Thanks for the video. So many people have made videos, but finding simple text instructions is near impossible. Your video is perfect, short and to the point.
I had commented that the fccID wouldn't be valid when started in another mode, but it turns out that I was wrong. They have simply added GMRS to the end of the FCC ID, and both are listed on the FCC's web site. You can also use PTT & 1 to enter into 136-174 / 400-520MHz. And PTT & 7 gives a full reset of the radio. I'd like to see them add MURS to this radio in the same manner. I purchased the Ham version as I am a Ham operator. If you plan to become a Ham, then you might want to start with the Ham version. The reason being that it could be that the GMRS version might not include proper filtering to suppress harmonics in the Ham Bands. The Chinese are very good at omitting components which aren't needed, and they aren't needed if the radio is to be used for GMRS. Also a friend bought the GMRS version, and both versions have a very short lived flashlight. This does not affect the radio, but that light goes out rather quickly if you happen to hit the button for it on the side while hiking and don't notice this. My tests showed very close to 10w into a dummy load in Ham mode, and a little over 5w in GMRS mode.
Only thing that stinks is every time I switch between modes it erases ALL data and states it on the switch. Any way around this, as it defeats the use.
@@randalllewis2434import the radio settings to chirp and save the file or export the Chiro file to a .csv. THEN, reset to the mode you want. Just use it in ALL mode. No need to switch.
QUESTION - Does the radio save this change when it's powered off and back on, or do you need to press these buttons every time you turn it on? For example, if I change the state to "transmit on all bands" and then turn it off and on, is it still set to transmit on all bands? If not, which state does it revert back to?
What's the noise in the background on Transmit? I only ask because another Review of this HT said it produced noise when held close to another piece of audio equipment but I believe with a later (or perhaps latest) FW version, that issue has been fixed.
If the radio is completely unlocked, you can use whatever frequency you want that it is capable of transmitting on. You can program the memories to any of those frequencies, as well.
Thank for making this video! As a newbie and know little about this, I have a question about the 3rd unlock option ("unlock all"). If I have a ham or a GMRS TD-H8 and "unlock all," can I program by hand/keyboard some ham and GMRS freqs. all together on channels, say 5 ham freqs. followed by 5 GMRS freqs.? I'm not sure my question even makes sense... :p
I bought 2 of these and the one I unlocked, when I press the vfo button it wont toggle between channel and freq. mode. it just beeps when i press the vfo button.
just thought of something I use it as ham but i now have a gmrs license as well if i change to total unlock will it lose my 2m 70cm repeaters i have programmed in it and have to redo them ?
Did this totally change? Mine erased everything and now chirp can't see the radio. I backed it up but can't rewrite it now that it no longer sees the radio. Date of sw is 09 11 23 I believe.
I just updated the firmware here to test it out again. It worked fine for me. Remember, if you switch modes, you need to select the new model (Ham, GMRS, etc.) in either ODMaster or Chirp to read/write. Also if using Chirp, you have to grip the top of the cable with your kung fu grip to hold the connector as tight as possible to successfully read the radio.
Do you know if this is a bug or a feature? I like what I see but am afraid if I order this 10-watt radio from Amazon, I will not be able to switch it to GMRS.
@@RKingisonly bad part is is that it saves the lists per type. If you programmed everything in GMRS type, you can’t see or open the list in other types. I am also noticing that there is no channel mode. I only get VFO. But you can unlock both the older and the V2 radios.
@@RKingis yes. It stays in VFO mode and will not go to memory when it’s in unlocked version. I also just got the V2 today in Ham, and I used software to open the Gen 1 GMRS version I had, and even in unlocked mode, a lot of the frequencies, about 50 of them, will not go into the unlocked version. So to use it, I put new new V2 version in GMRS mode and just dumped everything into that. I would think unlocked, means unlocked, but it’s still restricting some frequencies that can be in GMRS. To be clear I am only using mine as a scanner for my areas fire departments. So most of it is on VHF frequencies. But on GMRS version I can input them all.
@@tuckmeat great thanks for the information My mate ordered them last week, so should be here soon, do you have to update the firmware to unlock the radio? Thanks Dave
It iS FCC approved for GMRS:apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/ViewExhibitReport.cfm?mode=Exhibits&RequestTimeout=500&calledFromFrame=N&application_id=lpLh9FYiHHEgkkbG8yqJAA%3D%3D&fcc_id=2AWL3-TDH8GMRS
@@tuckmeat No, it is NOT approved for GMRS. It has Part 15 B approval which ALL consumer electronics are required to have per the FCC. Even your toaster or paper shredder or washing machine should have Part 15 approval and a sticker on it saying so. To be legally approved for GMRS TX it must say PART 95E approved. This is a game China and others play to mislead buyers into thinking they are ok to use in the USA when they are not. I'm sure you would hate to have someone with a pacemaker drop dead next to you when you transmit because the radio did not pass testing and it had a spurious emission that shut down someone's pacemaker and killed them or opened someones garage door and they got robbed etc. There's a reason for accurate type acceptance.
.@@tuckmeat That filing is only for Part 15B and does not make the radio type-accepted for GMRS. That requires testing certifying Part 95E compliance. Ham radios must meet Part 97 requirements. I know of no inexpensive Chinese HTs which have tested to either of those sets of requirements and filed test reports with the FCC requesting a grant of type acceptance. Some ham versions that I've tested did meet Part 97, but the manufacturer still submitted only a Part 15B test report. All the FCC IDs i've seen on the backs of the Chinese HTs were associated only with a Part 15B filing.
Thanks for the video. So many people have made videos, but finding simple text instructions is near impossible. Your video is perfect, short and to the point.
I had commented that the fccID wouldn't be valid when started in another mode, but it turns out that I was wrong. They have simply added GMRS to the end of the FCC ID, and both are listed on the FCC's web site.
You can also use PTT & 1 to enter into 136-174 / 400-520MHz. And PTT & 7 gives a full reset of the radio. I'd like to see them add MURS to this radio in the same manner.
I purchased the Ham version as I am a Ham operator. If you plan to become a Ham, then you might want to start with the Ham version. The reason being that it could be that the GMRS version might not include proper filtering to suppress harmonics in the Ham Bands. The Chinese are very good at omitting components which aren't needed, and they aren't needed if the radio is to be used for GMRS.
Also a friend bought the GMRS version, and both versions have a very short lived flashlight. This does not affect the radio, but that light goes out rather quickly if you happen to hit the button for it on the side while hiking and don't notice this. My tests showed very close to 10w into a dummy load in Ham mode, and a little over 5w in GMRS mode.
this was exactly what i was looking for,
My Radio arrived GMRS, I also changed the antenna. since the label it shows is Mono UHF band and ready to Enjoy YV5CMJ 73s
Only thing that stinks is every time I switch between modes it erases ALL data and states it on the switch. Any way around this, as it defeats the use.
Use Chirp and import/export the memories as a text file with the app.
That’s the bad thing about it!! They fix that, and it’s a really good HT….
@@randalllewis2434import the radio settings to chirp and save the file or export the Chiro file to a .csv. THEN, reset to the mode you want. Just use it in ALL mode. No need to switch.
QUESTION - Does the radio save this change when it's powered off and back on, or do you need to press these buttons every time you turn it on? For example, if I change the state to "transmit on all bands" and then turn it off and on, is it still set to transmit on all bands? If not, which state does it revert back to?
It remembers the setting until you change it.
I had the same question, thanks!
Awesome, I knew how to open it completely. But not yhe others
The only downside is that when you switch from Hamm, to GMRS, then switch back, you lose all of your stored frequencies on the Ham band!!
What's the noise in the background on Transmit? I only ask because another Review of this HT said it produced noise when held close to another piece of audio equipment but I believe with a later (or perhaps latest) FW version, that issue has been fixed.
Great, Thanks for Sharing. Wish the Wouxons were like that.
What the power out put on the unlock mode of the tidraido gmrs
So, if you are completely unlocked and can use both ham and GMRS channels, it won’t delete your programming when you switch between the two, correct?
If the radio is completely unlocked, you can use whatever frequency you want that it is capable of transmitting on. You can program the memories to any of those frequencies, as well.
This is real 10w ham radio!
Thank for making this video! As a newbie and know little about this, I have a question about the 3rd unlock option ("unlock all"). If I have a ham or a GMRS TD-H8 and "unlock all," can I program by hand/keyboard some ham and GMRS freqs. all together on channels, say 5 ham freqs. followed by 5 GMRS freqs.? I'm not sure my question even makes sense... :p
@@BillBreen if you do "Unlock All", you can program the radio to transmit on any frequency the radio covers.
@@tuckmeat THANK YOU! and I appreciate your prompt reply. :)
Amazing, worked, just unlock it.... 😅
Thx you My Friend You are The Best 73s
Quick question, when you have it in the unlocked mode, will it not TX in the MURS bands?
When it's unlocked, it transmits over it's entire frequency range, which includes the MURS frequencies.
@@tuckmeat Thank you my friend!
I bought 2 of these and the one I unlocked, when I press the vfo button it wont toggle between channel and freq. mode. it just beeps when i press the vfo button.
So it will work on 468mhz
If it is completely unlocked can you transmit on 220? Or is it still locked to those dual bands?
220 is not a band supported by this radio.
just thought of something I use it as ham but i now have a gmrs license as well if i change to total unlock will it lose my 2m 70cm repeaters i have programmed in it and have to redo them ?
It loses all memories when you do this so have the programming software handy.
@@tuckmeat they just emailed me back and said they were working on an update for the app so the firmware update can be done thru it
is legal use as gmrs i start learning fron am cb. i buy this radio for start easy gmrs licence and later prepair for ham. and not buying 2 radios
In this Video he is testing with an FCC(USA) Model, and it is Legal to operate on GMRS as long as you have a Non Testing GMRS License.
Thank you very much❤
C'è un firmware per l'H8 che gli fa ricevere la banda aerea?
No. Airband uses AM mode, not FM and the frequencies are out of range for this radio, as well.
New to the hobby. Bought this radio gen 2, what is a good antenna that will work with this?
amzn.to/3TizjIF. TIDRADIO also sells a radio package with a similar antenna includes.
Does this mod allow reception in the air band?
No, it does not cover that frequency range. Also, the air band uses AM, not FM
Does this also work on the (2nd Gen) TD-H8 Ham/GMRS radios?
Yes
I have the original version and it works on it too.
When in GMRS mode, will this still transmit in full 10 watts?
Yes
@@tuckmeat thanks.
Any idea how to unlock a tidradio GM-5R?
Did this totally change? Mine erased everything and now chirp can't see the radio. I backed it up but can't rewrite it now that it no longer sees the radio. Date of sw is 09 11 23 I believe.
I just updated the firmware here to test it out again. It worked fine for me. Remember, if you switch modes, you need to select the new model (Ham, GMRS, etc.) in either ODMaster or Chirp to read/write. Also if using Chirp, you have to grip the top of the cable with your kung fu grip to hold the connector as tight as possible to successfully read the radio.
Can I use it just for weather with out a license
@@andy4144-z3x you can use it to listen to anything without a license
Interesting, this is 'close in appearance' to a Baofeng UV-5R.
does this radio recieve any digital frequencies?
Analog only
ty
Does this work any of the models? On their site they have both a gmrs as well as a ham version
The TD-H8 is really just one radio model with different "modes" for ham vs. GMRS vs. completely unlocked.
@@tuckmeat just going off of their site. They have a ham version and gmrs version for sale
@@tuckmeatcan I still run my GMRS if I use total unlocked??
@@Freebird_67 yes
Mine won't do that. I've got a ham one. Says it will erase data
Do you know if this is a bug or a feature? I like what I see but am afraid if I order this 10-watt radio from Amazon, I will not be able to switch it to GMRS.
It is a feature.
You lose all programming when you switch modes. But if you save your settings in ODMaster, you can reprogram your radio.
@@RKingisonly bad part is is that it saves the lists per type. If you programmed everything in GMRS type, you can’t see or open the list in other types. I am also noticing that there is no channel mode. I only get VFO.
But you can unlock both the older and the V2 radios.
@@PTRRanger951 Are you pressing "VFO/MR"?
@@RKingis yes. It stays in VFO mode and will not go to memory when it’s in unlocked version.
I also just got the V2 today in Ham, and I used software to open the Gen 1 GMRS version I had, and even in unlocked mode, a lot of the frequencies, about 50 of them, will not go into the unlocked version. So to use it, I put new new V2 version in GMRS mode and just dumped everything into that.
I would think unlocked, means unlocked, but it’s still restricting some frequencies that can be in GMRS.
To be clear I am only using mine as a scanner for my areas fire departments. So most of it is on VHF frequencies. But on GMRS version I can input them all.
Only 2m and 440 when unlocked?
Just VHF/UHF
Not working for me with the Gen2 version. The firmware is: HAM_230923
Is there ANYWAY to get 1.25 on it?
No.
Does it rx/tx up to 520?
It will only TX up to 499.9975
Data will be eraser. Yes or not?
Yes
Hi if you unlock the GMRS Version, Does it then TX up to 10W, Thanks Dave 2E0DMB
Yes it does.
@@tuckmeat great thanks for the information
My mate ordered them last week, so should be here soon, do you have to update the firmware to unlock the radio?
Thanks Dave
@@davidbrowne1588 I didn't have to do anything to the firmware. I just followed the procedure outlined and it worked.
@@tuckmeat great news
Thanks Dave
Does this open it up enough to rx airband?
No, and airband is AM. This radio is FM only.
too funny they mfg told me what to do when i got the radio
I bought 2 radios, 1 comes with this noise/buzz, I returned it.
ничего не понятно
the bad is when turn off and on again loose all.
It doesn’t lose anything
FYI-it's NOT FCC approved
It iS FCC approved for GMRS:apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/ViewExhibitReport.cfm?mode=Exhibits&RequestTimeout=500&calledFromFrame=N&application_id=lpLh9FYiHHEgkkbG8yqJAA%3D%3D&fcc_id=2AWL3-TDH8GMRS
@@tuckmeatWho cares?
@@tuckmeat No, it is NOT approved for GMRS. It has Part 15 B approval which ALL consumer electronics are required to have per the FCC. Even your toaster or paper shredder or washing machine should have Part 15 approval and a sticker on it saying so. To be legally approved for GMRS TX it must say PART 95E approved. This is a game China and others play to mislead buyers into thinking they are ok to use in the USA when they are not. I'm sure you would hate to have someone with a pacemaker drop dead next to you when you transmit because the radio did not pass testing and it had a spurious emission that shut down someone's pacemaker and killed them or opened someones garage door and they got robbed etc. There's a reason for accurate type acceptance.
.@@tuckmeat That filing is only for Part 15B and does not make the radio type-accepted for GMRS. That requires testing certifying Part 95E compliance. Ham radios must meet Part 97 requirements. I know of no inexpensive Chinese HTs which have tested to either of those sets of requirements and filed test reports with the FCC requesting a grant of type acceptance. Some ham versions that I've tested did meet Part 97, but the manufacturer still submitted only a Part 15B test report. All the FCC IDs i've seen on the backs of the Chinese HTs were associated only with a Part 15B filing.
@@user-bg3xx9xf5ythese don’t put out no where near 10 watts in GMRS mode.