Please note: If your image does not have an astrometric solution, SPCC won't work. You can go to Scripts/Image Analysis/ImageSolver and search for your object and then click ok to apply an astrometric solution to your image.
@@Fat-totoro-cat I'm wondering the same thing. I used NINA instead of my ASIAIR Pro, and Pixinsight keeps saying "No atrometric solution" when I attempt to run this.
When using DBE, prior to SPCC, make sure you choose "Replace Target Image" to preserve astrometric information. If you don't, the processed image does not preserve this information.
Thanks! My brain is atrophying from disuse but my pictures are getting better and better! Can’t wait for you to explain the next PixInsight mystery to me.
Hi Shawn thanks for short and sweet video. You need to add that the ImageSolver script needs to be run first otherwise SPCC or PCC will now fail. Additionally it would be nice to know how to set up the filter choices for an OSC
Thanks! See my pinned comment. Your image needs to have an astrometric solution before SPCC will work. It may have this if this was checked off in WBPP. But if you have cropped the image at all, then ImageSolver in Pix needs to run on the image to re-apply the astrometric solution.
Thanks watching Capt! Note... Your image needs to have an astrometric solution before SPCC will work. It may have it if this was checked off in WBPP. But if you have cropped the image at all, then ImageSolver in Pix needs to run on the image to re-apply the astrometric solution.
Thanks for the video Shawn. Now I'm going to watch your "Pixinsight SPCC Fails" video. Another user asked and I will echo, what about filter selection for those of us that use OSC cameras?
As a point of information, storing the Gaia data in the PixInsight folder in C:\Program Files causes it to be deleted if you upgrade PixInsight. You may want to store the Gaia data elsewhere!
One thing I should add... Your image needs to have an astrometric solution before SPCC will work. It may have it if this was checked off in WBPP. But if you have cropped the image at all, then ImageSolver in Pix needs to run on the image to re-apply the astrometric solution. See my note at the top of comments about this. Cheers.
Thank you Shawn. ⛄️🎄. I know others have asked, but what 'filter' setting should I consider when using OSC with 'no filter' , such as the L-eXtreme, please?
It's a good question. For OSC on its own you can select ideal curve and then use a uv/ir filter choice from the drop down. The problem I am seeing is not all the filters are shown. I'm looking into this more. Hopefully I will find an answer.
This is cool but I miss the old photometric calibration where one loads the focal length, pixel size, time, and then search for an object such as M31. The new SPCC doesn't work for me. Has the old PCC been retired? Love your videos. You're one of the few guys that doesn't compress 10 minutes of info into a 20 minute video.
Thanks for this video Shawn. In the filters section, what should I do when using a "One Shot Color" camera (in my case ZWO ASI294MC Pro)? Images were taken without filters. Should I choose the "Sony color sensor R or R-UVIRcut or R-UVcut ?
SPCC didn't work for me until I learned on one of the PI forums that it needs to be the very first step in your workflow after combining channels into a color image -- no BlurX or NoiseX. My problem was that I was receiving an error message saying that data was insufficient -- 0 points were seen while at least 5 were required. SPCC couldn't recognize stars in the image.
@josephhoener5764 yupper! That is correct. Unfortunately there are youtube channels now that are showing people how to do it wrong. I would mention names but I won't to be respectful.
The Lpro is in the filter management but does not show in the drop down menus. I am looking into this further. But for OSC on its own you can select ideal curve and then use a uv/ir filter choice from the drop down.
Thanks James. One thing to note... Your image needs to have an astrometric solution before SPCC will work. It may have it if this was checked off in WBPP. But if you have cropped the image at all, then ImageSolver in Pix needs to run on the image to re-apply the astrometric solution.
Hi Shawn great video but when installing in pi i go to process/Gaia then the spanner but where it says data release i only have a Gaia EDR3 option and not the Gaia Dr3/sp option you have,any ideas please
Hello, Thanks for the great content. What if I didn't use a filter? what choice should I make for red, green and blue considering that there are no "no filter" option available?
If you are using OSC, there is most likely a uv/ir cut involved. So in SPCC you would want to select Ideal QE Curve and then the Sony uv/ir filter in the RGB for OSC. Cheers.
Can you do this if younuse a OSC? Im asking cause cause one of the inputs is the filters for each color channel. What would i do there, just put the same filter for all 3 color channels?
My version of PI has the SPCC in the processes, do I still need to install the Gaia files from the PI website? Using the process did fail for me even with the successful ImageSolve.
I’m having a difficult time getting SPCC to work on a narrowband image taken with a OSC camera (ZWO ASI2600MC PRO) using an Optolong l-xtreme filter. Would you be able to give me the appropriate settings or better yet, do a tutorial?
@@VisibledarkAstro I figured it out - ImageSolver is needed between these two steps so that the program knows the celestial coordinates :) Thanks, Shawn! Your videos are a real time saver!
I do not have SpectroPhotoColorCalibration, only have PhotoColorCalibration. How do I get this script? I tried to update my PixInsight but "There is no update in your current installation.".
What do I put in for filters in SPCC if I am using a OSC camera? I generally use a light pollution filter or a UV/IT cut filter. It just noticed that a few others asked the same question.
This only seems to work on linear images. I tried it on a stretched image and I got an error message: Error: Insufficient data only 0 samples are available: at least 5 are required. Just thought I'd mention this, it gave me fits when I tried it on a stretched image. Monty
Hey Shawn, love your videos and always really good info. As a request for teaching people and being clear, you often say "Check OFF background ....." when in fact you want people to select that particular option even though you say "Off". To avoid confusion could you just say "Check" or "Turn on by checking". Thank you
The file type provided in the download is XPSD, but what the program wants is XSPD. The former is of no use to the program and isn't even seen by the program. What's the solution?
Hi Shawn. This tool looks promising and powerful, but I am not able to run it properly. I did the solving and that is fine, but then when extracting PSF samples it says "no stars found" :( Any clues?
Using all the same settings as you have, except I use the narrowband with the default settings for my L-Ultimate Filter, I get an error that says image has no valid astrometric solution. Any idea what would cause this? I tried it with an M33 photo and Thor's Helmet. Same error
@@VisibledarkAstro Thanks I found that being the root cause and got the image solver to work, and then when I ran the SPCC it started working but then gave me an error * Extracting PSF signal samples *** Error: No stars found (channel 0) The image is loaded with stars in it, so not sure how it's not finding any.
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Please note: If your image does not have an astrometric solution, SPCC won't work. You can go to Scripts/Image Analysis/ImageSolver and search for your object and then click ok to apply an astrometric solution to your image.
Thanks for the information it will definitely help.
Shouldnt NINA add an astrometric solution to the FITS file if it's solved by ASTAP?
@@Fat-totoro-cat I'm wondering the same thing. I used NINA instead of my ASIAIR Pro, and Pixinsight keeps saying "No atrometric solution" when I attempt to run this.
When using DBE, prior to SPCC, make sure you choose "Replace Target Image" to preserve astrometric information. If you don't, the processed image does not preserve this information.
"Sorry, but this is not supported in current PixInsight versions." when I use ImageSolver.
Thanks! My brain is atrophying from disuse but my pictures are getting better and better! Can’t wait for you to explain the next PixInsight mystery to me.
Thank you for the super thanks!
Oh my heck!!! You have saved me hours of frustration and searching. I thank you so much for putting this all together. You are my man!
This video helped me a lot. I am new to Pixinsight, and was not sure how to get SPCC up and running. You saved me a lot of time! Clear Skies!
Thank you! At last I got SPCC to work, so I'm a happy little bunny 🙂
Hi Shawn thanks for short and sweet video. You need to add that the ImageSolver script needs to be run first otherwise SPCC or PCC will now fail. Additionally it would be nice to know how to set up the filter choices for an OSC
Thanks Don. Yes I'll pin a note in the comments here about that. The image does need an astrometric solution for SPCC to work. Cheers.
Another great video!
Thanks! See my pinned comment. Your image needs to have an astrometric solution before SPCC will work. It may have this if this was checked off in WBPP. But if you have cropped the image at all, then ImageSolver in Pix needs to run on the image to re-apply the astrometric solution.
Short, sharp, sweet!!
👍👏👏
Thank you!
Extremely helpful as usual. Thanks very much! 👍👍👍
Thanks Shawn!
Thanks watching Capt! Note... Your image needs to have an astrometric solution before SPCC will work. It may have it if this was checked off in WBPP. But if you have cropped the image at all, then ImageSolver in Pix needs to run on the image to re-apply the astrometric solution.
Another great how to Shawn san. Thank you very much every time!!
Thanks for the video Shawn. Now I'm going to watch your "Pixinsight SPCC Fails" video. Another user asked and I will echo, what about filter selection for those of us that use OSC cameras?
For OSC data I use the Sony uv/ir cut filter options. Majority of cmos cams we use are Sony sensors.
As a point of information, storing the Gaia data in the PixInsight folder in C:\Program Files causes it to be deleted if you upgrade PixInsight. You may want to store the Gaia data elsewhere!
Quick and easy guide. Thanks :)
One thing I should add... Your image needs to have an astrometric solution before SPCC will work. It may have it if this was checked off in WBPP. But if you have cropped the image at all, then ImageSolver in Pix needs to run on the image to re-apply the astrometric solution. See my note at the top of comments about this. Cheers.
Thank you for the tutorial. Question: when do you apply SPCC; linear or non-linear phase of the workflow?
Should be applied to linear image. Cheers.
Thank you Shawn. ⛄️🎄. I know others have asked, but what 'filter' setting should I consider when using OSC with 'no filter' , such as the L-eXtreme, please?
It's a good question. For OSC on its own you can select ideal curve and then use a uv/ir filter choice from the drop down. The problem I am seeing is not all the filters are shown. I'm looking into this more. Hopefully I will find an answer.
This is cool but I miss the old photometric calibration where one loads the focal length, pixel size, time, and then search for an object such as M31. The new SPCC doesn't work for me. Has the old PCC been retired? Love your videos. You're one of the few guys that doesn't compress 10 minutes of info into a 20 minute video.
Thanks for this video Shawn. In the filters section, what should I do when using a "One Shot Color" camera (in my case ZWO ASI294MC Pro)? Images were taken without filters. Should I choose the "Sony color sensor R or R-UVIRcut or R-UVcut ?
I have the same camera and I chose the Sony sensor R. It seemed to have worked well for mine.
Great video Shawn. Thank You.
You are very welcome
As always, many thanks, Shawn. I'm a little late to the party, but nonetheless . . . mui appreciado, which is "New Mexico Speak" for gracias!😁
Great, Thanks! SO, I assume that we no longer need to do background neutralization (used to be my second step after cropping)?
No need for it. In fact if you run DBE also on an image there is no need to run background neutralization.
@@VisibledarkAstro Interesting. Thanks! BTW, I use your DBE method.
SPCC didn't work for me until I learned on one of the PI forums that it needs to be the very first step in your workflow after combining channels into a color image -- no BlurX or NoiseX. My problem was that I was receiving an error message saying that data was insufficient -- 0 points were seen while at least 5 were required. SPCC couldn't recognize stars in the image.
@josephhoener5764 yupper! That is correct. Unfortunately there are youtube channels now that are showing people how to do it wrong. I would mention names but I won't to be respectful.
Thanks Shawn. What settings should be used for the filters if using a OSC camera and something like an Optolong L-Pro or IDAS NBZ?
The Lpro is in the filter management but does not show in the drop down menus. I am looking into this further. But for OSC on its own you can select ideal curve and then use a uv/ir filter choice from the drop down.
Hi Shawn
Thanks for the video, indeed, all your videos.
Any comment on filter selection for a Ha modified Canon 6D ?
Cheerd
Hi Lynn. So modding makes the dslr transmit like a cooled camera with uv/ir. Use ideal curve and the Canon osc filter. The 5d should be fine.
Hi Shawn,
Thank you for the great content.
As usual you’ve done a splendid job of showing how it works.
Thanks James. One thing to note... Your image needs to have an astrometric solution before SPCC will work. It may have it if this was checked off in WBPP. But if you have cropped the image at all, then ImageSolver in Pix needs to run on the image to re-apply the astrometric solution.
Hi Shawn great video but when installing in pi i go to process/Gaia then the spanner but where it says data release i only have a Gaia EDR3 option and not the Gaia Dr3/sp option you have,any ideas please
Did you download the Gaia dr3 small set from the pixinsight site?
@@VisibledarkAstro yes i did
Hello, Thanks for the great content.
What if I didn't use a filter? what choice should I make for red, green and blue considering that there are no "no filter" option available?
If you are using OSC, there is most likely a uv/ir cut involved. So in SPCC you would want to select Ideal QE Curve and then the Sony uv/ir filter in the RGB for OSC. Cheers.
@@VisibledarkAstro Many thanks to you!
Is this superior to PCC? Both use known star/galaxy catalogues and take into account filters. I’d assume their performance is very similar.
Can you do this if younuse a OSC? Im asking cause cause one of the inputs is the filters for each color channel. What would i do there, just put the same filter for all 3 color channels?
Hi Shawn. Should I do Background Neutralization before SPCC ?
No. Not needed. SPCC does it.
Shawn, what might you suggest for an OSC with the l-eNhance filter? Would the narrowband clickbox be appropriate?
Hi Steve - yes use the narrowband checkbox. Here's a video demonstrating this... ruclips.net/video/mUd4DBvpClY/видео.html
My version of PI has the SPCC in the processes, do I still need to install the Gaia files from the PI website? Using the process did fail for me even with the successful ImageSolve.
thanks man
Viele Dank!!
I’m having a difficult time getting SPCC to work on a narrowband image taken with a OSC camera (ZWO ASI2600MC PRO) using an Optolong l-xtreme filter. Would you be able to give me the appropriate settings or better yet, do a tutorial?
Hi Shawn! I did everything as you said in this video, but got *** Error: The image has no valid astrometric solution What can be the problem?
Yep! Check my other video about SPCC fails. The answer is there! :)
@@VisibledarkAstro I figured it out - ImageSolver is needed between these two steps so that the program knows the celestial coordinates :) Thanks, Shawn! Your videos are a real time saver!
Any thoughts why I get -->Error: Insufficient data: only 1 sample(s) are available; at least 5 are required.
I do not have SpectroPhotoColorCalibration, only have PhotoColorCalibration. How do I get this script? I tried to update my PixInsight but "There is no update in your current installation.".
What do I put in for filters in SPCC if I am using a OSC camera? I generally use a light pollution filter or a UV/IT cut filter. It just noticed that a few others asked the same question.
You would want to select Ideal QE Curve and then the Sony uv/ir filter in the RGB for OSC. Hope this helps!
@@VisibledarkAstro thanks !
This only seems to work on linear images. I tried it on a stretched image and I got an error message: Error: Insufficient data only 0 samples are available: at least 5 are required.
Just thought I'd mention this, it gave me fits when I tried it on a stretched image.
Monty
Oh ya for sure it would. It needs to be done at a linear state.
Hey Shawn, love your videos and always really good info. As a request for teaching people and being clear, you often say "Check OFF background ....." when in fact you want people to select that particular option even though you say "Off". To avoid confusion could you just say "Check" or "Turn on by checking". Thank you
That's a good point. Thanks. Now if I can catch myself before saying it. Lol.
hOW to download gaia dr3 date?
The file type provided in the download is XPSD, but what the program wants is XSPD. The former is of no use to the program and isn't even seen by the program. What's the solution?
Hi Shawn. This tool looks promising and powerful, but I am not able to run it properly. I did the solving and that is fine, but then when extracting PSF samples it says "no stars found" :( Any clues?
Hi Juan - I had this happen when I accidently tried applying SPCC to a stretched image. It needs to be applied to a linear (not stretched) image.
Wouldn’t it be simpler to call it “Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious”? 😊
Hilarious 😂
And only 11 Gb of files to download 😬 🤭 Helpful video though, as always 👍
Using all the same settings as you have, except I use the narrowband with the default settings for my L-Ultimate Filter, I get an error that says image has no valid astrometric solution. Any idea what would cause this? I tried it with an M33 photo and Thor's Helmet. Same error
Your image doesn't have an astrometric solution then. You would need to run ImageSolver on it. See my pinned comment at top. Cheers.
@@VisibledarkAstro Thanks I found that being the root cause and got the image solver to work, and then when I ran the SPCC it started working but then gave me an error
* Extracting PSF signal samples
*** Error: No stars found (channel 0)
The image is loaded with stars in it, so not sure how it's not finding any.