Hidden/Removed Scene (Tifa and Cloud)
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- Опубликовано: 20 авг 2024
- Normally you can't escape the bar at this point, Tifa will always interrupt your leave and no matter what dialogue choice you make you can't bail on her. But thanks to a nifty little GameShark code I made it possible.
It turned out you were obviously once supposed to be able to just run out of there and trigger this hidden scene. Most of its dialogue has unfortunately been removed from the English versions, but there is still some text in the very end.
When talking to Johnny, you are given a dialogue choice, this choice results in different dialogues so I included both in the video.
After having had a closer look at the regular scene inside the bar I found that apart from the first outdoors box which probably goes something like "Hey, hold on!" the rest of the boxes up to the flashback is just as in the normal scene. But after the flashback...
TEXT FROM JAPANESE VERSION
Translation by GlitterBerri with help from Chocomilk.
Check out Glitterberrie's blog at berriblue.blogs... for more hidden and/or translated stuff.
Tifa:
Looks like you remembered our promise.
Cloud:
I'm not a hero and I'm not famous.
I... can't keep the promise.
Tifa:
But your childhood dream came true, right?
You joined SOLDIER.
Tifa:
So, what are you going to do now?
Cloud:
...... I'll look for Sephiroth.
Tifa:
Sephiroth...... is alive?
Cloud:
If he's dead, I'll leave it at that.
But if he's alive...
...I'll have to settle matters once and for all.
Tifa:
"Settle matters"?
Cloud:
5 years ago... Nibelheim.
Our home town, he...
Tifa:
......
Cloud:
Don't you feel the same, Tifa?
You went through something horrible.
Tifa:
Cloud... you know about what happened?
Cloud:
I know everything... I remember it well.
Tifa:
......
Cloud:
Huh? What's wrong?
Tifa:
......Cloud, you remember......
Barret:
Hey!!
How long are you going to stand here talking so seriously!!
Tifa:
I understand.
You're going to look for Sephiroth.
Tifa:
But... if you change your mind, come back to us.
Executed on the Final Fantasy VII [PAL] (English) PSX version.
Enjoy :)
I'm just watching this now, and Johnny calls Tifa "The Angel of the Slums" which is now a thing in FF7R id say that's pretty cool, ya know?
Well, an angel of this slum. But translation was bad ok
Is the "ya know?" a Rikku reference?
I remember this happening in the original on the non-greatest hits copy.
wow, this is actually a really important scene. normally tifa doesn't find out that cloud has memories of the nibelheim incident until he tells the story at kalm - she doesn't think he was there, and ought to be confused, but doesn't say anything. with this scene, we're signaled that there's something wrong with cloud's memories, plus we get a little backstory on sephiroth. neat.
guys, look at description before you say "this wasnt in my version" it was found via a gameshark code, which means it is in the game im afraid
I remember this scene in the original FF7.
I’m so glad they made and are still remaking this game.
when they said . I felt that
the music in this game was powerful.
This game could’ve been 10x better if they had put the same effort and resources that they did with Chrono Cross
Thts tifas theme
14 years later, thank you youtube recommendations. Very nice
excellent find, it was the subtle plot twists that made this game so great for replay even when not using gameshark. This shows just how much the development team attempted to pour into an amazing game.
The kid cracks me up! "Keep your mitts off Marlene!!" HAHAHA
How are you? It's been so long
I actually glad they took this out. It gives away most of the plot too early in the game.
Ha ha yeah wouldn’t it suck if that happened? :(
I think it's good that they ultimately decided to hold off on Cloud wanting to look for Sephiroth until after the Shinra building section, since the big twist later on at the Northern Crater in Disc 2 is that Cloud's drive, his "need" to find Sephiroth was actually just him answering the Reunion call like all the other "clones" who had Jenova's cells. It would make less sense with this scene in the game because Jenova's more or less completely dormant until she wakes up later on in the Shinra building when Cloud sorta "makes contact" with her.
i think it starts at the honey bee inn when cloud warns himself that "it" has started moving again
This is so cool. I wish it stayed in the game. I understand why 'chasing Sephiroth' didn't make sense at this point, but Johnny trashing you and the kid telling you to keep your mitts of Marlene... priceless.
Watching this again made me realize how this game was one of the best games I've ever played. Oh how the mighty JRPG hath fallen since.
Wow bro , some old comment you got here 😂
Good news from the future, looks like FFVII Remake is just as good as the original.
Hahaha I like how it's like "...sorry" *shit I'm running!* hahahah
This is awesome! Thanks for this. Makes a few things make more sense. Also it's funny as hell, with those guys at the end :)
Yeah I always had the original disc (pre-Greatest Hits) and I do not recall this scene at all. Good find and nice translation job.
This version of events kinda makes sense, as the girl in the slums the next morning mentions how everyone heard them...
This. Is. GOLD! I thought I knew about all hidden dialogue in the game, but this tells me that there is yet much to discover. I have a Game Shark, but I haven't managed to get it working with my PAL version of FFVII... Thanks for posting this man, it's so cool!
iam glad that this was cut from the game mentioning sephiroth at the beginning of the game would ruin the experience
I'm pretty sure Sephiroth is still mentioned in the flashback in the final game. Cloud says he wants to become a great hero like Sephiroth
@@JesseColton Shinra President also mentions Sephiroth in the second bomb attack: "Aaah... Sephiroth, he was brilliant, perhaps too brilliant."
You will not like the Remake
@@ori.g4mi who's gonna tell him lmfao this is what his worst fear was...
That comment didnt aged well
I thought she said that because she herself doesn't remember Cloud being there during the "Nibelheim Incident".
I never knew this! My dad liked this game too and I'll show this to him. Fived and faved!
@@mochammadarfahdnasrullah6420 all good
hmm so in here this scene begins the confusing memories of Cloud and Tifa, because as we all know Tifa didn't know cloud was there as a guard, but cloud thinks he was there as someone else because cloud got Zacks memories. when he and him were expiremented on with Jenova cells. I can see how they took this out seeing how sorta anti-climatic/dramatic it would have been building up to sepiroth and tifa and such. Thanks for posting up this pwns.
I think the dialouge is much the same as the old scene, with some extra lines. It makes more sense with Cloud leaving the bar and Tifa running after him...or at least it makes it more dramatic.
Thanks for putting this up, it was really interesting. Overall, I think this scene being deleted was a wise decision. Way too much of the future plot is exposed here, and it would have made later flashbacks to Nibelheim by Cloud and Tifa far less shocking than they were. I'd say the game editors really did their job here. :-)
Damn 11 years
Actually, the word "clone" was a mistranslation. They never meant it as what we define a clone as today.
@Damian The original says something more akin to copy, rather than clone. Clone makes it sound like a literal clone of sephiroth, but what it actually meant was they were made strong the same way he was by injecting them with jenova cells and exposing them to mako
You get this scene anyway, only difference is it happens outside not inside. I've just finished seeing this like 20 minutes ago on my copy -.-
That tifa's theme is so dopeeeee
Cloud gets to leave a friend and I can't, makes me frustrated.
I played the pal version of Spain and this was in there. I remember almost she asking if seph was alive and saying if cloud remember and suddenly barret stopping the dialoge.
You make a good point, I didn't even think of that - it's been awhile since I've played the game, But it's true, Sephiroth doesn't even get mentioned until after this, if memory serves, so it makes you wonder what else was cut from the script. :-)
I got the last part there between the slums people and cloud on my ps1 using the save anywhere code. saved in the bar (the night after settling with Barret and Tifa)
and when I reloaded I was behind barret.
its good so many know about this scene, guess i was a fool to think otherwise, the games almost 15 years old.
Im replaying t he FF7 PS version, you defiantly cant run out. This was one of the hidden seance that originally was removed due to disk limitations.
actually its a conflict in the storyline, bringing up sephiroth this early in the game would ruin the sweet reveal later during the shinra headquarter raid where we first see the bigger threat in the overall game
Interesting scene, there's quite a bit of foreshadowing there.
i'm glad the dialogue was left out if the translation in the description is correct. cloud wasn't going after sephiroth until later.. the game develops into that
You know something, I had barley heard of the Final Fantasy games in the past but when someone highly recommened me the game over last summer, I played adn I must say, I was blown away. The story was put together very well.
I like it, they introduced Sephiroth earlier and added a bit of character motivation for cloud, as opposed to "I'm just after the money and have no relevance to the plot whatsoever." Still, i love this game. Thanks for the upload, you are very kind :)
i understand why this scene was omitted from the final cut it gives away 2 much 2 fast even if its your first playthrough sephiroth isnt really mentioned untill the shinra building before u leave midgar
Awesome, great scene, it's more interactive. Post more when you can!
I like the early plot dump for cloud's motivation, messes up some other reveals, but you makes tifa cry in the process, so not sure if its worth it.
Ah man... such a cool, impactful scene! Shame that it was cut!
Cloud's statements regarding pursing Sephiroth doesn't seem to make sense to me because Cloud had no idea that Sephiroth was alive, in fact he thought he was dead when he threw him into the lifestream so why would Cloud pursue Sephiroth to figure out whether he's alive or not? As if Sephiroth's "death" was ambiguous?
this is also a reason for this scene's removal,in my opinion
Raheem Plummer he didnt remember throwing Sephiroth into the stream, in his flashback at kalm he only remembered him vs sephiroth then his memories ended, i almost believe this cutscene could still work in the game, just seems like it awkwardly throws a few different wrenches into the story progression i guess, like the 2nd mako reactor mission is supposed to happen which led to meeting aeris, shinra tower, headless jenova and THEN following sephiroth... that got long winded fast XD
the game's story has more holes than swiss cheese, at least it's consistent in that.
Sigma Grindset Cloud peaks on this deleted scene lol.
I wish they kept this. It makes more sense with the Johnny scenes later in the game.
Poor Tifa she doesn't know that cloud is dead. That the real cloud is actually somewhere rotting away, and who she's talking too is nothing more than a look alike.
@igot2remember You're wrong. Cloud isn't a clone, he's just had his mind screwed up so he's confusing his experiences with Zack's. It's Zack who died.
i've seen this before i've seen it everytime I get to this point and also for me it actually has writing in the boxes
Kinda sucks that they took it out. Connects some of the holes in the story as to why Tifa thought the way she did and how she acted towards Cloud.
I wish the new game had this gritty scrap metal 90's aesthetic and feel.
ahhh I see why they changed it...too much info! but very cool, thanks for sharing!
Vaguely interesting, story-wise (and definitely interesting, development-wise), but reading the text afterwards only reminds me of how awkward this game sounds at times.
Cool I keep trying to run out of the bar when i say sorry but she always catches me first...5/5 man good job
Wow, that's actually pretty cool.
Amazing, love it! This is favorited defiantly. I mean, if Cloud left then, who knows what kind of game FFVII could have changed into...?
Lol good point, he's just standing around listening to himself think while everyone's having a huge plot related conversation xD
just like so many cosplays.
and yes, he is, his specialty is swinging that humongous thing around at hyper speed.... woohoo, he's basically got the skills of a 4-year-old with an inflatable sword, throwing a temper tantrum
At least now I now who Jonny is thanks to this
First few lines seem familiar, I think they're in the normal game anyways, but the rest is...interesting. If/when they do a remake of this, maybe they could include some of the cut content? It would save a lot of digging in order to understand the full story.
Yeah...This is in the PS1 version.
@PraiseDivineMercy That's because this was probably from a plotline that handled the sequence of events in an entirely different way. There is enough unused material from VII to make at least another entirely different game.
casi 13 años desde que salio este juego y sigue sorprendiendonos, saludos
Nobody makes Tifa cry!
only Cloud :D
whoa,not seen this before..odd
I get why this was cut, it makes more obvious that’s something wrong with Clouds (or Tifa’s) recollection of events. It’s was hinted at well enough through the game, this would be too much.
Also it kinda ruins Sef’s introduction. Although 80% would’ve forgot about all of that before the time this information would be actually relevant.
(I’m sorry, still learning English)
Huh? I thought Johnny was a new Remake character, turns out he was in the original. Either I forgot about him or he was cut.
He was definitely in the original. He just didn't really have much of a presence.
Yes he's in the game, you can find him on the train and outside of honeybee inn. Can't remember other than that.
He kind of follows the team around. You seem him in Costa del Sol and I'm sure after that too
Funny, i didnt remember him.
Yeah he ends up getting engaged or something thought he was funny but I talked to all the NPC I wanted what ever they could give me. But I still missed ribbon and never beat Jenova∙synthasis.
You did the code? Nice work, it's good to see new people making new codes for games, congratulations, i think it's a little hard to find the exact addresses of the events and you did it, you're very good. Keep the hard work ;)
Bye!
26/08/2010
This would be fun to be a "put your own dialogue"
I wish there was a separate quest where Cloud can go off on his own.
the dialogue seems like to be an alternate storyline leading to a bad end, because without tifa i don't know who'll recover cloud's actual memories since the incident.
agreed, are you sure this is real?
Oh wow it does! And here I always assumed that line was supposed to imply something going on hinthintnudgenudge. But yeah, it did look like Johnny and his friends were spying on Cloud and Tifa while they were talking. It makes perfect sense. :)
I wish we knew what they were supposed to say!
HOW ADORABLE ^_^ Thanks so much for the upload.
Oh I had forgotten about this. Cool.
i wish this was in the game :(
dam must be some good editing on your part according to heymrstone, I believe you though Im glad i browsed around and saw this I actually like this scene
i've seen this before i've seen it everytime I get to this point
@soulwolf2010 Marlene was the little girl that Barret and Tifa were looking after.
The dialogue seems incredibly familier. Only a little bit of the dialogue seems odd, but then I haven't played this game in a long while. And as so many others beleive they have seen this scene in their games too I am going to have to presume that I have too. It's WAY too familier. And I am talking about the part after Cloud leaves the bar ofcourse.
then what the hell happened to the text was the text only in the japanese version of the game or something.
best final fantasy ever made... I don't think they'll ever make one like it ever again.
I remember this scene.
Like BrutalAI says, anyone who insists they've seen this scene in a normal playthrough has a bad eye for detail or is lying. The regular scene plays out entirely inside the bar, Sephiroth is only mentioned in the flashback (which isn't shown here), and the burning of Nibelheim isn't hinted at. You also aren't confronted by Johnny and his buddies until the next day, and the dialogue is shorter and much different. Also, the PSP version is an emulated version of the original game. No differences.
Oh wait, nevermind. After using the skill, "PAYING ATTENTION" I realized who the conversation was directed to. Makes a lot more sense to what they say to him the next day, indeed.
I remember this as well
@Sarentor You ever seen the Barret/Cloud date scene?
Barret: "Hey, you don't mean...Marlene? NO WAY! Forget it! There ain't no way I'm lettin' a wacko like you anywhere near my little Marlene! She's my baby. My prized possession."
XD
Hey u still Ali e
I did see it like wtf
You know, maybe this scene is only in some of the english release and eventually they removed it.
i forgot how cool this game is
I probably was able to see that scene since I had the french version, hehe. Feels kinda strange to know that it's not in the released US version though.
everyone who says that this IS normal is an idiot. I just started playing this game again for the first time in a few years, just recently got to this part and you CANNOT leave the bar. you CANT. this IS an scene that wasnt able to be seen without codes. Thanks for the video, its cool to know that cloud was really after seph this early in the game, and its also cool to know that tifa knows that cloud knows about the reactor incident. Good stuff.
The Jenova cells create an innate link. Hence the Reunion. Since Sephiroth was birthed with the cells, his integration was pure and more developed. which is why he's such a freak (lol) Hojo took advantage of Cloud after the incident to develop the Soldier Project along with Zack. Zack is also found alive outside of Midgar when you find him in a Retro Rocket Booster saying sound effects.
Its really long time i last saw this game and its reminds me a little to Silver.
i swear i played this scene when i was younger on a pal version of this game, i remember the bit about cloud going to find sephiroth and that guy talking about sake.
From what I remember, some of this conversation takes place in the bar. But as for it being outside, nope, I've never seen them talking outside 7th Heaven.
Don't nobody mess with Barret. He's the Coletrain of FF7!
I wonder what they said in the middle
This makes a lot more sense now. I never quite got why Tifa never seemed surprised that Cloud remembered, only confused about what he remembered. As far as she knew, he wasn't there at all. Once he started telling the story, I guess his conviction in his own memory caused her to question her own, or something, but at least she knew that he was THERE.
Johnny, weren't you the one spying on her?
The Midgar part of the game makes much more sense like this, giving Cloud a motivation to find Sephiroth, and mentioning Nibelheim is nice foreshadowing, too.
I'm playing the game on PC, I think the childhood memory conversation part is in the game, just not in this town so early in the game, but in Nibelheim (not sure). The last part of scolding of the kids is not in my game.
Hey i remember this part, except there werent any blank text boxes, just actual text
WRONG!
The Coma Cloud was in from Nibelheim gave him amnesia. The Sephiroth Cells injected into Cloud caused Cloud to ABSORB Zack's memories. He also later absorbed Tifa's memories when they met again after Zack's death. Cloud combined the two memories to figure out who he was. It's also why Cloud knew a lot of things he wasn't supposed to which caused Tifa to freak out.
During the game when that voice speaks to Cloud, it's his sub-conscious trying to get his mind back on track.
Keeping this might have cleared up the story line a bit...