CZ Shadow 2 vs Sig P320 X5 Legion

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  • Опубликовано: 20 окт 2024
  • Two of the best 9mm pistols ever made head to head, to help you figure out which one is the best for you. Accuracy, reliabiliy, cost, ease of use, accessories and everything else you need to know.
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  • @Quality_Guru
    @Quality_Guru 4 года назад +402

    I purchased the CZ firearm after a glowing review from the Honest Outlaw. If you closely examine a CZ Shadow 2 pistol it has secret indications that the pistol has been rigorously tested. I thought that the barrel had a wear mark where it interfaced with the slide. I also noticed some pin marks within the underside of the slide. What I thought were defects turned out to be part of their robust QC process. The pistol is put on a mechanism that repeatedly cycles the slide for an extensive period of time to ensure a smooth operation. The pin marks are part of the Rockwell hardening test. Both of these tests are what you would see in a Class 1 Quality classification. Class 1 is any safety related class Item or any item whose failure/malfunction could result in extensive machine downtime. Sorry for the long comment but the Shadow 2 is in a class of its own just like the Honest Outlaw.

    • @JohnShaw26.2
      @JohnShaw26.2 4 года назад +8

      Quality Guru CZ dry fires every double single action gun 1000 times in factory 🏭

    • @MARSH912
      @MARSH912 4 года назад +7

      Quality Guru I’d take the cz all day over other options

    • @aml8444
      @aml8444 4 года назад +3

      good reply!

    • @chaboi7
      @chaboi7 4 года назад +2

      My dream handguns= cz dwx & Hayes custom ría 10mm double stack...let's get it!

    • @chaboi7
      @chaboi7 4 года назад +1

      Disclaimer, idk much about the dwx but if it isn't .45 then I'll go with the cz 97 cajunized

  • @chubbycatfish4573
    @chubbycatfish4573 4 года назад +66

    Got to go with CZ.

  • @AllRandomized
    @AllRandomized 2 года назад +42

    I have both, and I honestly couldn’t live without both. They’re different but such cool firearms

    • @hrlkt3413
      @hrlkt3413 2 года назад +2

      be a real man and buy urself a mark 23

    • @mixedmarksman5873
      @mixedmarksman5873 2 года назад

      cz all day

    • @ON-O
      @ON-O Год назад

      @@hrlkt3413 Not allowed in IPSC :(

    • @thomaskingsbury6560
      @thomaskingsbury6560 7 месяцев назад

      @@hrlkt3413got that the shadow 2 and 320 legion x5. All good guns.

  • @HatchBackLove27
    @HatchBackLove27 3 года назад +17

    Watching your reviews has lead me to more then one purchase. Love the channel and all the work you put into these reviews. Proud new owner of a CZ Shadow 2 as of today! Best of luck with your future videos keep up the great reviews!

  • @LiorIPSC
    @LiorIPSC 4 года назад +19

    Thanks for a decent comparative review from a very competent shooter! Everything you've said makes sense. I was contemplating a P320 Legion but in the end went with a Shadow 2 Optics Ready, because I like the idea of choosing my own grips for my big mitts. That said seeing this review reaffirms that I would have been very happy with the Sig too!
    Keep up the good work Sir.

    • @deanmiles3505
      @deanmiles3505 5 месяцев назад +1

      You can always get them both LOL! It’s always too hard to deicide with so many great choices.

  • @billtshudy3653
    @billtshudy3653 3 года назад +7

    Picking up an X5 Legion tomorrow. Can't wait to compare it to my TSO. 6 CZ's in the collection, this will be the 1st Sig.

    • @johnwall9725
      @johnwall9725 8 месяцев назад +2

      I'm the exact opposite, 8 Sigs, first CZ. Not disappointed with any of them

  • @SEAKPhotog
    @SEAKPhotog 4 года назад +14

    Oh and BTW, I'm always impressed by your shooting skills.

  • @RedEyePergo
    @RedEyePergo 4 года назад +22

    CZ by a mile ! Hammer fired guns triggers are superior period. Lower bore axis , steel frame and just looks cooler too.

  • @DeltaVTX
    @DeltaVTX 2 года назад +12

    So I watched this video and struggled trying to figure out which one of these would be best for me. I couldn’t make up my mind… so I bought both. This weekend is gonna be fun.

    • @JacksonWalter735
      @JacksonWalter735 2 года назад +1

      Which one did you like better? I'm trying to pick one out for my dad for Father's Day.

    • @DeltaVTX
      @DeltaVTX 2 года назад +3

      @@JacksonWalter735 700 rds through each so far. Price aside, the Sig is more fun and more accessible. The CZ is an absolute laser; I shoot strings I didn’t know I was capable of with it. I’ve had zero failures in either.
      If you get him the Sig, don’t ever tell him the CZ was an option.

    • @JacksonWalter735
      @JacksonWalter735 2 года назад

      @@DeltaVTX will do. Thank you so much for the advice. I appreciate it.

  • @2fastlm
    @2fastlm 4 года назад +24

    Absolutely love my Cz Shadow 2, the X5 is my safe queen. I shoot my 941 Jericho as good as my S2.

    • @afrosheenix
      @afrosheenix 4 года назад +9

      The Jericho is criminally underrated and ignored by the aftermarket. It is an excellent cz pattern gun and a sweet shooter. Only drawback is you must love it out of the box cause you ain't changing it.

    • @brianvisser5546
      @brianvisser5546 4 года назад +3

      Love my 941 Jericho. Just wish it had a better trigger. Is the CZ trigger better?

    • @bencarter6361
      @bencarter6361 4 года назад +1

      Yes my IMI Jericho 941F is a close 2nd to my new Shadow 2. Love them both!

    • @mikebyerly2344
      @mikebyerly2344 4 года назад +3

      I have two 941's, great guns!

  • @Namesi
    @Namesi 4 года назад +68

    Can't wait for the Dan Wesson DWX vs. AccuShadow review!!!

    • @HonestOutlawReviews
      @HonestOutlawReviews  4 года назад +38

      that will happen

    • @snowgorilla9789
      @snowgorilla9789 4 года назад +10

      @@HonestOutlawReviews When you do PLEASE show us the guts 1911 trigger group in a Shadow frame as good as it gets

    • @linkchen8245
      @linkchen8245 4 года назад +2

      DWX 1975 pls

    • @Namesi
      @Namesi 4 года назад +1

      @M. Denz Good thing I live in California and it will cost me double either way ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    • @gutyourtrust
      @gutyourtrust 3 года назад

      @@HonestOutlawReviews yeeehawww

  • @TheOptimi5t
    @TheOptimi5t 2 года назад +9

    Someone may have mentioned this in a previous comment but the Accu shadow has the CZC upgraded trigger so it's definitely going to outshoot the stock X5 trigger all day every day. However, the X5 has some pretty amazing and absolutely necessary trigger upgrades that make it WAY nicer. Also, the X5 has a competition-legal gas pedal that really helps with the recoil management. That being said, LOVE your reviews, LOVE your channel, and LOVE both these guns!!!

    • @johnwall9725
      @johnwall9725 10 месяцев назад +1

      CZ trigger definitely better, but I have more rounds down range with the X5. It's still a toss up. Need more time with the CZ

    • @T3MPTAT10NS
      @T3MPTAT10NS 9 месяцев назад +1

      What upgrades for the x5 trigger

  • @gmro-ronosinski5102
    @gmro-ronosinski5102 3 года назад +5

    Another great vs. review! Been a CZ fanboy for years. Agree! But just picked up the X5 and Romeo1 Pro and really love it as well. Keep up the great content. 💯🔫👊🏼

  • @halfdollar86
    @halfdollar86 4 года назад +14

    My favorite pistols by far are full size target pistols too.

  • @garybrown422
    @garybrown422 3 года назад +3

    Just bought the CZ shadow today. Already own the Orange and a CZ compact 9mm. These are some fine shooting pistols. If you love the CZ's check out the CZ compact. It's a great carry pistol.

  • @neileddy6159
    @neileddy6159 3 года назад +11

    This is actually one of my biggest pet peeves about gun reviews, it is never an out of the box comparison. 1 is always their preferred, 10k rounds through, 7 or 8 mods, Gucci gun vs a stock pistol.
    Give me stock vs stock, then modded vs modded.
    That all being said the stock CZ is smoother than the X5. I personally hate the safety and double action and love Sigs flat striker trigger more. Adding the dot and compensater to the sig changes also makes for a much better firing gun, though the X5 was very very good to begin with.
    For a 800 dollar gun vs a 1900 dollar gun I think per dollar the X5 wins. If money is of no consequence then the CZ wins. If you install the compensater and with the red dot I prefer the Sig at any price.
    My 2 cents.

    • @M0onM0nkey
      @M0onM0nkey 3 года назад +1

      Agreed on basically all accounts, though when one appreciates the inate qualities of a particular firearm, they tend to invest in it and cherish it moreso than others..so that in and of itself is telling.

    • @dsxz
      @dsxz 2 года назад +3

      x5 legions are 1000 and shadow 2's are 1200-1300...where are you gettin your numbers man

    • @neileddy6159
      @neileddy6159 2 года назад

      @@dsxz that's what I paid for each when they came out.

    • @michaellingo82
      @michaellingo82 2 года назад

      He compared his accushadow witch are $1,800 to a stock $1000 x5

  • @96kylar
    @96kylar 4 года назад +13

    I'll hang with my S2. To me, it's just that good.

  • @Gen_Kael
    @Gen_Kael 3 года назад +23

    Definitely not knocking the CZ but I got the X5 and it is the best pistol I've ever had. And my 226 tacops was hard to beat. The x5 was just perfect for me.

  • @jcastle614
    @jcastle614 4 года назад +5

    Cz for the money all the way!! I prefer da/sa too the striker fired pistols . Personal preference; the cz is a much better looking pistol to me also in my opinion, and the grip just feels better to me on the cz Shadow than the sig.

  • @budbud13411
    @budbud13411 4 года назад +2

    I have an X5 Legion and I love it. After watching a bunch of Honest Outlaw’s videos, I just had to order a Shadow 2. Cant wait to get my hands on it!

    • @howtoshootstraighthtss4948
      @howtoshootstraighthtss4948 4 года назад

      Which one you like better?

    • @budbud13411
      @budbud13411 4 года назад

      I’m a better shoot with the X5 but the CZ is just sooooo sweet. The S2 is by far my more preferred pistol over the X5.

  • @T3MPTAT10NS
    @T3MPTAT10NS 9 месяцев назад +3

    So we saw the big boys, now do a fallow up with the little brothers.
    Sig p365 axg legion vs shadow 2 compact!!!

  • @kingbaldwiniv5409
    @kingbaldwiniv5409 4 года назад +14

    Shot both and I agree, the Sig is a great pistol, but the Shadow 2 is just better.
    That said, I would pay for either one, they are both worth the price, and I am cheap.

    • @killervztwogaming5796
      @killervztwogaming5796 4 года назад

      accu shadow 2 is $2000+
      p320 legion is $850
      not exactly a fair comparison.

    • @kingbaldwiniv5409
      @kingbaldwiniv5409 4 года назад

      @@killervztwogaming5796, I don't know where you are shopping, but at my snooty gun club it is not $2000.

    • @killervztwogaming5796
      @killervztwogaming5796 4 года назад

      @@kingbaldwiniv5409 Accu Shadow 2 has msrp of $2138.

    • @kingbaldwiniv5409
      @kingbaldwiniv5409 4 года назад +1

      @@killervztwogaming5796, great, you can get it for a lot less.

    • @damon323
      @damon323 4 года назад

      @@kingbaldwiniv5409 The Accu Shadow goes for around $1,650. That’s still double the price of the X5 Legion. Lol!! Don’t get me wrong, the Shadow is worth every penny and more, but it’s not a fair comparison.

  • @Gola308
    @Gola308 4 года назад +2

    After a lot of RUclips research, I just received my CZ Shadow 2 Black and Blue and put 200 rounds through it the first time out. Simply awesome! Amazing accuracy and reliability out of the box. Not sure I need to do anything to it, but I probably will, because I can't help it.... I'm primarily a Glock guy (since 1990), but I also own a CZ 75 SP-01 Tactical and it is amazing to shoot as well. Both are much more fun and accurate than any of my Glocks. Maybe change is good... BTW, Go Hawks!

    • @brc1945
      @brc1945 4 года назад

      CZ’s the best!

    • @paulryndak9916
      @paulryndak9916 3 года назад

      I own a sp01 as well but not tactical. Curious of your thoughts, I’m tempted to get the shadow2 as well like you did but it seems somewhat similar in size, although it’s clearly a step up from the sp01. I shot one the other day and it was great. As a guy that only owns 5 handguns, it’s tempting to pay up a little more for the TS2, it’s a little bigger and has the 20rd mag just because I worry the sp01 and shadow would be too similar. Have no plans for comp shooting just fun.

    • @Gola308
      @Gola308 3 года назад

      @@paulryndak9916 You know it's funny, but I haven't shot either CZ in quite a while. Been back to shooting my Glock 17 and 30 year old Glock 19. Recoil is a bit snappier and the triggers aren't quite as good as the CZ's, but they're still very enjoyable and reliable to me. Don't know what's wrong with me, the CZs are more accurate. Your'e probably fine with the SP01. The Shadow 2 is really expensive, a little more accurate because of the lighter trigger, but I don't think the slightly improved accuracy justifies the cost. It's still a handgun after all, and your not going to be shooting any bad guys past 5-7 yards with either gun.

  • @jaceprovo
    @jaceprovo 4 года назад +10

    I own both guns. And I have to give it to CZ. It’s just better. As far as the optic goes, I Purchased mine from CZ custom and had them cut for an RMR. Then I changed all the springs, the firing pin, lightened the recoil spring from stock 16 lbs to 10 lbs ( all from Cajun gun works and done myself) and put on some lok grips.
    The gun from CZ Custom was on sale for $1050 plus the cut to $1300. Springs and pin maybe $100 and the look grips $125?
    I have an STI DVC 3 and a Staccato XC. The CZ competes with them is amazing for a fraction of the price. The STIs are just a little bit better for me: better safety, 1911 trigger...but splitting hairs.
    My humble opinion.

  • @mangoman62
    @mangoman62 3 года назад +5

    I have to say that you do the best reviews, the best commentary, the best content, and the very best shooting of any RUclipsr I've seen.

  • @Holden1296
    @Holden1296 4 года назад +7

    I like the CZ. I just think it looks cooler (+ awesome trigger). Also better for appendix carry.

  • @jimbob.2299
    @jimbob.2299 4 года назад +15

    Wait!! Aren't you known for being biased FOR the CZ? I seem to recall videos you made where you said your gun is always a CZ.

  • @Jhyles83
    @Jhyles83 4 года назад +36

    i think we all knew what was gonna happen in this vid before we watched it haha

  • @webviking
    @webviking 2 года назад +1

    Very well observed, analyzed, and described. Thanks. I never liked my polymer frame pistols because of their light weight, irritating recoil, and difficulty with accuracy, so I sold them. My new 40-45 ounce steel frame pistols and 43.5 ounce Sig P320 X5 Legion pistol are much more comfortable, enjoyable, and accurate. Also, I carry them comfortably.

    • @kadenwhiting2680
      @kadenwhiting2680 2 года назад

      What holster are you using to carry the sig? I’ve been looking for one

  • @RJoe-mw2bc
    @RJoe-mw2bc 4 года назад +1

    Hey welcome back! saw this pop up in my reccomendations a few minutes ago and i'm glad to see you got your channel recovered

  • @alphazerotactical1518
    @alphazerotactical1518 4 года назад +16

    To each it’s own. I love the shadow 2 and competed with it for 2 years. But the grip angle and frame is a bit too wide and a struggle to shoot. Going with the x5 for carry optics, easier to move around a stage and a lot more versatile.

    • @TeensierPython
      @TeensierPython 2 года назад +2

      I had a 2011 that I used in 3-gun. My baby sized hands had trouble with that gun. I am looking for a replacement now. May have to take a look at the legion.

  • @hiketheball
    @hiketheball 2 года назад +3

    I now have both and prefer heavier handguns because I am recoil sensitive and my hands shake. Both pistols help with recoil and reduce my shaking. My final opinion as THO but not all the particulars are the same. I prefer Green fiber sights. That said, I find the Shadow 2 to be a better shooter for me. My Shadow 2 is stock, BTW. That it is a little heavier and the bore axis is lower makes a difference for me. The recoil flip is also probably a factor. Were I buying today with what I know now, I would buy the Shadow 2 and not buy the Sig. THO's review coincides with my experience on these two fine pistols.

    • @jodythepig1
      @jodythepig1 Год назад

      I am 76 and the older I get the more "shakes". Had quite a few CZs but I enjoy Handloading my own ammo and I always find they are "short chambered" and they "choke" on the ammo I feed my other 8 or so other various brands of 9s. Like having a child who won't eat what the others in a large family will eat. Others will answer I could send the CZ barrel off to get this problem fixed. BUT at my age "I don't even buy green a banana!!!

  • @quicktoevil
    @quicktoevil 4 года назад +14

    owned both. kept the Sig.

  • @macktheknife3256
    @macktheknife3256 4 года назад +3

    I'm going to stick with my CZ 75B. Maybe I'll trick it out with a pair of VZ Grips. Great videos.

  • @BigJohnsonGG
    @BigJohnsonGG 4 года назад +14

    #czlife Indeed, I second your findings! Carry on

    • @e.l.robbins5614
      @e.l.robbins5614 4 года назад +2

      I agree. The sigs a great entry level competition gun though. Carry on Big Johnson

    • @BigJohnsonGG
      @BigJohnsonGG 4 года назад +1

      E.L. Robbins Carry On Brother!👊🏼

  • @snipervictim
    @snipervictim 4 года назад +3

    I am and will always be a CZ guy only thing I like more is a nice 1911 guess I am just getting old !

  • @brettheiner7125
    @brettheiner7125 4 года назад +3

    Have and love them both, but the Shadow 2 is the better gun. Smoother, better trigger and lower bore axis - easier to shoot well. Still glad I have both.

  • @CalClassix
    @CalClassix 2 года назад +2

    Comparing apples and oranges?
    The Sig P320 is legal in IDPA, as it touches on the max allowed weight, the Shadow 2 is not as it's a boat anchor.

  • @coletrain4121
    @coletrain4121 4 года назад

    Thx man. Wanted the Shadow. Just realized the Sig existed. Asked google to compare and there you are.
    The Shadow 2 (sans accu) may be my sweet spot budget wise.

  • @nrchrist
    @nrchrist 4 года назад +6

    Bought a CZ Shadow 2, and I love it, little recoil, good site picture!!! What holster do you use for yours?

  • @sites
    @sites 3 года назад

    At the end he said a couple hundred more for the S2. More like almost a couple yards. Still worth it if you can work it. Great review.

  • @jasonmeehan6080
    @jasonmeehan6080 4 года назад +3

    I have both of these guns and love them both for different reasons.

  • @billypee5280
    @billypee5280 Год назад

    I cannot believe the mark up we have here in Canada it’s unreal. I picked up the Legion just before the buying stoppage kicked in and paid just over 1600 Can. The Shadow was upwards of 2400. Im happy with the Legion but ideally I wanted both in my collection. Things just ain’t right up here. Awesome review btw. Huge fan of your content 😬👍

  • @catman-hi5cn
    @catman-hi5cn 10 месяцев назад

    Been loving my x5 for 2 years. I have slightly shaky hands and the extra weight in the grip helps me account for that

  • @EdResleff
    @EdResleff 2 года назад

    If I ever decide to move to a higher quality of weapon and a competition shooting style (which is really a passion for some)... then I can appreciate this video for the level of hair-splitting you go through. To the degree at which I use and shoot... My standard P320 XCarry is a great upgrade from the first pistol I ever bought (Sig SP2022 .40). And don't get me wrong... I love my SP2022...!
    But I did really enjoy your walk-through... VERY informative...!

  • @bulletsandbread
    @bulletsandbread 4 года назад +2

    XFive owner and I agree, both are nice platforms but the Shadow 2 is definitely the front runner. Price point and ease of getting into it the Legion was very forgiving. Then Shadow 2 though is such a smooth shooter.

  • @lomesh08
    @lomesh08 Год назад

    Thanks making this video it’s really help me out to which one i need to but i save my lots off time thank you 🙏

  • @lllottolll
    @lllottolll 4 года назад +9

    It's interesting that he failed to mention the problem with CZ Shadow 2 frame cracking.... google it.
    And comparing an Accu Shadow that cost a $1000 more than a X5 Legion is sort of silly. But even in his lopsided comparison, he's shown that the Sig is by far the better value.

    • @Spurrific13
      @Spurrific13 4 года назад

      Agree. I just got the X5 Legion and it’s a helluva gun. Comparing something that’s double the price doesn’t make sense. That CZ has many mods on it. The legion out of the box has serious value.

    • @darknightbegins85
      @darknightbegins85 3 года назад

      Well sig markets this as a competition gun. I’m getting one in dec and sending it to the sig armourer for trigger work and a few other things. Then sticking a Romeo 2 on it whenever it comes out. Will be an open carry winter gun and competition gun

    • @Glock7eventeen
      @Glock7eventeen 2 года назад

      I believe all steel/aluminum framed pistols, including all 1911s and even the beretta m9 have cracking issues, it’s just what it is, if you shoot it long enough the metal will eventually give out.

  • @Beastro777
    @Beastro777 3 года назад

    The reset on that shadow is awesome.

  • @brandonirizarry8154
    @brandonirizarry8154 4 года назад +3

    You have became my favorite youtuber, I've been watching you for 2 years now, just enjoy your vids and great shooting more than the rest, question: do you still shoot you P09?

  • @floydshaw6996
    @floydshaw6996 4 года назад +4

    I just discovered your channel and I love it. Great reviews. Where do you get your shooting gloves?

  • @rf3899
    @rf3899 4 года назад +3

    Great video and shooting!!! Got to go with the CZ. Any plans to review the new beretta 92x performance?

  • @StoicJason
    @StoicJason 4 года назад +2

    The CZ wins in every department over the Sig except durability. The slide stop is still the weak link in the traditional CZs. It's basically a consumable part for high volume shooters, but thankfully they're cheap and easily replaceable.

  • @18ipmg
    @18ipmg 4 года назад +9

    Shadow 2 is the best pistol for the money.

    • @chookchack
      @chookchack 4 года назад

      Isaac Paul Mendes Graf how much is it?

    • @golf369
      @golf369 5 месяцев назад

      1200

  • @slimdog7088
    @slimdog7088 4 года назад

    Just ordered $250 in Olite gear for Christmas gifts thru your link. Great deals going on right now! The outlaw10 code didn’t work but I’m guessing that’s because they already have such deep discounts going on? Keep up the great work my man!

  • @Holden1296
    @Holden1296 4 года назад +1

    That CZ is just awesome. I actually watched the vid again because I like it so much :) Honest Outlaw, please lend it to me if you are feeling extremely giving this year. Just to barrow.

  • @MrKlein83
    @MrKlein83 4 года назад +2

    You are a CZ fanboy & that's OK! I can't justify spending $1,300 on a Shadow 2 yet so I bought a P10F OR (thanks to you & other Tubers reviews). Made more sense buying a P10F because I want a MRD, and I'm used to striker fired triggers (thanks Glock).

    • @markiplierSINGSbadly
      @markiplierSINGSbadly 4 года назад

      MrKlein83 shadow 2 can be had for under $1100

    • @MrKlein83
      @MrKlein83 4 года назад

      @@markiplierSINGSbadly If I buy one new from my local gun store the price is $1,241.13 OTD

    • @afrosheenix
      @afrosheenix 4 года назад

      @@MrKlein83 that's why you shop online and get it shipped to your ffl. My lgs charges retail on everything, they're ridiculous.

    • @MrKlein83
      @MrKlein83 4 года назад

      @@afrosheenix My favorite local gun shop owner only charges customers a 10% markup from his cost to purchase items. Yes, I could find a CZ Shadow 2 cheaper than what he charges but I'd rather support his/my local shop vs. some out of state shop. I've known him for a long time, he repaired a shotgun for me once at no charge and let me use his shop/tools to complete my AR build (I only purchased the lower from him for 55 bucks). Real life interactions and friendships are more important to me than saving a few bucks even though I'm broke as a joke most of the time. Back to my original point: I'm not a competition shooter, I can't justify spending $1,100+ on a handgun even if it's well worth the price tag. Instead I purchased a "sensible" P10F optics ready pistol (I'm dot curious) and 1,000rnds of ammo to have a blast with.

  • @jimrodriguez8047
    @jimrodriguez8047 4 года назад +5

    Great review Outlaw! How about CZ TSO vs Accushadow? Battling brothers...

  • @dalebeckham
    @dalebeckham 4 года назад +3

    The X5 is approved for USPSA production division with the mag well removed.

    • @diegomontejo4657
      @diegomontejo4657 2 года назад

      I am sorry can you explain me please if I can used this x5 for production thanks

  • @blbbtactical6969
    @blbbtactical6969 4 года назад +6

    Wow, really hard choice. I love Sig and that X5 Legion is friggin beautiful. CZ shadow is a great gun.
    I'm going with the Sig though lol

  • @ckim6400
    @ckim6400 4 года назад +8

    CZ all the way, not that the Sig isn't Good but the CZ is Better.

    • @ckim6400
      @ckim6400 4 года назад

      @Rabbi Jesus That was the perception when they first were coming into America, because they were foreign made. Actually the CZ 75 was a top of line pistol back in the early 90's. There was a Big resistance to them because where they were made. Even today until recently people have ignored CZ.

    • @killervztwogaming5796
      @killervztwogaming5796 4 года назад

      well $2000+ vs $850...
      so it better be a hell of a lot better

    • @killervztwogaming5796
      @killervztwogaming5796 4 года назад

      @Rabbi Jesus he is comparing an Accu Shadow 2.
      MSRP: $2138

    • @ckim6400
      @ckim6400 4 года назад

      @@killervztwogaming5796 The standard Shadow 2 is superior to the Sig X-5 Legion. Standard model sells for $1199.00

    • @ckim6400
      @ckim6400 4 года назад

      @Rabbi Jesus To be fair there is a difference between the Shadow 2 (production pistol) and the Shadow 2 Accu (CZ Custom pistol) The Accu Shadow 2 is a Shadow 2 with a 1911 style barrel bushing. Retail is $1988 from CZ Custom. Truth being the Accu Shadow 2 is taken down like a 1911 using the barrel bushing rather than just the take down pin of the Shadow 2 which does not use a 1911 style barrel bushing.

  • @DurrBusDriver
    @DurrBusDriver 4 года назад +5

    I'd really like to get the CZ Shadow 2 Optics Ready (OR) but I have not seen one in the US

  • @jamiesloan5902
    @jamiesloan5902 4 года назад

    I love pistols that can be carried in double action. Safe to carry, without having to engage a safety. I actually carry my PT-111 G2 in a decocked condition. I break it down, insert a round into the chamber, and behind the extractor, then barely let the breakdown tabs lock, when placing the slide back on. If you go too far, it will cock the striker. Because it has double strike capability, my first shot is now double-action. A little trick I figured out, on my own. Nice feature!

    • @jasonkav
      @jasonkav Год назад

      Never go off half cocked!

  • @halfdollar86
    @halfdollar86 4 года назад +7

    Shadow 2 ALL DAY long and twice on Sundays.

  • @neipas02
    @neipas02 3 года назад

    I sold my 320 legion yesterday and used the money to buy the shadow 2. Love the shadow 2.

  • @tonycarpaccio9550
    @tonycarpaccio9550 Год назад +1

    Love your videos and reviews man but I really would have preferred it if you had compared a CZ Shadow 2 Blue Grip to the X5 Legion instead of an Accushadow which is literally more than double the price of a Shadow 2. It makes me wonder how much of what you like is the Accushadow vs the Shadow 2.

  • @maartenoosterbaan6748
    @maartenoosterbaan6748 4 года назад +7

    as a cz guy obviously i prefer the CZ, it is in his configuration almost 700 dollars more expensive than the sig I believe?

  • @juliannaaka-babayega8941
    @juliannaaka-babayega8941 4 года назад +2

    Love your videos. :) Just wondering...would you be open to placing 25, 50, and 75 yard markers on your course so we the viewers know from where you shoot? You and Mrs., are totally AWESOME!! Thanks for the 'Honest' work you do (you know what I mean ;). Big hugz from the little one in Canada.

  • @GKUZYK1
    @GKUZYK1 4 года назад +3

    Excellent video detailing all on both guns..Shadow 2 has no option for a optic at all. real killer for some including myself. Sig X 5 legion is the way to go for me

  • @KrakenBolter
    @KrakenBolter Год назад

    the cz shadow highlights the strengths of the DA/SA pistols where at the higher shooting levels goes beyond the simpler striker fire pistols.

  • @aab9828
    @aab9828 4 года назад +30

    Not apples to apples review. CZ is custom with mods, Sig is stock.

    • @jamesharris184
      @jamesharris184 3 года назад

      Not apples to apple such a wonderfully simple expression that everyone gets.

    • @HatchBackLove27
      @HatchBackLove27 3 года назад

      I do have to agree but he does have trigger time on the CZ Shadow 1, 2 and the custom. Which he has said over and over again that all are amazing guns that shoot with small differences but what is said about the custom can also pretty much be said about the Shadow 2.

    • @stevel3565
      @stevel3565 3 года назад

      Price compare should be more like: Sig P320 X5 $800, CZ Accushadow 2 $1900 (as of May 2021)?

  • @GiJoeVideo
    @GiJoeVideo 4 года назад +8

    I have a Shadow Sp-01 Target II and Sig Legion X5. I love the feel of the Sig grip in the hand compared to my CZ although I think thicker grips on the CZ would make it fit my hand better. Any recommendations for CZ grips?

    • @afrosheenix
      @afrosheenix 4 года назад +3

      Lok palm swell bogies. End of story unless you want aluminum, then it's Henning.

    • @troyshields6696
      @troyshields6696 4 года назад +2

      Also LOK another option I like is the LOK Ridgeback

    • @mickbowling4412
      @mickbowling4412 4 года назад +1

      LOK Grips are now just as expensive as VZ and in my opinion the VZ grips are the better option. I do own several of both.

    • @motoriderguy3854
      @motoriderguy3854 2 года назад

      Try some armonov aluminum grips , you can choose how much palm swell you want .

    • @kotmartnoskin2322
      @kotmartnoskin2322 2 года назад

      Duct tape!!!!! 🤣🤣😂🤣😂🤣 but LOK is a good option too😁

  • @MarsWolf82
    @MarsWolf82 4 года назад

    Owning both, I'm with you Honest, The Shadow 2 is just a slicker better gun.

  • @roxannekulczyk3381
    @roxannekulczyk3381 4 года назад

    I love my x5 legion, it is my go to. i have a Baretta PX 4 storm and a Baby Eagle and my go to choice is my legion. LOVE IT>>>>

  • @jamiesloan5902
    @jamiesloan5902 4 года назад +3

    I seem to always gravitate to the larger backstrap, with guns that have that option. I have long hands, and fingers, too. I'm gonna look, and see if you've done a review on the Canik TP9 SFx. I love mine!!!!

    • @wireman290
      @wireman290 4 года назад

      I'd like to see that too. Bought one couple months ago, and the best word I can use to describe it is "fun".

  • @marcelomarchetti9375
    @marcelomarchetti9375 3 года назад

    I got convinced: I’ll definitivelly go for a CZ Shadow II

  • @frutoish
    @frutoish 4 года назад +6

    Goddamn I love my Sig tho. Just got back from shooting the crap out of this morning

  • @nicholasrodriguez5578
    @nicholasrodriguez5578 4 года назад +1

    @Honest Outlaw Do you like the tungsten frame? I prefer metal guns, but own a p320. Thinking maybe getting the frame will help me like it more.

  • @REBELSCL
    @REBELSCL 4 года назад +4

    In reference to the Legion’s grip, couldn’t you both increase the grip size and retention level by installing on of the grip wraps that Sig sells? (Or any other manufacturer’s).

  • @MrDucatiV4
    @MrDucatiV4 7 месяцев назад +3

    Striker fire+polymer Sig 🤢🤮..... I'll take the CZ shadow 2 all day!

  • @MikeScott55
    @MikeScott55 4 года назад

    So I just bought the Sig the other day after watching your vids and talking with you on the comparison between your G34. So far I couldn’t be happier. I want to work more and more on getting comfy with how it handles and the reloads and then hopefully get out and do some amateur events to see what I’ve got. I just wanted to say thanks for commenting back to my questions before. Really appreciated it. And I’m still voting on the gundies for you. Hope you win!

  • @spencerfrank8901
    @spencerfrank8901 2 года назад +1

    I feel like they aren’t comparable… just depends on intention…. After reading a lot of comment the sport shooters are all saying cz and are installing upgrades… but for a duty gun I know a lot of people who side with the x5

  • @kevinmorrison9063
    @kevinmorrison9063 4 года назад +1

    I have both. Both are great but I also prefer the CZ.

  • @jamiesloan5902
    @jamiesloan5902 4 года назад +1

    I'd take the CZ Shadow. No question about it. My dad, and one of my buddies have reliability problems, with their Sigs.

  • @ytTonyZ
    @ytTonyZ 4 года назад

    Kind of like comparing Corvettes to a Ferrari. The Sig is a better value and has a world record to it's credit, but you get what you pay for with the CZ. The Target Sport Orange has a bolt on frame mount for a Red Dot sight, but it is only useable in higher classes, not Oest IDPA classes that requires on slide mounts. As much as I like my P226 RX Legion, I am looking forward to shooting the Shadow.
    Cheers

  • @user-yy4ju1en5y
    @user-yy4ju1en5y 4 года назад +1

    I would like to mention that the x5 legion is one of the most popular carry optics choices in Uspsa right now....which is why I dont understand why Sig is putting Legions out the door with a loaded chamber indicator barrel hood cut that blows so much crap on your optic that its a nightmare. So me and everyone I know send them back to Sig and Sig will rebarrel the gun. They do it for free...and they are nice about it....but still.I have heard some of the new legions do not have the LCI but look for it and be aware of it before you buy one with the intention of mounting an optic...

  • @pxjydz303
    @pxjydz303 4 года назад +20

    So, something I've been wondering. You've put thousands of rounds downrange through probably hundreds (?) Of guns on your property. Have you done anything to mitigate the potential toxic levels of lead leeching into your soil/ ground water?

    • @cullenstagg
      @cullenstagg 4 года назад +3

      He has talked about this in previous videos where he uses frangible and poly to reduce lead going into the ground.

    • @pxjydz303
      @pxjydz303 4 года назад +1

      @@cullenstagg thank you for the info :)

    • @mp40jager
      @mp40jager 4 года назад +2

      @@cullenstagg Gee, where does lead come from. The ground?

    • @Somethingfishyinc
      @Somethingfishyinc 4 года назад +3

      @@mp40jager China

    • @kastapostgard5306
      @kastapostgard5306 4 года назад +4

      mp40jager Great reasoning. Arsenic also comes from the ground so lets pour it in our drinking water?

  • @brettmcculloch5342
    @brettmcculloch5342 7 дней назад

    Yesterday i traded a standard sig p320 (with a few accessories) and $450 for the blue shadow 2. Im excited to get out and shoot the shadow.

  • @Nod_N_Tap
    @Nod_N_Tap 4 года назад +4

    Would be nice to see CZ making a Shadow 2 counterpart in the striker fire configuration.

    • @classicgator2434
      @classicgator2434 3 года назад

      They just did. The P-10 F Comp Ready. Released today.

    • @sethrich5998
      @sethrich5998 2 года назад +1

      @@classicgator2434 That’s hardly in the same category. It’s still just a standard polymer frame pistol. It needs to be heavier like the steel frame Shadow or tungsten/polymer Legion to be competitive.

  • @davidcole333
    @davidcole333 4 года назад +1

    Phenomenal review. Thank you!

  • @duch135
    @duch135 3 года назад

    Kind sir. Could you possibly tell me what exact trigger upgrade did you get for your shadow 2? In one point of the clip above i probably misunderstood because i think you said x shadow trigger?

  • @justyouraveragezoomer
    @justyouraveragezoomer 4 года назад

    my pistols are like what you'd see being that thicc framed heavys but i gotta say im in love with my Shadow

  • @lyacoubian
    @lyacoubian 4 года назад +1

    I HAVE TO ASK... How would the Walther Q5 Match SF Pro compare to these two 5 inchers..?!?!

  • @MarcHord-mk5ff
    @MarcHord-mk5ff 4 года назад +4

    50 yards ! I need a grenade, nice shooting as always

  • @GAV63
    @GAV63 4 года назад

    My first 9mm was a Sig p320f but I've sold that and now going to get a cz shadow 2

  • @Nonyabusiness911
    @Nonyabusiness911 9 месяцев назад

    I’m going to order a custom cz shadow 2. Not sure about ghost hammers and such but being a lefty I can get those on the right side.

  • @therigobertodelgado1275
    @therigobertodelgado1275 4 года назад

    Can't really afford to be a patreon but I did Just spam like your videos. Thanks to you I was able to make an educated decision the purchase of my optics ready P10C and I love it. I really wanted to go for the f model but since it's for everyday carry the c was more then good enough. I did buy three f size magazines though . It comes in handy on the range and it's my spare mag I use on concealed carry. I rather inherit +3 than inherit minus 1 during the concealed situation if it ever arose.

  • @Jeff-mv4yy
    @Jeff-mv4yy Год назад +1

    I've shot both, and own the CZ. It's not even close. I just can't stand the trigger on the 320 X5. The ergos on the CZ are great also and the SIG is a fail by comparison. . It's also a lot easier to improve the CZ as well with SAO trigger and Cajun parts.

  • @Nuke-China
    @Nuke-China 4 года назад +1

    Can't wait for the DWX review

  • @Vultite
    @Vultite 3 года назад +1

    Would you say the CZ is more accurate than the Sig without the bushing mod?