It's not that great, considering the Apple CPUs which are also ARM and perform much better. Worth mentioning that Apple has been ahead of this for years so for a first generation yes it's nice, but not impressive considering the market.
@@maximusasauluk7359 the samsung x elite launches the m3 max out to the ravine -_- mac os is made for arm, windows made for x86/amd64, the benchmarks say alot about the chip.
500 pc games support at launch. That's really good, and hopefully, it will be a turning point for Windows support of ARM hardware. This makes me excited to see what Nvidia could do if they designed a similar SOC, considering how efficient their gpu architecture is.
@@MORGUEZHR What? This video just showed 3 PC games that are not on Android and now you've come to the conclusion that 97 percent of the available games are on Android???
@@LeeLee-fi7mx Nvidia GPUs are quite bad in terms of efficiency. Apple chips are the most efficient. M3 Max integrated GPU cores are more efficient than any efficient comparable compute Nvidia GPU. What are you smoking man?
@SahilP2648 In terms of gpu efficiency, why would you even mention Apple in the conversation? Shows how little you know. Take a look at reviews of Snapdragon Gen 3 Vs apple a17pro and you'll see despite being made on an older process, the gen 3 smokes the a17pro in terms of performance and efficiency on the gou side. Even snapdragon Gen 2 performs on par with the a17pro and throttles alot less while being made on an even older process. Dude, stop believing Apple's marketing slides and actually read technical reviews before you comment on something you have no clue about.
@@LeeLee-fi7mx are you a smooth brain? You wrote "This makes me excited to see what Nvidia could do if they designed a similar SOC, considering how efficient their gpu architecture is." you said Nvidia makes efficient GPUs and I said no they don't, look at M3 Max from Apple. I didn't say anything about their mobile chips.
@@coffeeaddict477 They have Thunderbolt 4 so, presumably, you can do external GPU's. Question remains how it will perform when you take into account the translation layers, any cpu bottlenecks,etc. Still looking forward to seeing the results.
@@pranavsharma7479 I don’t think that will help too much, the performance is literally double on the ally titles like red out at 2 at 25 watts and control, even with driver suppor, I doubt they can double the fps.
When are the first Snapdragon X Elite laptops releasing for purchase?? I want a Windows laptop with amazing battery life comparable to M-series Macbooks.
This is what I've always dreamt about. A processor that can run high quality games really good without any extra gpu. With just it's built in graphics processors.
@@stephaned3072 heard from windows central they're announcing the surface pro 10s this March 21, one of them is Qualcomm powered to be released june. So Microsoft really does get first pickings.
My guess? Qualcomm has finally gotten Vulkan to work in Windows. Their previous APUs lacked OpenGL support (past OpenGL 1.0). The bits in the game written in architecture instructions are usually related to loading and launching.
finally , if fsr come with elite x perhaps come to phone to improve performance and maybe can run AAA games in android phone like apple with metalfx if spported Direct X inside cpu that very amazing😍🤩
Portable gaming is the future, whether it's a handheld or a laptop. I anticipate that many PC brands will join the handheld market following the success of devices like the ROG Ally, Legion Go, Switch, and Steam Deck. MSI is already using Intel, and there are rumors suggesting that Sony might reintroduce a handheld device again a standalone not a streaming device for a PS5 hopefully. Additionally, Microsoft is rumored to be planning the release of an Xbox handheld, and it would be exciting to see them incorporate Qualcomm Snapdragon technology. I would also like to see Apple develop a gaming handheld using their M1 chipset. Nintendo Switch will likely continue to use NVIDIA technology. Furthermore, it would be great to see Alienware release the Alienware UFO handheld, and I hope Acer and Razer will also join the market.
The impressive thing is that the GPU is embedded into the Snapdragon X Elite and it's still giving high end console quality performance with those demanding games. also, this is Qualcomm's first time making an actual soc processor for a power PC.
I'll trust outlets like Digital Foundry more than this channel. If they say this laptop is bad then I'll believe them because they actually tested the laptop in every possible scenarios.
While this is certainly impressive considering Qualcomm is historically idiotic when it comes to gaming and this is all done in emulation, I don't get why there are articles claiming that this is in any way comparable to AMD's 780M. At best this is comparable to the Steam Deck.
Great development. On a different note, they could have at least made the demo machine look more polished 👀. Looks like it has a few dings and the logo / branding looks like a knock off version (but it’s actually the real deal)…. I guess it’s all raw at the moment.
not knowing the resolution and settings, this may be i680m or steam deck level performance, but will fall behind significantly compared to i780m, i880m or even switch 2
Felt a lot of Motion blur in control. Snapdragon XE seems very late to the party especially QRD performance seems good for first gen. I'm unsure about third party vendor performance. XE does seem like SoC in 2 in 1s with AI performance and very good travel device with great battery life.
It would be interesting to play World of Warcraft on this thing in a 40 man raid, or a 40 vs. 40 man bg on higher settings. Wonder if it could handle it
So it would seem that Mac’s are outperforming windows in ARM gaming. I wonder if it will be easier for Apple to port the games that will be released with the Qualcomm chip. This is a real turn of the tables.
Productivity doesn't necessarily demand high power. For example, the ROG Ally can smoothly handle tasks such as video editing, multitasking, and graphic design. However, in gaming, there are certain games that may challenge the Ally. Yet, if any device can manage any game, it's likely capable of handling any task you throw at it.
@kurbasw8 what are you talking about. I said 30fps is bad when the Xbox and PS5 can hit 60fps. Has nothing to do with power. The gpu will never keep up with AMD or Nvidia. Same as Apples gpu can't keep up. This is not a gaming laptop and never will be.
its not designed for games, its designed for battery life... they are trying to make a low end laptop that can compete with Apple and get 12+ hours of battery life.
Hopefully affordable. Most barebones budget gaming laptops in nz are usually no cheaper than 1500 1600 dollars. Maybe 11-1200 if its got a gpu from 3+ years ago lol
With these games coming to Windows ARM... I wonder what this will do for macOS gaming community 😄 might make it easier for macOS users to play Windows games now!
Qualcomm will need at least 5 years for software and games to be optimized for the Snapdragon X Elite series. 5 years from now I hope there will be Linux or Windows Handheld Gaming powered by Snapdragon X Elite Series.😊
@@AyaWetts but it has the same architecture as apples m series processors and the people that made this for Qualcomm were ex employees of apple who made the m series, so I think it's only a matter of time before they surpass apple, after all this is their first generation processor and they are already on par with apples low end m 3rd gen series processor. And apples next mobile processor is gonna lose to snapdragon 8 gen 4 cus they are bringing their oryon architecture to it, it's expected to have an antutu score of more than 3 million. Leaks of A18 pro shows it has 3500 single score and 8500 in multi, Snapdragon 8 gen 4 has a,single score of 2845 and multiple score of 10628. 8 gen 4 will leave A18 pro in the dust. In multi score.
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a 30FPS experience on ARM is damn decent. Cant wait to see it once optimized.
It's not that great, considering the Apple CPUs which are also ARM and perform much better. Worth mentioning that Apple has been ahead of this for years so for a first generation yes it's nice, but not impressive considering the market.
@@maximusasauluk7359 it’s still in the early stages though.
@@maximusasauluk7359 the samsung x elite launches the m3 max out to the ravine -_- mac os is made for arm, windows made for x86/amd64, the benchmarks say alot about the chip.
+ the games are not running natively on the x elite.
@@maximusasauluk7359 much better? 720p low settings for 6 years old games is MUCH better?
500 pc games support at launch. That's really good, and hopefully, it will be a turning point for Windows support of ARM hardware. This makes me excited to see what Nvidia could do if they designed a similar SOC, considering how efficient their gpu architecture is.
97% of that is going to be a pile of garbage you can already play on androids lol.
@@MORGUEZHR What? This video just showed 3 PC games that are not on Android and now you've come to the conclusion that 97 percent of the available games are on Android???
@@LeeLee-fi7mx Nvidia GPUs are quite bad in terms of efficiency. Apple chips are the most efficient. M3 Max integrated GPU cores are more efficient than any efficient comparable compute Nvidia GPU. What are you smoking man?
@SahilP2648 In terms of gpu efficiency, why would you even mention Apple in the conversation? Shows how little you know. Take a look at reviews of Snapdragon Gen 3 Vs apple a17pro and you'll see despite being made on an older process, the gen 3 smokes the a17pro in terms of performance and efficiency on the gou side. Even snapdragon Gen 2 performs on par with the a17pro and throttles alot less while being made on an even older process. Dude, stop believing Apple's marketing slides and actually read technical reviews before you comment on something you have no clue about.
@@LeeLee-fi7mx are you a smooth brain? You wrote "This makes me excited to see what Nvidia could do if they designed a similar SOC, considering how efficient their gpu architecture is." you said Nvidia makes efficient GPUs and I said no they don't, look at M3 Max from Apple. I didn't say anything about their mobile chips.
Do Qualcomm has plans to also available this Flagship X Elite into Mini pc too.
Or affordable options.😮
I wouldnt mind seeing this with better colling at higher wattage.
can they even merge this chip with dedicated graphics? that would be insane
@@coffeeaddict477 They have Thunderbolt 4 so, presumably, you can do external GPU's. Question remains how it will perform when you take into account the translation layers, any cpu bottlenecks,etc. Still looking forward to seeing the results.
Good news dude, there is existence of mini pcs
@@coffeeaddict477You'll likely have to wait on Nvidia's upcoming CPU with Arm architecture and their GPU technology, slated for 2024.
Seems a bit slower than the z1 extreme. Not bad for a first gen product. Though it uses 23 watts so it isn't super efficent.
Doesn't really bode well for the switch 2 having fast performance looking at this result though. The switch 2 will have to rely on dlss.
Initial drivers are not stable also Microsoft arm emulation
@@pranavsharma7479I don't think it would impreove the situation tbh. You are seeing a 2x performance difference in games like reddout 2.
@@pranavsharma7479 once laptops come out with this processor in June Microsoft will likely fix these problems making the perfomance even better
@@pranavsharma7479 I don’t think that will help too much, the performance is literally double on the ally titles like red out at 2 at 25 watts and control, even with driver suppor, I doubt they can double the fps.
When are the first Snapdragon X Elite laptops releasing for purchase??
I want a Windows laptop with amazing battery life comparable to M-series Macbooks.
june
Around July. But they are likely to be a staggered release.
Most likely Microsoft surface products and Samsung laptop and tablets.
March 21 from Microsoft
I think half of 2025
Just make the drivers public for all OS,
community will take care of supported games.
Not a gamer, but if this is super energy efficient and runs my Windows apps perfectly, I'm tempted to get one of these for my new laptop.
This is what I've always dreamt about. A processor that can run high quality games really good without any extra gpu. With just it's built in graphics processors.
amd 7840u has been doing that for a while now
Coming from a country where electricity is not cheap it's a good news , I always abandoned the idea of a gaming PC for this reason .
Should also try with an external GPU
Ones with a thunderbolt port would be so nice!
hope they use this chip in android tablets
Too power hungry/heat for tablets.
tell that to apple with m2 iPad @@livedreamsg
@michaelmorris5773, the m2 ususes 11-13 watts, on ipads the snapdragon x elite uses 23 watts.
i hope so,but can't imagine how hot the tablet is
apple can put m1 m2 m3 chip in tablet y not android tab
I'm waiting for the new Surface Pro with this chip. Battery life should be amazing.
yes i am so excited for the surface pro 10 and laptop 6 that will come with snapdragon x elite chip
That would be very interesting
Interesting, is the snapdragon x elite using emulation to run these pc games. If so that is a bit cool
A mix, I think some are native and some are emulation
@@BooredAtWork interesting.
On PC it'll be completely insane
I have a feeling this or a version of this will be first launched with the Surface Pro 10 this Summer.
Bet. Or a samsung
@@stephaned3072 heard from windows central they're announcing the surface pro 10s this March 21, one of them is Qualcomm powered to be released june. So Microsoft really does get first pickings.
March releases likely from Microsoft
Yes, I can't wait. I'm excited to know if ARM is worth it, if not I'm going all in on the OLED model. @@MrMalam1234
So are these games running on top of a translation layer that translate x86 instructions to ARM ? If that is the case, then this is pretty interesting
My guess? Qualcomm has finally gotten Vulkan to work in Windows. Their previous APUs lacked OpenGL support (past OpenGL 1.0). The bits in the game written in architecture instructions are usually related to loading and launching.
finally , if fsr come with elite x perhaps come to phone to improve performance and maybe can run AAA games in android phone like apple with metalfx if spported Direct X inside cpu that very amazing😍🤩
It’d be interesting to see a PC handheld at some point
These are going to be excellent Linux laptops!!!
*cries in Surface bootloader locking*
Portable gaming is the future, whether it's a handheld or a laptop. I anticipate that many PC brands will join the handheld market following the success of devices like the ROG Ally, Legion Go, Switch, and Steam Deck. MSI is already using Intel, and there are rumors suggesting that Sony might reintroduce a handheld device again a standalone not a streaming device for a PS5 hopefully. Additionally, Microsoft is rumored to be planning the release of an Xbox handheld, and it would be exciting to see them incorporate Qualcomm Snapdragon technology. I would also like to see Apple develop a gaming handheld using their M1 chipset. Nintendo Switch will likely continue to use NVIDIA technology. Furthermore, it would be great to see Alienware release the Alienware UFO handheld, and I hope Acer and Razer will also join the market.
The impressive thing is that the GPU is embedded into the Snapdragon X Elite and it's still giving high end console quality performance with those demanding games. also, this is Qualcomm's first time making an actual soc processor for a power PC.
I want a cell phone with the X elite.
I'd be interested to see how the native Mac version of Baulders gate 3 holds up against the snapdragon
M2 Pro runs it with stable 60fps on the same 1080p rendering resolution.
@@TamasKiss-yk4st What about the new M3?
I'll trust outlets like Digital Foundry more than this channel. If they say this laptop is bad then I'll believe them because they actually tested the laptop in every possible scenarios.
While this is certainly impressive considering Qualcomm is historically idiotic when it comes to gaming and this is all done in emulation, I don't get why there are articles claiming that this is in any way comparable to AMD's 780M. At best this is comparable to the Steam Deck.
So those are running just off the X elite right? No dedicated gpu? That's damn impressive.
He doesn't state what resolution he was playing at......
if those games are playing at 1080p low then the snapdragon x elite is barely matching the amd 780m
Matching? My 780m blows those number away. Though I get the video isn't a "this is faster than anything" but more of a "look, its possible now".
I can imagine future consoles on Snapdragon lol
that isn't too far off, but with the flexibility of play android and pc games
How is snapdragon for decording when it comes to cloud gaming? I have experience on phones but how is it on laptops?
Imaging these chips on devices like stream deck and Lenovo legion go
Can’t wait to use a windows laptop unpluged and good battery life all day😊😊😊😊😊
With this CPU on something like the steam deck, will be more powerful than AMD IGPU and hell of better with battery life
its finally happening!
I'd like more info about level of details on those games?
Was it set to low, medium, high or ultra?
ok this is no joke, apple is not intel's opponent, because apple has their own realm, but with this? Intel must be noticed
Great development. On a different note, they could have at least made the demo machine look more polished 👀. Looks like it has a few dings and the logo / branding looks like a knock off version (but it’s actually the real deal)…. I guess it’s all raw at the moment.
Hopefully some cheap and good windows machines on the horizon
Pricing will depend on manufacturer
baldurs gate 2??
not knowing the resolution and settings, this may be i680m or steam deck level performance, but will fall behind significantly compared to i780m, i880m or even switch 2
It is at 1080p better than steam deck worse than ally
3060 level actually at around 60w. its actully impressive.
On what graphic settings you tasted control ?
Is there Anyway to get this reference laptop for testing or buy it for testing purposes
When is this launching?
Felt a lot of Motion blur in control. Snapdragon XE seems very late to the party especially QRD performance seems good for first gen. I'm unsure about third party vendor performance. XE does seem like SoC in 2 in 1s with AI performance and very good travel device with great battery life.
Cool!
It is running windows or Linux?
ARM version of Windows ofc
@@davemaulanaferros8373 Yea arm support and gaming with arm in worse on linyx
It would be interesting to play World of Warcraft on this thing in a 40 man raid, or a 40 vs. 40 man bg on higher settings. Wonder if it could handle it
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It’s fine on arm MacBooks
Snapdragon X Elite ❤❤
I think this still has ways to go. This is pretty bad compared worse than last gen AMD apus.
Could you do a “logitech g900 chaos spectrum” review after 7 years later? 🙏🙏🙏
don't have the unit anymore
@@BooredAtWork damn it!
Does it power up like an iPad and go to sleep like an I pad as well
quick wake up. I don't see why not
That depends on the software, either the OEM or Windows. I find that my WOA Surface Pro will still hibernate, so not like the iPad or Macs.
yes
Your video has lost critical piece of information by not including the resolution and the graphic options of each games played.
How is performance when it's plugged?
run at 80 watt
is anyone going to be developing games on windows for ARM? This means more games on Mac OS. haha
Test red dead redemption
This interesting.
So it would seem that Mac’s are outperforming windows in ARM gaming. I wonder if it will be easier for Apple to port the games that will be released with the Qualcomm chip. This is a real turn of the tables.
Can it be paired with a nvidia graphics card?
No idea but I don't think so
@@BooredAtWork according to windows central YES IT CAN
@@BooredAtWork it support dGPUS
Like your videos bro, keep it up
Is that running on a custom windows ?
No word on what version of windows it is other it is running on arm
Snapdragon X Elite Laptops ❤❤
Its ARM bro
Don't embarrassing it by gaming
Try productivity
Not gaming
Consider this MacBook like.
😮😮
Its all meant for productivity
Productivity doesn't necessarily demand high power. For example, the ROG Ally can smoothly handle tasks such as video editing, multitasking, and graphic design. However, in gaming, there are certain games that may challenge the Ally. Yet, if any device can manage any game, it's likely capable of handling any task you throw at it.
Gaming is the only benchmark to prove it's potential.
No offense, you are a bad gamer. But all your video contents are great.
😂😂😂 none taken. Glad you enjoy the content
30fps? that sucks!
It's more showing that it's possible. A tech demo.
REALLY HORRIBLE PERFORMANCE!
😂🤣 it does not even go up to 60 FPS. Its crap.
💀yk that mac books cant stay at 60fps unless the game is native lmao🤦
@@kurbasw8 And? I don't use Apple products. I have a gaming PC.
@@evacody1249 yeah yeah but your acting like the x elite is using a alot of power it's only using 23watts
@kurbasw8 what are you talking about. I said 30fps is bad when the Xbox and PS5 can hit 60fps.
Has nothing to do with power. The gpu will never keep up with AMD or Nvidia. Same as Apples gpu can't keep up.
This is not a gaming laptop and never will be.
its not designed for games, its designed for battery life... they are trying to make a low end laptop that can compete with Apple and get 12+ hours of battery life.
What's the point of this laptop. I would just buy a normal gaming laptop
Efficiency and battery life....a gaming laptop lasts 45 min out of the plug.
Battery life and "sticking it to the man". The man being AMD and Intel.
i would live to see a battery pack sized pc with bigscreen beyond sized hmd combo Snapdragon X Elite device for $500-$700
windows vision pro
Snapdragon X Elite ❤
Do these games run natively or through some kind of translation layer?
Emulation
This looks absolutely hwesome!
What was the resolution, dude? And presume this is doing software abstraction layer from x86 to ARM?
Arm to x86 emulation, probally 1080p or 1440p?
but with integrated graphics so its impressive they are not even optimised yet
Hopefully affordable. Most barebones budget gaming laptops in nz are usually no cheaper than 1500 1600 dollars. Maybe 11-1200 if its got a gpu from 3+ years ago lol
Dual boot win arm, liux, android should be perfect device !
Ms kill wsa
With these games coming to Windows ARM... I wonder what this will do for macOS gaming community 😄 might make it easier for macOS users to play Windows games now!
Very unplayable and so poor in performance for gaming.
Very expensive for price to performance in my opinion.
Honestly was hoping for more performance, would love to see 60fps on a SOC.
You we're playing Baldur's Gate 3 btw not BG2....BG3!!!
My bad, balder's gate is not a game I play. 😂😅
Qualcomm will need at least 5 years for software and games to be optimized for the Snapdragon X Elite series. 5 years from now I hope there will be Linux or Windows Handheld Gaming powered by Snapdragon X Elite Series.😊
bragging about being able to run baldur's gate 2, this chip should be very bad
Can it be like 100 dollars like my x501a was?
I want to dual boot with windows arm and android arm
Seems a bit slower than my 4090 setup, i thought it would be comparable, but i guess not.🤷🏻♂️
no... its a super hyped up phone type processor to compare with Apple's low end processor in things like the Macbook Air.
@@AyaWetts but it has the same architecture as apples m series processors and the people that made this for Qualcomm were ex employees of apple who made the m series, so I think it's only a matter of time before they surpass apple, after all this is their first generation processor and they are already on par with apples low end m 3rd gen series processor.
And apples next mobile processor is gonna lose to snapdragon 8 gen 4 cus they are bringing their oryon architecture to it, it's expected to have an antutu score of more than 3 million. Leaks of A18 pro shows it has 3500 single score and 8500 in multi,
Snapdragon 8 gen 4 has a,single score of 2845 and multiple score of 10628.
8 gen 4 will leave A18 pro in the dust. In multi score.
Any Information on Windows Super Resolution working on this?
no idea, but possible. will find out
Whats the OS?
Windows 11
How long did it last while playing, do u know
👍🏾
Hallo motto
Its the fastest cpu why it has 30fps? Preety bad performance
its designed to be low power and long battery life... its not designed for games
@@AyaWettsTf its emulated
Snapdragon X Elite 🔥❤️💪