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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
- France's Antoine Dupont has been labelled everything from the Greatest of All Time to overrated.
There's not much he hasn't already achieved in his relatively short career, but will he achieve a Rugby World Cup or win an olympic gold medal to truly solidify his label as one of the GOATs.
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As a South African im not surprised the people that said he is overrated comes from south africa and new zealand
The people in these countries are very biased about their rugby teams.Not to mention close minded .
Du point is the best scrum half there is .End of story
So true. The blind bias is insane.
SA and NZ cannot get over the fact that France is a contender. Dupont is a team player.
PS - And he is mighty strong!
@@JohnDhar They hold onto the WC record because either one of them buys it every 4 years.
We all know how these work...
One player that is really underrated is Romain Ntamack. The only game I recall France losing while both where playing was against Wales in the QF in 2019, Scotland in 2020 when Ntamack got off injured, and Ireland in 2023 where Ireland where world beating at home while were France probably saving stuff for the world cup. Ntamack isn't Dupont in his skills, but his vision and communication abilities give Dupont the ability to be 100% himself whilst Ntamack can do the boring stuff. I really do think they would've at least won the QF had he been fit
O’Gara in an interview with Jim Hamilton, said he studied DuPont since his team competed directly with Toulouse. And he said he is worth 10 points a game. Which is pretty nuts.
Dupont is not over-rated, it's just that EVERYONE ELSE is over-rated
NO WC NO GOAT
@@itistrue101 So dumb.
@@itistrue101 cheating SA ..l..
@@Chris689200 List all the GOATs from other sports that haven't won the top prize...
yep that's what I thought dumb dumb
@@itistrue101Cristiano Ronaldo, Ryann Giggs, Jonah Lomu, George Best, Roy Keane….
You talk about his head injury during the world cup: doctors said he could go back but would play with a tighter vision and more vulnerability because of the operation he went through. He put his career at risks, he could have played the hand on the brake and yet he was still impressive against the boks! No one can say he is overrated...
Salty boks can, rarely you see people winning in rugby and berating the losing team. The toxicity in the sport in the SH is amazing.
I'm interested to see how France will play next year if they have Dupont, Ntamack and Le Garrec all available. They would have the option of bringing Le Garrec off the bench and shifting Dupont and Ntamack out one spot wider which, due to the unique French scrum half role, no other team can do. It would make a 6-2 split bench more flexible too.
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Don't forget Ntamack, together they're lethal
Over rated?
Have they ever watched him play?
That guy is worth the ticket price by himself!
It's nuts. I was at the Bordeaux vs Toulouse Top 14 game last sunday and he totally blew my mind. Seeing him play on TV is nothing short of extraordinary but watching him live is even more incredible. You just can't let him have a single meter or he will punch through or facilitate his team doing so. Simply unreal.
Dupont's already one of the greatest ever. Is he THE greatest ever? I tend to say yes, too
The win rate statistics is really biased since France often have to field B teams because of restrictive agreements with Top 14, Dupont being part of their A team they mechanicly have a better win rate when he's palying. I agree with all te rest !
well...
Getting a WC tittle depend A LOT on having the referee doing their job right in important matches. If they don't and in not doing so, negate your strong points, well, you would need to be so overwhelmingly stronger than the opponent that it's impossible. And lets face it, at the very top level, no national team is actually overwhelmingly superior. They each have their own niches they try to capitalize on... and if a referee don't do his job and say, let some players unlawfully slow the game vs a team used to play fast or... doesn't apply the rules to their full extend on the conversion kick (just a few examples), the result become way more dependent to the referee decisions than the players/team performances...
and yeah... that make it 3 times that France was chafed in a crucial game...
The greats of any game can be determined by their impact upon a match. Dupont has that effect - even if he does nothing to make a highlights reel, he will increase France's chances of winning the game. Not only is he highly skilled and a phenomenal no9, but by simply being on the field he increases France's chance of victory by 22.5%! He lives up to the hype that surrounds him.
The increase % of game won is a bit biaised because when he doesn't play for France, most of the best french player doesn't play like for summer test.
@@polo-cx3ze very true, but without looking at the statistics, he alone is a huge contributor to the french team success due to his sniping runs, his vision, ability to create plays out of nothing and his leadership.
He’s prolly gonna be GOAT
Thank you for this coold headed video , Uggy. Reg. Antoine Dupont, 2 things come to my mind: 1° despite all the hype, he still seems to stay really authentic, down to earth AND humble. 2° Coming back to Jim Hamilton's interview of O'Gara, I remember very well that O'Gara did say that he had studies Dupont from evey possible angle so as to be able to reduce or at last block his influence on the pitch (in the La Rochelle vs Stade Toulousain games). And that, so far, he had not be able to do so! That in itself does say that Dupont plays in a league of his own.
True, I don't remeber to have seen any more decisive and influencial scrum-half in rugby.... well, I am too young to have seen Gareth Edwards, but since him, nobody for sure.
Hes the type of playet that does things that look eady but no one else can replicate
Cheslin has already won a bronze medal at the Olympics playing 7s + 2 world cups. Same with Kwagga Smith if I'm not mistaken. These are the underrated goats of rugby lol
I never thought that i 'd see rugby played at that level in every areas ( tactical , technical , strategical and physical ) by the same player. He's the GOAT for me and so enjoyable to watch.
I got to see him a few weeks ago in LA at the 7’s event.
The RWC argument is so stupid, it means you can only be the GOAT if you're born in 4 or 5 countries. Is your goat status in doubt just because you were born in Italy or Scotland? Of course not! Rugby is a team sport, and there are a lot of factor at play to win the RWC
Facts bro no greats in the boring Boks
Nice vid bro, keep it up!
Thanks legend!!!
Convinced! Nice insights.
I'm very new to rugby. The Los Angeles 7s tournament was my first time actually watching rugby. When France played even I, a complete noob to the sport, saw Dupont playing and I thought he was very noticeably better than most of the other players.
Love watching your videos, thank you
even duponts physique is "so rugby". he looks like a ball of muscles lol
Dupont is already a legend. Only problem with him, is that he is so flashy that other incredible players around him don’t get the accolades they deserve.
You didn't show his defensive work rate
Best player of all time i say it already now today
He’s awesome. Simple.
its good to see him finally getting recognition by the southern hemisphere
Well, simply put, you don't often find individuals that happen to redefine the role of a player in a sport. It's pretty obvious there is no other scrum half in the world that have such a vast skillset. Usually, 9 isn't the shiniest of the positions. But somehow this guy is always in the spotlight.
exactly!
Goat
GOAT
He is the goat...no discussion about that
He’s the best rugby player on the planet. If you disagree, you don’t know ball.
That's the way to shut down criticism... you're a politician or a priest?
we have dupont and le garrec...
He will be the GOAT, I just hope he wins some more 6N and a world cup so the stats people stop using it as an argument against
No WC no GOAT
For me he is the GOAT
No WC... NO Goat. Carter/McCaw Still the Goats
@@itistrue101 you mean McCaw the cheater? Lol
Dupont is from another level, he is the Goat.
@@gandigooglegandigoogle7202 You mean Dupont the cry baby. "ref stole our WC" hahahahahaha what a sook. GOATS win the rest cry.
@@gandigooglegandigoogle7202 Dupont the crybaby. "Ref stole our WC"
GOATS don't cry... they win.
A video on Women 6 Nations?
Merci ❤
Came back to watch a 10th time bro
Been watching for over 30 years, and watched the highlights of Gareth Edwards in his prime. For me he’s the greatest I’ve ever seen. Carry, pass, create, kick, defend, even ruck! Best I’ve ever seen
Prime Carter better,
@itistrue101 the only guy in the conversation. Obviously scored more points but was he as consistently dominant during open play?
@@canadiancontent352 yep... Second test against the British Lions unparalleled. Du Pont is good/ maybe even great but he's no Dan Carter, not yet.
@@itistrue101 that’s the only game I can remember him absolutely dominating like that. Don’t get me wrong I think he was amazing but I didn’t see him regularly do what Dupont does. I mean Dupont smashed Itoje in a tackle and has ran circles around the all blacks in games. His performance against SA in the QF was amazing considering his injury
@@canadiancontent352 vs France 2015 Q final, Vs Aust 2015 Final, (had a great test against Boks in Semi too. Numerous great Bledisloe and Rugby Championship games against the Boks and Aussies. Countelss great performances for Crusaders when Suoer Rugby was the best comp around. Dominated Six Nations sides on EOYT's
he's achieved far more than Du Pont and had many many games as the stand out performer. Dupont hasn't played many games against the Blacks - I think you're referring to the EYOT game where French Forwards were walking over the top of the Blacks.
Carter most points in a black jersey despite missing many games due to injury - being an AB as long as he was is testament to his class.
Dupont a little over rated for me, but he is very good.
Won't take hom. The ego breaks a team.
Great player ...But...a scrumhalf can do jack without quality ball from his pack...Can anyone even name them 😊
Either he's overrated or every time I've seen him play against Aussies nz or sa he had bad day somehow 😂
Hubris tripped him once already...
if he wins a World Cup he will be right up there,,
Murray better
lol@@RugbyLover86
@@RugbyLover86worst take of all time
20 years old Dupont > prime Murray
Conor Murray better g he was team of the decade
danny care better
@@subbie5498 overrated
Great respect for Murray. Absolute class...but time moves forward....and yes, I'm a lifelong Munster supporter.
Who is Conor Murray? Only Irish people may have heard about him.
@@subbie5498is this a demonstration of the famous English sense of humour ? Very good one anyway
I'm from Argentina, so I'm absolutely neutral on this, it's a genuine question
Why do people see Dupont as being a better player than Faf De Klerk?
He doesn't do anything better than Faf and when I see both teams play Faf is way more influential and way better on defense
Faf played for Sales for years and was never close to achieve anything remarkable with that team. Nobody was talking about him. Why ? Because he played with a shit team and doesn't have the influence to change anything. Springboks have by far the best pack in the world, so playing as a scrumhalf for them is much much easier than with other teams. The Springboks actually perform very well without faf... Comparing him to Dupont makes zero sense
Have you had a chance to follow the TOP 14? Look I've been watching rugby for 50 years now and I've never ever seen it played like this, and not only in exceptional games or circumstances but day in and day out every time he plays for his club ST. And yes Faf is a very good scrum half but Dupond is not only (and by far) the best scrum half but the best rugby player in the world, a category that didn't really exist before, as it is difficult to compare apple and pears , until he came along. Neutral or no neutral do your research and you ll see there's now an overwhelming consensus (outside of France) on this issue.
General concensus isn't necesarily truth, especially with social media, marketing and hype trains can influence people's perspective
South Africa fares well without faf but the fact that his team is good and they have a really good 2nd Scrum Half doesn't take credit out of Faf as an individual player, he jukes people as hard as Dupont if not harder, and if you see them play you can compare them just as if you compared any other two players
The main difference is Dupont is better with kicks and Faf is better on defense, and kicks are an attacking response so Dupont gets more shock value I guess
But Faf always seemed to me like the better player at directing the game and being on top of the game as a whole while Dupont will just get the ball and run side to side on a whim looking for a hole on the defense like a ball hogger
avec et tel avis tu es un mauvais Argentin
Duponts overrated.
How ? What is he lacking exactly? No player has influenced a game more than him other than Jonah and that was pure power. DuPont does it with class and skill
Nate you need to explain why