I FIXED The HARDEST START in VICTORIA 3 | TEXAS |
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Texas has the hardest start in the game, You have to first beat Mexico then beat America, two powers both many times your size in magnitude. In this video I fixed that problem by coming up with a foolproof plan to win independence as Texas in Victoria 3.
Texas conquers America as a British colony. What a cursed timeline.
Nah ong 😭
Theres a letter Sam Houston wrote to Andrew Jackson threatening that if Texas isnt admitted into the united states they might just have to join the british empire, which wasnt really something that realistically would have happened but its funny nonetheless
your forgetting the northeast leading a civil war that looks like a flipped version of the actual civil war
Have german as the primary culture, and you can have the texadeutsch which is a real group
Yep. The Texas state government even recognizes their dialect as a separate language. Fredericksburg, which is nicknamed German Texas, is a cool little western themed town
you can't add primary cultures
@@ujotowh1514 darn it would have been fun
@@ujotowh1514Pretty sure you can
@@ujotowh1514the only exception is turtle island which can stack primary cultures if greenland exists as a independent country
Little historical context: this was actually the tactic Sam Houston used in real history to defeat Mexico. He disbanded the Texas army at the headquarters, and they all teleported to the battlefield of San Jacinto and overwhelmed Santa Anna’s army. This innovative act won him the title “the father of Texas”
And yet they don't teach this in schools. It's a shame really...
@@TobyYellsAtThingsthey taught it in my school but that may be because I’m from the south but none the less it should not only be taught in the south as it is a important part of history
I really wish there was a journal entry of some sort that would allow Texas to enforce its claimed borders
Fr, I assume it'll come at some point.
Can't you choose revoke claim as wargoal?
@@nachtvosje4255 yup you can
Future DLC idea son
@@nachtvosje4255 look up Texas’s claimed borders. They went all the way into Wyoming
“We’re gonna bait the ai into attacking us”
so… exactly what the Texans did back then?
sounds like someone doesn't remember the alamo!!!
@@petralizzy7383 and Goliad
@@petralizzy7383At San Jacinto Houston used the retreating Texas government as bait to get Santa Ana by himself in a poor defensive position then attacked after the soldiers feel asleep leading to a decisive victory
Someone hasn't heard of the definition of a phuric victory@@petralizzy7383
What history did you learn?
I think Victoria 3 is best enjoyed as the minor countries. They give you such modular and in-depth control that is hard to replicate when you start as such a large country such as Great Britian. Texas is a perfect example of it!
Exactly, I always start as minor countries in every Paradox game. But I think they got harder to play in the recent patch. In the past you could establish a reliable relation with at least one great power, have a defensive pact or an alliance, trade agreement or customs union. My experience with the current patch is that Great Britain is friendly at first, then wants me to join the British Empire and when I refuse they turn hostile and cancel all treaties. This excludes GB, Austria, Russia and the Ottomans from the list of potential friends and only leaves trade leagues viable. Becasue in every game I had in this patch, the great power I was friends with always wanted me in their power bloc. Second thing is that big (mostly European) countries love to guarantee every little state around me, so expansion is much harder. And the last thing is that you can't abuse your alliance with a great power to get free stuff from them every time an African tribe rebels against them 😅 Although this change makes sense, it was ridiculous before.
so is alyaska if you can get independence before russia or america annex you
If you managed to make Texas work in the new patch, do you think you could try making Iquicha work (puppet of Bolivia at the start of the game)? They can *potentially* form Tawantinsuyu -- the Inca Empire, basically -- and mechanics like foreign countries now being able to guarantee your independence, and subjects being able to ally each other, might make things easier, but the Peru-Bolivian Confederation puts you on an incredibly difficult 10-year timetable to not just secure independence, but utterly dismantle your overlord before you get annexed. And this is something you have to pull off as a tiny, unrecognized power that is not only landlocked, but completely surrounded by Peru, which will likely(?) unify if left to its own devices.
I'd almost prefer starting at war if they at least had a coastline.
That's an interesting idea, I'll have to look into it to see if I can make a good video out of it.
Two minutes in and bro retires Sam Houston.... nah man, my Texan brain is triggered
Blame paradox, they didn't make him good enough.
@@TobyYellsAtThingsImagine if they made him as OP as real life. Bro captured the Mexican president and his army with some remnants of the Texas army, and forced him to sign a peace treaty.
Paradox should unironically make the default texas commander have this trait, so we can actually see Texas now and again
firing houston off the rip is a borderline treasonous action
I've been looking through vicky youtubers casually since I moved from eu4 to vic3 a few months ago but no one really clicked. Then this video was suggested to me, I bit, and instantly felt so good about the production and vibes that I instantly subscribed in less than 2 minutes. I'm hopeful I found my vicky guy.
Hahaha that's funny
well the community is still small on yt despite the game being out for 2 years
As for vicky 3 modded there are only a handful of videos xD
Modded vic 3 videos just don't perform well on yt.
@@TobyYellsAtThings that is sad as some mods are really fun
I think for some mods like cold war mod or new order there need to be a guy who fully explains the mod
mby then videos like that will perform
as in hoi4 they do sometimes
@@TobyYellsAtThings Depends on the mods no? I dont play with anything that alters gameplay, just QoL and maybe some extra events. Fully modded, sure, I see why the community would be tiny. The whole fun is relating to the actual countries and making them great again. That doesn't exist if you are playing some aliens with a Victoria 3 Engine, and there is Stellaris for that (which I also enjoy as of recently). I also like how you can save and get achievements w mods in Victoria, and I was a diehard Ironman EUIV & HoI IV player. If you wanna cheat to get an achievement with the no-save/no mod Paradox games, you still can, even in Ironman (just download a mod that literally lets you pick which achievements you get). But that isn't fun. So I love having the objectives Ironman goals provide (struggle to come up with my own goals), while playing with QoL mods or mods that simply fix broken gameplay to get there. Id say hardest achievement I have gotten in a PDX game is the one Kingdom of Jerusalem one from EUIV where you have to start as the Knights on Rhodes. Hardest I am aware of in any of their games tho is the HRE one in HOI4, where you start as Hungary or something, because its literally RNG to get the events you need for it, and you have to completely restart every time if you dont roll the right ones and you need MANY RNG events to have a chance. That said, Vicky is a lot less cheesy than HOI, which I like. Curbstomping Russia as Finland is fun and all stacking winter bonuses but it gets old after a while.
@@Saltkoenigin Hopefully Victoria 2 modders can add some modern day mods, since Victoria 2 is better for longer periods of time than HOI4, which is made to optimize the experience of one war
Victoria 3: the worst starting nation
Victoria 2: the best starting nation
Honestly now I want to try this myself- make historical CSA borders as Texas plus Cuba. Could be a fun little RP scenario, plus as a Texan this sort of thing makes me happy
I knew a lot of people wanted to play Texas, which is why I made this strat.
Why CSA borders? Sounds sus.
@@ChrissieBear Because they're pretty and Aesthetic, of course. It's also all homeland for Dixie pops and Cuba was always a big want for Southerners
* spends ten minutes exploiting the AI *
“Now it’s time to game the system a little bit”
I would never
Excellent strategy, after your initial moves quelling Mexico to regain Texas, I decided to go on my own path. It’s now the year 1850, I managed to grab Rio Grande from Mexico, I am now in the US’s power bloc and have them as an ally, and my treaty with Mexico is almost up so it’s about to get good. I appreciate all of your insight to allow this to happen!
The taxfraud threat got to me, subscribed.
Texan Mongolian retreat tactics go hard asf
If you’re struggling with money as early texas, you can just import or export and tariff the crap out of trade routes and spawn in money, this also allows you to drop taxes completely, at least from my experience.
What does this mean? Can you explain it more?
Trade routes can downsize to only level 1s, this would mean you can set up , for example, a bunch of luxury clothes trade routes and set a tariff on imports for that good. This means you don’t exactly spawn in money, but just steal money from ai, since they usually subsidise their own trade routes. Just make sure to not subsidise your own trade routes.
Trump doctrine
You're a pretty cool dude, you and Ludi singlehandedly got me to play vic3. 53 hours and currently destroying my life lol.
Amazing video. Amazing how you got 10K subs! Well deserved.
Loved the tropico music throughout the vid
Cool to see someone else noticed it!
Noooooooo don't mess with the tax man I subscribed even though I'm late
This was entertaining, thanks!
Any Time!
35:30 the general named "Sterling Warfield" goes so hard
That man is defined by his work.
I don't think this war strategy vs Mexico could even be called 🧀. It's just the digital representation of a battlefield feint. I'll be interested to try this in other situations.
I'm already subscribed, but i kinda wanna see the tax fraud
When I go to jail I hope it's for Tax Fraud.
@@TobyYellsAtThings"when"
@@TobyYellsAtThingsbro has committed some other crimes he doesn't want anybody to know about 💀
Lonestar acquired Florida man 😮 there is no hope tho beat big T now 😂
I haven't seen anything on this game before, it's satisfying to see historical relationships matter and knowing about them actually helps you in the game.
All I have been doing in 1.7 is just setting sam houston to defend, always won first battle and grabbed santa. In a few playthroughs I chose to be dominion to steal pops, can be a struggle to keep the liberty desire climbing though. So slow gaining pops being completely free in the beginning.
Him ignoring the notifications in the upper right corner made me cry.
Most recent update made this offensive impossible, removed the adamant general option and added some more units to the initial border war. Watching as another nation Texas just gets stomped by Mexico with no Santa Anna peace deal. On the bright side I think the US is less aggressive towards annexing Texas with its war goals, I'm managing to hold 3 Mexican provinces and half of Oklahoma. Did the general peace deal and pushed on the Mexican American war. (My economy is so bad, paradox is doing everything in their power to make Texas impossible)
Bro I only ever played Victoria 3 as Texas, because I am a Texan and hell yea, and thought the game was so damn hard I just wasn't cut out for it. Good to know I am not uniquely horrible at V3.
33:16 Piccolo would be proud
IM NOT A BIG FAN OF THE GOVERNMENT
@OrangeGoggles1 30 on 30
I like this kind of gameplay.. from weak country to conquer the world.
Someone did a texas run on like patch 1.0 and ever since then ive wanted to see another one!
Was it "ThatGuyFromCollege" by chance?
Your vids is so good
counterpoint: Krakow is the hardest start in Vic3
Cool new profile image
Thanks I had it commissioned. I wish I could draw this well.
@@TobyYellsAtThings don't worry you are probably really good at straight lines. Just don't take it to an art school
Interesting idea, HRE as France
Pog video my guy ❤
Can somebody tell me name of the song that starts playing at around 15:30 ? Thanks fine people
Gerudo valley from - The legend of Zelda ocarina of time.
cool you are really persistent impressed........:)
Great content, you should do qing tall and world domination
You can go all the way up to 99 infamy in this game.
Nice video. Can you play as indian territories and try to take EEUU ??
I have tried so many times to make Indian territory work...
still no breakthrough
@@TobyYellsAtThings Yeah I feared that
As someone from Kentucky.
It's cute that you think we can play football...
Texas; the wide star state.
So I’ve been playing Texas a lot lately (and struggling) and also noticed that the roll you got there with the Free States early on then the Confederate States is super rare. Haven’t got it myself yet. What was your plan for Mexico had that not happened? Obviously attack them but how? No way you could build Texas military high enough to win.
The original plan was to wait for USA to wreck Mexico's military and invade while they were weak. It requires some pretty good timing to pull off and a little bit of luck because sometimes the AI will hard target the player in wars.
You'd also have to push in super fast as to not let Mexico regain their Military power. It's kinda the same thing I did to Brazil in my Piratini video.
@@TobyYellsAtThings gotcha gotcha. Thanks for the reply! One more question if you have the time. This is less about “meta” but just curious. Did you ever try try becoming a subject of USA (not annex into) and try keeping Liberty desire high, and kinda ride the bike of America’s military to expand? Then eventually declare independence?
I somehow always found texas the easiest start, even when 1.7 came out. I always ended up with a bunch of states like California, new mexico, arizona, kexican texas and Louisiana. I dont know how I do it but I do
France and UK at war is nothing strange, just a long time tradition!
Circassiaaaa next pleaseeeee wasted a whole week replaying the run and maaan, need a guide
Guys yall saved him from tax fraud
Keep playing. Wanna see Texas #1. Also wish they added more flavor for Texas, considering it was the only real "country" that became a state. Would be cool if they had some alt Texas history where it stays independant.
The sheer disrespect for Hawaii here, smh
Congrats on 10k
Please do a video on how to commit tax fraud anyway.
I won first time against Mexico there’s an event at that makes you win immediately
I would love to see you do a video on Japan and conquer massively
That's a Video I've kinda been working on. Not sure if I want to do planned out videos or just go for it.
Texas should be able to form the Confederate States if it has all the states and get some sort of bonus for doing so. Plantation throughput or sth
Hey man love the vid, and not to be a horrific meanie but the word your looking for is "monstrous" not "demonstrous" . The demonstrous and monstrous have completely different roots, one being like monster, and one being like demonstrate. The "de-" isn't a prefix, its just part of the word.
Did north rise up from federal government this time
Looks like it. My guess would be that Texas going its own way made the political situation get unstable faster (no war with Mexico to rally people around) and the more tense situation lead to the Missouri compromise failing and the North seceding in protest.
Note that this is how I would explain it from what I know of the period, not based on my understanding of how the game models these things (I haven't started playing it, yet).
@@benjaminmiddaugh2729 i checked game wiki and apparently if souther farmers in charge during the event "slavery debate" then north seceeds
@@gladys2563 So they're simulating the idea that the Missouri compromise would have been impossible if the South thought they had all the leverage and the North would have left over the failure.
I'm not entirely sure that's the way things would have actually gone under those circumstances (the South's main national concern was their economic base and their political base was a means to maintaining that, so if they thought their power and economic base was secure they probably would still have been open to something like the Missouri compromise anyway), it's not a completely implausible option.
In terms of non-Vic 3 alternate history, I'm not sure even my original comment would have been accurate, at least in terms of the timeline.
Without a war with Mexico, president Polk's whole agenda (adding Texas to the United States) becomes difficult, especially if Texas itself decides to go its own way (not historically likely, as the whole Texas revolution was basically Southern Americans annoyed at Mexico's slavery ban, but we're discussing the scenario from the video, so I'll grant it in this case). There would still have been room for expansion (I'd expect an even faster betrayal and conquest of the remaining Native American nations), and a clash with Mexico would probably have still come to pass at some point (maybe after the civil war instead of before it?).
As such, the debate over slavery becomes a bit more challenging to predict. The South always looked at it from the perspective of economic power and saw the Northern approach to abolitionism as an attempt to decapitate the South's power base by destroying their economy. Meanwhile, the North was increasingly divided between those who saw abolitionism as a moral crusade and those who saw it as the greatest threat to the country's political stability (and the crusaders often weren't doing a good job of softening either of their opponent's impressions). The main problem was that neither side could seem to imagine how to get the South a different economic system without forcing the issue.
So I'm kind of stuck between two historical forces. The forces that led to the Civil War were still be present while those that forced the Missouri compromise mostly would be absent, apart from their constituent parts, which could still reconfigure in roughly the same way. The idea I'm coming around to is that the slavery debate might well have been a bit more delayed under these circumstances, since not having Texas or California (which is another can of worms that could have gone multiple ways) would have defused a lot of the immediate political tension. The expansion into new territories was what drove a lot of the debate at the national politics level in the 1840s, but I'm not sure how much the lack of the territorial gains from Mexico would alter that, so it's hard to say.
One last thing. I'm almost certain that the North would not have seceded with the goal of being their own independent country. I'm not sure exactly what form it would take, but the North were (mostly) strongly Whig, and the Whigs were the party of big central government. The argument would have almost certainly been along the lines of rebellion in the name of reforming the entire national system to be better for the entire country long-term, instead of going off to be left alone. Also, the growing abolitionism of the North would never have allowed the North to just leave the South alone about that, even if they separated.
This has been a fun mental exercise, but I've run out of steam and everything else would be further rambling.
"We changed the war system to cut down on micromanagement"
I put the micro management back into it.
i can only focus on the bacground music😭 it's so pleasant
I'll take that as a compliment.
Kira theme scared the shit out of me
LMAO
come-ann-chee (as in cheese)
Texas sigma
In my game the second bar never shows even when the Mexican army is at 3 days
Dude, Montenegro
I love Victoria 3 as a viewer but anytime I even think about trying to start playing it, it explodes my Small hearts of iron brain
As someone who never played HoI, Victoria is basically just "Make number go up". After the first tutorial (Sweden), you basically understand everything that the game has. Imo, its the easiest PDX title to grasp, but then again, I never played HoI *shrugs*
TEXAS FTW
I will save you from taax fraauud.
No tax fraud this month… We out here reducing crime
Play as grão-para!!!
I dont want to say anything, but I did this without even trying lol
I'm always a big fan of border gore
nice zelda music dude
Zelda music slaps.
That soundtrack is the Day theme from World 1 of Sonic Unleashed
>>Worst Start
>>Hasn't Played as Central America
Try keeping Central America from splitting. Good luck!
Or for bonus, save the Indian Territory.
Hey Toby, I noticed that your mobilization screen when managing armies is much easier to read than mine. Do you use a mod that changes it?
No everything I have is vanilla. It could possibly be one of the themes but I haven't modded anything.
Never mind, it was just in the military screen lmao
I relate way to hard to this comment.
My state ah yes....
Can you play this on other platforms?
8:32 “e-end”
Leaving Florida twice hopefully he won’t leave it this time leaving a back door for a third time 40:20
Doing my part to save you from tax fraud. 🤣
They just deathstack me and I always lose the second battle.
hey im not sure you know what demonstrable means
didnt work for me. did the strat, then the mexican advance bar would go to 85 or so, dissapear, and they would just randomly advance without the bar
Subscribed for tax fraud, don't let me down.
maybe that is how they won in real life, (yes they actually won but USA anexed them anyways)
There's a Victoria 3?!
So, When is your epic newly updated German Unification speedrun? 😥
👀
I thought 1.7 drastically increased mid/late game performance?
It did, I think the 1.7.3 patch specifically slowed the game down just a bit. I need to keep my recording under or around 2 hours for my editor's sake.
When are you getting rid of slavery?
July 17th 1922
Toby did you get bit by a spider?
Not yet
In 1.8.3 it's not possible anymore I think?
I tried for 2 hours and nothing.
@@LeCitoyen42 sounds like I need to update this then.
@@TobyYellsAtThings They removed the fact of being able to change generals and in addition there are two of them now.
"i have fixed our radical problems" (still 25% radicals)
Eehhh, mostly fixed...
I best Mexico first try?
Still easier than the brazilian separatist territorries
Yes, Dom United States mommy
Yay, no tax fraud. (Do it anyway)
Why not do some caribbean campaigns in-between american wars?
Honestly no reason tbh. Just didn't because no rember.
Play vectoria 3 as nepal 🇳🇵 ❤
Please do super ireland video