How I Fixed My Deck That Behr Deckover Destroyed

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  • Опубликовано: 30 ноя 2024

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  • @cannahelpu
    @cannahelpu Месяц назад +1

    Bondo works great on wood instead of fillers, and it’s dry and able to be sanded within minutes.

    • @JaysDMC
      @JaysDMC  Месяц назад

      I never knew this! Thank you for sharing. That's good to know.

    • @cannahelpu
      @cannahelpu Месяц назад

      @@JaysDMC you have to work fast once you mix it with the harder because it will literally turn hard within like 5mins , so only mix a small amount do one area at a time. Plenty of videos explaining it I’d check one out first if you have never used it before, but it’s not difficult really.

    • @JaysDMC
      @JaysDMC  Месяц назад

      @@cannahelpu This is really great advice. I can personally tell you that I've had mixed results with the wood filler.
      I wish I used bondo like you suggested.

    • @cannahelpu
      @cannahelpu Месяц назад +1

      @@JaysDMC hey that’s okay just keep it in mind, something you can add to your repertoire ….you video was great !👍

    • @cannahelpu
      @cannahelpu Месяц назад +1

      @@JaysDMC they also make a short strand fiberglass filler which repairs holes up to 0.5in. (12mm) ! It’s fantastic

  • @gphilpot1
    @gphilpot1 4 года назад +2

    Glad you could salvage most of your deck. You caught it early. I plan to rent a hardwood floor sander to get most of mine stripped off (650 square foot of deck surface). Fingers crossed it will work to remove that stuff. Then I have to assess what can be saved versus what has to be replaced. What a nightmare.
    In talking to a few folks, the problem with Deck Over is the product dries hard. This does not allow for expansion, this causing cracks in the Deck Over. With time water penetrates the Deck Over cracks and the wood absorbs it like a sponge. Then it decays much like a tooth cavity. Simple stain cover doesn't form a complete shell incasing the wood like Deck Over so the wood stands a better chance to breath.
    There is another product called Tuff Coat that is a rubberized polyurethane coating. Same principle as Deck Over, but it never dries hard and stays pliable for expansion and contracting. I used it on my boat floor and it was awesome. But, I will have to test it on wood before I get myself into another mess....

    • @JaysDMC
      @JaysDMC  4 года назад +1

      it's a huge chore but I'm happy I did it and I'm so glad it's over with. Best of luck to you!

    • @bizjetjohn7666
      @bizjetjohn7666 4 года назад

      Greg how did the floor sander work? I am.in the same situation. Thanks

    • @johnthomson5315
      @johnthomson5315 6 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@bizjetjohn7666not Greg, but I just tried it. No success. The paint is too hard

  • @lisafalleroni1012
    @lisafalleroni1012 2 года назад +2

    thanks for this video. so sad we have to resort to this b/c of picking a terrible product. every single surface i used Deck Over on is ruined . a deck that was lovely than i installed 15 years ago, the wood is just deteriorated from this product. sadly, my surface area is just too large for me (current health issues) to repair. it will end up costing me a lot of $$$$$ to have a company come in and do this but i cannot in my current situation.

    • @JaysDMC
      @JaysDMC  2 года назад +2

      I was just getting lumber from my local home depot and mentioned what I went through with this product. Before I finished my sentence the rep said "STAY AWAY FROM THAT CRAP! IT'LL RUIN YOUR DECK!!!!!"
      Terrible

  • @dennismccarthy5280
    @dennismccarthy5280 2 года назад +1

    Very good advice. I have the same problem. Deck over should be banned. It looked great for two years and now after 4 years it's pealing off in sheets. What a mess. Now at lease I know what needs to be done.

    • @JaysDMC
      @JaysDMC  2 года назад

      Good luck. Time and patience are key!

  • @bdo96
    @bdo96 3 года назад +8

    please do a quick update video on how it looks after a year!!

  • @gnarstypow
    @gnarstypow 4 года назад +1

    Dealt with this problem on my home this summer. It wasn't deck over but a very similar product. Tried chipping the paint off to refinish but decided to just replace all the top boards. Cost benefit seemed to favor spending $900 for all new lumber vs $200-$300 to refinish the old wood.

    • @JaysDMC
      @JaysDMC  4 года назад

      A lot of work, right!?

  • @scottyboy6269
    @scottyboy6269 3 месяца назад

    Angle grinder and sanding flap disc + stripping disc was what I needed

    • @JaysDMC
      @JaysDMC  3 месяца назад

      It's a huge project! Such a shame that this destructive product is still being sold.

  • @teresaw8809
    @teresaw8809 4 года назад +4

    I’m almost at the end of the same project. I spent two weeks before and after work (since I’m working from home for now) scrapping, chipping and peeling. Sometimes I used an electric planer to cut thru the hard stuff but after a couple passes here and there the planer would get hot and just smear it. I found it a little easier to peel up just after a rain and spent all my spare time (sometimes even in the rain) on this project. I just finished replacing the rotten boards, staircase and sanding what I can salvage (although I should replace them but this has taken to long already). My deck has looked ratty for a while now, the deck over in some spots just flapped in the wind while the other half of the deck seemed like it was melted on.

    • @JaysDMC
      @JaysDMC  4 года назад +1

      You're very right! There were times I'd have a stubborn part of the wood where I couldn't get paint up. I'd stop for the night and come back a day or so later - perhaps it rained during that time - and BEHOLD! it all started to come off again. Very good point!

    • @kimbarnard6369
      @kimbarnard6369 3 года назад

      Teresa, I totally feel your pain! We are in the trenches of HELL trying to remove the Deck Over of our 15 x 50 size deck! Ugh 😡😡😡

  • @snakeclaw
    @snakeclaw 2 года назад +7

    Nice video. So it's been a year and how has that finished held up?

  • @lcruz3634
    @lcruz3634 2 года назад

    We had the same exact issue with our deck! My dad is a contractor, we did everything right when applying. The first winter, it was peeling off like sheets of paper and blowing away in the wind. Wr had the same experience where it stuck to the railing, but peeled off the top. I wish I would have seen your video, I just found it after 3 coats of paint stripper, still not coming off. So frustrated! Boards were beautiful before deckover, and we had to replace 8 20ft 2x6 boards.

    • @JaysDMC
      @JaysDMC  2 года назад

      Terrible! I hate reading comments like this. And I speak from experience. It's heartbreaking to tear up a once perfectly healthy deck to repair what this product destroyed.

  • @johnmoore5293
    @johnmoore5293 3 года назад +6

    Thank you. I'm thinking I'll do the same as you. I was close to doing deck over. I think you saved me a lot of work

    • @JaysDMC
      @JaysDMC  3 года назад

      Glad you didn't use this crap!

  • @marciascholl5483
    @marciascholl5483 Год назад

    I am in the process of getting rid of the Deckover - it is the absolute pits! I found that if I wait a bit for the sun to heat the deck up I can scrape (with a putty knife) up sheets of the stuff. Also, in the really, really hard places I've used a heat gun with some success - but I don't use that often cause it's a pain. Also, I found that if you scrape and then put some water on it to get under the Deckover it can scrape up a bit easier. This is an all summer project...punishment for anything bad I've ever done and could possibly do in the future...

    • @JaysDMC
      @JaysDMC  Год назад +1

      Don't give up. It's a real pain in the rear but in the end, it's not impossible.
      I wish I never used this garbage!

  • @littauer99
    @littauer99 2 года назад

    Just finished the same project you did. Took me several weeks in between rainy days. Lots of hard work but it was worth it. Thanks!

    • @JaysDMC
      @JaysDMC  2 года назад

      Such a shame so many went through this. Glad its behind you now though!

    • @AndYetHereWeAre
      @AndYetHereWeAre Год назад

      @@JaysDMC Don't worry... you'll be going through it again in 2 years...

    • @JaysDMC
      @JaysDMC  Год назад

      @@AndYetHereWeAre As long as you stay away from the deck over garbage, you should be ok.

  • @Eddie-yc5yd
    @Eddie-yc5yd Год назад

    My deck over peeled after 3 years. Glad I saw your video

    • @JaysDMC
      @JaysDMC  Год назад

      Sorry to hear that. Hope you don't have a lot of damage.

  • @annayu28
    @annayu28 2 года назад +3

    We have a massive deck with deck over, and it's painful! Home Depot went thru a lawsuit in 2018 and lost. Wonder if we can follow up with this??

  • @npf21
    @npf21 3 года назад +3

    Is it just better to avoid Behr Deck paints all together? Like your vid and others with bad behr paint experience, I just used Canadian Tires Extra Premier Semi-Transparent deck paint because of I had lower temps just above 5*C at night and it seemed okay in reviews but not alot of individual deck reviews. I guess only time will tell

  • @pcthayer
    @pcthayer Год назад +1

    Thanks for posting your videos, since you just saved my a$$ since I was almost ready to use the Deck Over. (I'll use the Behr solid stain instead.)

    • @JaysDMC
      @JaysDMC  Год назад

      Whatever you do, stay away from it!

    • @pcthayer
      @pcthayer Год назад

      @@JaysDMC I certainly will....Thanks. BTW....I saw a video listing 5 other brands of "deck restorer" and people replied saying there were issues with them too.

  • @rfarevalo
    @rfarevalo 3 года назад +2

    You can strip much easier with a Diamabrush for Wood, Decks, and Siding from a Lowes hardware.

    • @JaysDMC
      @JaysDMC  3 года назад

      I never knew that. Thank you for sharing!!!

    • @kklein280
      @kklein280 3 года назад

      Did you sand all the spindles or paint over... I used deck over and ready to get started

    • @joanchantler2498
      @joanchantler2498 3 года назад

      Thank you so much! I just tried sandpaper 60 grit and I'd be there until eternity.

  • @DotAndDasho
    @DotAndDasho 2 года назад

    We had a few guys use this on our 20x40 deck and it’s now completely destroyed. We have been saving up to replace it and have watched it slowly deteriorate. My husband is a quadriplegic and cannot even roll on the deck as it’s not safe. Behr should be held responsible for selling this product!

    • @JaysDMC
      @JaysDMC  2 года назад

      I'm terribly sorry to hear this. I agree with you - it's a terrible product. Have you assessed how many boards need to be replaced?

  • @bettyford6391
    @bettyford6391 3 года назад +4

    I was suggested 'Deck Over by Home Depot salesperson and one week into the hot sun the paint is bubbling, Expensive paint to just waste my money. What can I co?

    • @JaysDMC
      @JaysDMC  3 года назад +2

      Start stripping it and fast! It'll eventually wreck the wood on your deck

  • @SusanMcQu
    @SusanMcQu Год назад

    We used it also! Looked good for a year and now it’s horrible! We keep talking about how the heck we are going to do this job! Good job on yours!!

    • @JaysDMC
      @JaysDMC  Год назад

      I'm sorry to hear that. That's terrible. So many decks were ruined because of DeckOver. Horrible product!!!

  • @kevinburrus4386
    @kevinburrus4386 3 года назад

    Thanks for the video. My question is... on the places that you could not get up (the deck-over remnants) did you put the brown stain on top of that? How did a oil-based stain stick to the acrylic-based deck-over remnants? I have a huge deck and there is right much that I cannot get off so I am curious how it will do with paint or stain on top of it. Thanks in advance.

    • @JaysDMC
      @JaysDMC  3 года назад

      so for the floor itself I sanded everything down. However, for the spindles and the railing I ended up painting right over what was there and had zero issues whatsoever.

    • @chevysslady100
      @chevysslady100 5 месяцев назад

      Good to kno as I'm dealing with this in 2024 on the railing! Ugh

  • @lifehealingmagic
    @lifehealingmagic Год назад

    I used deckover 5 years ago and now have been on my hands and knees for the last couple of months trying to remove this GARBAGE. I tried several paint strippers, nothing worked. Finally I just took a kitchen knife and started lifting and peeling the paint in full sun or just after it rained - both the sun and the rain helped soften the paint and it seemed to come off easier. Then I purchased an orbital sander to take off the rest. It's been an absolute nightmare getting back to the natural wood surface. Some boards were rotted out because of trapped moisture. I definitely learned my lesson, and wouldn't recommend this product to my worst enemy. It will destroy your deck... And either cost you a ton of money to replace OR you're going to have to put in an unwarranted amount of sweat equity in to clean it off yourself. Long story short, I know your pain!! LOL 😂

    • @JaysDMC
      @JaysDMC  Год назад +1

      My experience was just like yours. I feel your pain. Sorry you're going through this.

    • @lifehealingmagic
      @lifehealingmagic Год назад

      @@JaysDMC I finally finished this weekend. Just used a weather proof oil to give the wood some moisture and life. It's not perfect but it's better than what it was!

    • @JaysDMC
      @JaysDMC  Год назад

      @@lifehealingmagic That's cheaper than replacing the deck! That's for sure!!!

  • @joep5337
    @joep5337 2 года назад

    I notice you did not prime the wood. I never do either, but I wonder if I'm making a mistake. It just seems to me I shouldn't have to dramatically increase my cost and time invested to use a primer. Surely, the finishing product can be made sticky enough to adhere to the wood if primer can adhere to the wood. Just seems like a racket to me. How did your new stain and paint hold up in the two years since you made the video?

    • @JaysDMC
      @JaysDMC  2 года назад

      The new stain held up great!!! I didn't use a primer only because the directions never said to. I agree with you on the importance of using one.

  • @tonyaallegrezza8314
    @tonyaallegrezza8314 2 года назад

    OMG, I just found your video. I am going through the same thing! This has helped me a lot.

    • @JaysDMC
      @JaysDMC  2 года назад

      Sorry to hear that... Glad this helped

    • @tonyaallegrezza8314
      @tonyaallegrezza8314 2 года назад +1

      @@JaysDMC How has the stain that you put on held up?

    • @JaysDMC
      @JaysDMC  2 года назад +1

      @@tonyaallegrezza8314 very well. 2 years after I laid it down I had some scuffs and scrapes that needed to be touched up. I power washed everything and put a new coat down. Still looks new!!

    • @karltang9590
      @karltang9590 2 года назад

      @@JaysDMC This is great to hear! Did you just put a new coat on top, or did you have to remove the previous coat first?

    • @JaysDMC
      @JaysDMC  2 года назад +1

      @@karltang9590 I scraped and sanded down as much as I possibly could. I wanted as much of that product off my deck as possible so the new paint has something proper to bond to.

  • @lisashort105
    @lisashort105 3 года назад

    We used Behr deck over and what a mess.. we are getting ready to redo ours. There was a class action lawsuit on the product, but we never received any compensation. How has the new product held up?

    • @JaysDMC
      @JaysDMC  3 года назад

      So far, great! I have a few little spots where I need to touch it up but that's to be expected. I have no complaints so far.

  • @kimbarnard6369
    @kimbarnard6369 3 года назад

    Did you put that white paint on before (like a primer) the solid color?? We are in the trenches of HELL ourselves removing the Deck Over off our 15 x 50 size deck!

    • @JaysDMC
      @JaysDMC  3 года назад +2

      For the white paint, we just painted right over the spindles and running boards. No issues there. needed 2 coats though. Been almost a year now, still holding strong!

  • @gersonrosales3488
    @gersonrosales3488 3 года назад

    What is the look of it now that it has been 10 months. I am getting ready to paint, and I am considering this product. I had the same story happen to me with that deck over junk. Thanks

    • @JaysDMC
      @JaysDMC  3 года назад +6

      I'm happy to say that it has aged very well. Nothing at all like how the deckover project aged. It's still bonded / stained to the wood and looks great. I'd be happy to provide a follow up video as soon as I can.

  • @jameshannon3067
    @jameshannon3067 2 года назад

    Has anyone used a stripper to get ride of their deckover. If so, what type would you recommend? I'm in the beginning stages of a similar project, big deck, I need to get this deckover crap off before it destroys any more boards. Ran a ig, rented, belt sander on it this weekend, 36 grit paper, minimal results.

    • @JaysDMC
      @JaysDMC  2 года назад

      I didn't. I did it the hard way - scrape, peel, sand... not fun at all!

  • @hwkfans
    @hwkfans 3 года назад

    Great video.....appreciate the information.

  • @jakepeterson4912
    @jakepeterson4912 3 года назад

    Was the white porch and floor straight out of the can or a color added? Did it cover good?

    • @JaysDMC
      @JaysDMC  3 года назад

      White was straight from the can and brown was tinted at Home Depot.

  • @snakeclaw
    @snakeclaw 2 года назад

    It's interesting to me that the deck over stuck like glue on your ballasters and it's coming off on the top of the handrail. So my question is did you apply the deck over on a Sunny day and was it warm?

    • @JaysDMC
      @JaysDMC  2 года назад +1

      Hi! Slight overcast, 70 - 75 degree weather.

    • @snakeclaw
      @snakeclaw 2 года назад

      @@JaysDMC thx. So a year later how is the new finish holding up?

    • @JaysDMC
      @JaysDMC  2 года назад

      @@snakeclaw Yes, that is correct. The only parts that needed touch up would be where the chairs scratched the floors. But nothing pulled or peeled like with the last finish.

  • @Gideon_Judges6
    @Gideon_Judges6 2 года назад

    How many coats? Just 1 coat of the Porch & Patio Floor Paint and then go over with 1 coat of the Stain + Sealer? I have a deck that's been seasoning a few years and ready for treatment now, but thankfully a bunch of RUclips horror story vids like yours are saving me from ruining it.

    • @JaysDMC
      @JaysDMC  2 года назад +1

      For good measure I did 2 coats which looked great for about 2 years. Then it needed touchups which were expected. I just redid it all again and it looks wonderful. I simply cleaned the deck as directed and stained again. Didn't need to scrape or anything.

  • @Evelyn-yx4pn
    @Evelyn-yx4pn 2 года назад

    im still working on it ...I can't decided what kind paint to use this time ,

    • @JaysDMC
      @JaysDMC  2 года назад

      I had great luck with what I have shown in this video. Still holding up well. I just put a 2nd coat down this year to touch up scuffs and scrapes.

  • @walterlangkowski4723
    @walterlangkowski4723 3 года назад +1

    You ever herd of a diamabrush? Life saver no sanding required

    • @JaysDMC
      @JaysDMC  3 года назад +1

      I never heard of it but thank you for bringing this to my attention. I learned something!

  • @jeffosberg3290
    @jeffosberg3290 3 года назад

    You're deck looks great. What is the exact color of the brown you used?

    • @JaysDMC
      @JaysDMC  3 года назад +3

      Thank you!
      Behr calls this color Chocolate. It held up quite well too! I was just looking at the deck last night. The snow has all melted. After a good hosing down or light powerwash, it should look new again.

  • @kimbarnard6369
    @kimbarnard6369 3 года назад +1

    Is the new paint slippery when wet?

    • @JaysDMC
      @JaysDMC  3 года назад +1

      I wouldn't say its slippery. Definitely doesn't have the grip that the Deckover had though.

  • @maldo72
    @maldo72 3 года назад +1

    I am going through the same thing removing the deck over crap how is the new paint holding up?

    • @JaysDMC
      @JaysDMC  3 года назад +1

      Holding up VERY VERY VERY well. I'm happy to report this. The only thing I'm seeing are parts where I used deck filler are peeling a bit. I think I'm going to pick that all out and refill / sand / paint again. Just in a few spots though. Over all the desk still looks great.

  • @michaeljohnson7951
    @michaeljohnson7951 2 года назад

    How did it hold up?

  • @crazyguyquestionseverythin5084
    @crazyguyquestionseverythin5084 3 года назад

    How did you strip paint on banisters ?

    • @JaysDMC
      @JaysDMC  3 года назад

      I didn't. For some reason they never blistered or held water so I just roughed them up a bit with a sander and painted right over them

  • @Palmer5
    @Palmer5 3 года назад

    Deck looks great, thanks for sending me the link. I made the mistake of doing the spindles and railings all with the deck over. Same deal, it stuck great on them. Did you sand down all the spindles? That’s the one thing I’m not looking forward to.

    • @JaysDMC
      @JaysDMC  3 года назад

      Thanks. I did not sand them down actually. Like you said, the product stuck like glue on them so I felt it was no hard to leave it on there.

  • @briankoneczny1039
    @briankoneczny1039 2 года назад

    Did you paint right over the deckover on the handrails?

  • @dianacervantes5564
    @dianacervantes5564 4 года назад

    Currently redoing my parents deck and it’s been a nightmare trying to strip the deck over that was done 2 years ago. I even used the Behr wood stain stripper + a power washer and it’s just not coming out. I’ve been at it for 3 days now. May have to result to a scrapper and/or electric sander/buffer. Any tips on how to strip it faster?

    • @JaysDMC
      @JaysDMC  4 года назад

      Honestly, you're never going to get 100% off. Not without taking the wood down with a sander. I got 95% of it off and retained with a fully non transparent stain. It covered any parts that had left over deck over.

  • @Aaron-bn7ns
    @Aaron-bn7ns 2 года назад

    What color stain you use?

    • @JaysDMC
      @JaysDMC  2 года назад

      I believe Behr calls it Chocolate. It's a nice color that ages well.

  • @patrickg1695
    @patrickg1695 4 года назад +4

    The same thing is going to happen unfortunately. As soon as that paint gets any cracks moisture will get in and never evaporate. Please take it from me, use a semi transparent stain.

    • @joanchantler2498
      @joanchantler2498 3 года назад

      I agree. I've used both products and don't like either. Both peel.

  • @shine8216
    @shine8216 4 года назад

    So how long do you think the new paint can last?

  • @davondd
    @davondd 3 года назад +1

    How is this crap still on the market

    • @JaysDMC
      @JaysDMC  3 года назад +1

      It's criminal!

  • @JRod87
    @JRod87 2 года назад

    My deck over deck is in bad shape too, anyone have experience using a power washer to effectively remove deck over paint? I will try that first then move on to the tedious method of sanding and scraping. 😭😭😭

    • @JaysDMC
      @JaysDMC  2 года назад +1

      Sorry to say, power washing wasn't very effective for me. It got the loose bits up but the stuff that bonded to the wood really needed to be scraped and sanded

    • @JRod87
      @JRod87 2 года назад

      @@JaysDMC Bummer! Thanks for the info

    • @JaysDMC
      @JaysDMC  2 года назад

      @@JRod87 my pleasure. Hope you find it helpful.

  • @jacktaichi
    @jacktaichi 4 года назад

    Did you ask Behr for compensation? I'm going thru the same saga.

    • @JaysDMC
      @JaysDMC  4 года назад

      Naa, i was told there was some type of class action suite at one point. Didn't bother. Not sure how true it is but a rep at Home Depot said "good luck, unless you had this professionally done, Behr won't pay any mind to you". Sounds about right.

    • @jimkarasu7631
      @jimkarasu7631 3 года назад

      Yes there is a class action suit from 2018, still waiting to get reimbursed.

    • @johnkaram2519
      @johnkaram2519 2 года назад

      I applied deckover back in the summer of 2017. Within 1.5-2 years, faced the same issue as everyone with it peeling in multiple places. Last week I called Behr customer support about this failing product They first said they were going to send me for free a new and improved version of deckover product. I said uh no. I asked for compensation for this failed product ( I still had my digital Home Depot receipt in my gmail, I don't delete anything). The rep didn't balk. They are reimbursing for the two 5 gallons buckets, $316! Plus they are reimbursing me for 2 day rentals of sander plus up to $50 in sanding pads. May go the route of diamabrush vs. orbital sander. Not sure yet. I did start stripping using a power washer which removed some but there are stubborn spots that is going to require sanding.

  • @gzoppi3877
    @gzoppi3877 4 года назад +1

    So this is what you do when you can’t make travel vids !

    • @JaysDMC
      @JaysDMC  4 года назад +2

      HAHAHA, unfortunately you're correct! Need to keep myself useful!
      I'd much rather be on an airplane right now! I promise you that.

  • @AndYetHereWeAre
    @AndYetHereWeAre 3 года назад +2

    My man...you used a Behr product that caused you heartache and then you covered your hard work with MORE BEHR SOLID STAIN FROM HOME DEPOT? Never paint your deck. Good luck stripping that Behr solid in 2 years when it cracks. I do deck restoration professionally and I can tell you with 100% certainty that you'll be in the same boat in 2-3 years.
    If you 100% need to solid PPG PROLUXE or FLOOD is the best out there. Everything else should be stained with oil based stain.
    Good luck brother.

    • @GarageSaleMonster
      @GarageSaleMonster 3 года назад

      but stain will not help with splinters, right??

    • @jrm163
      @jrm163 Год назад

      Which oil-based stain product would you recommend please? Thanks!

    • @AndYetHereWeAre
      @AndYetHereWeAre Год назад

      @@jrm163 I'd start with Armstrong Clark... but yeah in a pinch you can use ready seal from Lowes.

  • @jungbechtospk40
    @jungbechtospk40 2 года назад

    Splendidly to see woodglut have new plans which helped me save some money and energy for this construction.