert, what does "room with reflections" mean?
@@LordOishi Indirect sound that you hear from the speakers that is the sum of reflections. Also outside of this there are other effects specific to rooms that need to be corrected to make it more neutral. go to the link in the video description and expand on room correction for those specific corrections. If you take RB42 and place them in different rooms you will hear very bright treble and mid bass boosted and this can't be corrected because they have poor mismatching indirect sound i.e poor DI.
Completely agree but the rb42s were reviewed when he was in a normal room @@teachonlywhatiseasy
There is zero necessity for a center channel speaker to be horizontal. It is 100% better actually if all 3 front speakers are the exact same model that the left & right speaker are. It doesn't matter if they are towers or bookshelf speakers. You will get a far more accurate & balanced response if their placement is symmetrical, with the left & right being equal distance to the center. All 3 speakers should be on the same plain & same level & with no toe in of the left & right speakers really required. The exceptions will come from the requirements of the room, if it's not symmetrical.
But this is only possible in dedicated theater room behind a akustic transparent screen.
A vertical bookshelf looks horrible in 99% of living room environments.
@jdx4174 I don't think so. I see no reason to hide beautiful speakers behind a screen. All I have done in the past is elevate my TV on a wall mount to be above the top of the speakers enough that they can't impede the screen any. Plus with the LCR speakers out from the wall, everything just sounds better. My current set up is just 2.1 however & I'm not hearing any need for a central channel at all, even sitting directly in front of the left or right speaker, which is where my 2 chairs are placed, the center image sounds like it's come right out of the center of my TV screen. It's amazing really.
Our Patreon money 😂, we only get offered the dont wants, dislikes and the outdated gear on yard sale 😂😂😂
You have to save money on pants with this hobby 😅
ugh hate the look of exposed screws tho, looks unpolished to me for a premium speaker
Buchardt A10 or Mon with orchard audi ?
I mean we talking the big Platimon? So $10k+ vs $4k. I think the Mon suit me more but cannot beat the A10's for easy audiophilia.
Can you review the Edifier s2000mkiii!?!? I hear they sound better than the Edifier s3000pro, people that have owned both say the clarity is noticeable 🤯
They make beautiful speakers why such a horrible looking remote.
15:40 homeopathy in a nutshell
Worst review ever.
insane probs for saying mads rigth...
TikTok brain again 🧡💖