Hey you know what other tank is tier 8 and has 1,500 HP? The Panther 2! I think that it would be a great idea to do either one replay, or maybe even a whole review. Now I know the Panther might not be the most interesting tank to play, however I think I deserves at least a replay since it is one of the oldest tanks in the game. Besides, being great in good tanks is boring. On the other hand being great in average or "balanced" tanks truly shows someones skill level. Attempt #9
That's what I was scrolling down to say. I can't believe he didn't immediately think of the Lee/Grant tanks. Get the 37mm turret in the game... how amazing would that be!? Might make fewer new players quit before they get to Tier V in the those American and British lines. That was one of my worst early memories of WoT, trying to grind through that POS oversized TD-tank on just the 75mm.
Hopefully this spooky event is some kind of undercover supertest for Wargaming to see how multi-turreted tanks would function in the game and how players react to it... And also: Functional bots for an eventual PvE horde mode!
To be fair, WG was speaking about an PvE mode for WoT before the game was even in alpha. I am suprised that it took them this long to do anything like this, especially with games like Armored Warfare for example showing that PvE a significant amount of the playerbase would want to play on a regular basis. Some may even exclusively. At the very least it helps new or simply bad players to learn mechanics at their own pace without frustrating others and/or themself.
Hopefully not - the secondary gun turrets are broken and do not work, ever, for me and a hell of a lot of others and I am not going to fuck around with my permanent game settings for a week long "special"
The Ratte had a similar profile but it didn't have any cannons to the sides nor the artillery cannons behind the turrets. The crews of the Stein and Fraken are speaking Latin.
Close, but not really correct. The Char 2C was a WW1 French tank that wasn't finished until the war ended, so it was produced only in extremely limited numbers. They were great for their time, but very rapidly became obsolete. The FCM F1 was a late interwar project that had to be canceled while it was still a prototype due to France's surrender to Germany.
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*The moment you realize you'd rather have bots on your team than those 14 tomatoes*
People say the secondary gun on the maus is useless, but I dont really think so, that gun is really usefull for extra dpm against light tanks, glass tanks and arty though xD
For a mission You get 100,000 IGC and 5000XP But XP goes to the tank which we used to complete the task (of course Halloween tank) So to get this XP you need to spend 200 Gold "Reward"
offcourse you need to spent money at WG.....what else did you think .... @WG you get nothing for free....and even when you spent money...they nerf your prem tank ;)
Hi QB, console scrub here. The MTLS-1G14 was released for the xbox one launch of WoT. Then a special christmas varient called Blitsen was released for free for christmas 2016. The tank has one turret but two 37mm auto cannons in it. Each has a 5 round autoloader that deals 40 damage so potential for average of 400 damage a clip. Very over powered in equal tier match making but strugles against tier 4 & 5 because of low penatration. If you ever want to do a full review on the tank i'll lend you my acount as i have both variants.
Being able to fire the main machine gun in your tank would be cool, even if it didn't do damage unless your a low tier, it would just be a cool addition. same with if they added tank head-lights with hd maps
So, the FCM F1 and the Char 2C. Pretty interesting choices on WG's part, and a very good way to demonstrate the functionality behind the two-turret gameplay.
yes, but as a french it's always funny to see people saying char 2C and FCM F1 as char just means tank and both 2C and F1 were built by FCM so it would be more logical to called them FCM 2C and FCM F1 or char 2C and char F1 but anyway it's the same
Wtf ? The weapon the B1 actually uses IS its main gun. The 75mm thingy is just there to send shells on bunker or infantry. The 47mm could take out every tank it met when it fought in 1940.
And none of the tanks it was going to meet in 1940, was going to pen it either. Also, are you going to say the smaller gun, that surviving B1 tank crewmembers themselves didn't even care about losing, is the main gun?? Seriously, they had a documentary talking about different tank battles, one of them was talking about a battle between a WW2 panzer division, and group of B1's. They interviewed some of the crew members that were still alive after all this time, and one of those crews lost their commander and so called "Main gun" during the battle, they continued to fight and took out enemy tanks with that 75 mm, which was more than strong enough to get the job done during the early part of the war when all of the tanks they would meet could be overwhelmed by a B1 bis?? Or need I remind you of Pierre Billote, a french tank commander who's B1 Bis, claimed two panzer 4's, eleven panzer 3's, and two anti tank guns, by itself when he had his crew drive the tank in to break the enemies defenses and to reclaim the town of Stonne?? Oh, and his tank received over 100 hits with no penetrations. Also, in all variations of the Char B1 bis, and all the prototype versions of the tank, that 75 mm, stayed their the entire time.. it was never changed and has always been designated by the French military as it's main armament with the smaller 47 mm gun used by the commander being designated as it's secondary armament meant to protect the B1's greatest weakness, it's side ventilation hatch, which is where the armor of the tank was the weakest apart from the turret which could be lost with minimal damage to the rest of the tank.
I already knew all of that bud. But there is one thing you miss, the 47mm gun is mentionned on the French wikipedia page of the B1 tank and on many other sources as the "weapon that gave the B1 a real anti-tank capacity". I went to the Saumur museum of Armored Vehicles (In france obv) and the 47mm gun is also mentionned as the "main anti-tank weapon" on the info plate in front of the tank. You say that the 75mm could do the job, yes, but what you didn't mention is the absolute horrible maniability of this weapon, that needed the driver to move the entire tank to aim with this cannon, as it was only possible to move it vertically. This required a LOT of efforts to aim it, which was why the B1 had "the task to attack heavily fortified ennemy positions" (source : fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/B1_(char) ) with this gun, and not to got kill tanks with it. So yeah, you misread some things, but the explanation in the end is simple. Anti-tank wise, the 47mm IS the main gun, but to attack bunkers or infantry the 75mm is the main cannon for those specific tasks. Which means that in World of Tanks, the main weapon of the B1 is indeed the 47mm.
Neither the ST-2 nor the Dutch MTLS-1G14 have two turrets, QuickyBaby. Why not take the M3 Lee as an example? By the way, the fact that War Thunder has had multiple turrets for literally 5 full years now (celebrating its birthday with an event as we speak) while WoT did not, is quite surprising.
Uhhh... War thunder had implemented the use of multi turrets and machineguns in 2015 I think (or maybe only machineguns) for the Steel Generals update which added american tanks. So I guess the multi-turret feature was not there from the beginning, at least I do not remember it being present when Ground Forces came out.
At least the KV-1 has a machine gun on the back of its turret. That's been there from the start. Perhaps there is a better example, idk. Not to mention the Maus, but that one does not have a seperate turret as well
I'm not talking about that, I'm talking about the fact that machineguns were not usable before Steel Generals update, so 1.45. I double checked, and the multi-turrets were usable from the beginning of ground forces. So you're right, multi turrets are available in War Thunder since 3 and nearly a half years.
Quick factoid! The MTLS -1G14 (quickybaby just called it MTLS) is available on WoT Console as a tier 3 American Premium tank and a different Christmas variant was given to everyone in 2016 called Blitzen. It has 2 guns not 2 turrets, and on WoT Console it is basically just an auto-loader as each trigger pull fires one gun than the other 5 times which equals 10 total shots. Its a seal clubber tank, basically like the Pz 1 C. It has very bad pen even on its premium rounds (can never pen a T14) but anything with weak armor and low hit pool will get wreaked by it. You can often kill 2 tier 3 tanks in a clip and wait ~13 secs to do it again with INSANE amounts of ammo on backup.
for those who still are figuring it out, the ay to stop Leviathan is to finish off all minions to stock up on medkits AND THEN gang up on him... (ab)using the binocs on the Franken and sniping is complelely viable.
It can happen without any mods installed too, there were times when I was playing that the reticule bugged and stopped moving too and I've stopped bothering with mods.
Honestly I think the best way to use this system is to check out the M3 Lee. Realistically the 37 wouldn't prove much of a threat, but think about the ability to make the tanks with a turret system like the M3 being able to peek hills and do dmg with your turret while waiting for a need to use the 75. Plenty of tanks in the game have more turrets but a M3 Lee (Being the most hated tank in the American's list. The game would be cool mixing this system in)
рандом рандом well the Japanese secondaries for tier 6 to 8 are 7.7 lmgs which could be comparable to the pz 1c's top lmg And the cannons are 47mm high velocity guns, similar to the ones used for the type-91, chi-ha, and chi-he
so it would mean that a lot of heavy tanks that have these lighter or lower Cal Guns would be used to chew of lightly armored targets (for what they were actually used) and the Main Guns would be their Gun for tanks. i just imagining how the Churchill 1 with his small howitzer in his front would turn his whole tank to blast some arti. i think multiple turrets/Gun-control could be a wonderful way to balance a lot of vehicles. especially the slower ones. and the KV-5s Radio Operator would finally be able to fight back :D i think this would be Awesome ingame. (even though hard to balance)
QB is talking about new and experimental vehicles and t3 premiums mean while, the M3 Lee has a perfectly good 37mm turret on top of its main 75mm armament.
Hey QB! big fan of yours, been watching your video's and streams for years now and would have to say you helped me get into world of tanks and now hooked on it (Recently just unlocked my first teir 10 :) I noticed you don't play your intro as much as you used to, But also seen your out tro alot. I just had a question and seeing as we are almost nearing the end of 2017, Was wondering if you were going to make a new intro/out tro? I like what you currently have but just thought if something new was on the way haha. Please no hate from anybody, this comment isn't out to offend anyone but was just curious
This was the best game mode made by wargaming in my opinion! I returned to this video after almost 2 years because i miss it... Hope they make other Halloween events as fun as this!
The MTLS-1G14 had two main guns, not two turrets. It also was released as a gift tank on console on christmas in 2016, which was probably the first gift tank ever that wasn't absolutely crap.
I'm sitting here, thinking of ALL the multi-turreted tanks that will be totally different if they did that. So many bad tanks made good, so many big slow derpy tanks made into viable brawlers... Oh man, I want that something awful. As an aside, I have had more fun playing the PVE co-op mode against the Leviathan of late than I have playing the core game with the state of the matchmaker. I hope Wargaming does something with this, I want to see MORE! Also, put the Char 2C and the FCM F1 into the regular game already! They are BEAUTIFUL!
Stein (char 2C) is meant to be a female tank and Franken (FCM F1) is the male tank, since these two tanks are build in the interwar period, they are classified as male (having a big gun to fight other tanks) and female (with smaller gun to fight and support infantry). Female tank often have better manoeuvrability and armour compared to male tanks
Mode's fun. Could use another map or two. The multi-turret mechanics need a good deal of work before they're ready for full implementation, IMO. That dude turned blue because he fired at the red tank, and had a clear shot with one turret, but you were blocking the other turret. That's really hard to avoid sometimes. And the crosshairs jump all over the place when you're tucked into cover.
I've seen the MTLS in action, it's a tier 3 if I remember correctly. The quirky thing about it is not that it has dual turrets, instead, it has one turret that has 2 cannons. IT's an autoloader to, similar to an M5 Stuart. Just something I saw. :P
The only practical multi-turreted tank I can think of that's already in the game would be the M3 Lee, with the 37mm wedding cake turret on top. Seems like that could make the tank a bit less crap.
QB, you just had to tell everyone about getting in underneath Leviathon. Of course if you even bump it you are dead by ramming. So you have to be careful. And it can still drop mines on you.
I'd be excited about multi turret mechanics if they could do it. There are many actual tanks that could be put in. T-35, SMK , T-100, the Neubaufahrzeug, Char 2C (which Stein is based off of), FCM F1 (Franken). Not to mention retrofitting tanks already in the game that have multiple guns - Churchill Mk 1, Char B1, Chi-Ri, KV-4 and of course the Lee and Grant.
Retrofit the two-turret mode on the General Lee tank and it might become rather good in some battles using that fast-firing 37mm gun with 360-deg traverse. This would be a good experiment!
I'm thinking maybe tanks that are already in the game could benefit from this mechanic, such as the Lee and Grant. Also the Churchill 1 with the hull mounted gun as well as the turret. And dare I say the Japanese heavies who appear to have small cannons in the "boob turrets" or the Maus with the coaxally mounted 75mm cannon next to the main cannon. Lots of possibilities.
I would like to see WOT have multiple weapon-system tanks, yes. Multi-turret is not required, as most were flops in history, but being able to use the 37mm on an M3 Lee and the almost-universal coaxial MG on most tanks would have some merit. Maus would be very intriguing if they could bring their 75mm coaxial guns into play in various ways. Just assign the secondary/tertiary weapons to other keys and bingo, you can have multiple weapons on a tank without breaking the engine. Wargaming, take the hint from Warthunder already. Yeesh.
M3 Lee, M3 Grant, B1 bis, Churchill 1, Centurion 1 & some of the British tank destroyers in the 'assault bunker' line with the secondary Polsen (?) Gun next tot the main gun. Maus. Lots of tanks have unused guns... (Not counting machine guns)
M3 Lee and the Grant are both have two turrets as is... the 75 mm and that upper turret had a 37 mm in it. It would be interesting to see them with this set up.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FCM_F1, www.chars-francais.net/2015/index.php/liste-chronologique/de-1930-a-1940?task=view&id=723 also if i'm not mistaken they projected to make a variant using twin 40mm bofors in the second turret but i'm not sure
Quicky I dont know if you noticed but your secondary gun has a much quicker reload than your main, a lot of times you can fire it twice before your main reloads
Actually, when you would play ground forces. The M3 lee they have in the game, they do allow you to use both guns on the tank and in many other cases, also a machine gun...
Dear Mr. QuickyBaby, I like the idea about two turreted tanks.. And if you think it better, on many tanks we see those gunports and machine guns, which is not in use.. So why not to put those in use, specially on low tier games.. What do you think.. :) and yes, I personally enjoyed those halloween theme missions, Levi been destroyed many times over and also has climb on damage up to 13-14k..which is pretty fun.. Great rewards on completing those.. So it is fun.. Keep on doing great work.. Thanks for videos, those teach a lot.
The M3 Lee was a historic multi turret tank - they should give it access to that 37mm high velocity gun on the top and keep the lower gun strictly for HE. I think thats how it was designed. Im sure there are more real tanks out there with that setup.
"I get up behind Leviathan, stick my secondary gun up in his lower plate and it's easy to penetrate...." LMAO 7:00 Should have put a PG-13 warning on here QB :P
finally they added the FCM F1 and FCM C2 it took them years to add them even for a short period of time, i hope they add them to the french tech tree permanently.
OMG the red circle where the leviathan is aiming is so MUCh more visible at high graphics! And those gloving points are just barely yellowish on low graphics. Still a good gamemode tho.
Lee, Grant, Char Bis, a few other french and Soviet tanks...lots of historical vehicles would enjoy the duel gun mode. Maybe even the huge early war Soviet one with 5 turrets.
If they really implement multi-turret support, the M3 Lee might actually be good. And those japanese heavies will be able to fire broadsides like battleships :D
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Hey you know what other tank is tier 8 and has 1,500 HP? The Panther 2! I think that it would be a great idea to do either one replay, or maybe even a whole review. Now I know the Panther might not be the most interesting tank to play, however I think I deserves at least a replay since it is one of the oldest tanks in the game. Besides, being great in good tanks is boring. On the other hand being great in average or "balanced" tanks truly shows someones skill level.
Attempt #9
QuickyBaby can I play with u on world of tanks
No
man i was waiting for this video what took u so long
QuickyBaby did not say anything about the arty on it ?
multiple turrets in action??
Let's make the M3 Lee great again!!!!
and finally, the KV-5 Radio Operator can fight back!!!!
That's what I was scrolling down to say. I can't believe he didn't immediately think of the Lee/Grant tanks. Get the 37mm turret in the game... how amazing would that be!? Might make fewer new players quit before they get to Tier V in the those American and British lines. That was one of my worst early memories of WoT, trying to grind through that POS oversized TD-tank on just the 75mm.
You forgot the tank before the KV1, the T-28
The maus has a 75mm coax.
Kartik Narayan but that had only 7.62 coax right? I think 37mm and up could work
and don't forget, the Churchill had its howitzer!!!!
Can'r wait for Leviathan to be released as a tier 8 premium
Flabbergastingly Blasphemous they need to make it tier 12 or something like this tier 8 is op or maybe make it almost impossible to get
Affirmative!
Sarcasm guys, sarcasm.
Sarcasm guys, sarcasm.
Flabbergastingly Blasphemous How stupid can they be? 😂
Hopefully this spooky event is some kind of undercover supertest for Wargaming to see how multi-turreted tanks would function in the game and how players react to it... And also: Functional bots for an eventual PvE horde mode!
AwesomeEpicGuys maybe in far future definitely not soon
To be fair, WG was speaking about an PvE mode for WoT before the game was even in alpha. I am suprised that it took them this long to do anything like this, especially with games like Armored Warfare for example showing that PvE a significant amount of the playerbase would want to play on a regular basis. Some may even exclusively. At the very least it helps new or simply bad players to learn mechanics at their own pace without frustrating others and/or themself.
Hopefully not - the secondary gun turrets are broken and do not work, ever, for me and a hell of a lot of others and I am not going to fuck around with my permanent game settings for a week long "special"
YES! THINK OF THE M3 LEE CONTENT?!!?!?!!
AwesomeEpicGuys yeah maybe, like the M3 lee, the howitzer on the Churchill, or the 75mm rangefinder on the Maus.
M3 Lee needs this multi turret !!!!
yaas
So jingles won’t call it shit no more XD
well in War thunder lee has working turret
Dont forget about Chi-ri, O-I experimental, O-I, O-NI, O-HO, Grant, Churchill I, T1 heavy, KV5, T28, TVP, B2 and ofc Maus :D
M3 Lee is already a bit Op the gun is insane.
M3 Lee's turret should be functional! It definitely needs some love.
I am Hoxton true
I am Hoxton would be op idk
Or the Grant
Phantom Meme if they balance it good it wouldnt bc the main gun isnt that good at all
The gun is alright tbh, it just needs better penetration, accuracy and aim time
the dual turret thing is like playing world of warships on land ;)
Sublime Thinker or you know, like war thunder
Or, it's more like a tank with 2 turrets.
Actually - LEVIATHAN in hebrew is Whale (the ocean mammal). Do you think WG know that?
Franken is a FCM F1 and Stein is a Char 2C. Nobody seems to have noticed this.
Also, the Leviathan looks like a single-main-gun version of the P.1000 Ratte.
The Crew Voices appear to be Italian. Italian tanks confirmed?
The Ratte had a similar profile but it didn't have any cannons to the sides nor the artillery cannons behind the turrets.
The crews of the Stein and Fraken are speaking Latin.
I remember my clanmate said they were WWI French reject tanks.
Close, but not really correct. The Char 2C was a WW1 French tank that wasn't finished until the war ended, so it was produced only in extremely limited numbers. They were great for their time, but very rapidly became obsolete. The FCM F1 was a late interwar project that had to be canceled while it was still a prototype due to France's surrender to Germany.
*The moment you realize you'd rather have bots on your team than those 14 tomatoes*
I have yet to survive PvP mode due mostly to potato aiming Teammates
Players with attitudes like yours are toxic.
And yet still better than you. You can't compensate by being a 'nice guy', sweetheart.
Vladimír Hlocký that s true
I am glad you are having fun.
This maybe a hint from WG to add the ability to use the 7.5cm secondary gun on the Maus
Lawrence Best and the grant and m3 lee 37mm guns
People say the secondary gun on the maus is useless, but I dont really think so, that gun is really usefull for extra dpm against light tanks, glass tanks and arty though xD
QB the type of dude to put equipment on an event tank
The camo net and bio's are free to mount and dismount. There is no reason not to equip
Demountable at least.
LOLL LMAO!!!
camo binocs and repair kit are free to equip and dequip
lul the weight difference is despicable.
In the gates of hell...
Dimitrios Galiatsatos τίποτα
Πάμε αδελφέ BRABUSMAN το όνομα μου στο παιχνίδι
as we use our double turrets, though the undead lines, STOP THE LEVIATHAN!
Primo-Victoria!
Dryalga Ok sir you win, that's gold
Leviathan... Next tier 8 premium tank?
Russian*
Ante ro its Tier 10
Why would they put a clear german styled tank in the Russian tech tree?
Next premium tier 10 reward tank
nah........it will be tier 3 premium tank.....its not OP enough for tier 8
2:01 predicted the future... He even laughed...
And now also this 9:48
For a mission
You get 100,000 IGC and 5000XP
But XP goes to the tank which we used to complete the task (of course Halloween tank)
So to get this XP you need to spend 200 Gold
"Reward"
offcourse you need to spent money at WG.....what else did you think ....
@WG you get nothing for free....and even when you spent money...they nerf your prem tank ;)
Wargaming in a nutshell
We should be allowed to drive the Leviathan!
polaristrans U would crash it ;)
Hi QB, console scrub here. The MTLS-1G14 was released for the xbox one launch of WoT. Then a special christmas varient called Blitsen was released for free for christmas 2016. The tank has one turret but two 37mm auto cannons in it. Each has a 5 round autoloader that deals 40 damage so potential for average of 400 damage a clip. Very over powered in equal tier match making but strugles against tier 4 & 5 because of low penatration. If you ever want to do a full review on the tank i'll lend you my acount as i have both variants.
So stein is char 2c
Yep, both are French tanks. The other is the FCM F1.
I was suprised that they decided to use this two super heavy tanks
Both have had models in the game for a long time.
They would be so OP at tier 3.
They would make more sense at lower tier.. but with different gun stats probably.
Being able to fire the main machine gun
in your tank would be cool, even if it didn't do damage
unless your a low tier, it would just be a cool addition. same with if they added
tank head-lights with hd maps
It was so hard to turn own tank sideways to enemy fire :'D
So, the FCM F1 and the Char 2C. Pretty interesting choices on WG's part, and a very good way to demonstrate the functionality behind the two-turret gameplay.
yes, but as a french it's always funny to see people saying char 2C and FCM F1 as char just means tank and both 2C and F1 were built by FCM so it would be more logical to called them FCM 2C and FCM F1 or char 2C and char F1 but anyway it's the same
How to defeat Leviathan: Jpz E100 HEAT at the butt!
this is still my favorite gamemode in the game so far. i wish it would be brought back.
Would love to see the B1 get access to it's main gun, and would love to see these two French tanks brought in as premium tanks.
Wtf ? The weapon the B1 actually uses IS its main gun. The 75mm thingy is just there to send shells on bunker or infantry. The 47mm could take out every tank it met when it fought in 1940.
And none of the tanks it was going to meet in 1940, was going to pen it either. Also, are you going to say the smaller gun, that surviving B1 tank crewmembers themselves didn't even care about losing, is the main gun?? Seriously, they had a documentary talking about different tank battles, one of them was talking about a battle between a WW2 panzer division, and group of B1's. They interviewed some of the crew members that were still alive after all this time, and one of those crews lost their commander and so called "Main gun" during the battle, they continued to fight and took out enemy tanks with that 75 mm, which was more than strong enough to get the job done during the early part of the war when all of the tanks they would meet could be overwhelmed by a B1 bis?? Or need I remind you of Pierre Billote, a french tank commander who's B1 Bis, claimed two panzer 4's, eleven panzer 3's, and two anti tank guns, by itself when he had his crew drive the tank in to break the enemies defenses and to reclaim the town of Stonne?? Oh, and his tank received over 100 hits with no penetrations. Also, in all variations of the Char B1 bis, and all the prototype versions of the tank, that 75 mm, stayed their the entire time.. it was never changed and has always been designated by the French military as it's main armament with the smaller 47 mm gun used by the commander being designated as it's secondary armament meant to protect the B1's greatest weakness, it's side ventilation hatch, which is where the armor of the tank was the weakest apart from the turret which could be lost with minimal damage to the rest of the tank.
I already knew all of that bud.
But there is one thing you miss, the 47mm gun is mentionned on the French wikipedia page of the B1 tank and on many other sources as the "weapon that gave the B1 a real anti-tank capacity". I went to the Saumur museum of Armored Vehicles (In france obv) and the 47mm gun is also mentionned as the "main anti-tank weapon" on the info plate in front of the tank.
You say that the 75mm could do the job, yes, but what you didn't mention is the absolute horrible maniability of this weapon, that needed the driver to move the entire tank to aim with this cannon, as it was only possible to move it vertically. This required a LOT of efforts to aim it, which was why the B1 had "the task to attack heavily fortified ennemy positions" (source : fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/B1_(char) ) with this gun, and not to got kill tanks with it.
So yeah, you misread some things, but the explanation in the end is simple.
Anti-tank wise, the 47mm IS the main gun, but to attack bunkers or infantry the 75mm is the main cannon for those specific tasks. Which means that in World of Tanks, the main weapon of the B1 is indeed the 47mm.
Churchill 1 duble turret
Neither the ST-2 nor the Dutch MTLS-1G14 have two turrets, QuickyBaby. Why not take the M3 Lee as an example? By the way, the fact that War Thunder has had multiple turrets for literally 5 full years now (celebrating its birthday with an event as we speak) while WoT did not, is quite surprising.
philipje1 if I'm right it has like 4 guns tho. Two .44 caliber (and yes caliber in this case) machine guns and 2 similar machine guns
Uhhh...
War thunder had implemented the use of multi turrets and machineguns in 2015 I think (or maybe only machineguns) for the Steel Generals update which added american tanks.
So I guess the multi-turret feature was not there from the beginning, at least I do not remember it being present when Ground Forces came out.
At least the KV-1 has a machine gun on the back of its turret. That's been there from the start. Perhaps there is a better example, idk. Not to mention the Maus, but that one does not have a seperate turret as well
I'm not talking about that, I'm talking about the fact that machineguns were not usable before Steel Generals update, so 1.45.
I double checked, and the multi-turrets were usable from the beginning of ground forces. So you're right, multi turrets are available in War Thunder since 3 and nearly a half years.
Quick factoid! The MTLS -1G14 (quickybaby just called it MTLS) is available on WoT Console as a tier 3 American Premium tank and a different Christmas variant was given to everyone in 2016 called Blitzen. It has 2 guns not 2 turrets, and on WoT Console it is basically just an auto-loader as each trigger pull fires one gun than the other 5 times which equals 10 total shots.
Its a seal clubber tank, basically like the Pz 1 C. It has very bad pen even on its premium rounds (can never pen a T14) but anything with weak armor and low hit pool will get wreaked by it. You can often kill 2 tier 3 tanks in a clip and wait ~13 secs to do it again with INSANE amounts of ammo on backup.
M3 Lee finallyyyyy
for those who still are figuring it out, the ay to stop Leviathan is to finish off all minions to stock up on medkits
AND THEN gang up on him... (ab)using the binocs on the Franken and sniping is complelely viable.
The second aiming reticule does not work in my client.. It completely bugs out :(
play in safe mode, if you have any mods at all, it craps out the secondary gun....
It can happen without any mods installed too, there were times when I was playing that the reticule bugged and stopped moving too and I've stopped bothering with mods.
Honestly I think the best way to use this system is to check out the M3 Lee. Realistically the 37 wouldn't prove much of a threat, but think about the ability to make the tanks with a turret system like the M3 being able to peek hills and do dmg with your turret while waiting for a need to use the 75. Plenty of tanks in the game have more turrets but a M3 Lee (Being the most hated tank in the American's list. The game would be cool mixing this system in)
can't wait until it comes out as a t8 premium
actualy u can buy it for like 15 mils
no joke
QuickyBaby: ramming can be really effective
Me after ramming leviathan: :/
Bring back doom turtel
wat
You mean the T95 that he's featured on here?
MegaRazorback no just the repleas of the the t95
Ah.
Now what if the M3 Lee's tumor off a weakspot could fire?
Imagine the Japanese Heavies with this secondary turret setup 😨
TamilKing1 oh yes please😃
рандом рандом well the Japanese secondaries for tier 6 to 8 are 7.7 lmgs which could be comparable to the pz 1c's top lmg
And the cannons are 47mm high velocity guns, similar to the ones used for the type-91, chi-ha, and chi-he
so it would mean that a lot of heavy tanks that have these lighter or lower Cal Guns would be used to chew of lightly armored targets (for what they were actually used) and the Main Guns would be their Gun for tanks. i just imagining how the Churchill 1 with his small howitzer in his front would turn his whole tank to blast some arti. i think multiple turrets/Gun-control could be a wonderful way to balance a lot of vehicles. especially the slower ones. and the KV-5s Radio Operator would finally be able to fight back :D i think this would be Awesome ingame. (even though hard to balance)
portal to afterlife + pissed confused face ahhahahahahaha
WG fix some bugs in friend list and campain and sometimes halloween mode second can crosh hire dosent work propaply. !
Kas1122 neither does your keyboard, apparently
.....because it does'nt mix with mods well, play it in safe mode....
Iain Ansell don't have any mods but still same problem sooooo...
QB is talking about new and experimental vehicles and t3 premiums mean while, the M3 Lee has a perfectly good 37mm turret on top of its main 75mm armament.
Typical, my motherboard dies on me and all the games I play release their fun modes
Creeperjr 5 Sorry dude :(
Did you just assume your boards gender ! /triggered
( sorry to hear your computer died)
Creeperjr 5 SAME
Creeperjr 5 Just get a real cheap replacement
Frist ever aperance of the manticore was in 2017, lol
What language are the voices 😂 French?
Sounds like some romanic language (something like romanian or maybe even latin?)
latin
Kinda sounds Italian to me but I wouldn't know. I was almost wondering if it was some kind of hint that we'll get an Italian line at some point.
Pretty sure that's romanian.
i thought it was latin, there's nothing more horrifying than that lol
Hey QB! big fan of yours, been watching your video's and streams for years now and would have to say you helped me get into world of tanks and now hooked on it (Recently just unlocked my first teir 10 :) I noticed you don't play your intro as much as you used to, But also seen your out tro alot. I just had a question and seeing as we are almost nearing the end of 2017, Was wondering if you were going to make a new intro/out tro? I like what you currently have but just thought if something new was on the way haha.
Please no hate from anybody, this comment isn't out to offend anyone but was just curious
War gaming make it a premium tank pls
Bryan Ribey you have no sense of humour
Bryan Ribey I think he meant like make it so it can only use the front turret and debuffed enough to make it a playable premium tank :-)
Zakary Penner your right debuf it second turret away and my Hobby for tanks starting with the char 2c
With this in mind, with the multi-turret, It would change the way tanks such as the M3-Lee would play.... and others that use multiple guns.
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These dual turrets 100% feel like a prototype for what they want to do. There are a TON of tanks already in that could utilize this
The question is ,does QB eat ass ?
can't wait to watch the vid btw
Not sure where your mindset is to think of this but you need help.
M. Redleg fam ever ones doing it nowadays
This was the best game mode made by wargaming in my opinion! I returned to this video after almost 2 years because i miss it... Hope they make other Halloween events as fun as this!
The MTLS-1G14 had two main guns, not two turrets. It also was released as a gift tank on console on christmas in 2016, which was probably the first gift tank ever that wasn't absolutely crap.
Oh, so Leviathan is like a baby TOG. How cute.
They should keep the PVE game mode and use the P.1000 Landkreuzer as the boss
Faffy Waffle or a full 15 man team vs the P.1500 :D
On tanks.gg the Leviathan is a german heavy tank, a hint maybe?
But P.1500 is arty...
Faffy Waffle ....you obviously enjoy suffering. I like you.
the crew is technically have an eye ploblem if they cant spot the P1000 from 500 meters away...
I'm sitting here, thinking of ALL the multi-turreted tanks that will be totally different if they did that. So many bad tanks made good, so many big slow derpy tanks made into viable brawlers... Oh man, I want that something awful.
As an aside, I have had more fun playing the PVE co-op mode against the Leviathan of late than I have playing the core game with the state of the matchmaker. I hope Wargaming does something with this, I want to see MORE!
Also, put the Char 2C and the FCM F1 into the regular game already! They are BEAUTIFUL!
They had info about ST-II and the tier 3 double barelled tank before 3 yrs ?!?!?!?!?! come onnn ?!
Stein (char 2C) is meant to be a female tank and Franken (FCM F1) is the male tank, since these two tanks are build in the interwar period, they are classified as male (having a big gun to fight other tanks) and female (with smaller gun to fight and support infantry). Female tank often have better manoeuvrability and armour compared to male tanks
This type of Multigun tank model would make the M3 Lee and the Churchill very interesting.
Mode's fun. Could use another map or two. The multi-turret mechanics need a good deal of work before they're ready for full implementation, IMO. That dude turned blue because he fired at the red tank, and had a clear shot with one turret, but you were blocking the other turret. That's really hard to avoid sometimes. And the crosshairs jump all over the place when you're tucked into cover.
I've seen the MTLS in action, it's a tier 3 if I remember correctly. The quirky thing about it is not that it has dual turrets, instead, it has one turret that has 2 cannons. IT's an autoloader to, similar to an M5 Stuart. Just something I saw. :P
Thanks for the clarification! I appreciate you helping the WoT community.
Two things:
*the leviathan has many weak spots, not just the glowing parts.
*reassign your secondary guns to right mouse button. It helps. Alot!
love the leviathan, those tracks are actually P1000 Landkreuzer's Track
The only practical multi-turreted tank I can think of that's already in the game would be the M3 Lee, with the 37mm wedding cake turret on top. Seems like that could make the tank a bit less crap.
QB, you just had to tell everyone about getting in underneath Leviathon. Of course if you even bump it you are dead by ramming. So you have to be careful. And it can still drop mines on you.
The M3 Lee would actually be really fun with the ability to control the 37mm cannon on the top turret.
I'd be excited about multi turret mechanics if they could do it. There are many actual tanks that could be put in.
T-35, SMK , T-100, the Neubaufahrzeug, Char 2C (which Stein is based off of), FCM F1 (Franken). Not to mention retrofitting tanks already in the game that have multiple guns - Churchill Mk 1, Char B1, Chi-Ri, KV-4 and of course the Lee and Grant.
As long as it is balanced, I don't care what wargaming is putting in the game. New content is always good!
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IVE JUST REALISED ONE BOT IS CALLED CHIMERA O.O
Holy crap, the damage you could do with the extra turrets on the Japanese heavies.
Retrofit the two-turret mode on the General Lee tank and it might become rather good in some battles using that fast-firing 37mm gun with 360-deg traverse. This would be a good experiment!
I haven't seen this yet and I haven't played WoT in months but I can imagine this is a Halloween thing.
I really want the Char 2C (Stein) as a regular or premium, even without the second Turret. The 2c is one of my favourite pre WW2 Tank
the second turret was just a machinegun so it wouldn't be really useful
I'm thinking maybe tanks that are already in the game could benefit from this mechanic, such as the Lee and Grant. Also the Churchill 1 with the hull mounted gun as well as the turret. And dare I say the Japanese heavies who appear to have small cannons in the "boob turrets" or the Maus with the coaxally mounted 75mm cannon next to the main cannon. Lots of possibilities.
I'd love to see the Maus be able to poke paper-armored tanks or track heavier armored tanks with its 75mm coaxial gun
I would like to see WOT have multiple weapon-system tanks, yes. Multi-turret is not required, as most were flops in history, but being able to use the 37mm on an M3 Lee and the almost-universal coaxial MG on most tanks would have some merit. Maus would be very intriguing if they could bring their 75mm coaxial guns into play in various ways. Just assign the secondary/tertiary weapons to other keys and bingo, you can have multiple weapons on a tank without breaking the engine. Wargaming, take the hint from Warthunder already. Yeesh.
M3 Lee, M3 Grant, B1 bis, Churchill 1, Centurion 1 & some of the British tank destroyers in the 'assault bunker' line with the secondary Polsen (?) Gun next tot the main gun. Maus.
Lots of tanks have unused guns... (Not counting machine guns)
The M3 Lee was a 2 turreted tank, might make it more interesting to add this mechanic to that tank
M3 Lee and the Grant are both have two turrets as is... the 75 mm and that upper turret had a 37 mm in it. It would be interesting to see them with this set up.
KV-44 on HoneAnimations must be here.
The Franken is the ww2 french super-heavy tank the FCM F1. It has a rear mounted 90mm anti-tank gun and a front mounted 20mm anti-aircraft gun.
Darkness Nighthingale the front mounted gun was a 47 mm gun
you got proof of any kind other than War gaming.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FCM_F1, www.chars-francais.net/2015/index.php/liste-chronologique/de-1930-a-1940?task=view&id=723 also if i'm not mistaken they projected to make a variant using twin 40mm bofors in the second turret but i'm not sure
they had the 20mm bofors as your link imply's
oh I didn't notice that so yea maybe that was twin 20mm bofors and not twin 40mm
Quicky I dont know if you noticed but your secondary gun has a much quicker reload than your main, a lot of times you can fire it twice before your main reloads
Actually, when you would play ground forces. The M3 lee they have in the game, they do allow you to use both guns on the tank and in many other cases, also a machine gun...
I very enjoy fun mode as this or T62A Sport, or the boul on the moon !! Nice Wargaming !
it's actually fairly fun! get in play a few games and then out. no monetary drain, fun things to look at
I never play special events, but this one. This goddmn one was so fking awesome and enjoyable
Dear Mr. QuickyBaby, I like the idea about two turreted tanks.. And if you think it better, on many tanks we see those gunports and machine guns, which is not in use.. So why not to put those in use, specially on low tier games.. What do you think.. :) and yes, I personally enjoyed those halloween theme missions, Levi been destroyed many times over and also has climb on damage up to 13-14k..which is pretty fun.. Great rewards on completing those.. So it is fun.. Keep on doing great work.. Thanks for videos, those teach a lot.
The M3 Lee was a historic multi turret tank - they should give it access to that 37mm high velocity gun on the top and keep the lower gun strictly for HE. I think thats how it was designed.
Im sure there are more real tanks out there with that setup.
Multi-gun tanks already in game; M3 lee/grant, M6 heavy, Maus, Churchill 1, Char B1.
"I get up behind Leviathan, stick my secondary gun up in his lower plate and it's easy to penetrate...." LMAO 7:00 Should have put a PG-13 warning on here QB :P
finally they added the FCM F1 and FCM C2 it took them years to add them even for a short period of time, i hope they add them to the french tech tree permanently.
OMG the red circle where the leviathan is aiming is so MUCh more visible at high graphics! And those gloving points are just barely yellowish on low graphics. Still a good gamemode tho.
Lee, Grant, Char Bis, a few other french and Soviet tanks...lots of historical vehicles would enjoy the duel gun mode. Maybe even the huge early war Soviet one with 5 turrets.
I feel like this was wargaming saying ''If we were to add the ratte this is what it'd be like''
new pve mode incoming in a couple patch time lol
M3 Lee double turret? HELL YEAH!
If they really implement multi-turret support, the M3 Lee might actually be good. And those japanese heavies will be able to fire broadsides like battleships :D
The Halloween map is basically unplayable for some players. The ground texture is super messed up. Driving inside the floor not easy
I hope this is a sign that the FCM F1 and Char 2C will be included to the game finally!
MTLS-1G14 doesn't have two turrets, it has two guns that fires at the same time
That 37mm on the Lee can do some work on lights and low tier targets.
The M3 Lee has a top mounted 37mm that would be amazing to use as well as it's main 75mm!