You are the only one I found to say you need the dr3 not the dr3sp for the image solver to work then I have in the Gaia I put the dr3 in the Gaia dr3, then the dr3sp in the Gaia dr3/sp thank you so much
Super useful tutorial. I now use this plate solving technique (transferring the plate solve parameters from the original image) all the time. Particularly useful for Mosaics
Very useful tutorial I was having a lot of trouble solving one particular image. By adjusting some of the parameters you suggested it finally worked. And I was able to run SPCC successfully. Thank you 🙏🏻
So the Image Solver is basically a plate solver that can't plate solve unless you tell it what the plate solution is beforehand? My god! One does wonder sometimes if Pixinsight, despite its power, is in some way DELIBERATELY obfuscated in its UX by the developers as some kind of gatekeeping procedure. They are many, many, MANY opportunities for unbelievably easy improvements to almost every aspect of its user interface and experience, but the team singularly and vehemently ignores decades of best-practice while simultaneously deriding any member of the community who brings up its shortcomings. You have to wonder why?
Another issue I found, and I saw it in your video as well, after you specify the object to solve it sometimes checks the 'S' option for the Southern hemisphere. That one had me chasing ghosts for awhile.
Well, you only need to add it to the color combined pic as only then you do SPCC. So after color combination just throw the FITS data of any file which has proper data into the color combined one, and then you can plate solve it.
The SPCC tool it’s ridiculously complicated to get setup, I’ve spent hours on it and and getting a number of different problems… not sure it’s even worth bothering with, after updating PI the plate solve script is now missing so I gave up at that point… Hard to believe PI isn’t freeware as poorly written as the software is…
I feel your pain, but it is not all bad with PI. The two huge issues PI has is that UX/UI design is just a disaster and that it seems rather unstable in managing scrips and processes - like you now losing the the Image solver script. For the later usually a reinstallation of the software solves the issue. But beside that PI is still by far the most powerful processing software, and from my point if view it is still worth it going through all the pain to harvest the capabilities the software has.....
@@viewintospace Yeah it’s hard to stop using it, as difficult as it is it’s still the best tool we have… Ended up having to delete it and fresh install to get everything working again…
I think I made it very clear the the removal of plate solving out of (S)PCC was a suboptimal move from my perspective and that their statement about "bad design" is nonsensical, as they left other processes combined and PIs whole script capability bases on combining processes. That said, the Image Solver script offers the same (and some more) plate solving capabilities as the ones which were included in. the PCC process. So could you give more details in which way you can not plate solve anymore (e.g error messages...) and I might be able to help.....
Well, if you mean regarding my FitsHeader advice, it is not about the stacked image, but about the individual subs which should be in .fits. Alternatively just either search in Image Solver according to object or star that is closest to the center of your pic.
You are the only one I found to say you need the dr3 not the dr3sp for the image solver to work then I have in the Gaia I put the dr3 in the Gaia dr3, then the dr3sp in the Gaia dr3/sp thank you so much
After much frustration, Polygons worked for me. You are the only one that I have seen mention this, thank you😃😃
Super useful tutorial. I now use this plate solving technique (transferring the plate solve parameters from the original image) all the time. Particularly useful for Mosaics
Very useful tutorial
I was having a lot of trouble solving one particular image.
By adjusting some of the parameters you suggested it finally worked. And I was able to run SPCC successfully.
Thank you 🙏🏻
Thanks! Finally got around to trying SPCC and as you know, I needed to know this. Excellent to-the-point video.
Glad it was helpful and thanks a lot 🙏🏻
Nice! I gotta try this. I have a Cygnus Wall shot with the 585. And i cant even get the gaia DB to solve it. This looks promising!
Thank you for this presentation. You solved my issues since SPCC was introduced.
Glad it helped!
something about nbrgb combination I would appreciat. Danke !
My deep thanks to you my smart friend. Very well explained.
Great work. Kudos to you and Johnathon.👏👏👏🌌
So the Image Solver is basically a plate solver that can't plate solve unless you tell it what the plate solution is beforehand? My god! One does wonder sometimes if Pixinsight, despite its power, is in some way DELIBERATELY obfuscated in its UX by the developers as some kind of gatekeeping procedure. They are many, many, MANY opportunities for unbelievably easy improvements to almost every aspect of its user interface and experience, but the team singularly and vehemently ignores decades of best-practice while simultaneously deriding any member of the community who brings up its shortcomings. You have to wonder why?
You absolutely and totally nailed it!!! 100% my option and 100% agree. It is totally mind-blowing.
Another issue I found, and I saw it in your video as well, after you specify the object to solve it sometimes checks the 'S' option for the Southern hemisphere. That one had me chasing ghosts for awhile.
Great video, Sascha!
Superb tip and explanation ! Thanks
Thank you!
How would the fits header work for a monochrome file, say OIII, if the others properly plate solved?
Well, you only need to add it to the color combined pic as only then you do SPCC. So after color combination just throw the FITS data of any file which has proper data into the color combined one, and then you can plate solve it.
The "time" entered in the script - should it be local time or UTC?
Local time
The SPCC tool it’s ridiculously complicated to get setup, I’ve spent hours on it and and getting a number of different problems… not sure it’s even worth bothering with, after updating PI the plate solve script is now missing so I gave up at that point… Hard to believe PI isn’t freeware as poorly written as the software is…
I feel your pain, but it is not all bad with PI. The two huge issues PI has is that UX/UI design is just a disaster and that it seems rather unstable in managing scrips and processes - like you now losing the the Image solver script. For the later usually a reinstallation of the software solves the issue. But beside that PI is still by far the most powerful processing software, and from my point if view it is still worth it going through all the pain to harvest the capabilities the software has.....
@@viewintospace Yeah it’s hard to stop using it, as difficult as it is it’s still the best tool we have… Ended up having to delete it and fresh install to get everything working again…
it broke my plate solving now it doesnt work for me this was a bad move by the developers
I think I made it very clear the the removal of plate solving out of (S)PCC was a suboptimal move from my perspective and that their statement about "bad design" is nonsensical, as they left other processes combined and PIs whole script capability bases on combining processes.
That said, the Image Solver script offers the same (and some more) plate solving capabilities as the ones which were included in. the PCC process. So could you give more details in which way you can not plate solve anymore (e.g error messages...) and I might be able to help.....
@@viewintospace error messages that were never there before
i am not on that compouter currently
why? why? why? what purpose does it serve to remove it from PCC and SPCC, this is just one more extra step we have to do! WTF?
I can not more than agree with you :-)
I find no such information. I don't get it actually
If you would be more specific what your problem is I might be able to help...
what if i stacked using deepskystacker which saves as a TIF
Well, if you mean regarding my FitsHeader advice, it is not about the stacked image, but about the individual subs which should be in .fits. Alternatively just either search in Image Solver according to object or star that is closest to the center of your pic.
alright thanks@@viewintospace