This could be my favourite CW to date. They keep getting better and growing exponentially. But as I have a Tudor FXD, sadly can’t see it in my collection. However, I really like what they are doing, pushing boundaries and at a price that’s much more attainable. Nice one Adrian, and well done Christopher Ward 👏
My watch was purchased 2 years ago from MAMACOO and, to this day, it still looks and runs as well as it did the day it arrived. That movement has never missed a beat despite never having been serviced. I can't complain about that.
I learned long time ago if you have your eye on a particular watch you're not going to be satisfied with the second best, no matter how well-made the watch is.
Exactly watches are an emotional piece of jewellery and not just a spec sheet. I personally need a connection with a brand and if im spending over 1k I want that brand to have a full service centre / AD network and boutique to try things on and a place that can rectify any problems I may have or offer me deals on other things for being a valued customer. For me micro brands no matter how good don’t speak me to me. I do however hope CW keep doing great things and turn into a big brand
Definitely don’t buy a CW or Tudor if you want a sub. But this is a really cool watch. I’d rather have this and $10k than a sub. But then again I want a GO seaq so clearly I’m not that guy.
Agree with you, but money is also an important obstacle, I really see myself buying this watch instead of the pelagos tbh, I already did the same with an omega seamaster blue (year 1998), I went for the Mido Ocean Star 200c and I am happy with it
@randys766 I like what you’re saying. The GO seaq looks more beautiful in person than the submariner. I would even buy an aftermarket case back to see the movement on the smaller one.
The helium escape valve is irrelevant to anyone just scuba diving. It’s intended for saturation divers who spend weeks in a high pressure chamber between dives to avoid the need to decompress. To prevent the risk of nitrogen narcosis the divers breath a mix of air where the nitrogen is replaced by helium. This helium is what the escape valve is intended to deal with and so prevent the build up of gas blowing the glass of the watch out during the assent decompression phase. Something like at anyway!
And you can open the stem to let out He anyway; you’ll be in a dry environment as the chamber decompresses gradually. So really the escape valve is an affectation.
Adrian, regarding Helium and the famous escape valve, it is used by professional divers that are working under saturation in a diving turret, like in an oil rig. They are breathing a gas mix with Helium and that’s why Helium can go inside the watch. Indeed, a very few are in the situation to use an helium escape valve….for the common watch lover it’s more like the extra exhaust that you have on your sport car.
Yeah, even proffessional scuba divers would never be able to use the helium escape valve. Even if someone does saturation diving, they probably use an electronic diving computer that is much more useful, not a mechanical watch.
@@mateuszpluta922we don't use computers, we are tethered to the dive bell by a dive umbilical. If we need to know the time we ask our supervisor......and our supervisor tells us to f*$k off.
Damn, you killed it with the production and editing of this video! Everything was tight and not a wasted second. I paused and replayed only to see the shot with all the watch colors. Well done!
Picked up a MAMACOO's watch as my first watch last month and I’m absolutely in love with it. Perfect size, looks elegant, very comfortable. Now my only problem is holding off from buying more watches so quickly!
I think Christopher Ward continue to demonstrate how much value can be achieved in the more "budget" end of the pool. This watch is brilliant. In many ways it out competes the other three you mentioned, with the Aquaracer GMT being nice on the GMT front, but lacking a certain clarity of purpose. I have a Trident Elite 1000. I love that watch to bits. It is an incredible value proposition. And I think that the Lumiere takes that foundation of titanium work, and combines it deftly with the lume technology they tried out with the C60 Concept years ago. The choice for a more understated colour way also serves it well. It's clean, effective, and well made at price. I don't know what more you can reasonably ask.
Absolutely love this watch. Love the three hand only/no date approach. Love that it is 41mm and thin. The 3D love, logo and hands are great. I did not think that I was in the market for another watch, but maybe I am...
I have owned two CW. For the price, they are excellent value for money. But I never felt that I ever wanted to keep mine. But I’m always looking out for their next release.
I like it. For me the Pelagos 39 is a modern interpretation of the no date submariner and this CW is a modern take on the Pelagos in a way. I own a P39, I love it, it’s the perfect size and I love that the bezel sounds exactly like you’re cracking a safe. I’d never sell it. But I really like this CW I think it looks great.
It is probably one of the best value for money watches out there! The only thing for me is that I like smaller watches. 41 mm, 48 lug to lug is not large by any means but I am hoping they release a 39 mm, 45-46 lug to lug version! I'd be happy to be the first buyer of that watch
Hi Adrian This is what we are used to with C/W now. Not many other watch makers out there that are being put against Tudor and half the price. I'm so glad my collection is made of C/W and nothing else.😊
Your watch would only absorb helium in a dry pressurised mixed gas atmosphere where helium is present such as a Diving Bell or Decompression Chamber. If you’re not a Saturation Diver, a Helium Escape Valve is totally irrelevant and may even be another point of potential failure.
I’ve had Christopher Ward 1000 elite COSC in titanium for just over two years now. Keeps very good time, very comfortable to wear and I love it. I think it cost me just under £1400. I had a Rolex Submariner but in my social circle nearly everyone had one so it went to be replaced by a Zenith Rainbow “Daytona” chronograph which I still have for smarter occasions .
This is a really big moment for Christopher ward. here we have something that goes up to the quality of MONTA and it’s not a niche watch. the markers are slightly questionable, but this clearly looks very good watch for the money.
Finally a modern design with tight looking hands, nice materials, decent movement, and splendid height. This is the first Christopher Ward i can unequivocally get behind. Nice. Thanks for this video. That said, a Seiko SJE099 is my diver's watch. They are a refined alternative to every alternative you mentioned. Picked one up, rendered all my other diver's watches moot, so I got rid of them all. Funnily enough this C Ward is a nice alternative to that Seiko.
Love the gradient dial and texture. Most of all, the high contrast hands and markers. My eyes aren't that sharp anymore, and I love a watch that is easy to read at a glance.
Got my first CW just a couple weeks ago (a C63 GMT in 36mm) and I am absolutely in love! Everything about it is just awesome. I totally recommend the brand! They've done a fantastic job recently and with this new Titanium Diver they continue that! This watch in 36-38mm would get me thinking again. 😅
Thank you for the explanation on the grades of titanium and the helium escape valve. I bought a Christopher Ward C60 Sapphire Orange watch, which has been discontinued, and it has a whopping 600m of water resistance, and I paid below $2000.00 for it. It also has a surprisingly thin case. There is a reason why Christopher Ward watches have become so popular. They afford the person with modest means the ability to experience luxury.
@@alphacause Helium doesn’t get “pushed out” of the case of a watch on a deep dive. (They’re under water.) It gets into the case of the watch when the divers are in a dry diving bell environment that mixes oxygen and helium, rather than nitrogen/oxygen. Since compressed helium molecules are so small, they slip through the gasket, into the case. When the bell is being brought back to surface pressure is when the helium expanding (volume increases as pressure decreases) pops off the crystals on some watches. Many watches can go far deeper now without an escape valve. But that wasn’t always the true. The dive is immaterial. It’s the dry environment that creates this scenario.
This watch looks like the start of the anticipated upward move from Ward into Tudor territory. They have already put out some really interesting distinctive affordable models so far.
Great video, very accurate analysis. In my 4.5 years in the game as a watch collector and enthusiast, I collected a lot from MAMACOO I was thinking I was able to get a blue SD but I'm not vip enough, but I'm not giving up. Hehe. Great video.
Saw the email from CW this morning, immediately loved the design of the watch, especially the orange but they're all nice. The hour markers and hands look kinda edible.
I’m a CW owner (C63 Sealander GMT) so I follow the brand’s progress. This got my attention for sure. Pelagos killer? No probably not but the cork sniffing snobbery is quite funny to behold.
Christopher ward are great at doing a homage but adding slightly different stuff, in a way that works - this and the white dial Sealander GMT are the best examples of this imo. You know what they’re referencing but the value and good design allow them to get away with it with cred intact. I’ve got a black 42mm Pelagos but I would guess this would give you 95% of that for 50% of the price
Really good looking watch. I'd take it over the Pelagos and any of the alternatives you mentioned. CW is one of the few watch companies innovating in an affordable, client-centric way...and I really like their willingness to connect with customers. Adrian, next time show us a good lume shot please and test how long it lasts.
2:05 - I'm sure others have pointed it out already, in your comparison between the slimness of a SW300 (3.6mm thick) and the SW200 (4.6mm thick) the watch you used for comparison was the CW C63 GMT, which actually uses the SW330-2 (4.1mm thick) which is just a SW300 with a callers gmt complication on it.
If I were to pull the trigger on a dive watch, or a CW, both of which I was on the edge about for a long time, this would be it. Black, black and orange rubber, beautiful.
a very very big Pro for me to this new CW is that it has no date. All other alternatives all have the bloody date window which is so much against my tastes. Big win for CW
This is a very nice watch. I would like to see them make a 39 mm version to compete directly with the Pelagos 39. With that said, I would still pick my Pelagos: 1) 70 hr. power reserve 2) consistent time keeping regardless of position 3) T-fit clasp with more adjustment slots 4) built-in diver's extension 5) Tudor legacy and cache 6) 5 year warranty 7) potentially 10 year service intervals. Speaking of the new clasp though, I hope CW would address Nodus' claim that it was copied directly from NodeX.
My daily watch is an Omega Seamaster Planet Ocean 600m. It's a beast of a watch but on my wrist it works and I love it. That said, for somewhere around 30-50% of replacement cost, I could get this C60 in titanium vs steel, super super cool lumed indicies and markers, and with a display caseback, that's 3-4mm thinner than the Omega. Honestly, it's not nothing, but I'm tempted to just buy one because its cool and won't break the bank (knock on wood), so enjoyment for the dollar seems pretty damn high.
Totally impressed, the new Favre Leuba is about the same price mind..... Now they're the oldest watch company in the world......I think people don't realise that escape valves only work in diving bells, not actually underwater.
Great video! It's a killer watch at that price. I do have questions with CW going further and further upmarket with their releases, but this is a spec monster that might even be worth it at an even higher price point. A small note from 2:07 - the Sealander has 150m of water resistance, meaning the new trident has twice the WR, not "over three times the water resistance".
for sure its stepping into Pelagos terroir, in he end is all about the end user needs and desires. I have my U1-T SDR. All I can say its my tool watch, do it all, everyday watch and I love it. great watch from CW, they never disappoint, they managed to stay ahead of the marketing curve with interesting features, design and pricing.
I’m not sure if I like the printed lume, but a very nice watch indeed. As alternative I would mention the Sinn U50 instead of the 212. It’s only 11mm tick with a 500m water resistance and in the same price range ( although not in titanium)
I think this piece in grey looks amazing. I’m just worried that the thickness of the lume, especially the triangle at 12, looks a bit comical compared to the sleekness of the titanium and grey dial…
Saw a number of CW watches at the Time and Tide showroom today. Went in expecting to like the C1 Moonphase but didn't - the aventurine dial was a bit too sparkly. Was curious about the Bel Canto Classic and it lived upto the hype - the chime put a smile on my face upon first listen. Went in expecting not to like this was and it ended up being my favourite - I'd take it over most dive watches in the industry. Key takeaway: always have a look at watches in person and on your wrist before buying.
I just bought the 300 Trident pro 40mm (steel with the Sw200)… happy to have the (now) baby brother version for half the price. Plus the blue gloss dial is still my favorite.
That’s a good looking watch , like the grey shade of the titanium with the grey dial and bezel.. I do agree with you regarding the clasp, too long .. apart from that , it’s pretty hard to find fault 👍🏻 well done CW 🇬🇧
I've bought two CW chronometer watches. The first was out of spec upon arrival and returned. The second one fell out of spec after a year of very light wear. I like CW but quality control needs improvement and I hope they see this. Not looking forward to returning it to the UK since I'm in the US. Major hassle.
Such a beautiful piece! What I don't understand is why can't CW have a hardened Grade 2 Ti. It will retain the Gr 2 color and minimize the Gr2 short comings
I totally agree with you on the watch face. Like the matt finish but only if it is one colour throughout. The bracelet reminds me of the Breitling ChronoAvenger which was titanium albeit the later having less taper to the clasp. Your watchstrap really suits the watch.
Nice watch, with a very cool (if unnecessary) addition of those huge lume indices. I think you've nailed the natural comparisons here. The Pelagos is the more premium version, but it really is chunky. It's also priced at the border of where they should really be working in grade 5 rather than grade 2 titanium. Mine definitely scratches easily, albeit over 3-4 years. I'm considering going back to a Submariner, as the chunkiness is getting to be too much. The Sinn U50 is also an interesting, smaller option. Similar concept, but a more polarising and distinct look. Again, the price is higher, but they are offering something interesting too. I'd love to try one out at some point with the tegiment steel.
Damn that is impressive! I own a Tudor Pelagos LHD. Bought it in perfect condition with bracelet and box/papers for $3,000. So I would say the win easily goes to the Pelagos at that price. However at full price the CW is a true contender. Really like the case, love the height, COSC certified but that face design doesn't do anything for me. Christopher Ward is continuing to impresss.
Do you see CW being able to continue to grow and become a household name without ADs and celebrity endorsements ? Just got my first Ti watch. Takes some getting used to, but loving it. (CW 12)
Love CW, they make so many beautiful watches. I actually own 4 different pieces and wear all of them. Strap changes are so easy. No tools are necessary. The only critical point is the antimagnetic movement. But compare to a Omega or even Rolex / Tudor, you get so mutch more watch. 60/60 guarantee is a very good condition. I highly recommend allmost every CW-Watch! Very good Video by the way! - go on Adrian! - love your content! ❤
Great looking watch and effort by CW and great value for money. I am in the camp of thinner is not better on a tool watch. I think there is a range where the watch just looks to thin for the intended purpose. For a dive watch, I prefer 12.5 - 14.5 mm in thickness. I also believe a display case back has no business being on the back of a tool watch. I wish CW would offer the customer the option of a solid case back or display case back. I still think the Pelagos is the real tool watch here in my opinion. Thanks for the review.
I own a Tudor pelagos LHD, bought it because I am left handed. I won’t be rushing out to buy a CW watch the only one I would possibly buy would be a belcanto.
Interesting, we didn’t spend more time talking about the ceramic blend lume markers(?) 🤔 that seems to be CW’s big marketing talking point on this particular model claiming they’ve doubled the lume’s brightness over the previous iteration
Absolutely love this. I bought the C60 Atoll recently and have been wearing it so much - it’s just so much watch for the money. This looks like it takes that up several notches! My Pelagos 39 is looking worried 😂
I think it's a beautiful watch, simple and symmetric. What bothers me is the misalignment between the end of the lugs and the first link of the bracelet (that is attached to the lugs). Another thing about dimensions, Lug width being 22mm I think is a bit larger than what I would like on a 41mm case.
I like the watch, especially in the grey. The fume is subtle on this variant which can't be said for the blue colourway version. Not sure if I'd buy one as I like the recently launched CW GMTs better. In general Grade 2 titanium is a bit more expensive than grade 5. Grade 5 is a common aerospace grade titanium and there is a lot of it on the general market because of that. Grade 2 is less expensive to machine though and this allows more complex cases to be affordable. A lot of smaller brands use Grade 5 but the cases are simpler than that on the Lumiere. It all depends on what you want to achieve with your case design and at what price.
Thought this was a very fair assessment. Super case design. However, ehhh on the plastic looking raised hour markers. While a nice bracelet overall, that B&J strap did enhance the look overall therefore converting it to a great field beater.
Yup another winner for me. Love the lume blocks and the fume dial adds interest. Quite happy with the Sealander so another grand on top doesn’t really make much sense for my needs. Very nice though.
Sick lume and insanely thin for a dive watch. If I wasn’t a shallow a-hole and didn’t care about spending over $1k for a C. Ward, I’d be totally into this thing. As you said… on paper, this is hard to beat. It’s hard to justify spending that much coin in a watch that won’t get you any props of serious watch nerd circles. The only thing I don’t like design wise (visually)is how much drape there is to the bracelet immediately off the lugs. Again though, that feature probably contributes to,this being a comfortable watch to wear ( it sure if you gave your opinion on comfort, though that’s subjective). Thanks for making the video!
Those raised hour markers and logo are amazing, adding lot of dimensionality to the dial! Love it...
I love this….no date, no GMT, no mess on the dial! Beautiful in its simplicity.A pure watch and a ‘thing’ of beauty 😍
I dont mind a 6 oclock date
Meanwhile, a date and gmt hand would make me buy this watch immediately
My thoughts exactly!
@@sys-administrator @jamied931 Definitely. I would buy a watch with a 6 o’clock date too. I just prefer no date 😅
@@lordcharfield I do love a no date look, and the ease of setting it when I pick it up, but sometimes it's nice to know the date!
Can't win!
This could be my favourite CW to date. They keep getting better and growing exponentially. But as I have a Tudor FXD, sadly can’t see it in my collection. However, I really like what they are doing, pushing boundaries and at a price that’s much more attainable.
Nice one Adrian, and well done Christopher Ward 👏
In the same position as you. If I didn’t have my FXD, this would be a serious contender.
Brother any Tudor Fxd alternatives under 2000$
The simplicity of that dial and handset is refreshing.
10.85mm thick. Hey Omega, are you watching!
No, we’re pretty busy cashing our moonwatch checks but thanks for asking
Perhaps the co axial makes it difficult?
@@joewhite6875😂SOO TRUE
@@carlkim2577 Nope, the co axial adds negligible thickness and doesn't affect the case at all. Omega just decides to make thicker cases
Please also tag Grand Seiko
My watch was purchased 2 years ago from MAMACOO and, to this day, it still looks and runs as well as it did the day it arrived. That movement has never missed a beat despite never having been serviced. I can't complain about that.
I learned long time ago if you have your eye on a particular watch you're not going to be satisfied with the second best, no matter how well-made the watch is.
Exactly watches are an emotional piece of jewellery and not just a spec sheet. I personally need a connection with a brand and if im spending over 1k I want that brand to have a full service centre / AD network and boutique to try things on and a place that can rectify any problems I may have or offer me deals on other things for being a valued customer. For me micro brands no matter how good don’t speak me to me. I do however hope CW keep doing great things and turn into a big brand
Definitely don’t buy a CW or Tudor if you want a sub. But this is a really cool watch. I’d rather have this and $10k than a sub. But then again I want a GO seaq so clearly I’m not that guy.
Totally agree, buy with your heart not your head.
Boring old head says "why do I need a watch when my phone tells the time?" anyway.... 😂
Agree with you, but money is also an important obstacle, I really see myself buying this watch instead of the pelagos tbh, I already did the same with an omega seamaster blue (year 1998), I went for the Mido Ocean Star 200c and I am happy with it
@randys766 I like what you’re saying. The GO seaq looks more beautiful in person than the submariner. I would even buy an aftermarket case back to see the movement on the smaller one.
Been looking for a dive watch (design purposes only) and I can’t believe that this CW just made the top of the list. Wasn’t expecting that.
The helium escape valve is irrelevant to anyone just scuba diving. It’s intended for saturation divers who spend weeks in a high pressure chamber between dives to avoid the need to decompress. To prevent the risk of nitrogen narcosis the divers breath a mix of air where the nitrogen is replaced by helium. This helium is what the escape valve is intended to deal with and so prevent the build up of gas blowing the glass of the watch out during the assent decompression phase. Something like at anyway!
HELIOX 98:2 ;)
That's ok, it's streamlined unlike the omega wart.
Baby's got the bends....
So not irrelevant to watch guys lol 😉
And you can open the stem to let out He anyway; you’ll be in a dry environment as the chamber decompresses gradually. So really the escape valve is an affectation.
Adrian, regarding Helium and the famous escape valve, it is used by professional divers that are working under saturation in a diving turret, like in an oil rig. They are breathing a gas mix with Helium and that’s why Helium can go inside the watch. Indeed, a very few are in the situation to use an helium escape valve….for the common watch lover it’s more like the extra exhaust that you have on your sport car.
I think he literally said that
No professional would use a mechanical watch. Perhaps scuba divers.
Yeah, even proffessional scuba divers would never be able to use the helium escape valve. Even if someone does saturation diving, they probably use an electronic diving computer that is much more useful, not a mechanical watch.
@@Mauipetewe do use mechanical watches, but phones work just aswell.
@@mateuszpluta922we don't use computers, we are tethered to the dive bell by a dive umbilical. If we need to know the time we ask our supervisor......and our supervisor tells us to f*$k off.
Damn, you killed it with the production and editing of this video! Everything was tight and not a wasted second. I paused and replayed only to see the shot with all the watch colors. Well done!
Picked up a MAMACOO's watch as my first watch last month and I’m absolutely in love with it. Perfect size, looks elegant, very comfortable. Now my only problem is holding off from buying more watches so quickly!
I think Christopher Ward continue to demonstrate how much value can be achieved in the more "budget" end of the pool. This watch is brilliant. In many ways it out competes the other three you mentioned, with the Aquaracer GMT being nice on the GMT front, but lacking a certain clarity of purpose.
I have a Trident Elite 1000. I love that watch to bits. It is an incredible value proposition. And I think that the Lumiere takes that foundation of titanium work, and combines it deftly with the lume technology they tried out with the C60 Concept years ago. The choice for a more understated colour way also serves it well.
It's clean, effective, and well made at price. I don't know what more you can reasonably ask.
Beautiful piece! I absolutely love it. And I actually do think it is a Pelagos killer. Terrific pick, this is 🤩
Absolutely love this watch. Love the three hand only/no date approach. Love that it is 41mm and thin.
The 3D love, logo and hands are great.
I did not think that I was in the market for another watch, but maybe I am...
I have owned two CW. For the price, they are excellent value for money. But I never felt that I ever wanted to keep mine. But I’m always looking out for their next release.
I like it. For me the Pelagos 39 is a modern interpretation of the no date submariner and this CW is a modern take on the Pelagos in a way. I own a P39, I love it, it’s the perfect size and I love that the bezel sounds exactly like you’re cracking a safe. I’d never sell it. But I really like this CW I think it looks great.
It is probably one of the best value for money watches out there! The only thing for me is that I like smaller watches. 41 mm, 48 lug to lug is not large by any means but I am hoping they release a 39 mm, 45-46 lug to lug version! I'd be happy to be the first buyer of that watch
Hi Adrian
This is what we are used to with C/W now. Not many other watch makers out there that are being put against Tudor and half the price. I'm so glad my collection is made of C/W and nothing else.😊
Your watch would only absorb helium in a dry pressurised mixed gas atmosphere where helium is present such as a Diving Bell or Decompression Chamber. If you’re not a Saturation Diver, a Helium Escape Valve is totally irrelevant and may even be another point of potential failure.
Absolutely true. I have a Certina Super PH 500 and there is no helium valve, plus it Is cheaper than the CW or Tudor!
Would office work fall into that category?
@@LimitedWarddefinitely, you never know when you need to decompress after a day in corporate life.
Sometimes at work I am under so much pressure I can feel the helium seeping into my watch.
Agree. Nice watch for the money. Prefer the Sinn though.
I’m trying not to like this watch, because I don’t need a 3rd Trident in my collection. So far, I’m not succeeding. Great video as always, Adrian.
I’ve had Christopher Ward 1000 elite COSC in titanium for just over two years now. Keeps very good time, very comfortable to wear and I love it. I think it cost me just under £1400. I had a Rolex Submariner but in my social circle nearly everyone had one so it went to be replaced by a Zenith Rainbow “Daytona” chronograph which I still have for smarter occasions
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This is a really big moment for Christopher ward. here we have something that goes up to the quality of MONTA and it’s not a niche watch. the markers are slightly questionable, but this clearly looks very good watch for the money.
I love that there is no date. This watch is on my wishlist.
Finally a modern design with tight looking hands, nice materials, decent movement, and splendid height. This is the first Christopher Ward i can unequivocally get behind. Nice. Thanks for this video.
That said, a Seiko SJE099 is my diver's watch. They are a refined alternative to every alternative you mentioned. Picked one up, rendered all my other diver's watches moot, so I got rid of them all.
Funnily enough this C Ward is a nice alternative to that Seiko.
Love the gradient dial and texture. Most of all, the high contrast hands and markers. My eyes aren't that sharp anymore, and I love a watch that is easy to read at a glance.
I love this, I want one……. The only problem is I have a pelagos 39 already, shame because it looks amazing! Great vid Adrian 👌
Beautiful watch. Thanks for the introduction. “Chrisopher Ward” at 1:25 is missing a “t”. Trivial but thought you should know.
Love CW watches and don’t regret any of my purchases! A great deal and high quality
Got my first CW just a couple weeks ago (a C63 GMT in 36mm) and I am absolutely in love! Everything about it is just awesome. I totally recommend the brand! They've done a fantastic job recently and with this new Titanium Diver they continue that!
This watch in 36-38mm would get me thinking again. 😅
Great honest, balanced review, no fauning like W&W.
It's been a long while since I was interested in a new CW, and, I too love the darker grey of my "cheaper" titanium watches.
Thank you for the explanation on the grades of titanium and the helium escape valve. I bought a Christopher Ward C60 Sapphire Orange watch, which has been discontinued, and it has a whopping 600m of water resistance, and I paid below $2000.00 for it. It also has a surprisingly thin case. There is a reason why Christopher Ward watches have become so popular. They afford the person with modest means the ability to experience luxury.
Watch out. That helium escapement description was wrong.
@@Judah.Rosenthal Please elaborate. What was wrong about the description?
@@alphacause Helium doesn’t get “pushed out” of the case of a watch on a deep dive. (They’re under water.) It gets into the case of the watch when the divers are in a dry diving bell environment that mixes oxygen and helium, rather than nitrogen/oxygen. Since compressed helium molecules are so small, they slip through the gasket, into the case. When the bell is being brought back to surface pressure is when the helium expanding (volume increases as pressure decreases) pops off the crystals on some watches. Many watches can go far deeper now without an escape valve. But that wasn’t always the true. The dive is immaterial. It’s the dry environment that creates this scenario.
@@Judah.Rosenthal Thank you so much for taking the time out to give such a detailed and clear explanation.
One of my favourites from CW so far! I still don’t love that hour hand, but I’m sure lots of people like it
This watch looks like the start of the anticipated upward move from Ward into Tudor territory.
They have already put out some really interesting distinctive affordable models so far.
On the fence between this and Pagani Design…I like the quick adjustment clasp here and gun metal look, Chris Ward you’re definitely onto something!
Great video, very accurate analysis. In my 4.5 years in the game as a watch collector and enthusiast, I collected a lot from MAMACOO I was thinking I was able to get a blue SD but I'm not vip enough, but I'm not giving up. Hehe. Great video.
Saw the email from CW this morning, immediately loved the design of the watch, especially the orange but they're all nice. The hour markers and hands look kinda edible.
The omega seamaster James Bond is also grade 2 titanium. Small error in the video at 3.14
Serious competition for the Pelagos indeed! Wow! Well done CW 👌
CW doing incredible things. Gonna be mainstream in a couple years. Grab them now folks before stating price starts above 3k
I’m a CW owner (C63 Sealander GMT) so I follow the brand’s progress. This got my attention for sure. Pelagos killer? No probably not but the cork sniffing snobbery is quite funny to behold.
Christopher ward are great at doing a homage but adding slightly different stuff, in a way that works - this and the white dial Sealander GMT are the best examples of this imo. You know what they’re referencing but the value and good design allow them to get away with it with cred intact. I’ve got a black 42mm Pelagos but I would guess this would give you 95% of that for 50% of the price
I am impresed how no one talks about the Longines HydroConquest! I have the blue version and I simply love it!
The clasp is great. I already have one on my Atoll 300. I adore this timepiece and may well purchase it for my big birthday.
Really good looking watch. I'd take it over the Pelagos and any of the alternatives you mentioned. CW is one of the few watch companies innovating in an affordable, client-centric way...and I really like their willingness to connect with customers.
Adrian, next time show us a good lume shot please and test how long it lasts.
This is Just a Beautiful Time Piece and as a pelagos owner I would love to add this to the collection.
2:05 - I'm sure others have pointed it out already, in your comparison between the slimness of a SW300 (3.6mm thick) and the SW200 (4.6mm thick) the watch you used for comparison was the CW C63 GMT, which actually uses the SW330-2 (4.1mm thick) which is just a SW300 with a callers gmt complication on it.
3:15 Nttd is a grade 2 titanium watch
Great video Adrian, I have CW watches and after seeing tbis I may get a third. I think it is gorgeous and very understated. Just my humble opinion
If I were to pull the trigger on a dive watch, or a CW, both of which I was on the edge about for a long time, this would be it.
Black, black and orange rubber, beautiful.
a very very big Pro for me to this new CW is that it has no date. All other alternatives all have the bloody date window which is so much against my tastes. Big win for CW
Here I was thinking "Too bad it doesn't have a date." 😂
@@geoffreydemanuele7084 a no date is a winner
I am also a purist no date guy... and begining to be a Titanium no date guy :) :)
I totally agree!
Pelagos 39?
I wish there was a date version because this is beautiful.
Love the fume dial. It is a Pelagos killer though, while the Tudor is twice the price, it isn't even 10% more watch.
This is a very nice watch. I would like to see them make a 39 mm version to compete directly with the Pelagos 39. With that said, I would still pick my Pelagos: 1) 70 hr. power reserve 2) consistent time keeping regardless of position 3) T-fit clasp with more adjustment slots 4) built-in diver's extension 5) Tudor legacy and cache 6) 5 year warranty 7) potentially 10 year service intervals.
Speaking of the new clasp though, I hope CW would address Nodus' claim that it was copied directly from NodeX.
CW did a great job removing the name CW from their dial and replacing it with a cool design. I would buy one. Great chanel 🍻
This one is growing on me. And the black/grey colour version is the one I would pick with hands like those.
1:45 Did CW say what they did to improve shock resistance? I don't seem to be able to find it on the Trident Lumiere webpage
God!!! MAMACOO Who would have thought those gorgeous watches go for that low!!!
Damn great value for the money! Not my cup of tea but highly respect the direction CW is going.
I love this watch and without a doubt is in competition with the Pelagos
My daily watch is an Omega Seamaster Planet Ocean 600m. It's a beast of a watch but on my wrist it works and I love it. That said, for somewhere around 30-50% of replacement cost, I could get this C60 in titanium vs steel, super super cool lumed indicies and markers, and with a display caseback, that's 3-4mm thinner than the Omega. Honestly, it's not nothing, but I'm tempted to just buy one because its cool and won't break the bank (knock on wood), so enjoyment for the dollar seems pretty damn high.
Totally impressed, the new Favre Leuba is about the same price mind..... Now they're the oldest watch company in the world......I think people don't realise that escape valves only work in diving bells, not actually underwater.
Great video! It's a killer watch at that price. I do have questions with CW going further and further upmarket with their releases, but this is a spec monster that might even be worth it at an even higher price point.
A small note from 2:07 - the Sealander has 150m of water resistance, meaning the new trident has twice the WR, not "over three times the water resistance".
I think they have to to become profitable. This is still good value for money, its just a lot more money.
for sure its stepping into Pelagos terroir, in he end is all about the end user needs and desires. I have my U1-T SDR. All I can say its my tool watch, do it all, everyday watch and I love it. great watch from CW, they never disappoint, they managed to stay ahead of the marketing curve with interesting features, design and pricing.
I’m not sure if I like the printed lume, but a very nice watch indeed. As alternative I would mention the Sinn U50 instead of the 212. It’s only 11mm tick with a 500m water resistance and in the same price range ( although not in titanium)
I haven’t watched an Adrian Barker video in awhile. I’ve missed this.
I think this piece in grey looks amazing. I’m just worried that the thickness of the lume, especially the triangle at 12, looks a bit comical compared to the sleekness of the titanium and grey dial…
Saw a number of CW watches at the Time and Tide showroom today. Went in expecting to like the C1 Moonphase but didn't - the aventurine dial was a bit too sparkly. Was curious about the Bel Canto Classic and it lived upto the hype - the chime put a smile on my face upon first listen. Went in expecting not to like this was and it ended up being my favourite - I'd take it over most dive watches in the industry.
Key takeaway: always have a look at watches in person and on your wrist before buying.
I just bought the 300 Trident pro 40mm (steel with the Sw200)… happy to have the (now) baby brother version for half the price. Plus the blue gloss dial is still my favorite.
That’s a good looking watch , like the grey shade of the titanium with the grey dial and bezel.. I do agree with you regarding the clasp, too long .. apart from that , it’s pretty hard to find fault 👍🏻 well done CW 🇬🇧
I've bought two CW chronometer watches. The first was out of spec upon arrival and returned. The second one fell out of spec after a year of very light wear. I like CW but quality control needs improvement and I hope they see this. Not looking forward to returning it to the UK since I'm in the US. Major hassle.
Amazing piece. Might be my first diver.
Omega diver 300 007 is grade 2 titanium not grade 5
Such a beautiful piece! What I don't understand is why can't CW have a hardened Grade 2 Ti. It will retain the Gr 2 color and minimize the Gr2 short comings
Btw the No Time to Die Omega Seamaster is only Grade 2 Ti. Great disappointment at ~$10K. Nice vid, keep up the great work!
That Omega SMP 300 NTTD is actually grade 2, not grade 5
Absolutely spot on. I spotted that too. For the huge asking price, it should be grade 5!
@@thetenor1000 there’s nothing wrong with grade 2
The grade 2 titanium buckle is a scratch magnet!
@@oscarlu1995 I really concern myself with scratches on my dive watch 🙄
@@RabbitWatchShop You should
I totally agree with you on the watch face. Like the matt finish but only if it is one colour throughout. The bracelet reminds me of the Breitling ChronoAvenger which was titanium albeit the later having less taper to the clasp. Your watchstrap really suits the watch.
I agree on the solid colour. Would be really interesting to see some solid colour ways
I had a chuckle at the $10000 007 Omega Seamaster you showed when discussing titanium grades. That Omega is grade 2 Ti.
Nice watch, with a very cool (if unnecessary) addition of those huge lume indices.
I think you've nailed the natural comparisons here.
The Pelagos is the more premium version, but it really is chunky. It's also priced at the border of where they should really be working in grade 5 rather than grade 2 titanium. Mine definitely scratches easily, albeit over 3-4 years. I'm considering going back to a Submariner, as the chunkiness is getting to be too much.
The Sinn U50 is also an interesting, smaller option. Similar concept, but a more polarising and distinct look. Again, the price is higher, but they are offering something interesting too. I'd love to try one out at some point with the tegiment steel.
Damn that is impressive! I own a Tudor Pelagos LHD. Bought it in perfect condition with bracelet and box/papers for $3,000. So I would say the win easily goes to the Pelagos at that price. However at full price the CW is a true contender. Really like the case, love the height, COSC certified but that face design doesn't do anything for me. Christopher Ward is continuing to impresss.
Do you see CW being able to continue to grow and become a household name without ADs and celebrity endorsements ? Just got my first Ti watch. Takes some getting used to, but loving it. (CW 12)
Not with that awful logo on the dials imo
Love CW, they make so many beautiful watches. I actually own 4 different pieces and wear all of them. Strap changes are so easy. No tools are necessary.
The only critical point is the antimagnetic movement.
But compare to a Omega or even Rolex / Tudor, you get so mutch more watch. 60/60 guarantee is a very good condition.
I highly recommend allmost every CW-Watch!
Very good Video by the way! - go on Adrian! - love your content! ❤
Best watches out there right now at any price
A quick rectification: the Omega Seamaster 300m "No Time to Die" edition is in grade 2 titanium, definitely not grade 5.
Great looking watch and effort by CW and great value for money. I am in the camp of thinner is not better on a tool watch. I think there is a range where the watch just looks to thin for the intended purpose. For a dive watch, I prefer 12.5 - 14.5 mm in thickness. I also believe a display case back has no business being on the back of a tool watch. I wish CW would offer the customer the option of a solid case back or display case back. I still think the Pelagos is the real tool watch here in my opinion. Thanks for the review.
I own a Tudor pelagos LHD, bought it because I am left handed.
I won’t be rushing out to buy a CW watch the only one I would possibly buy would be a belcanto.
Interesting, we didn’t spend more time talking about the ceramic blend lume markers(?) 🤔 that seems to be CW’s big marketing talking point on this particular model claiming they’ve doubled the lume’s brightness over the previous iteration
Absolutely love this. I bought the C60 Atoll recently and have been wearing it so much - it’s just so much watch for the money. This looks like it takes that up several notches! My Pelagos 39 is looking worried 😂
Helium escape valves are for dry dives only, ie for saturation divers.
I think it's a beautiful watch, simple and symmetric. What bothers me is the misalignment between the end of the lugs and the first link of the bracelet (that is attached to the lugs). Another thing about dimensions, Lug width being 22mm I think is a bit larger than what I would like on a 41mm case.
If you’re using a Sinn for comparison, more appropriate would be the U50. Size is quite similar, same movement (not COSC).
I really like the dial markers made of giant cakes of lume! I wonder how they will stand up to aging and service, though.
I like the watch, especially in the grey. The fume is subtle on this variant which can't be said for the blue colourway version. Not sure if I'd buy one as I like the recently launched CW GMTs better. In general Grade 2 titanium is a bit more expensive than grade 5. Grade 5 is a common aerospace grade titanium and there is a lot of it on the general market because of that. Grade 2 is less expensive to machine though and this allows more complex cases to be affordable. A lot of smaller brands use Grade 5 but the cases are simpler than that on the Lumiere. It all depends on what you want to achieve with your case design and at what price.
Thought this was a very fair assessment. Super case design. However, ehhh on the plastic looking raised hour markers. While a nice bracelet overall, that B&J strap did enhance the look overall therefore converting it to a great field beater.
Yup another winner for me. Love the lume blocks and the fume dial adds interest. Quite happy with the Sealander so another grand on top doesn’t really make much sense for my needs. Very nice though.
Sick lume and insanely thin for a dive watch. If I wasn’t a shallow a-hole and didn’t care about spending over $1k for a C. Ward, I’d be totally into this thing. As you said… on paper, this is hard to beat. It’s hard to justify spending that much coin in a watch that won’t get you any props of serious watch nerd circles. The only thing I don’t like design wise (visually)is how much drape there is to the bracelet immediately off the lugs. Again though, that feature probably contributes to,this being a comfortable watch to wear ( it sure if you gave your opinion on comfort, though that’s subjective). Thanks for making the video!
That a watch "won’t get you any props of serious watch nerd circles" is a positive thing.
I actually prefer this slightly to the newer Pelagos. CW has been killing it lately.
A very handsome timepiece, the best CW to date