A Brief Retrospective | TV-Show Season 2 VS Comic Book Differences Explained | The Walking Dead

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  • Опубликовано: 10 ноя 2024

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  • @Koroto
    @Koroto  3 года назад +220

    Warm welcomes to all the new people coming across this video! Just a quick note - the season 3 video is very much a work in progress and is coming soonᵀᴹ. As some of you may know - the prison arc is a doozey in the adaption compared to the comic. We'll also have to move to the original B&W comic, since the deluxe edition releases won't be able to keep up, but regardless - expect the first part of season 3 to drop sometime soon! 👍

    • @DoofusNewsReport
      @DoofusNewsReport 3 года назад +10

      Awesome! You've done such a great job here. Can't wait for more of these!

    • @scottyrobertson3
      @scottyrobertson3 3 года назад +5

      Yay!! Loved the last one

    • @deinvater7214
      @deinvater7214 2 года назад +1

      These videos are great, good work man. One teeny tiny thing, it’s ‘adaptation’, not ‘adaption’. Given how often the word crops up, thought it worth highlighting.

    • @lookslikejambles5687
      @lookslikejambles5687 2 года назад +2

      I was so going to make a channel doing exactly this but I didnt make it in time much respect for doing it first korot

    • @michaelkivett8772
      @michaelkivett8772 2 года назад +1

      Krotos, you’re awesome! Love your videos and appreciate all the time you put into them! Great job my guy! 😮

  • @Salt-UNDER_LINE
    @Salt-UNDER_LINE 3 года назад +1326

    Lori: "You should kill Shane."
    Rick: _kills Shane_
    Lori: _surprised Pikachu face_

    • @gumbiman3350
      @gumbiman3350 3 года назад +69

      Lori is upset during that scene only really after Rick tells her that Carl put him down after he turned, which is a much more understandable reaction.

    • @KooChi1
      @KooChi1 3 года назад +51

      @@gumbiman3350 yeah but she acted distant for quite some time. Then expected when SHE was ready to "forgive" or whatever he should have been also and that wasn't the case. Guess they did that so fans would be feed up and not go crazy about her death?

    • @NikkiRen
      @NikkiRen 2 года назад +38

      Oooohhh I hated that woman with a passion! I STILL hate that woman and get annoyed every time I see the actresses face in anything else🤣
      Some actors play horrible characters that I love to hate, and still look forward to seeing them in something else (Cersei, the Governor, Shane), And others, *coughs Lori* I just can’t.
      Was she this horrible in the comics? If so then great job, Sarah! 😁 Job well done!

    • @gumbiman3350
      @gumbiman3350 2 года назад +8

      @@NikkiRen If anything, the TV version of Lori had more to her character than the comic version.

    • @thescandinavian2487
      @thescandinavian2487 2 года назад +3

      @@gumbiman3350 The comic original*

  • @azrasashima3733
    @azrasashima3733 3 года назад +1027

    RIP herschel and his unlimited ammo shotgun from the season 2 finale.

    • @8bitakvids
      @8bitakvids 2 года назад +13

      🤣

    • @ianpurcell7026
      @ianpurcell7026 2 года назад +57

      I have annoyed my gf so many times by stating the capacity of firearms in zombie movies/shows

    • @coolveislive
      @coolveislive 2 года назад +31

      If he had it in the mid season finale of 4 he would have lived 😂

    • @HistoryandReviews
      @HistoryandReviews 2 года назад +13

      I farted

    • @coolveislive
      @coolveislive 2 года назад +4

      @Shin Burning Godzilla no

  • @busiestnebula5186
    @busiestnebula5186 2 года назад +425

    Lori has a bad habit of directly telling rick to do something bad or Atleast hinting at it and then acting like hes an unhinged monster and she had nothing to do with it once he goes through with what she told him

    • @michaelkivett8772
      @michaelkivett8772 2 года назад +30

      Absolutely agree. Totally hypocritical partner. Been there. Seen that. Lived that 😂

    • @GerSanRiv
      @GerSanRiv Год назад +13

      Modern lady Mcbeth, got it.

    • @greasyboi271
      @greasyboi271 Год назад +14

      Lori was in my opinion the worst character in the show.

    • @gagetaylor192
      @gagetaylor192 Год назад +11

      Lori was why Shane became so unhinged in the first place. Shane could have been a very good long term character.

    • @josephmatthews7698
      @josephmatthews7698 Год назад +1

      Kirkman has always struggled to write women well. They are either awful(Lori, carol), tropey(spear chick, Michonne) or good but basically dudes (alpha, Angela, Maggie.)
      He's gotten better and I can totally enjoy pulp like Michonne or brochicks like Angela but when hes bad HES REALLY BAD.
      None of the guys he writes are that bad because he fleshes them out and gives them motivations and character - even the villains. But women like Lori and Carol throw fire on the flames, act like wild cards and do ridiculous crap because ??? Plot I guess?

  • @lauriemoon7543
    @lauriemoon7543 Год назад +63

    There's definitely a lot you can read into Shane's appearance throughout the whole season, he shaves his hair, his bruising and cuts become more prominent and finally he smashes his own head to bleed over his mouth. Throughout the season in tandem with his downfall he gradually changes to look more and more like a walker as if he's dead. So when he reanimates there is no change and just like when he was alive, he always had to be put down, perfect villain arc

  • @jerrym1218
    @jerrym1218 2 года назад +248

    I actually liked Darabont’s writing of Season’s One and Two.
    Yeah it can be slow for some people, but we get to learn more about the characters that we all grew to love and respect.

    • @BiggestPrimusFan
      @BiggestPrimusFan 2 года назад +20

      Season 1 & 2 were some of my favorite

    • @jerrym1218
      @jerrym1218 2 года назад +18

      @@BiggestPrimusFan heck yeah, the stakes seemed why higher, and things seemed more realistic.

    • @michaelkivett8772
      @michaelkivett8772 2 года назад +10

      AMC did him bad tbh 💯

    • @HistoryandReviews
      @HistoryandReviews 2 года назад

      @@jerrym1218nothing realistic about DEAD people walking

    • @dashikashi4734
      @dashikashi4734 Год назад +5

      Darabont leaned too hard into writing stereotypes for characters instead of actually writing characters.

  • @gamewriteeye769
    @gamewriteeye769 3 года назад +339

    I've been looking for examination style videos like these on the walking dead for years now. Much appreciated for stumbling on your channel! Keep up the great work!

    • @Koroto
      @Koroto  3 года назад +24

      Thank you for the kind words, glad you enjoyed it! :)

    • @gamewriteeye769
      @gamewriteeye769 3 года назад +4

      @@Koroto Ur Welcome :)

    • @TPG_Plagues
      @TPG_Plagues 2 года назад +2

      Yea I've been looking for a good comic/show comparison as well. I found a few prior to finding this but they weren't very good

  • @mullaoslo
    @mullaoslo 3 года назад +498

    Man imagine if they had Shane just leave so Jon could go do punisher, and then have him showing up with the saviors and THEN have Carl kill him (insted of killing Carl..)

    • @JonnyBanana21
      @JonnyBanana21 3 года назад +60

      Holy shit this would be crazy

    • @lucasdolding6924
      @lucasdolding6924 2 года назад +30

      Well his Daredevil and Punisher stuff was 2016-19 which was when the entire Savior storyline took place so he'd have done them alongside each other if this was the case.

    • @mullaoslo
      @mullaoslo 2 года назад +18

      @@lucasdolding6924 negan would still be the main villain so he wouldn't have to do that many episodes.. It could be done

    • @lucasdolding6924
      @lucasdolding6924 2 года назад +18

      @@mullaoslo Yeah ofc Negan would remain the main villain. Shane could’ve been like Merle to the Governor or Simon to Negan. He just probably wouldn’t have been around as much as they were.

    • @mullaoslo
      @mullaoslo 2 года назад +13

      @@lucasdolding6924 half a season worth of episodes to have Rick and Shane meet, discuss whats happened, telling him about Lori and mabye because of that Shane tries to lay claim on Judith , having Rick say some bad ass shit to Shane about having no Idea who he's Fucking with now.. Have battle almost to the death and have Carl shoot Shane before he landed a killing blow on Rick, mabye he shoots him in the gut first to have some awesome final words ...

  • @donutdog1937
    @donutdog1937 2 года назад +106

    I think I like the deleted version of Shane’s death where he had Rick before Rick killed him and when Shane came back Rick tried using Shane’s gun just for it to click empty and Carl is the one to put Shane down

    • @DCMill
      @DCMill Год назад +14

      Yes. I have seen the video where Jon Bernthal talked about this and I love that version it has a bigger impact and still is the version that I like to consider

    • @slaymyface1357
      @slaymyface1357 Год назад +6

      It was only pitched by jon himself to the writers it was never in the script

    • @karengoldenthal2889
      @karengoldenthal2889 Год назад +1

      Yes, its clear from the Video, very it was Only Jon Bernthal's Wish, Didn't happen!

  • @bobbyhill6828
    @bobbyhill6828 2 года назад +143

    So in fear the walking dead, troy says the smell of the dead keeps away walkers. Maybe the farm was safe for so long because of the large number of walkers they kept in the barn. This is kind of supported by the fact that a horde attacks soon after they're killed, but could always just be a coincidence. (Either way I personally don't think the writers had this in mind all the way back then. Cool tie-in tho)

    • @miatamatt7105
      @miatamatt7105 2 года назад +9

      Interesting point

    • @maryammenalagha8989
      @maryammenalagha8989 2 года назад +23

      The herd attacked because they heard a helicopter (same one the governor and his crew found) going towards the farm, and past it ofc.

    • @bobbyhill6828
      @bobbyhill6828 2 года назад +3

      @@maryammenalagha8989 oh right, i completely forgot about that. Its been a minute. Maybe it still did kept them safe before

    • @andrewp1653
      @andrewp1653 2 года назад +11

      Project zomboid helicopter event be like

    • @pacrat190
      @pacrat190 Год назад +10

      @@maryammenalagha8989 also doesn’t help how much they shot their guns before the herd showed (killing the barn walkers)

  • @tenpintsofsundrop
    @tenpintsofsundrop 2 года назад +41

    I don't know if it's intentional or not, but I like how Dale's character continues to wear summer clothing (his classic floral shirt and bucket hat) while everyone else begins transitioning into wearing jackets and sweaters and heavier clothing for fall. It shows how Dale's character is not going to "change with the seasons" - how he is stubborn in his ways and believes that they can stay the same morally even though the world is changing into a lawless place, and how he's not meant to last.

  • @-UnknownHero
    @-UnknownHero 3 года назад +71

    The fight scene between Rick and Shane is the best one in all of film for me. The choreography was good, but it was the build up. For more than a season, they were clashing, especially the episodes before there was a clear amount of tension in the air. And this moment was when it became unloaded.
    Btw, great video

  • @Silverman160Zero
    @Silverman160Zero 3 года назад +189

    Tho these take a lot of time and research, and that your currently busy with an internship, I still want to say thank you for creating such a info-packed yet enjoyable video! Plus hearing your own thoughts and opinions adds a bit more flavor to this as well.
    So all in all, another great vid!

    • @TravJBarnes
      @TravJBarnes 3 года назад +4

      I love your take on the first two seasons

  • @B_Man99
    @B_Man99 3 года назад +74

    4 weeks later and you uploaded another monster of a video, at almost 50 minutes the amount of dedication you put into this is simply amazing. Very through breakdown of not only the surface that the audience sees but the behind the scenes of all the issues the writers went thru.
    All the small details and call backs that you are able to point out are amazing, there are so many small scenes that have multiple meanings that you touch on that I appreciate. I’ve briefly read the comics but after hearing the comparison I now have to get my hands on it.

    • @Koroto
      @Koroto  3 года назад +12

      Certainly recommend picking up the books, while there are some points later where the TV-series emulates them 1-to-1, they in most cases become more and more different as time goes on.

  • @ur_bakeneko
    @ur_bakeneko 2 года назад +46

    i never understood why anyone would bother getting the walker out of the well in the first place. like- are y’all seriously gonna drink that water 🤨

    • @oddeyes9413
      @oddeyes9413 Год назад +11

      Same. I was like: *"Bro, just leave it. You're not gonna drink it."*

  • @soorenafirouzabadi633
    @soorenafirouzabadi633 3 года назад +88

    I can't imagine how much time and research is put into these videos, but I want to thank you for this. There's so much I've learned about the show that I didn't know before. Also it seems kinda sad that from the very beginning the show had issues that unfortunately were not fully resolved and led to the clusterfuck we got later on.

  • @Rifi77
    @Rifi77 3 года назад +132

    Season 2 was done really well considering the budget they had. I agree some parts seemed too long and boring, but we got a lot of character development this season. I also like what the show did with the Sophia storyline. It sucks she had to die, but her death definitely shaped Carol, Rick and Daryl into the characters they are now. I also didn't care about Comic Sophia at all

    • @gfilmer7150
      @gfilmer7150 2 года назад +8

      If only Season 2 were shorter (8 episodes minimum/11 episodes maximum), it would be far more appreciated

    • @joebeast15
      @joebeast15 2 года назад +9

      @@gfilmer7150 it is funny cause it remember reading the IMDB message boards (back when they were still around) while this season was airing and almost EVERYONE hated this season and talked about how bad it was. Now ten plus years later people are like “yeah it was good actually”. Funny how time changes perspectives on things

    • @gfilmer7150
      @gfilmer7150 2 года назад +2

      @@joebeast15 It has its ups and downs

    • @crazemate
      @crazemate 2 года назад +1

      Well when you have your budget cut down while trying to make a show good, seems difficult. I wish they gave darabont more of a chance.

    • @gots0359
      @gots0359 Год назад +3

      @@joebeast15 time passing makes everything look better. 10 years from now on we will call TWD masterpiece despite all the bad writing later. We even call Fallout 4 a great game, despite how hated it was when it released and I still hold that opinion true.

  • @mullaoslo
    @mullaoslo 3 года назад +65

    Season 2 is very good.. I get it, it was rough when we where watching week by week and had our first mid season break as well but when you binge it, its a very good slow paced classic zombie tale ending with the big shootout

  • @samturner6061
    @samturner6061 3 года назад +27

    31:00 i loved Hershel's look toward Rick after he'd killed both the guys. It's like he believed 100% at that moment that Rick was the right guy to let stay at the farm.

  • @TVthePunisher
    @TVthePunisher 3 года назад +17

    33:30 that Walker ends up being apart of the intro around season 5-6 onward for a bit too. Previous seasons were more about showing each location the characters had went through on their way to the prison and for seasons 3/4 the prison was the final 2/3 images before the title card.
    Just a fun fact I guess about that particular Walker.

  • @theKrabs_11
    @theKrabs_11 2 года назад +108

    Daryl: “I’m don’t looking for people”
    Daryl season 9: *literally camping in the woods for months trying to find Rick*

  • @spectre1004
    @spectre1004 2 года назад +92

    The well walker is just dumb. What’s the point in getting the walker out of the well when the water is already contaminated?

    • @Getawaycarll
      @Getawaycarll 2 года назад +7

      Right I was just screaming at them while watching that scene "what's the point? " Haha

    • @weelzneal4768
      @weelzneal4768 Год назад +1

      To prevent it from spreading

    • @spectre1004
      @spectre1004 Год назад +6

      @@weelzneal4768 ITS ALREADY SPREAD. The walker has been soaking in and contaminating the water

    • @weelzneal4768
      @weelzneal4768 Год назад +2

      @@spectre1004 Ok think of it like this, think it'll be easier to clean a small turd or a big turd

    • @spectre1004
      @spectre1004 Год назад +2

      @@weelzneal4768 but it’s already contaminated

  • @Thatbasedcat
    @Thatbasedcat 2 года назад +25

    I’m surprised they just didn’t make the Tank Zombie story a webisode series back when those were a thing. Would’ve made us hyped for a season premiere which was their intention.

  • @EJPugh1331
    @EJPugh1331 3 года назад +23

    Thank you so much for this. Your love of the series comes through. Please keep doing these. As a comic and show fan this is perfection.

  • @Kaden10
    @Kaden10 2 года назад +17

    Jon Bernthal is just amazing, and I was hyped when he was cast as Frank Castle, I hope he comes back to play the character.

    • @gots0359
      @gots0359 Год назад +1

      given what direction MCU is going right now I don't see in any shape or form Jon coming back as Punisher, since then the Punisher will not have wicked sense of justice and kill everyone on the way but teach them lessons on misogyny or smth like that idk

    • @HamazuraGOD
      @HamazuraGOD Год назад

      Good news, he's coming back as The Punisher!

  • @dlord96301
    @dlord96301 3 года назад +39

    I do understand why they killed off dale there given the circumstances. HOWEVER I absolutely love his ending in the comic so seeing how he dies in the TV show rubs me the wrong way now

    • @crazemate
      @crazemate 2 года назад +15

      He was friends with Frank Darabont, If Frank didn’t leave his directing spot then we could have seen more of Dale, maybe he could have been killed by the governor.

    • @karengoldenthal2889
      @karengoldenthal2889 Год назад +1

      Dale was Supposed to live, to die as "Tainted Meat" in Season 5.
      Jeffrey DeMunn (Dale) quit the Show TWD, in Protest & Loyalty to his Friend, Frank Darabont, getting Fired.

  • @iamcasihart
    @iamcasihart Год назад +9

    Goddamn, Andrew Lincoln is a LEGEND. He made millions fall in love with Rick Grimes. He’s been so missed. I hope the Rick/Michonne spin-off is what we all deserve and hope for. In the story timeline, Rick has been gone for nearly a decade! I am bummed that they didn’t find a way to bring him back in the final season, but looking at the final season, I don’t even know how Rick would fit. It also seems absurd to me that Michonne would willingly abandon her children for YEARS.

  • @moisturater
    @moisturater 3 года назад +34

    funny how AMC didn’t want TWD to be an anthology but now it’s getting an anthology series

  • @Taspens
    @Taspens 3 года назад +114

    Darabont was such a good director for the show. Wish we coulda seen his vision play out. Now the show is just a blatant cash grab

    • @LudicrousChris
      @LudicrousChris 3 года назад +48

      Darabont was definitely the most creative, ambitious, and passionate director the show has had

    • @jerrym1218
      @jerrym1218 2 года назад +25

      If Darabont was still showrunner, Carl would have never died.
      Yet, Carol might have died in Season 3, and Andrea might still be alive too.
      There are little things here and there that I think may or may not have been happening throughout the TV show if Darabont was still showrunner.

    • @Taspens
      @Taspens 2 года назад +16

      @@jerrym1218 I enjoyed how the first season felt like a movie. Then the show movies to a more generic tv show feel

    • @jerrym1218
      @jerrym1218 2 года назад +9

      @@Taspens Yeah I get you on that.
      The first season felt very cinematic.

    • @PostCrisisRH
      @PostCrisisRH 2 года назад +8

      @@jerrym1218 What you listed doesn’t seem that bad. I can take Carol dying if I can get Andrea and Carl.

  • @Raad187KO
    @Raad187KO 3 года назад +104

    Season 2 really was good, the nebraska scene is what made me a life long fan of the show

    • @ryman1933
      @ryman1933 2 года назад +5

      Too bad the show became trash after like season 5 and has been terrible since

    • @Raad187KO
      @Raad187KO 2 года назад +4

      @@ryman1933 i enjoyed up to the end of S6, still watch it, but those were the days

    • @handsomeman9433
      @handsomeman9433 2 года назад +1

      @@ryman1933 lol, the only bad seasons were 7 and 8, 9 10 11 have revived the show it’s amazing

    • @ryman1933
      @ryman1933 2 года назад +7

      @@handsomeman9433 I highly disagree. The new seasons are just filler tv drama and have no significance to furthering the plot most the time. When they stopped trying to be even slightly similar to the comics the quality dropped hard.

    • @handsomeman9433
      @handsomeman9433 2 года назад +2

      @@ryman1933 yeah, I couldn’t say the quality dropped, I just think it gave itself a different soul than the original which should have been kept around more. I mean it’s still a very well crafted series. Just keeps you remembering about how different things are compared to the past.

  • @greatrieck
    @greatrieck 5 месяцев назад +1

    I love the moment after he kills big guy Tony that he waits and considers firing another shot, foreshadowing the fact Rick knows about the fact that when you die you turn unless your brain is destroyed. That is great foreshadowing, especially if you don't know what is going to be revealed about the virus like most.

  • @GojkoStojanovicII
    @GojkoStojanovicII 2 года назад +9

    As some one who took film class for 2 years I’m loving these in depth breakdowns and comparisons, good content man 👌🏻

  • @banyanrolphez1747
    @banyanrolphez1747 Год назад +5

    I always looked at Lori's reaction to Rick as less about Shane's Death, and more so in Ricks change. His reasoning on Shane Dogging him, and that we wanted him dead. This is in contrast to who Rick has been, and as we see in season 3 and Loris guilt I think she's equally horrified at feeling that she pushes the situation there. She's not angry that Rick killed Shane, she's in shock and despair at what they've become

    • @fara2999
      @fara2999 Год назад

      Yes! Honestly I think people critise Lori too much and nitpick her every expression to find something to complain about. She wasn't perfect but she tried her best to support Rick. The fact that she was shocked that Rick killed his closest friend doesn't make her evil!

  • @blakematthews6374
    @blakematthews6374 3 года назад +19

    I watch A LOT of walking dead videos and this was seriously a phenomenal video. Great job! Going to watch your other videos now!

  • @EthsterPlays
    @EthsterPlays Год назад +3

    What made Season 2 a little difficult even more, but eventually worked out, is that the owners of the Hershals Farm House did not want any walkers within 20-50ft. I don't remember how much exactly, but when doing a tour of Woodbury, and the outside of Alexandria a few years ago during the filming of season 10 or 11, the tour guide told us that the farms owners never let anyone swear in the house, or any Walkers near the house, so the barn was forced, and walkers show up less because of the main place they need to be.
    They filmed the fall of the farm on a set that was just the front deck and walls of the farm house

  • @jamesbounds
    @jamesbounds 2 года назад +10

    Seeing this makes miss a lot of the characters that are gone such as Glenn, Hershel, and Dale.

  • @commander1suv492
    @commander1suv492 3 года назад +21

    Glen and Maggie got really pushed back after season 3-4.

  • @taxedtwodeath2887
    @taxedtwodeath2887 Год назад +6

    i want to call out, during the bar scene in "Nebraska" rick killed fat tony walks over and still put a round in the head, knowing the whole "we are all infected" after the fact it shows the concept he does know.

  • @ShelobYT
    @ShelobYT 2 года назад +8

    If Shane was leader, everyone in the group who has been left behind at one point or another due to circumstances, only to later be rescued by the group, would either no longer be with the group, or they’d be dead. We all know Shane wouldn’t risk anything to save anyone (besides Lori and Carl). That being said; eventually Shane’s group would get whittled down to just the three of them

  • @justbread4570
    @justbread4570 2 года назад +12

    a scene i really liked that not enough people talk about is the one where hershel and glenn talked about where their families came from

  • @TPG_Plagues
    @TPG_Plagues 2 года назад +5

    Wow. I didn't know about everything Frank said. I totally understand him being upset , insanely upset even. But that was a bit much.

    • @omensoffate
      @omensoffate 2 года назад

      Did it hurt your fweelings

  • @robnewsome2407
    @robnewsome2407 2 года назад +13

    I absolutely love that letter by Darabond and he was absolutely right about everything, I'm glad he eventually won that lawsuit. I just watched that episode again, thank you

  • @theconckcouncil9248
    @theconckcouncil9248 2 года назад +18

    Bruh Carl in the comics was bout that action

  • @TreyTiptonMedia
    @TreyTiptonMedia 3 года назад +10

    I watched through this whole video and assumed it had at least 100k views. Then I looked. Keep working bro. You earned a sub and can’t wait for season 3 vid

  • @vizzable2676
    @vizzable2676 2 года назад +3

    dude your retrospective videos are so underated seriously well done

  • @ExcludedGamer
    @ExcludedGamer 3 года назад +4

    Hell yeah, this came out much faster than I expected, nice work as always man

    • @Koroto
      @Koroto  3 года назад +4

      Thanks a ton

  • @shauni8806
    @shauni8806 2 года назад +3

    This was recommended for me and I’m glad it was! I haven’t stopped watching since. I’ve been a huge fan since day one! Haven’t not ever read the comic I love seeing the two compared. Loving this content. Thank you so much!

  • @destinnavarro2564
    @destinnavarro2564 Год назад +5

    My favorite part is when carls pulls his gun out yells it’s Carlon time then shots Shane

  • @lukaslambs5780
    @lukaslambs5780 2 года назад +10

    Such excellent analysis! Makes me sad but also super happy to remember how awesome this show used to be! Even it’s cons are not so bad and the pros are just amazing.

  • @lollyberry007
    @lollyberry007 2 года назад +19

    I feel like Lori behaves the way she does in the finale for several reasons:
    1. She knew Shane would have to die sooner or later, because it became increasingly obvious that he was unhinged. But hearing her husband say point-blank that he killed his best friend was still a shock. (Also the group had JUST had a conversation about if it was right to kill Randall, a stranger, and now Rick has killed the man who was like a brother to him)
    2. She was horrified when she found out that Carl was involved, because OBVIOUSLY. Her 11/12 year old son has just had to put down and undead Shane (and Shane was close to Carl as well, like a mentor figure to him)
    3. If you watch her body language after this, you can see that she is still shocked and scared at the sudden change in Rick’s personality and demeanor. She holds Carl as if protecting him from Rick’s anger and coldness. If you were in a situation like this and watched your spouse become a completely different person, it would be pretty scary too.
    4. After the 8-month time jump, we can see at the beginning of S3 that’s she’s tried to reconnect with Rick, but he continues to shut her out. But Lori continues to support his decisions, and be fiercely protective & loving of him and her son.
    Maybe they could have done better developing her character and her relationship with Rick, but Lori is not as bad a character/person as a lot of fans made her out to be.

    • @NikkiRen
      @NikkiRen 2 года назад +7

      I like your take on it and wish I felt the same way. I can’t lie, I was happy when she died because I hated her guts.
      1. She knew Shane was unhinged and pretty much told Rick to kill him, yet practically punished Rick for doing so.
      2. I could Kiiind of understanding her being upset about Coral putting down a dead Shane because no child should be forced to kill anyone. However, Coral made his choice, saving his dad, and Coral wasn’t as traumatized by it as one would have expected. Guess he’d already seen enough death so Hey🤷🏽‍♀️
      3. Her being shocked by Rick’s change in demeanor was sooo uncalled for. Especially knowing how Shane rolled. I don’t recall seeing Rick going off on Coral to the point where anyone thought he would be capable of hurting his own child. She was just being mad extra.
      4. As far as her trying to reconnect with Rick, she wasn’t trying to be a single mom🤣. I kid LOL, but for real, she treated Rick like isht for doing what needed to be done, and had no idea who her kids father was. And she was incapable of taking care of/protecting herself or her son from other humans OR walkers. Just useless. She needed Rick way more than he needed her. She made me love Carol all the more♥️
      I guess I was just over her character and her utter uselessness.
      She couldn’t fight, she couldn’t shoot, crashed a car with no other real distractions, she smashed the homie and got pregnant during a Zombie Apocalypse. And let’s not forget she constantly failed at her 1 job.
      One job, Lori! Keep an eye on your son. I swear, the one job that she had she refused to do. So she effectively got Dale killed. Oooohhh I hated her guts🤣

    • @nathang6376
      @nathang6376 2 года назад +2

      @@NikkiRen - You can only blame her for Dale's death because you are in the audience and have an overarching view of the show. Lori is in among the characters, and doesn't have the level of awareness we do. That's why a particular character becomes the target of an audience's overwhelming hatred and rage, like yours. We see how their actions spread to other parts of the show, but they can't. Also, we have the advantage of being able to revisiting episodes, effectively reliving the experience over and over again. The characters can only live it once, and they can never take back their decisions.
      By the time Season 3 arrives, it's clear that Lori's found more ways to be useful. In previous seasons she carried out housekeeping tasks, as she and a few others were trying to preserve some semblance of civility and domestication in the quarry and farm. By the third season, however, she's become more of a survivor, and she helps draw walkers to the fence to distract them, she revives Hershel, and she sacrifices herself for an unborn Judith. Whatever she might have done before, and however useless she may have seemed to the group in the past, I think her death demonstrated her priorities perfectly.

  • @garyella1301
    @garyella1301 Год назад +4

    Dale dies in the comic like bob's character does in series 5. As the tv series progresses you just get moments where it vaguely mirrors.

  • @commander_in_kief
    @commander_in_kief 3 года назад +3

    Fantastic retrospective my guy. Just finished the season one retrospective and loved it. Keep up the amazing work.

  • @inarticulatevoid
    @inarticulatevoid 3 года назад +17

    Hey, Considering your recommendation in the previous video, I've picked up the first book which has 12 issues of the comic! and yes, contrary to my experience with the show, the storytelling and characters in the comic are way better imo. Unfortunately i can't buy the rest because they cost a shit ton but i also picked up invincible by kirkman for good measure! I hope you make one these for that show too!

    • @Koroto
      @Koroto  3 года назад +8

      Glad you enjoyed them! But I guess your in the same boat as me then, I ended up reading a lot of them online (which I really don't enjoy doing), because the price was like 1/5 of what they sold for where I live. I'm not exactly sure, but I think they've released the entire series in compendium form as well, which might make them more affordable.
      As for Invincible, yeah, I definitely want to do some content on it once I get around to watching it all the way through!

    • @inarticulatevoid
      @inarticulatevoid 3 года назад +3

      yeah i might end up reading the rest online too. this is nice read along with recap of the show. Do you have an instagram or twitter where you can update the issues you will discussing in the future videos? I'll make sure to catch up to that point before watching these so as not get spoiled.

    • @Koroto
      @Koroto  3 года назад +6

      Twitter is the best place to keep up with everything I am up to :)

  • @GopalSingh01
    @GopalSingh01 2 года назад +9

    Only if Rick held Sofia climb a tree that way walkers couldn't get to her. She would had been saved by that way.

  • @tysonbird2308
    @tysonbird2308 3 года назад +3

    Great videos! Looking forward to more content. Love the show and the comics, long time walking dead fan. Always fun to listen to breakdowns and discussions.

  • @tryinmyhardest
    @tryinmyhardest 3 года назад +6

    These videos are fantastic!! Can’t wait to see the rest of the seasons 😁😁 great work

    • @Koroto
      @Koroto  3 года назад +3

      Thank you, glad you enjoyed it! They're definitely coming, but these videos take quite a while to put together 😅

  • @alanluscombe8a553
    @alanluscombe8a553 2 года назад +1

    Rick Glenn and Herschel in the bar and Rick shooting those two guys was my favorite scene in the entire show

  • @statichispanic6344
    @statichispanic6344 Год назад +1

    Awesome video, thanks for putting all the research/background info all in one well put video 🍻

  • @OctoberInkCards
    @OctoberInkCards 2 года назад +2

    I love the cinematography of the show, as you mentioned. The lone walker is such a great shot. The only thing that gets me about it is there appears to be an error in the episode. On the drive to go 18 miles out, Shane looks to the right and sees the walker moving from right to left. When they're on their way back, Shane sees the walker again, but he's not on Shane's left this time, he's still on Shane's right, and still moving from right to left. He should be on the opposite side of the vehicle (Rick's side) in the subsequent sighting of him, as they would be returning and not driving the same direction in each part of the journey.
    The other thing that gets me about the episodes in this part of season 2, is the continuity error with Sofia's death. When Rick shoots her, she drops down and lands on her right side, but when they show her again after the commercial break (easier to notice while binging with no commercials), we see that she's laying on her stomach in a different position. I absolutely LOVE the show, but I notice these types of things in everything, not just TWD, and it doesn't affect my love for the the series at all. I'm just hardwired to notice these things. Great video!

    • @onesaucynougat7471
      @onesaucynougat7471 Год назад

      The biggest one is T-dog teleporting in front of the group on the episode where they kill the barn zombies, it’s hilarious

  • @AlejoConejo-vb8ln
    @AlejoConejo-vb8ln 3 года назад +4

    46:59 HOOOLLLLYYYYY SHIIIIIIET!!! Dude you are a GENIUS! 11 years of watching this show and you just showed me something new I never picked up on! 🙌

    • @Cswyr777
      @Cswyr777 3 года назад +2

      It's actually T-dogs glock, shane buried his

    • @AlejoConejo-vb8ln
      @AlejoConejo-vb8ln 3 года назад +2

      @@Cswyr777 Well yeah but then he un-buried it. How else would he have threatened Rick to raise his gun?

  • @LyoDielle
    @LyoDielle 2 года назад +6

    Just to dump my thoughts here:
    I remember watching the second season and my mom joining me in my living room. We bursted out laughing when the deer scene came up and Carl and the deer got shot. I guess I knew where I got my sense of humor from^^
    And I was sad when Shane died cause I felt like there was potential for him to be in later seasons.
    When Dale died I was offended, tbh. Well, I didn't know that it was the actors idea :/
    My hate for Andrea will never die x'D

  • @Slusheefiend
    @Slusheefiend Год назад +1

    32:47 that is the rizzler stare

  • @Kingofportals
    @Kingofportals Год назад +2

    Scary how Rick killing Sophia led to his massive amount of killing later, as seen with those 2 other survivors in the bar scene. It made him killing Shane a whole lot easier.

  • @diamondsfanj
    @diamondsfanj 3 года назад +3

    Bout to watch! Thank you for this series. Please don’t ever stop 🥺

    • @Koroto
      @Koroto  3 года назад +2

      No worries, the next part is in the works! :)

  • @garrybartlett6853
    @garrybartlett6853 2 года назад +9

    Shane would have got everyone killed with his hot headed rush in attitude...

    • @omensoffate
      @omensoffate 2 года назад

      Nah

    • @garrybartlett6853
      @garrybartlett6853 2 года назад

      @@omensoffate ok

    • @jetmcgee4218
      @jetmcgee4218 2 года назад

      @@omensoffate well yeah it would, rick took a similar approach to Shane's with the saviors and it got a bunch of people killed

  • @Adog00
    @Adog00 3 года назад +2

    These videos are criminally underrated. Keep it up man

  • @hapticshocker2986
    @hapticshocker2986 Год назад +2

    Walking dead s2 is weirdly comforting to watch just the go to season for me sometimes.

  • @deliriushunter
    @deliriushunter 3 года назад +12

    Dude Hershals infinite shotgun is the best thing i swear.
    But in all seriousness season 2 in walking dead is really underrated imo

    • @Koroto
      @Koroto  3 года назад +3

      Haha for sure!
      But yeah, I definitely remember the first part of the season dragging a little on first viewing, but I think that was largely down to the fact that there was a week between episodes. Watching them back to back is an entirely different story - many episodes from season 2 are my favorites just due to how cooked up they are. For example, I don't think the Sophia twist would ever be as impactful if there hadn't been such a long build-up to it that caught even the comic book readers off guard.

    • @deliriushunter
      @deliriushunter 3 года назад +1

      @@Koroto Absolutely agree, on my first watch season 2 Was ok, but on my second watch upon noticing the details and knowing some outcomes, this season was incredible def in the top 5 of walking dead seasons. Man early Walking Dead was so damn good.. just found your channel currently binging through some videos, you have some great stuff here, definitely keep up the great work!
      Ps: Im hyped to see the All out war analysis eventually because i think it was done way better in the comic, while still having great moments in the Show.

  • @chrisrobinson407
    @chrisrobinson407 3 года назад +15

    Okay so I have seen every episode since the very first airing on Halloween 2010 but I did not read the comics, so I did not know that Otis shot Carl thinking he was a walker. The TV adaptation made sense to me because he was clearly aiming at the deer when Carl got hit. So my only question about the comic adaptation is why would Otis have been shooting at Carl if he thought he was a walker, when I was made to believe that Otis and the rest of the people on Hershel's Farm were collecting Walkers and storing them in the barn thinking that they were sick people that could be cured? Doesn't the whole Arc of people thinking that Walkers were just sick and could potentially be cured take away a bit from the reasoning why Otis would have been shooting at Carl AKA a walker?!? Just seems like a weird plot hole but maybe I'm missing something...?

    • @pinkcatacombs
      @pinkcatacombs 2 года назад +2

      Good point hmmmm maybe he shot walkers to weaken them and take them to the barn? Or maybe he shot walkers if they were close to animals that he needed for food? Or maybe Otis wasn’t as into the barn zombs as Hershel so when he was alone he killed them? But that is def a good point. I think it’s interesting he shoot’s Carl instead of the larger “zombies” since Rick and Shane are right there

  • @Blurryjay
    @Blurryjay 2 года назад +1

    Just found these as I started rewatching the series! Awesome work!

  • @alexjeffries3776
    @alexjeffries3776 2 года назад +5

    Not a criticism at all but technically, Rick wasn't holding Shane's personal gun. Shane threw his gun in the woods to hide it when he staged the Randle escape. The gun that Shane had was T-Dog's that he borrowed to go on the hunt for Randle. But yes it's the gun that Shane was going to use to kill Rick. Love the video!

  • @believe8263
    @believe8263 2 года назад +5

    I can't wait until the last episode where Rick wakes up in the hospital
    surrounded by his wife, Shane and Carl and realizes it was all a dream
    while he was in a coma.

  • @inarticulatevoid
    @inarticulatevoid 3 года назад +5

    For anyone who wants to read the comic, it's free (up until volume 10, in my region, India) on kindle if you have a kindle unlimited membership. you can probably binge through it if you can get 30 day free trial from somewhere. As for me I'm fortunate enough to have the membership so I'll read it at my pace. I want krotos to know even if these videos don't get much attention, I am looking forward to experience this with you till the end. Thank you for all the effort you put into these. 👌🏻

  • @jesusiracheta8570
    @jesusiracheta8570 Год назад +2

    I think Shane is as to hotheaded, he would have gotten most of the group killed by trying to attack head on with a the Governor and defiantly would have gotten his head bashed in by Negan if they even would have made it that far. Also Rick was and is a master negotiator, there’s many examples where he was able to negotiate with the villains to either get leverage or get them out of a situation, starting with the vatos, he talked down the situation at first and of course got saved by the grandma but none the less, Rick was a great leader from the start and slowly became more cruel to match the cruelty of the world they were living in.

  • @vikapika4084
    @vikapika4084 2 года назад +1

    binging these before bed, their voice is hella calming

    • @omensoffate
      @omensoffate 2 года назад +1

      Their?

    • @tristanthomas9325
      @tristanthomas9325 Год назад

      @@omensoffatewhen u dont know someones pronouns you address them by “they or them” its simple manners

  • @LeonardJackson
    @LeonardJackson 2 года назад +2

    I think I read/seen somewhere that Michone was played by a crew member. Can't remember where I seen that but I know I seen it more than once

  • @robertdeffenbaugh9004
    @robertdeffenbaugh9004 Год назад +6

    I think the worst part about the show is killing Sofia because her and Carl are together in the comic eventually have a Kid together.
    I do think it was dumb in the comics to kill off Rick though.

    • @MrKing-771
      @MrKing-771 Год назад +8

      I disagree. The comic was Ricks journey from the beginning, and ending with his death made sense. I think it was handled fairly considering the world they live in, Rick doesn't get to go out with a bang, but his impact will be remembered.

  • @kaosdays2146
    @kaosdays2146 Год назад

    Civilian by Wye Oak has been at the top of my playlist for months ever since I heard it on the show such a good song

  • @darioscomicschool1111
    @darioscomicschool1111 2 года назад

    33:58 I guess you are right about the lone walker and Shane.

  • @admiralv3538
    @admiralv3538 3 года назад +12

    You should’ve mentioned that Jon Bernthal had a different death scenario for Shane

  • @Mingeking
    @Mingeking 8 месяцев назад

    I must say my favourite part of s2 is Andrea framing herself the suicide whisperer with Beth

  • @ikoandreas5085
    @ikoandreas5085 3 года назад +3

    Fire video. Cant wait for the next part

  • @SpoonerMan03
    @SpoonerMan03 2 года назад +2

    I stumbled across your channel and man im really glad I did

  • @JohnFKennedy420
    @JohnFKennedy420 Год назад

    You hit it in the head with being in love with TWD soundtrack!! I thought I was the only one who looked up the songs when I heard them in the show 😂 absolutely amazing soundtracks and they fit so well with the scenes they are used in.

  • @iamcasihart
    @iamcasihart Год назад

    Aww, I love Scott Wilson so much, too. I’m still heartbroken that he’s gone. He was a brilliant actor! ❤

  • @tendarkshadows
    @tendarkshadows 3 года назад +2

    this is a great video. deserves more views than it has

  • @Kingofportals
    @Kingofportals Год назад +1

    The deaths of Sophia, Otis, Dale, and Shane all hit very hard in Season 2, very sad to see them all go in such brutal fashion.

  • @BlueDutchCigarillo420
    @BlueDutchCigarillo420 2 года назад +2

    Love this! Keep em coming bro!!

  • @doomraven0
    @doomraven0 Год назад +1

    Loving this video series as a fan of both the novels and the show. For the most part, i love the show a lot more. There just seems to be more depth to the characters in general.
    Regarding season 2 specifically, i thought it was such a beautiful call back, after everything that Carl (and also his parents) goes through, to wake up and immediately he tells his mom about the deer. One of my genuinely favorite moments in a series holding many touching moments.
    Starting with Hershel, really, one thing that i truly love about both versions of TWD is that they treat their religious characters respectfully all throughout and paint them as real people where most TV and movies show anyone who believes in God or references the Bible is an evil hypocrite.

  • @gingercatqueen4368
    @gingercatqueen4368 9 месяцев назад +1

    The first two seasons were SO DAMN GOOD!

    • @1juggman801
      @1juggman801 6 месяцев назад +1

      First 3 and 4 for honorable mention

  • @emeliarosebud
    @emeliarosebud Месяц назад

    I SWEAR TO GOD ABOVE...This is one of my comfort shows (even with all of its issues)! And thus this is my comfort RUclips series to rewatch over and over and im not even kidding that I have fallen in love with Koroto just from the way he speaks. The delivery, emotion...and every time I hear him say "Better than me" when talking about the awkwardness of the beginnings of Maggie and Glenn's relationship...I just scream crying...lol notice me senpai

  • @Jackson.Danielson
    @Jackson.Danielson 2 года назад +1

    How do you not have more subs? Your content is really good! Keep up the grind bro

    • @Koroto
      @Koroto  2 года назад +2

      Thank you for the kinds words, will do! :)

  • @MichaelStrawn_I_am
    @MichaelStrawn_I_am 3 года назад +2

    Awesome video man!!🤩

  • @TayePurks
    @TayePurks 3 года назад +5

    Bruh how you just gonna mention Hershel’s death irl like that? 😭

  • @chattycatty3336
    @chattycatty3336 3 года назад +3

    this guy desearves way more subs

  • @c.w.simpsonproductions1230
    @c.w.simpsonproductions1230 Год назад

    It really says a lot about Vince Gilligan that he was able to maneuver around so many pitfalls during Breaking Bad that others fell into.

  • @gen2886
    @gen2886 2 года назад +1

    phenomenal video...I've been wondering about the differences since I've never read the book

  • @chuuwars
    @chuuwars 7 месяцев назад

    26:35 just a little correction: He actually raises his hand at Lori and threatens to hit her but don't do it. Of course, both actions have the same depth.

  • @electronicfox8153
    @electronicfox8153 2 года назад +1

    these videos are so good and interesting i read the comics and watched the show so its cool to see everything side by side also i love that throught the video there was always the upbeat music mixed with light piano and i coundlnt stop focusing on the piano lol

  • @xvoidxhunter2129
    @xvoidxhunter2129 7 месяцев назад

    I wish Frank Darabont did his own Zombie show unhibited by the Walking Dead franchise. Id love to see what hed do