This is not going to be one of those annoying "BUT BLENDER!!SO MUCH BETTER!!" comments, but i thought about going the blender route for modeling. It is a very impressive piece of software, but in the end, I am back with max. Not just because its the main software at work, it is just still by far my favourite modeling toolset and with these new updates and the new pbr viewport, it is the best all around package for me. The new baking tools UI and inclusion of MikkT is also super nice.
I am confused btw choosing the best option for me. I've just one question pls guide me on this. What is better software to master for automotive and aviation design and that will be a better option for me in the near future? I want the best option which is most realistic. Is it Maya or 3ds max or even blender or c4d ?
Quick tip: go to the environment dialogue first and when you click the map slot you will be taken to the new HDR maps location automatically. Saves a bit of time.
Just amazing video, i loved the way you teach and explain every detail... I wonder do you have a course from beggineing to advance for 3ds max, vray? thanks
Your comment made my day for sure :) thank you for the support and I’m very glad you liked my tutorials. At the moment I don’t have such course, but I started recording one which is from beginner to advanced for 3ds max and it’s half way done. I did not plan initially to include external renders in the course but I’ll make separate videos on the channel to cover vray.
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Hi, your work is amazing sir. I've just one question pls guide me on this. What is better software to master for automotive and aviation design and that will be a better option for me in the near future? I want the best option which is most realistic.
Could you provide more info on the error message that you are getting, please. OSL maps should work with Arnold as if they were un-available they would not be in the material menu whe you have Arnold as selected render.
It just took Epic Games about 1 year to upgrade their shading system from older shading model to PBR after Disney released new PBR shading model back in 2012. And it took Autodesk almost 4 years from Max 2018 to 2021 to get PBR preview right......
Well it took epic a bit more then that, as from what I know they were working on UE4 and specially on the rendering and PBR for few years before even going in alpha. Also for Epic it’s a lot more beneficial and cryptical for getting PBR materials because they are after all a game engine and not a modeling/ asset creation software like max. Also we need to have in mind that Max is a software used not only for games but for visualizations and cinema and those guys were using mostly different renders from what 3ds was offering. Don’t get me wrong I’m not saying that it took a bit too long for Autodesk to implement PBR workflow, but as game industry became huge the last few years and finally game artist are not the minority, game friendly features became the focus.
Yes, you can render everything you see it the viewport. Now the default render will be set to Arnold, which can be used with CPU or GPU rendering and the result is the same as what you see in the viewport. It work very fast and easy. I’ll make a video about all the setting and how you can set both types of rendering.
I’m sure you can create realistic looking space environment almost everywhere. Usually for making such things you need some cool designs, nice color palette and to play a bit more with you materials and lights so it looks and feels good. I’ve worked on a small space station project and there the goal was to make it look as realistic as possible, but also have some artistically good looking frames. I ended making the material and models detailed as they would be in real life, but faked some lights as in space usually you either don’t have light source or if it’s around our planet have 1 which is the sun.
@@UpsideDownTutorials ok how are developlers make planet landing and these realstie stars in games lkke star citizen and elite damgerous ?? can max do this ??or software especialist in this usage ????
Actually they aren’t Arnold specific. The PBR materials are a wrapper for the Physical Material. The Physical Material can be used in Arnold, Vray, Corona, & a bunch other renderers in addition to the viewport. :)
Scanline should (forgot to mention it and ART). You can get pretty close to PBR using physical material & Scanline. It’s supported with both ART & Scanline.
I'm not sure that you've checked 2015 mate, but the features I'm talking about are mostly available because of Arnold. So real time hdri lights in the viewport, PBR materials and support for substance are for sure not things from Max 2014 not 2015. Arnold was first implemented as render that comes in the package of Max inside the 2018 version. As for the AO it's something that was not present in 2020, and now it comes as a new setting that can be accessed from the viewport render menu.
@@UpsideDownTutorials Well mate, Max 2015 is my main Max version so I know what I'm talking about. For sure. Arnold has nothing with Max viewport rendering, that's Nitrous Direct 3D thing (by default). Viewport AO was present before Max 2015. All this things were present in all versions in between, its not like they skipped from 2015 to 2021.
No one is saying about skipping but about improving and adding new features. Arnold was not a feature that was by default in 3ds max, yes? So it’s a few thing that was added and the same for pbr materials. There was AO in older version of max as it was part of different renders, but not it’s something available for Arnold as well.
@@UpsideDownTutorials Sorry man, you obviously don't want to except some facts. You can't objectively talk about improvements if you have nothing to compare. And you can't compare if you completely miss those features in previous versions. Again, nothing to do with Arnold. P.S. I don't want to say that there was no improvements and simplifications.
It is almost impossible to get an Students version to learn max if you are not an actual student in high school or Uni. I asked max customer service and you cant be student to teach yourself.
Thank you! Yes, my idea is to make short tutorials about features or tricks and then when it comes to fully creating an environment, to go more in depth.
Well features take time to be developed and tested. It’s true that Autodesk came a bit late with some, but at least I can see that what they’ve implemented is well tough and works pretty well.
I agree same was with me, I’ve been using 2016 ever since it cane out. I’m using 2021 for over a month now and I’m impressed to tell you the truth. I didn’t experience any crashes. Only that is a bit annoying for me is the speed that the material editor opens. Because of the PBR the first time you open it it’s kinda slow and I had the same experience sometimes while working on the scene.
3ds Max shall forever be known to me as "the software with billions of mesh modifiers" Also, modelling in Maya is still a headache for me, like whats the difference between polyBevel1 and polyBevel2?
Well UV mappings is in general a tricky thing. More and more softwares are creating ai based unwrapping tools as it’s one of the time consuming processes of being a 3d artist. I’m interested in seeing what substance will come up with there auto uvs...
Don’t get me wrong, I think blender is great, but not production great. There are still many issues when you are getting blender assets inside game engines. I’m not talking here about more common once like Unreal or Unity, but studio custom once. It’s also hard and time consuming for companies to put the effort of changing the pipeline as there have been so many tools already created for max or maya. I’ve used blender just a bit before and I was thinking to make a series on my channel about starting as a new user and giving fresh eye look on it.
@@UpsideDownTutorials well you are right about companies wont change their whole pipeline. too many efforts and artists to just change their daily routine for a different software. but i disagree with that Blender models are not ideal for game engines.i mean on what points you are saying this?
Nah I’m not talking about models having issues, I’m talking about assets production pipeline and exporting and importing everything to game engine. A lot of AAA studios have tools that optimize or help PMs follow what’s happening and blender is still lacking those. Mostly because studios did not developed those tools for it.
@@UpsideDownTutorials Blender is progressing really really fast man. The sculpting bench of theirs is upgraded so much. the recent Cloth brush made zbrush and marvelous bites their nails. All big AAA companies Funding Blender now. Ubisoft funded millions to blender and said they would implement Animation in their game using blender in future.they already announced 4 years of Content to released few weeks ago. if not now. Blender would play huge role in the future.its already playing. so many people out their jumped to Blender from maya/max
I agree with you, Blender is progressing a lot and also there is a huge community around it, I’m sure in future we will see projects developed there from major companies. Ubisoft as well as other AAA devs are investing in it and there are already many artist that work on it. (I’m talking from my experience and what I see at work). Still I don’t think it will come in the next few years and also on main titles.
Upside Down There's more to it. Not all Substances will work in the Substance node. At some point they added features that appear in Substances that are not supported in that node. In fact, they can cause a crash. Substance2 will load these, and not crash.
3Ds Max is an investment, if you are working as freelancer that is not doing art for a very specific type of clients and you are working on games, visualizations and movies you need professional software that aligns with the industry standards. Max has a lot of tools both build in and 3rd part (like vray) which many companies are using. So in my case I’m not paying only for new feature as this is my everyday tool. As well upgrades or subscription plans make it much better.
@@UpsideDownTutorials if you really have a well-paid and permanent job, then I agree, but in other cases I don’t really understand how such a powerful tool like 3ds max can be used, say, at least 80% and how it can recoup the time spent. Naturally I won’t ask a stupid question about how much you earn, but at least someone pays and I think it's better for karma than using a hacked product
Using hacked software is not a good thing as people that work on it are after all putting there ward work there. This is why companies like Autodesk have programs for learning where you could sign in and use the software for free with non-commercials purpose. As I said in the previous message it really is an investment, if you are on having the client or working projects (mostly AAA) you need tools that are aligned with the industry, but if you are doing assets or selling models on your own or just have found a studio that uses some other free softwares and you don’t find the value either to invest your time or money in software like 3Ds Max, it’s great. I totally support that as well, I know many awesome artists that use Max or Maya only in there professional work and use Blender in non-profit personal projects. After all once you get the basics and knowledge behind creating 3D art, what tools you are using is a matter of personal preference or professional needs.
@@UpsideDownTutorials For sure, I agree. I am personally using some dated tools like 3dsMax 2010 only for a room viewport concept. And learning Blender 2.8 now, for a final 3d model setup with combination of tools like a Substance, but I have to buy Maya for karma, because I do not use any of tools inside the internet. Maya have a very good animation and rigging tools for a triple-A games... And I never used 3dsMax even on 40%, but I have like a 10 years of experience in a 3D modelling inside 3dsMax and other tools like Maya, Blender and ZBrush, and I am living in a poor country where is almost impossible to get free 2000$ for a 40% 3dsMax usage...
Maya is an awesome software, it was actually the one I started learning at 1st, before found job in game dev and started using Max. I totally get you about the coat of license, I’m also originally from Bulgaria, which is for sure not known as the riches place :) but I was lucky to use Max license from work and later student version at home.
Ye I agree, I sometimes wait for months to be able to get an update. But I have to say that so far 2021 has been running very smoothly and I’m happy with the new stuff.
A support guy for MAX highly recommended to NOT switch to MAX 2021 now since there are and will be bugs found in the next few months. I am too using 2016 and never upgraded. I do feel that I will do soon to 2021.
I usually wait until service pack 2 comes for the version, but yes 2016 was such a nice one that I didn’t feel the need of update so far. Now I think that 2021 is also right on the spot as it features some very much needed things but also is improved from 2020 as a lot of the stuff we saw there were not very polished.
As the PM for 3ds Max, I would be very interested in which support person said that. ;) Each release is a release. You can look at 2021 essentially as 2020.4. It’s just a carry over. The new features have been in development & tested pretty thoroughly. Gone are the days of waiting for service packs. So much has been stabilized the last 3 years there’s no need to wait for another Update. ❤️
Thank you for the inside look on the topic, I can say that it’s obvious that the approach has changed not only in terms of software stability but also in terms of how features are being developed. I generally have the feeling that recent updates are not only getting much needed features but also implementing then in a easier to use and understand way, with much more simplistic interface.
3ds max should have had PBR materials and realtime viewports 5 years ago... I must admit that 2021 has a few nice upgrades.. It's just too late.. I started converting to blender long ago, and I have worked with 3ds max for the last 20 years now
This is not going to be one of those annoying "BUT BLENDER!!SO MUCH BETTER!!" comments, but i thought about going the blender route for modeling. It is a very impressive piece of software, but in the end, I am back with max. Not just because its the main software at work, it is just still by far my favourite modeling toolset and with these new updates and the new pbr viewport, it is the best all around package for me. The new baking tools UI and inclusion of MikkT is also super nice.
I am confused btw choosing the best option for me.
I've just one question pls guide me on this.
What is better software to master for automotive and aviation design and that will be a better option for me in the near future? I want the best option which is most realistic. Is it Maya or 3ds max or even blender or c4d ?
Thanks for the video. This is a great sum up!
Thank you for the support! I’m glad that the video was useful.
Quick tip: go to the environment dialogue first and when you click the map slot you will be taken to the new HDR maps location automatically. Saves a bit of time.
Great, thanks for the tip :)
Make 3ds Max Great Again
yes
The dev team makes me hopeful, unlike Maya’s unfortunately, which you need to learn for animation in the industry.
People underestimate the power of 3Ds Max a lot
Just amazing video, i loved the way you teach and explain every detail... I wonder do you have a course from beggineing to advance for 3ds max, vray? thanks
Your comment made my day for sure :) thank you for the support and I’m very glad you liked my tutorials. At the moment I don’t have such course, but I started recording one which is from beginner to advanced for 3ds max and it’s half way done. I did not plan initially to include external renders in the course but I’ll make separate videos on the channel to cover vray.
@@UpsideDownTutorials Happy with your reply :) Looking forward for more videos and a full course. Cheers from Brazil
Idk why you say you just switcht. Max is, was and will be the best ever
Great! Thanks for the video.
Thank you for the support!
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Hi, your work is amazing sir.
I've just one question pls guide me on this.
What is better software to master for automotive and aviation design and that will be a better option for me in the near future? I want the best option which is most realistic.
thanks for the video.Does the new viewport now finally also show Arnold Maps and Materials? Like after 4 or 5 Years?
Yes, you can now see everything pretty much as it will be in the render.
the OSL maps and materials do not really work with Arnold renderer. I keep getting error message about it not being rendered with Arnold. Thoughts?
Could you provide more info on the error message that you are getting, please. OSL maps should work with Arnold as if they were un-available they would not be in the material menu whe you have Arnold as selected render.
Very useful tips! I may consider switching to 2021
Thanks, it’s a significant update specially from 2016 that I was using.
@@UpsideDownTutorials Autodesk is back on track with updating Max and Maya, but Max is especially getting strong updates.
It just took Epic Games about 1 year to upgrade their shading system from older shading model to PBR after Disney released new PBR shading model back in 2012. And it took Autodesk almost 4 years from Max 2018 to 2021 to get PBR preview right......
Well it took epic a bit more then that, as from what I know they were working on UE4 and specially on the rendering and PBR for few years before even going in alpha. Also for Epic it’s a lot more beneficial and cryptical for getting PBR materials because they are after all a game engine and not a modeling/ asset creation software like max. Also we need to have in mind that Max is a software used not only for games but for visualizations and cinema and those guys were using mostly different renders from what 3ds was offering. Don’t get me wrong I’m not saying that it took a bit too long for Autodesk to implement PBR workflow, but as game industry became huge the last few years and finally game artist are not the minority, game friendly features became the focus.
any easy way to import the textures from substance #painter to 3ds max ????
great review! is it possible to output this result in the viewport as png sequences or something similar?
Yes, you can render everything you see it the viewport. Now the default render will be set to Arnold, which can be used with CPU or GPU rendering and the result is the same as what you see in the viewport. It work very fast and easy. I’ll make a video about all the setting and how you can set both types of rendering.
if you mean capture the viewport as it, then there are ways to take screenshots of the viewports/cameras each frame..save PNGs (or other types) etc.
OR you could directly pick "High Quality" from the viewport. ;)
hi can 3dsmax generally makena relastice stars and galaxies for games and planetry landing like a star citizen and elite dangerous?????
I’m sure you can create realistic looking space environment almost everywhere. Usually for making such things you need some cool designs, nice color palette and to play a bit more with you materials and lights so it looks and feels good. I’ve worked on a small space station project and there the goal was to make it look as realistic as possible, but also have some artistically good looking frames. I ended making the material and models detailed as they would be in real life, but faked some lights as in space usually you either don’t have light source or if it’s around our planet have 1 which is the sun.
@@UpsideDownTutorials ok how are developlers make planet landing and these realstie stars in games lkke star citizen and elite damgerous ?? can max do this ??or software especialist in this usage ????
Pbr materials works only with arnold right?
Yes, because the scanline render from before does not support PBR. Autodesk made it so when you start 2021 you have Arnold by default.
Actually they aren’t Arnold specific. The PBR materials are a wrapper for the Physical Material. The Physical Material can be used in Arnold, Vray, Corona, & a bunch other renderers in addition to the viewport. :)
art render the render engine which can work with pbr materials not canline
Scanline should (forgot to mention it and ART). You can get pretty close to PBR using physical material & Scanline. It’s supported with both ART & Scanline.
All of this was available in Max more than 5 years ago.
Not sure, but I think in Max 2014. In Max 2015 for sure.
And how is AO "new cool thing"?!
I'm not sure that you've checked 2015 mate, but the features I'm talking about are mostly available because of Arnold. So real time hdri lights in the viewport, PBR materials and support for substance are for sure not things from Max 2014 not 2015. Arnold was first implemented as render that comes in the package of Max inside the 2018 version. As for the AO it's something that was not present in 2020, and now it comes as a new setting that can be accessed from the viewport render menu.
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Well mate, Max 2015 is my main Max version so I know what I'm talking about. For sure.
Arnold has nothing with Max viewport rendering, that's Nitrous Direct 3D thing (by default).
Viewport AO was present before Max 2015.
All this things were present in all versions in between, its not like they skipped from 2015 to 2021.
No one is saying about skipping but about improving and adding new features. Arnold was not a feature that was by default in 3ds max, yes? So it’s a few thing that was added and the same for pbr materials. There was AO in older version of max as it was part of different renders, but not it’s something available for Arnold as well.
@@UpsideDownTutorials Sorry man, you obviously don't want to except some facts. You can't objectively talk about improvements if you have nothing to compare.
And you can't compare if you completely miss those features in previous versions. Again, nothing to do with Arnold.
P.S. I don't want to say that there was no improvements and simplifications.
Sorry, i meant accept, not except :)
Hi man, may i ask you help in small thing, i need help from someone who can open 2021 3ds file, and save it for me in 2020? Can you help me please
That substance shit is a great thing !!
It is almost impossible to get an Students version to learn max if you are not an actual student in high school or Uni. I asked max customer service and you cant be student to teach yourself.
buy indie version
@@aiuhejvwvud8c99rjej i dont want to buy it to learn if i dont have the job that will pay for it. So i have to go with blender
@@starscream2092 Yeah... you can't buy any add-ons from Blender, but...
@@aiuhejvwvud8c99rjej but you pay for addon once - not every month. I guess.
Very short and to the point. I like short videos with a lot of info.
Thank you! Yes, my idea is to make short tutorials about features or tricks and then when it comes to fully creating an environment, to go more in depth.
Is hard not to say "why did it take this long???" but I am thankful they did since this is my main driver.
Well features take time to be developed and tested. It’s true that Autodesk came a bit late with some, but at least I can see that what they’ve implemented is well tough and works pretty well.
fianlly i have a reason to update to 2021, using 2016 over years
I agree same was with me, I’ve been using 2016 ever since it cane out. I’m using 2021 for over a month now and I’m impressed to tell you the truth. I didn’t experience any crashes. Only that is a bit annoying for me is the speed that the material editor opens. Because of the PBR the first time you open it it’s kinda slow and I had the same experience sometimes while working on the scene.
I love the ivory material on your figure at the end. Is that from Substance?
It’s one from the Max default. It’s usually on the very 1st slot in the material editor, when you create a new scene.
3ds Max shall forever be known to me as "the software with billions of mesh modifiers"
Also, modelling in Maya is still a headache for me, like whats the difference between polyBevel1 and polyBevel2?
UV mapping in Maya is the hardest thing in my life and i hope 3ds max UV is easier
Well UV mappings is in general a tricky thing. More and more softwares are creating ai based unwrapping tools as it’s one of the time consuming processes of being a 3d artist. I’m interested in seeing what substance will come up with there auto uvs...
What about blender?
Don’t get me wrong, I think blender is great, but not production great. There are still many issues when you are getting blender assets inside game engines. I’m not talking here about more common once like Unreal or Unity, but studio custom once. It’s also hard and time consuming for companies to put the effort of changing the pipeline as there have been so many tools already created for max or maya. I’ve used blender just a bit before and I was thinking to make a series on my channel about starting as a new user and giving fresh eye look on it.
@@UpsideDownTutorials well you are right about companies wont change their whole pipeline. too many efforts and artists to just change their daily routine for a different software. but i disagree with that Blender models are not ideal for game engines.i mean on what points you are saying this?
Nah I’m not talking about models having issues, I’m talking about assets production pipeline and exporting and importing everything to game engine. A lot of AAA studios have tools that optimize or help PMs follow what’s happening and blender is still lacking those. Mostly because studios did not developed those tools for it.
@@UpsideDownTutorials Blender is progressing really really fast man. The sculpting bench of theirs is upgraded so much. the recent Cloth brush made zbrush and marvelous bites their nails. All big AAA companies Funding Blender now. Ubisoft funded millions to blender and said they would implement Animation in their game using blender in future.they already announced 4 years of Content to released few weeks ago. if not now. Blender would play huge role in the future.its already playing. so many people out their jumped to Blender from maya/max
I agree with you, Blender is progressing a lot and also there is a huge community around it, I’m sure in future we will see projects developed there from major companies. Ubisoft as well as other AAA devs are investing in it and there are already many artist that work on it. (I’m talking from my experience and what I see at work). Still I don’t think it will come in the next few years and also on main titles.
The substance node should be considered "old" now. From what i saw on their tutorial is to use substance 2 node from now on.
Yes, there is substance 2 note which works much faster now and is the updates version of the one called just substance.
Upside Down There's more to it. Not all Substances will work in the Substance node. At some point they added features that appear in Substances that are not supported in that node. In fact, they can cause a crash. Substance2 will load these, and not crash.
So you spent 2000$ to use HDRI's and material editor for Substance ?
3Ds Max is an investment, if you are working as freelancer that is not doing art for a very specific type of clients and you are working on games, visualizations and movies you need professional software that aligns with the industry standards. Max has a lot of tools both build in and 3rd part (like vray) which many companies are using. So in my case I’m not paying only for new feature as this is my everyday tool. As well upgrades or subscription plans make it much better.
@@UpsideDownTutorials if you really have a well-paid and permanent job, then I agree, but in other cases I don’t really understand how such a powerful tool like 3ds max can be used, say, at least 80% and how it can recoup the time spent. Naturally I won’t ask a stupid question about how much you earn, but at least someone pays and I think it's better for karma than using a hacked product
Using hacked software is not a good thing as people that work on it are after all putting there ward work there. This is why companies like Autodesk have programs for learning where you could sign in and use the software for free with non-commercials purpose. As I said in the previous message it really is an investment, if you are on having the client or working projects (mostly AAA) you need tools that are aligned with the industry, but if you are doing assets or selling models on your own or just have found a studio that uses some other free softwares and you don’t find the value either to invest your time or money in software like 3Ds Max, it’s great. I totally support that as well, I know many awesome artists that use Max or Maya only in there professional work and use Blender in non-profit personal projects. After all once you get the basics and knowledge behind creating 3D art, what tools you are using is a matter of personal preference or professional needs.
@@UpsideDownTutorials For sure, I agree. I am personally using some dated tools like 3dsMax 2010 only for a room viewport concept. And learning Blender 2.8 now, for a final 3d model setup with combination of tools like a Substance, but I have to buy Maya for karma, because I do not use any of tools inside the internet. Maya have a very good animation and rigging tools for a triple-A games... And I never used 3dsMax even on 40%, but I have like a 10 years of experience in a 3D modelling inside 3dsMax and other tools like Maya, Blender and ZBrush, and I am living in a poor country where is almost impossible to get free 2000$ for a 40% 3dsMax usage...
Maya is an awesome software, it was actually the one I started learning at 1st, before found job in game dev and started using Max. I totally get you about the coat of license, I’m also originally from Bulgaria, which is for sure not known as the riches place :) but I was lucky to use Max license from work and later student version at home.
HI THE PLUGINS IS THE PROBLEME
Ye I agree, I sometimes wait for months to be able to get an update. But I have to say that so far 2021 has been running very smoothly and I’m happy with the new stuff.
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A support guy for MAX highly recommended to NOT switch to MAX 2021 now since there are and will be bugs found in the next few months. I am too using 2016 and never upgraded. I do feel that I will do soon to 2021.
I usually wait until service pack 2 comes for the version, but yes 2016 was such a nice one that I didn’t feel the need of update so far. Now I think that 2021 is also right on the spot as it features some very much needed things but also is improved from 2020 as a lot of the stuff we saw there were not very polished.
As the PM for 3ds Max, I would be very interested in which support person said that. ;) Each release is a release. You can look at 2021 essentially as 2020.4. It’s just a carry over. The new features have been in development & tested pretty thoroughly. Gone are the days of waiting for service packs. So much has been stabilized the last 3 years there’s no need to wait for another Update. ❤️
Thank you for the inside look on the topic, I can say that it’s obvious that the approach has changed not only in terms of software stability but also in terms of how features are being developed. I generally have the feeling that recent updates are not only getting much needed features but also implementing then in a easier to use and understand way, with much more simplistic interface.
Still one with my 2016 version.
It used to be simple and less cluttered but now, complicated. I switch to Blender.
If you are talking about the interface it never changed much. As for Blender I think it’s more unclear and unstructured.
me too
Happy to hear! Welcome aboard ;) how do you find the 2021 so far?
@@UpsideDownTutorials i have been using 3dsmax for about 10 years, and just following it from web ...
3ds max should have had PBR materials and realtime viewports 5 years ago...
I must admit that 2021 has a few nice upgrades.. It's just too late.. I started converting to blender long ago, and I have worked with 3ds max for the last 20 years now
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clickbait title alert ....an upgrade and switching are 2 different things.
Make 3ds Max Great Again