In Praise of Praise: Sheldrake-Vernon Dialogue 78

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  • Опубликовано: 25 дек 2024

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  • @johnkraner2892
    @johnkraner2892 Год назад +1

    My gratitude overflows for you, Doctors Sheldrake and Vernon, for the generous sharing of your in-depth insights. You are a great comfort and are voices of sanity in this turbulent, dark time.

  • @anthonymccarthy4164
    @anthonymccarthy4164 Год назад +6

    God doesn't need our prayer we need it and God wants us to have what we can get from it. My first prayer in the morning is "Love God" my second one my late mother gave me, "You should be good to each other." It took me a while to realize those covered the two great Commandments.

  • @josephszot5545
    @josephszot5545 7 месяцев назад

    You thank GOD for the opportunity of being alive and consciousness to live right and qualify for eternal love and total knowledge!

  • @michelleburkholder2547
    @michelleburkholder2547 Год назад +4

    A wellspring that rises up to heaven, so you will never thirst again.

  • @swordczar6096
    @swordczar6096 Год назад +1

    This is highest gold.
    My gratitude is, too.
    Thank you.

  • @christianrokicki
    @christianrokicki Год назад +8

    God doesn't demand praise but he does get very excited when we do it and when we feel his excitement it helps to guide us. Naturally we want to offer praise when we make intense spiritual progress.

    • @justohayes
      @justohayes Год назад

      I have been thinking that God would like to see us having gratitude rather than praise. In Leonard Cohen's song hallelujah, if you replace the word hallelujah with the words thank you it makes more sense to me.

    • @ZenithBeyond
      @ZenithBeyond Год назад

      Can you give an example of this kind of excitement. In which situations can it be experienced and how we know it is from God?

    • @Corteum
      @Corteum Год назад

      _"God doesn't demand praise but he does get very excited when we do it"_
      Is that what it says in the book, is it a belief or interpretation, or is there some other way by which you're able to know that God gets excited about it?

    • @christianrokicki
      @christianrokicki Год назад

      @@Corteum He touches us as much as he pleases. Let it be known there is no such thing as a book when we are in our happy place says his electricity. And yet it leaps from every page of life!
      Praise him with me, if you will, in your own way.

    • @Corteum
      @Corteum Год назад +1

      @@christianrokicki I dont know what to do, though. I dont even know how to address such a being... how to even conceive it. And my mind wonders why such a being would need my praise. My puny praise.

  • @sharma6186
    @sharma6186 Год назад +3

    How could one not find gratitude for the ability to exist in and observe even a fraction of this majestic experience.
    Thank you both. Take care.

  • @99r__1
    @99r__1 Год назад +5

    I found this an exceptionally engaging & insightful discussion - possibly my favourite so far. I'm very appreciative.

  • @WildAntics13
    @WildAntics13 Год назад +2

    We are created to worship and give glory to God and have intimate relationships with him.

  • @ChorltonBrook
    @ChorltonBrook Год назад +1

    These are so ‘valuable’ to share to anyone not subscribed but interested the subject: concise. Thanks again for making the effort uploading these. Sometimes I think you might not see how much it’s appreciated out here.

  • @jasonwilcox6637
    @jasonwilcox6637 Год назад +1

    The universe loves you

  • @AuroCords
    @AuroCords Год назад +6

    Loving this! Thank you both so much.
    I appreciate you :]
    That view of god creating through praise or his praise becoming the creation is beautiful to me ❤

  • @christianrokicki
    @christianrokicki Год назад +2

    The excitement of God ignites the fire of passion in us.

  • @stellapap2087
    @stellapap2087 Год назад +1

    My respect and love Mr.Rupert

  • @patriciachadwick5658
    @patriciachadwick5658 Год назад +1

    A tad late to the party, for which I apologise... thank you both for a very enlightening discussion... very much appreciated 🙏

  • @brambler1902
    @brambler1902 Год назад +1

    Thank you both. Amazing that this very concept has baffled me for a long time myself until I stumbled upon its root meaning in Arabic. While reading the Qur'an, I realised that the word سبح meant "to swim,"roll onwards,"perform a daily course," "occupation in worldly affairs." This very word's further derivatives mean "to praise." Which, to me, suggests that if I am "swimming" my day to day life while being mindful of God and remaining STRICTLY within His stated boundaries, then I am ultimately praising Him with my acts [so I am not just a reader of the Qur'an but I become the living Qur'an]. This definition is a different angle of the prevailing norm of rosaries, and "counting" the praise as it is habitually done. Although reading David's Psalms [may peace be upon him] gives immense respite to my heart. But for me, this root meaning logically solves the puzzle as to why there is so much corruption in day to day affairs in the world when the mosques are full. Probably because people separate "worship" and "praising" God from "living" life. "Worship" عبد another word in Arabic which does not mean to do some "worship" acts [which several translations of the Scriptures imply] but TO ADORE AND BE GOD'S SLAVE. The latter is not a boring habit but becomes a feverish high.
    God knows best.
    God bless and sabbath salam.

    • @CAM-fq8lv
      @CAM-fq8lv Год назад

      Thanks for posting this. Insightful, even profound.

  • @ELIASGTR
    @ELIASGTR Год назад

    Hey Rupert I discovered you through your discussions with J Krishnamurti . Im also watching you to imitate your accent. Love your insight !

  • @gammaraygem
    @gammaraygem Год назад +4

    "It is impossible to insult the Divine". (Sri Aurobindo).
    Imagine that.

  • @anthonyrussano
    @anthonyrussano Год назад

    it's about negating ourselves and raising God up

  • @CaptainPhilosophical
    @CaptainPhilosophical Год назад +1

    Speaking in duality reinforces this demanding Narcissist idea. It seems, to me, our judgments of God, from a duality POV, are projections of our own psyche. Attempts to see this from a nondual view encourages me to see ALL as manifestations of the One which brings up a feeling more like excitement for me.

  • @davidpeet3863
    @davidpeet3863 11 месяцев назад

    I think one’s presence is authored by one’s inner stance. the rubicon we cross is when we begin to trust that the world changes according to how we choose to look upon it - despite the appearances. The rather threadbare, utilitarian, consensus understanding is that you get to know something or someone then decide whether or not you love it. You determine what you think of it - basically you judge it some good, some bad.
    A higher wisdom realises that first you love something and then you know it. The extent to which it opens up to you, which at its fullest will be infinite and divine, is the extent to which your inner condition is in shape. This cannon be tricked, there is no hack.
    Imagine you are God, and you look upon something as God? What do you think might happen ?
    Imagine you are unconditional love and you look upon someone? It changes you to do this. It transforms you to do this. The giver receives. It’s outrageous, unreasonable, arrogant, self-aggrandising and presumptuous - it feels this way precisely because it is you defining yourself as MORE.
    We do not really appreciate the super-power we all have - our attention. It is a transfiguring yet gentle power. But for most of us it is dissipated. Our attention can be splattered in the past and in the future and in daily anxieties. There is little left for anything else. If we appreciate the value of our attention and over time become a master of the deployment of our attention - this is when we can more easily appreciate that the way we choose to see the world determines how the world chooses to respond to us.
    This means seeing everything as infinite.
    Infinity is a state of grace - and to see the infinite outside you, you must experience the infinite within.

  • @TylerClibbon
    @TylerClibbon Год назад +4

    I love these talks but I just have to keep saying: what the world desperately needs most during the covid caused collapse of mainstream scientific consensus is Rupert's work on psi to blow up and go viral. The only way to do this is to go on super popular podcasts, as many as you can.

    • @TylerClibbon
      @TylerClibbon Год назад +1

      Honestly no offense but I'm going to stop watching these; the world doesn't need more word games passively defending religion, it needs solid scientific statistical proofs showing the magic religion is based on is actually real. Please do debates again, you are SO good at it.

    • @AlexisOmnis
      @AlexisOmnis Год назад +1

      ​@@TylerClibbon hello! I posted a new comment thread on this video & I thought it may be of interest. It's only anecdotal so far but the spiritual nature of the universe will soon be testable. Some particles of soulmates are entangled & this is how telepathy works but can even work between non soulmates. I'm telling you this as my soulmate and I can talk telepathically with each other & will hopefully be able to prove this, sometime this year.

    • @TylerClibbon
      @TylerClibbon Год назад

      @@AlexisOmnis I believe it! Please prove it as fast as possible!

  • @jamesmanolakis2420
    @jamesmanolakis2420 Год назад

    Who doesn't love being praised?

  • @Corteum
    @Corteum Год назад +1

    Which God needs praise? There are many descriptions of God coming from different cultures/traditions...

  • @161157gor
    @161157gor Год назад +2

    AI for Prophets not Profits… In Praise of Prayer 🙏

  • @guillermobrand8458
    @guillermobrand8458 Год назад +2

    Information abounds in Morphic Fields. The ability to store and manage information differentiates inanimate matter from living matter. Observing how humanity's ability to manage information has increased in the last hundred years, Ray Kurszweil concludes that in 2045 humanity will access a Singularity. The exponential curve that Kursweil "stumbles upon" is not only a hundred years old.
    About two hundred thousand years ago humans became the Evolutionary Leaders. Then, thanks to the language that characterizes us, Reason arose.
    When observing the dynamics of Evolution considering the role that Information plays and has played since the Universe arose, it becomes clear that the "exponential evolution" that Ray Kurszweil appeals to to make his projections does not refer to the current "era of Information”, but that said exponential evolution dates from the origin of the Universe, which is evident if we consider the following “evolutionary milestones”.
    The universe arises: 13,700,000,000 years
    Life emerges: 3,800,000,000 years
    The brain emerges: 550,000,000 years
    Language Arises: 23,000,000 years
    Being and Reason arise: 200,000 years
    The information age emerges: 150 years
    The Singularity Rises: Year 2045
    The figures indicate a decrease in the time between successive evolutionary milestones, which is equivalent to an increase in the speed of evolution. We can determine this "speed" if we look at the relationship in which the decrease in time between evolutionary milestones varies. In doing so we obtain the following “velocities”:
    3.0
    6.2
    23.1
    114.1
    1332.3
    The logarithm of these speeds gives us the following figures:
    0.48
    0.79
    1.36
    2.06
    3.12
    When graphing these figures, a “surprisingly coherent” curve is left before our eyes.
    The numbers don't lie; The information age that we are living in is the prelude to a Singularity in which humans will cease to be the Evolutionary Leaders that we were for two hundred thousand years.

  • @sort_to_see_hidden_comments
    @sort_to_see_hidden_comments Год назад +1

    I have an interesting idea, we use to think all the beings in our dream are generated by our mind, but what if most if not all of them are not generated by our mind but rather perceived by our mind by telepathy.
    I speculate that these beings, are mostly other people that dreaming at the same time we dream, meaning some appear in other dreams.
    If this is true, we can test and verify it, by doing a world wide survey about people and conversation they recall from their dreams.

  • @sort_to_see_hidden_comments
    @sort_to_see_hidden_comments Год назад +2

    I have another interesting Idea, I think babies learn languages fast because they have telepathic ability, and this ability is higher between the family relatives of the babies, and highest between the mother and her babies.
    And the higher the amount of brow or stem cells in babies may play a role here, because the receptors are more neutral in these cells, and as a result, accept wider range of magnetic frequencies.
    Telepathy between an Identical twins is because they have almost an identical receptors.

  • @stewartbrands
    @stewartbrands Год назад +1

    People realized and realize that human perception is part of everything that is and everything that is, is named so called "God".
    Therefore it is not surprising that having a name for everything ,stories arose to describe this name and associate them with the label which was put on everything.
    So the stories and emotions having reference to this name for everything are locally limited illusions or fantasies. Stories.
    Their function is to act as an element of tribal connectivity in a sociological sense. Hydrogen bonding in chemistry/physics would be an example.
    Stories amongst people have little to do with everything and are a sociological glue within some of the human domain only.
    It is not possible to slow a river with mind,faith,or praise since their function is exclusively a shared intellectual process related to tribal security and not general fundamental processes.

  • @rodgersmith-iu1yb
    @rodgersmith-iu1yb Год назад

    How can I connect with Dr Sheldrake? Developing a study re morphic resonance?

  • @Demosophist
    @Demosophist Год назад

    We humans have it pretty good, actually. There are lots of things to be interested in, and failing that there's always the problem of survival. Never a dull moment. But think of how bored you'd be if you were God. You'd already know everything, be absolutely certain of ongoing survival FOREVER, and there would be nothing you couldn't do. YAWN... what's next?

  • @marcietownsend3635
    @marcietownsend3635 Год назад

    Question: does anyone think "god" exists outside of our belief in said deity or deities? What if "god" is an overarching ideology that holds reality in place and we can choose how we create the "gods"? We can choose between AI or seeing ourselves as cosmic intelligence on our blue spinning planet. It's up to us.

  • @hiltz0007
    @hiltz0007 Год назад

    DOES GOD EVEN REQUIRE RECOGNITION?

  • @googleaccountuser3116
    @googleaccountuser3116 10 месяцев назад

    When you said throwing stones at dinosaurs you were thinking of the flinstones weren't you? Admit it! 😅
    Based on a true story. 😁

  • @jroses1225
    @jroses1225 Год назад

    I haven't watched yet, but God isn't a human. Doesn't have an ego to praise. God is existence. It is us. We need praise, from ourselves - perhaps to know we're God. So I'd say that yes God needs praise, through us, but only for our sake.

    • @mateokarlvonpavlovic8295
      @mateokarlvonpavlovic8295 Год назад

      We arent gods, human are egoistic and we arent perfect like our creator.

    • @jroses1225
      @jroses1225 Год назад

      @@mateokarlvonpavlovic8295 we aren't Gods but we are God. Because there is only God. Our egos are just temporary

    • @mateokarlvonpavlovic8295
      @mateokarlvonpavlovic8295 Год назад +1

      @@jroses1225 well i would agree that we are part of God, but i dont agree that we are God. We are part of him when we are in heaven with him.

  • @jamesconway9277
    @jamesconway9277 8 месяцев назад

    Red was positive in the past until Dante Inferno made it identified as demonic. That suggests that blue was cold as ice or not hot with the Spirit. Nobody would then in the past want to identify the sky or water as negative.

  • @ChorltonBrook
    @ChorltonBrook Год назад

    Mark please stake a Twitter account under your name. The only guy with it is a paranormal investigator going on about spooks. Seems unlike you? You seems the type of person I’d want to listen to, along with Rupert of course. I want to add a more spiritual/sussed input to my head. Thanks & sorry for my attempt at this social media stuff.

  • @earthstick
    @earthstick Год назад +1

    One thing for sure is that God requires praise, because otherwise God disappears from our lives. Nobody worships the Gods Of Egypt or Greece or Rome anymore, or the Norse Gods. Those Gods are dead.

    • @matthewgriffiths527
      @matthewgriffiths527 Год назад +1

      Those weren't God's. The great I Am is the one and only.
      People do still worship entities that have "disappeared" from our modern form of daily life. Those that want to know seek such things out, those that want to stay ignorant do not.

  • @ChorltonBrook
    @ChorltonBrook Год назад

    Lapis Lazuli - the only mines in the world are inAfghanistan & even in the 1990‘s it was worth it’s weight in gold. Now China industrially mines it there. Very, very cheap on Ali Express. Probably not for long, in the long term. Just sayin’

  • @jameshowell450
    @jameshowell450 Год назад

    What annoys me is people only say God. But who is he? Well hes Krsna. Why don't people recognise this? They stop at the impersonal brahman stage. God is real. Bhagavan. Haribol.

  • @musicsubicandcebu1774
    @musicsubicandcebu1774 Год назад +5

    Worship and praise of a higher power? All very suspicious. "Stockholm Syndrome" will explain it quite nicely . . . we worship what we fear.

    • @eliyasara9786
      @eliyasara9786 Год назад +3

      I'm not so sure about that. One thing is for certain and that is that we fear what we fear. However I think we worship what we believe holds any form of power in our life. For example Saints, while not particularly feared, are semi-worshiped within Catholicism, with prayers being directed around them and centred on them in relation to the Trinity. In Hinduism there are a multitude of gods, some entirely benevolent and some not as much, who are all worshiped globally. Some people worship money, especially people who already HAVE a lot of money. I don't think you'll find anyone who says that these people genuinely fear and are terrified of money, it's just that they have a complex associated with the luxuries of wealth and the changes these things can make within ones life, thus they put mental energy into the complete and total accumulation of it. Stockholm sydnrome is slightly different I would say. It didn't demonstrate a 'worship', but rather an unexpected flipping of emotional states. Where one would assume fear for a captor, instead the victims demonstrated love and care.
      Universally, Christians fear the Devil. However Christians don't doctrinally worship the devil. Instead, going along with my thesis, they worship what they believe holds ultimate power over their life; God.

    • @gammaraygem
      @gammaraygem Год назад +1

      @@eliyasara9786 What about the Ukrainian conscript in a trench, who just lost 5 buddies in a mortar attack while bleeding to death himself....Praise the Lord? Hmmm...
      A Hindu would have no problem with that. Good and evil are all Divine actions.

    • @thegodpill914
      @thegodpill914 Год назад +2

      Are you incapable of comprehending gratitude? Even if one had the most negative opinion possible of god that would do nothing to change that everything pleasant that exist and occurs in the omniverse is a result of the first cause. What are you expecting God to apologize to you for you not being equally omnipotent and eternal or something? My goodness what a world we live in.

  • @gammaraygem
    @gammaraygem Год назад +1

    This is disappointing.
    What about the Ukrainian conscript in a trench, who just lost 5 buddies in a mortar attack while bleeding to death himself....Praise the Lord? Hmmm...Or the Russian who was told he´d only do logistic work who finds himself in an assault team heading for almost certain death, while being shot by his own if he tries to return to safety?
    A Hindu would have no problem with that. Good and evil are all Divine actions. One of their central teachings, the Gita, takes place on a battlefield. Looking LIFE in the face, head on.
    Who said we need to praise anyway? Jesus? I doubt it. I dont know much about the bible, but this convo is just not up to standard.

    • @1111Tactical
      @1111Tactical Год назад

      You don't know much about the bible but you know this biblical discussion is not up to standard? How?
      Wars are the result of egos from disunified leaders operating out of self interest and hatred.
      That can hardly be levied onto God, his unifying presence, or his natural world
      Do you think if those soldiers were grateful for each moment they continue to live and keep a positive mindset, they would have worse odds or better odds?
      I've gotten military training, positive mindset is key. The answer is that in the face of overwhelming evidence, gratitude is EVEN MORE beneficial

  • @barleyarrish
    @barleyarrish Год назад

    No. People Do!

  • @jan-martinulvag1962
    @jan-martinulvag1962 Год назад +1

    Consciousness is the domain of the ego. You are stuck in ego. Lost.

  • @roderickcortez138
    @roderickcortez138 Год назад

    Well I just lost all respect for Rupert.

  • @googlepigs7027
    @googlepigs7027 Год назад +1

    I really think the "Divine narcissist"
    says it all when it comes to the
    historic coception of bible "God".
    The idea that there's a divine
    being in itself, it seems to me,
    is such an obvious and mostly
    unpleasant creation of the
    primitive human mind; and is
    much more a reflection of our
    primitive selves, than any supposed
    being of omnipotent authorship.
    That said...my 63yrs. of intuitive
    experience, tells me there are
    fantastic things far beyond the
    stuffy, stingy pronouncements of
    our nascent science. I believe we
    are some kind of eternal "energy
    beings", on a never ending quest
    to experience, learn, and improve
    and enjoy ourselves, and each
    other; and our fantastic, yet to be
    descovered, never ending
    Universe; and all the wonders it
    contains, waiting to be found out.
    I also believe there are beings
    in this existence, so far beyond
    us in their evolution and development,
    that to us... they
    are Gods. We dont get to see
    them though....because it would
    ruin our present mission that this
    place is specifically designed
    for: experiencing and learning.